I know how you feel, I am 1800, lost to a 1900, I checked his profile and what I found there was quite disturbing: "Hello, I am 9 years old and I like to play chess"
I am a moderate player who dips in and out every 2 years. My daughter suggested I play her 11 year old friend who had come to tea. I happened to win and she got quite upset. Afterwards I found out I had been set up as her uncle was Malaysian grand master and she was school chess champion who had also beaten all the teachers. My daughter had been looking forward to me getting a nasty surprise. Sometimes you get lucky I suppose.
I agree that you spending more time on Openings is a good strategy. I regularly hear you say, "I'm not real sure what to do in this case. I guess I'll play (whatever move you think is safe)." You make the right move in most cases but you're not playing GMs so you're able to win against players your level and below and maybe have become complacent instead of going deeper on Openings. You still are my favorite UA-cam chess dude. Thanks for your vdos. You'll be better prepared next time. Stay sharp. Play smart. See ya in the next video.
I would also like to add that I agree with learning more about openings would indeed help but my advice to you is to listen to your own advice when playing stronger players... don't try to do anything fancy with gambits or special openings and play good moves/chess... play safe moves and you will be able to see what the opponents intentions are because your pieces will be safe... I'm no master at chess but I got that advice from one, you... I hope this helps
@@tylervanamburg7955 I have stopped bothering with gambits and tricks. Just solid development. Of course if my opponent gives me a good opportunity, then you gotta go for it to get a winning advantage.
What an experience against the 2 grandmasters !! Maybe similar to how Average Joe opponents feel at the current rating levels 😮. Thanks so much for sharing these games ! More power to you !!
Have I ever? A kid 20 years younger than me beating my a$$ is the reason I got back into chess! Couldn't let that continue to happen 😂 Kids seriously have such an advantage. Their brains are wired for chess with all their neural pathways still open. My dad taught me chess when I was 5 and I was beating him consistently within a few days.
@@andrewbennett5911Same here and it sucked because after beating friends, they wouldn't play anymore either. The only opening that I knew was the Giucco Piano but I played it well.
I’ve noticed a lot of that from looking at GM games that they very often play moves that the fish refers to as “inaccuracies” but it stops the main lines and opponents don’t know how to punish, which turns the “inaccurate/bad move” into a good move
18:10, the Bishop is well placed and active. It can't be attacked easily as there's no pawn on the e-file. This was the best move in my opinion and you can defend the kingside with your Bishop now. However, the queen's knight and rook and bishop need to be developed asap or you are essentially going to be playing with the Queenside bishop down. Take a snapshot of the board at 18:08 and you will see that all his pieces are pointing towards your kingside or have an easy path to that side. This is where he is going to be strong and should play. You on the other hand, should be playing on the queenside OR bringing defenders onto your kingside or shifting your king to the queenside. It's like you got into all those problems when you pushed that pawn and just made it a weakness. You had a6 to prevent the White knight from harassing the Bishop by the way so you didn't have to worry and later you could hit central with b5. I think this plan would have stood you some ground for a while. Or you should have fianchettoed your Bishop on g7 and got that nice diagonal which is a plan like in the Kings Indian. And play on the queenside. You pushed the pawns on the Kingside with your King stuck on the left side of the board and got an awkward position. I hope this helps.
This is so great--it is freakish how good those guys are. Another difference is I bet both those super-GMs can remember every move of their games even if they didn't notate them. Keep practicing!
I think you need to play mainline theory against them and just try to get out of the opening with a playable position. It seems that only Magnus and truly elite players can get away with playing unusual gambits and sidelines at GM level.
at 3:04 my first thought was B-b4 blockading both of white's b pawns and preventing him from ever advancing them. It fixes the b3 pawn as a target, for example Na5 and its not easy to defend the pawn.This also prevents white from moving a rook to e1 and he has no good way to attack your bishop on b4. Its generally a good idea to put a piece in front of pawn weaknesses. Lastly, g6 weakens your pawn structure needlessly and wastes a move as you could connect your rooks faster with B-b4. Typically you do not want to go g6 if you have no e pawn to guard f6
Nelson, whenever you play against grandmasters, make sure that you are not playing gambits or a worse position of an opening because then it feels really bad to lose in the opening too fast before move 10. After the middlegame losing against grandmasters is normal but don't lose in the opening.
I also feel that at 16:31, you should have played d6 to prevent e5 and only then bring your knight out or strike in the center with d5. Because he could get the initiative like he did. Your play was slightly passive in the opening.
First off I wanted to say u are a great teacher and the way u explain your thinking is top level. The only knack I have is that I feel u tend to beat yourself. The 2 games with the grandmasters u were hoping they did what u wanted them to do.... I think u have to assume that they know more than you so just play fundamentally sound. Get ya king out the center and look for tactics. Keep ya king in the center on a 800 and they just might cook u too lol. Keep grinding tho!!!!! Dope channel ❤
Can you tell me how much the breaking 1500 course was? I am on the waitlist and want to save up for it in case it’s more than I’m expecting! I’m not sure if you’re allowed to say but I really just want to have the money when the next course it available
In those 2 losing games, the opponent surprised you as they didn't fall into your trap, resulting in you falling into unfamiliar territory. Now you can learn from this game to dig deeper in the opening.
I always learn so much when I play someone better that I don't really mind the loss... Keep in mind that the classic openings are studied because they work; it takes specific knowledge to defeat them.
A 34 year old losing a game of chess to a 14 year old is news like sunshine in the Sahara. Now if you lost to someone 20 years older who only learned the rules in his late forties - that would be news. To the extent that if it could be proven it would be of significant scientific interest.
You can see, we can see, your opponents will know, you just haven't put in enough hard work on the scripted openings. Love your channel! You're one of us. ;-)
U can hit 1500 easy (maybe not easy, but with some work put in) I learned how to play chess June 26 and am 1100 already. Just do a lot of puzzles and UA-cam videos and some chessable courses. I am 33 btw. My strategy is to learn the ins and outs of couple of openings for each color and then have at least a brief idea of what to do against all openings (not there yet but working). I study kings Indian and Caro as black and Jobava and Catalan as white. King pawn games get a little bit too crazy for me so I love the Caro because worst case scenario is a draw.
@@giacalonebuilding4443lol, I started playing chess when I was 14 (now I'm 16). My highest elo was 1481 but I went back to 1407 cuz I lost like 7+ games in one day :/ It feels like rapid becomes blitz. I didn't study that much openings, the only thing I learned is that you shouldn't put your bishop on c4 in the Four Knights because of Nxe4 sacrifice.
When I was in my 50s, quite a while ago, I got my head handed to me by a cute little 9 YO Chinese girl, with her proud parents standing behind her. Turned out she was one of the top ten 9 YOs in the country.
To your comment of getting a worse position in your openings against GM's. My strategy against higher rated players is the hippo. It's a system based opening so I will be 0.something worse after 10 moves. I suggest you look at incorporating a system based opening such as the kings Indian, hippo, colle. You won't be winning after 10 moves but your not expected to surprise a GM in 10 moves with e4, d4, or c4 openings and somehow get a better position.
in the pawn ending in game 4, instead of abandoning the passed pawn you could have stalemated the king, force black to play c5, take it, and then push the c-pawn to checkmate as your pawn is quicker and promotes with mate.
Somehow, seeing better rated players struggle and keep it real makes me feel better about struggling to pass 600 blitz because the learning never stops!
I think you should learn some off-beat openings staying away from mainline theory but aren’t quite as unsound like -1 with white. It’s up to you what style and type of positions u like and enjoy but I do think some of the gambits u play slightly hold u back
Just for fun, the other day I played a beginner while using both the Grob and the Bongcloud in the same game. Still won. I'm about 1500 - 1600 strength, according to a couple of people over 2000.
Round 3, if black had played d5 in stead of c5, the game would be French def. Paulsen variation by transposition, with black's queen bishop totally misplaced. That would be a disaster for black playing against a GM
I think you had it in your mind that you were beat before you sat down to play the GMs. Your subconscious mind did exactly what you had planned. You must go into every game with the mindset that you're able to win/ you're going to win.
Possibly abandon tricks and gambits when playing stronger players and stick with solid lines. Most players you play on speed runs cooperate with the gambits and when they don't you can out maneuver them.
Nelson, go to your favorite / strongest opening against that GM. At least you would have had a better game and learn some things along the way and your strongest opening would become even stronger in the long run.
It seems like playing a GM is a humbling experience. Both Andy and Jeffrey are around my area somewhere. Might have to try and give them a challenge, see how they really destroy a 900 :)
Try the Catalan. I was playing either regular London or Jobava until a few days ago switched to the Catalan and it is soooo much more fun. London is so boring Catalan is amazing opening. (Granted is probably mistake but I try to force the Catalan, or at least Catalan like positions with Catalan bishop and d4 c4 at some point)
Get used to it. I was 40 when playing in the 2001 US Open, I lost a game to a little kid who knelt on the chair to get a good view of the board. I played him like he was a little kid instead of like he was an expert. I sacrificed an exchange and he clamped down my counterplay like a pro.
You really just need to grind more opening theory. And play more main line stuff. You go for these weird gambit variations that dont work against strong players. I know you said your opponent will know more than you if you play main line, but they’re also gonna know the sidelines, so you might as well play moves that are objectively better.
You should really just think what you're trying to do against a GM? Learn? Have fun? Give yourself the best chance to win? Best chance to draw? Last 40 moves before losing? Best chance to win is probably doing some bizarre line where you gambit something and win 5% of the time, losing badly the other 95%, which might be what you're doing. But if you decide to pursue the "best chance to win" strategy, just know that it also means best chance at losing badly and be OK with that. Practical advice? If you want to play something like the Owen's defense against a borderline Super GM , you probably have to memorize it well past the point that virtually anyone else ever does. You shouldn't be surprised by anything before move ~10, unless that thing is a mistake they make.
I wouldn't do as well as you, but I think, against a GM, or any type of master, as white I would play the Italian and try to figure out how to draw, and if black, probably get into the Pirc and sort of do the same thing. I just want to try and be solid and not try to gambit against people who know how to maintain an advantage. I seriously doubt I could even come close to getting a draw, but I think I know these openings well enough to not get blown out immediately, and maybe make my opponent think. The end result being I get to see how a GM thinks, and hopefully take something away from the game. Oh, and I am 20 years older than you, so it would be possible for me to test the theory and learn what it's like to lose to someone that much younger than me, but I already know that feeling.
I understand the “offbeat opening” strategy against a Super GM. Still, my question is since you used the Owens Opening, was that something spontaneous, or were you booked up on the intricacies and used it from time to time before playing Jeffrey?
I thought that an ELO of 2141 would be competitive against an ELO of 2635. What happened? What sets them apart? Great videos - Teaching me a lot. I just must try and remember it all.
I would say, just longer calculations, training your brain in very very complicated chess like open with e4, already thinking about all the openings, he responds, then you think okay do I got theory here like mainline engine or just sneaky GM stuff, and then whatever and in the middlegame, you think okay he can move his pawn here, or there, that piece and that piece what can he do, he can bring out his knight but then it can jump here here and here and is there nothing there and what tactic goes with it is he marching his tanks closer to my king etc etc TRAIN THE BRAIN to just do these things and lateron it will be like drinking tea like playing a videogame trust me on that , and making it use to it and also practice blindfold chess, I would say that helped me too and it will help you. Congrats on the three wins though good stuff keep it up !
Can you personally ever become a grandmaster? I'm just curious if you know your ceiling/ability limits or will it constantly improve by playing and learning more over time. Great vids as always, cheers
@@carlosedwardos Thanks for the opinion. I'm still quite new at it (2 mths). Trying to gauge learning curves and essentially max level, asides from when older age factors in
To be good at chess is good enough. You are good. Anyone who is great at it doesn’t have their life priorities in order-ending up insane if obsessed with being the greatest. “Insane” because it’s just a game at the end of the day. Nothing in chess helps one know what the “best move” to make raising children.
Often true, but far from always. Yeah it's easy for OCD types to get sucked in, but they were unbalanced before getting into chess. You are right, it's just a game--but if it happens to be your passion, you will get good at it because you love to work on it and will become good enough to (for example) be a very succe$$ful YTer. "If you love what you do, you will never work a day in your life." Nelson is a great example of a well-balanced guy who happens to be good at chess. Igor Smirnov, yep. Naroditsky, also probably true. Levy, IMO he's doing OK. Fischer, not so much.
You asked what you think you can do to improve against those players. Well I am a bad player compared to you but maybe I can offer you a suggestion. Against those top opponents you immediately jumped into openings you wouldn't have played I think against someone of equal rating to you. Now I see the idea of playing a less played opening against a top opponent might put them in territory they not fully understand but the problem with that is you don't fully understand them either. I would suggest trying playing these people using your strongest opening. Even if opponent knows the lines inside out so do you so you be more on a level playing field. That just a maybe type suggestion but something to consider.
Playing obscure gambits against a grandmaster seems like a bad idea in general. But I know you're an aggressive player at heart so maybe you can figure out a way to be aggressive while hanging onto your pieces.
Look on the bright side, at least you lost to a 14 year old kid rated 2600 and not a 14 year old kid rated 1200 Your best chance was that the grand master would randomly blunder a piece but that didn't happen
I've been following your channel for about 9 months and, bearing in mind that you're a far better player than I, I think your problem is in your choice of openings. You were likely going to lose to the GMs, anyway, but you put yourself in a hole by choosing some questionable gambits and then relying on tricky tactics. Trouble is, a GM has the skill needed to out-tactics you. Against much stronger opponents you (in my opinion) need to play more solid openings and know them well. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. Thanks for posting this. I enjoy the channel and learn a lot from it.
My research says Valery Grechikhin at the age of 61. This is by current standards. There have been even older GMs under more lax circumstances in the past.
New strategy, get better at playing GMs....now here comes the tricky part, how do we do that. All joking aside, good video, good effort, keep up the hard work.
When I was younger, I remember beating a chess instructor at like a 2000 level ELO at the time. I was like 12 years old or something and the guy was in his 70s and had never lost to amateurs. A former GM by the way. The worst was that just weeks after beating him, he passed away because after I beat him, he seemed visibly upset. And like at that time I felt guilty thinking I was responsible for what happened to him. Weird, but true story!
1. There is no such thing as a "former GM". That title is for life once you earn it. 2. Unless he had dementia, very rare for good chess players, he wouldn't drop down to 2000 Elo. 3. BTW Elo is a person's name, not an acronym. Lots of people somehow don't know this. Arpad Elo, a physics professor from Hungary, came up with the formula we use today for calculating chess ratings. It gets tweaked slightly from time to time.
@@tominmo8865 I meant his rating dipped at the time I played him. He mentioned that he was 2500 rated when he played competitively and his level of play when I played him was around 2000.
i see that both games u underestimated the opponent, and relied heavily on ur opening "hope" line, and forgot other variations which led you into playing unfamiliar, unthoughtful moves. I feel that you are a lot better than what u played against those GMs, i guess you also underestimated urself by being anxious from the opponent's GM title. I'm 1200 but i will still advice you to play solid moves that at least can match the level of a stronger opponent; positively keeping in mind their title. Practice plenty of other lines and variations in i.e top 5 openings used by GMs. Make a scheduled study plan that focuses on lines and variations in top openings used by GM's before a tournament.
He can never be a GM because his memory isn't good enough. It's a genetic advantage. A GM would be able to reconstruct a game they didn't finish writing down.
Yup, you gotta watch those young whippersnappers because they're going to whippersnap you. Though having been an informal teacher for decades there's always a certain pride when the next generation builds on what we accomplished across any fields. Even better if they were my student. That said irritated old geezers can be much worse.
Learn some serious Openings and stop relying solely on the lazy trappy stuff. Lazy trappy stuff works brilliantly against weak players, but anything works against weak players. The problem is when you try that lazy trappy stuff against strong players, they take your soul and make you look and feel like a complete idiot. Solution: Build your knowledge and experience with reliable and sound Openings that can be played confidently at all levels. I have given you this advice before, but you never respond and always ignore it, only to hit upon the same epiphany every time you encounter strong players.
I am a former semi-professional Street Fighter player, having been based in Tokyo approx 25 years ago. Last week, in Tokyo, I lost to a 16 year old. We all get old.
I know how you feel, I am 1800, lost to a 1900, I checked his profile and what I found there was quite disturbing: "Hello, I am 9 years old and I like to play chess"
Final boss
If it makes you feel better, it was likely a joke, to make ppl feel like sht. Loool
If you are 1800, and you lost to a 1900, I think it mustn't disturb you
@@psynergy007 Or he made his profile years ago and never bothered to update it.
Yes i am little girl of 13 y old was 2000 fide she crushed me in the Chess Club they say it is very easy play with old guys win against kid😂😂😂😂
I am a moderate player who dips in and out every 2 years. My daughter suggested I play her 11 year old friend who had come to tea. I happened to win and she got quite upset. Afterwards I found out I had been set up as her uncle was Malaysian grand master and she was school chess champion who had also beaten all the teachers. My daughter had been looking forward to me getting a nasty surprise. Sometimes you get lucky I suppose.
TEA TIME = DESTRUCTION TIME >:D
Good job
I agree that you spending more time on Openings is a good strategy. I regularly hear you say, "I'm not real sure what to do in this case. I guess I'll play (whatever move you think is safe)." You make the right move in most cases but you're not playing GMs so you're able to win against players your level and below and maybe have become complacent instead of going deeper on Openings. You still are my favorite UA-cam chess dude. Thanks for your vdos. You'll be better prepared next time. Stay sharp. Play smart. See ya in the next video.
I would also like to add that I agree with learning more about openings would indeed help but my advice to you is to listen to your own advice when playing stronger players... don't try to do anything fancy with gambits or special openings and play good moves/chess... play safe moves and you will be able to see what the opponents intentions are because your pieces will be safe... I'm no master at chess but I got that advice from one, you... I hope this helps
This so much. I have heard Nelson say "im not familiar with this opening" so many times that i feel like he says it in pretty much every video lol
@@tylervanamburg7955 I have stopped bothering with gambits and tricks. Just solid development. Of course if my opponent gives me a good opportunity, then you gotta go for it to get a winning advantage.
What an experience against the 2 grandmasters !! Maybe similar to how Average Joe opponents feel at the current rating levels 😮. Thanks so much for sharing these games ! More power to you !!
Keep the tournaments coming nelson!
Have I ever? A kid 20 years younger than me beating my a$$ is the reason I got back into chess! Couldn't let that continue to happen 😂
Kids seriously have such an advantage. Their brains are wired for chess with all their neural pathways still open. My dad taught me chess when I was 5 and I was beating him consistently within a few days.
Similar story about being taught chess by my dad about the same age ! As soon as I could beat him , he didn't want to play anymore !!
I just hit 17 today
@@andrewbennett5911Same here and it sucked because after beating friends, they wouldn't play anymore either.
The only opening that I knew was the Giucco Piano but I played it well.
@@PraiseAriyo hitting 17 kids in a day is pretty impressive
I’ve noticed a lot of that from looking at GM games that they very often play moves that the fish refers to as “inaccuracies” but it stops the main lines and opponents don’t know how to punish, which turns the “inaccurate/bad move” into a good move
Thank you for the round 1 game Nelson!
We're you the one who played against him?
thank god at least Nelson didnt play against Faustino Oro or it wouldve been worse for Nelson!
At least this time with massively strong-rated opponents we don't have to suspect the "rice cooker!"
2:33 knight a5 looks attractive
Haha it’s so weird watching you get crushed!
“I didn’t know ow it was going to be as bad as it turned out to be.” That’s my chess motto.
18:10, the Bishop is well placed and active. It can't be attacked easily as there's no pawn on the e-file. This was the best move in my opinion and you can defend the kingside with your Bishop now. However, the queen's knight and rook and bishop need to be developed asap or you are essentially going to be playing with the Queenside bishop down. Take a snapshot of the board at 18:08 and you will see that all his pieces are pointing towards your kingside or have an easy path to that side. This is where he is going to be strong and should play. You on the other hand, should be playing on the queenside OR bringing defenders onto your kingside or shifting your king to the queenside. It's like you got into all those problems when you pushed that pawn and just made it a weakness. You had a6 to prevent the White knight from harassing the Bishop by the way so you didn't have to worry and later you could hit central with b5. I think this plan would have stood you some ground for a while. Or you should have fianchettoed your Bishop on g7 and got that nice diagonal which is a plan like in the Kings Indian. And play on the queenside. You pushed the pawns on the Kingside with your King stuck on the left side of the board and got an awkward position. I hope this helps.
This is so great--it is freakish how good those guys are. Another difference is I bet both those super-GMs can remember every move of their games even if they didn't notate them. Keep practicing!
I think you need to play mainline theory against them and just try to get out of the opening with a playable position. It seems that only Magnus and truly elite players can get away with playing unusual gambits and sidelines at GM level.
I really enjoy these recaps
at 3:04 my first thought was B-b4 blockading both of white's b pawns and preventing him from ever advancing them. It fixes the b3 pawn as a target, for example Na5 and its not easy to defend the pawn.This also prevents white from moving a rook to e1 and he has no good way to attack your bishop on b4. Its generally a good idea to put a piece in front of pawn weaknesses. Lastly, g6 weakens your pawn structure needlessly and wastes a move as you could connect your rooks faster with B-b4. Typically you do not want to go g6 if you have no e pawn to guard f6
I'm 17 so no a 20 year younger opponent has never beat me xD
**insert time traveling Nelson here** 😂
Was about to comment the same, am 19
Yet
Ayyy same I'm also 17
Nelson, whenever you play against grandmasters, make sure that you are not playing gambits or a worse position of an opening because then it feels really bad to lose in the opening too fast before move 10. After the middlegame losing against grandmasters is normal but don't lose in the opening.
I also feel that at 16:31, you should have played d6 to prevent e5 and only then bring your knight out or strike in the center with d5. Because he could get the initiative like he did. Your play was slightly passive in the opening.
First off I wanted to say u are a great teacher and the way u explain your thinking is top level. The only knack I have is that I feel u tend to beat yourself. The 2 games with the grandmasters u were hoping they did what u wanted them to do.... I think u have to assume that they know more than you so just play fundamentally sound. Get ya king out the center and look for tactics. Keep ya king in the center on a 800 and they just might cook u too lol. Keep grinding tho!!!!! Dope channel ❤
I'm not a very good player, but perhaps Castel before move 10 - Breaking 1500 lesson 2.3
Can you tell me how much the breaking 1500 course was? I am on the waitlist and want to save up for it in case it’s more than I’m expecting! I’m not sure if you’re allowed to say but I really just want to have the money when the next course it available
@@alexandraison6429 I think it cost somewhere around $200.00. But it was a great course. It taught me a lot!
In those 2 losing games, the opponent surprised you as they didn't fall into your trap, resulting in you falling into unfamiliar territory. Now you can learn from this game to dig deeper in the opening.
"Haha! He has sacced all of his pieces? What can my opponent possibly do?"
*gets checkmated on the next move*
Stockfish: :)
I always learn so much when I play someone better that I don't really mind the loss... Keep in mind that the classic openings are studied because they work; it takes specific knowledge to defeat them.
A 34 year old losing a game of chess to a 14 year old is news like sunshine in the Sahara.
Now if you lost to someone 20 years older who only learned the rules in his late forties - that would be news.
To the extent that if it could be proven it would be of significant scientific interest.
Yeah, dog bites man vs man bites dog kinda news.
You nailed it.... Openings ...
Whatever though. He's a kid. He's not dealing with clots in his legs and stuff. He doesn't have all those adult worries. ❤
You can see, we can see, your opponents will know, you just haven't put in enough hard work on the scripted openings.
Love your channel! You're one of us. ;-)
What weird tourney has 1100s and super GMs
Don't feel too bad. I got into chess in my mid 20s so like I'll be happy if I ever hit 1500.
U can hit 1500 easy (maybe not easy, but with some work put in) I learned how to play chess June 26 and am 1100 already. Just do a lot of puzzles and UA-cam videos and some chessable courses. I am 33 btw. My strategy is to learn the ins and outs of couple of openings for each color and then have at least a brief idea of what to do against all openings (not there yet but working). I study kings Indian and Caro as black and Jobava and Catalan as white. King pawn games get a little bit too crazy for me so I love the Caro because worst case scenario is a draw.
@@giacalonebuilding4443 I'm hanging in and around 1100 too. Haven't studied many openings, but I do puzzles religiously 😁
@@giacalonebuilding4443lol, I started playing chess when I was 14 (now I'm 16). My highest elo was 1481 but I went back to 1407 cuz I lost like 7+ games in one day :/ It feels like rapid becomes blitz. I didn't study that much openings, the only thing I learned is that you shouldn't put your bishop on c4 in the Four Knights because of Nxe4 sacrifice.
Nelson lost that game against the GM before it even started :)
6am: Nelson gets out of bed, setting up an inevitable fail. 🤣
0:50 The definition of Rapid time format.
When I was in my 50s, quite a while ago, I got my head handed to me by a cute little 9 YO Chinese girl, with her proud parents standing behind her. Turned out she was one of the top ten 9 YOs in the country.
Chinese beth harmon for sure
@@al87221 Driving home was very hazardous, as I had to continually wipe the tears from my eyes. 😂
To your comment of getting a worse position in your openings against GM's. My strategy against higher rated players is the hippo. It's a system based opening so I will be 0.something worse after 10 moves. I suggest you look at incorporating a system based opening such as the kings Indian, hippo, colle. You won't be winning after 10 moves but your not expected to surprise a GM in 10 moves with e4, d4, or c4 openings and somehow get a better position.
in the pawn ending in game 4, instead of abandoning the passed pawn you could have stalemated the king, force black to play c5, take it, and then push the c-pawn to checkmate as your pawn is quicker and promotes with mate.
Somehow, seeing better rated players struggle and keep it real makes me feel better about struggling to pass 600 blitz because the learning never stops!
In second game, toward the end, e6 would have given a fork, and perhaps an even quicker checkmate.
I think you should learn some off-beat openings staying away from mainline theory but aren’t quite as unsound like -1 with white. It’s up to you what style and type of positions u like and enjoy but I do think some of the gambits u play slightly hold u back
While Jeffry is a good player, he lost to Hikaru Nakamura even Hikaru played the Bongcloud.
2700 is a “good player” lol bro he’s literally a super gm he can play on par with Hikaru.
Just for fun, the other day I played a beginner while using both the Grob and the Bongcloud in the same game. Still won. I'm about 1500 - 1600 strength, according to a couple of people over 2000.
I had a talent for chess when I was younger. If I had studied it I could have made GM. Now I'm too old.
Round 3, if black had played d5 in stead of c5, the game would be French def. Paulsen variation by transposition, with black's queen bishop totally misplaced. That would be a disaster for black playing against a GM
I think you had it in your mind that you were beat before you sat down to play the GMs. Your subconscious mind did exactly what you had planned. You must go into every game with the mindset that you're able to win/ you're going to win.
Possibly abandon tricks and gambits when playing stronger players and stick with solid lines. Most players you play on speed runs cooperate with the gambits and when they don't you can out maneuver them.
Nelson, go to your favorite / strongest opening against that GM. At least you would have had a better game and learn some things along the way and your strongest opening would become even stronger in the long run.
It seems like playing a GM is a humbling experience. Both Andy and Jeffrey are around my area somewhere. Might have to try and give them a challenge, see how they really destroy a 900 :)
Learn the London. You'll fall asleep during half your games, but at least your king won't be in the middle of the board after the opening 😝
Try the Catalan. I was playing either regular London or Jobava until a few days ago switched to the Catalan and it is soooo much more fun. London is so boring Catalan is amazing opening. (Granted is probably mistake but I try to force the Catalan, or at least Catalan like positions with Catalan bishop and d4 c4 at some point)
Get used to it. I was 40 when playing in the 2001 US Open, I lost a game to a little kid who knelt on the chair to get a good view of the board. I played him like he was a little kid instead of like he was an expert. I sacrificed an exchange and he clamped down my counterplay like a pro.
22:13 that was funny, lol, 😂
You really just need to grind more opening theory. And play more main line stuff. You go for these weird gambit variations that dont work against strong players. I know you said your opponent will know more than you if you play main line, but they’re also gonna know the sidelines, so you might as well play moves that are objectively better.
You should really just think what you're trying to do against a GM? Learn? Have fun? Give yourself the best chance to win? Best chance to draw? Last 40 moves before losing? Best chance to win is probably doing some bizarre line where you gambit something and win 5% of the time, losing badly the other 95%, which might be what you're doing. But if you decide to pursue the "best chance to win" strategy, just know that it also means best chance at losing badly and be OK with that.
Practical advice? If you want to play something like the Owen's defense against a borderline Super GM , you probably have to memorize it well past the point that virtually anyone else ever does. You shouldn't be surprised by anything before move ~10, unless that thing is a mistake they make.
I wouldn't do as well as you, but I think, against a GM, or any type of master, as white I would play the Italian and try to figure out how to draw, and if black, probably get into the Pirc and sort of do the same thing. I just want to try and be solid and not try to gambit against people who know how to maintain an advantage. I seriously doubt I could even come close to getting a draw, but I think I know these openings well enough to not get blown out immediately, and maybe make my opponent think. The end result being I get to see how a GM thinks, and hopefully take something away from the game. Oh, and I am 20 years older than you, so it would be possible for me to test the theory and learn what it's like to lose to someone that much younger than me, but I already know that feeling.
Don't play no gambit against no grandmaster!
Yes, I have - it's humiliating, but not unexpected, since the last time I played any competitive chess was in 1981. 😁😁
This happens on move 7 because you’re not playing solid openings. Not because they’re grandmasters
God dam that 1200 elo guy was rated1750 by stockyy 11:05
I understand the “offbeat opening” strategy against a Super GM. Still, my question is since you used the Owens Opening, was that something spontaneous, or were you booked up on the intricacies and used it from time to time before playing Jeffrey?
Don't play gambits against GMs .. they will refute it 99% of the time!
No but a girl crushed me while having an animated conversation on the phone. Even decades later it still hurts.
learn a lot from this channel
I thought that an ELO of 2141 would be competitive against an ELO of 2635. What happened? What sets them apart? Great videos - Teaching me a lot. I just must try and remember it all.
I would say, just longer calculations, training your brain in very very complicated chess like open with e4, already thinking about all the openings, he responds, then you think okay do I got theory here like mainline engine or just sneaky GM stuff, and then whatever and in the middlegame, you think okay he can move his pawn here, or there, that piece and that piece what can he do, he can bring out his knight but then it can jump here here and here and is there nothing there and what tactic goes with it is he marching his tanks closer to my king etc etc TRAIN THE BRAIN to just do these things and lateron it will be like drinking tea like playing a videogame trust me on that , and making it use to it and also practice blindfold chess, I would say that helped me too and it will help you. Congrats on the three wins though good stuff keep it up !
Can you personally ever become a grandmaster? I'm just curious if you know your ceiling/ability limits or will it constantly improve by playing and learning more over time. Great vids as always, cheers
unlikely - but IM is very realistic for Nelson, if he learns more openings
@@carlosedwardos Thanks for the opinion. I'm still quite new at it (2 mths). Trying to gauge learning curves and essentially max level, asides from when older age factors in
I'm curious on the last game, what fish wanted you to play in response to the knight taking e4?
Who won between the two GM’s? Would be cool to review that game also
I’m 60. Happens all the time…..
To be good at chess is good enough. You are good. Anyone who is great at it doesn’t have their life priorities in order-ending up insane if obsessed with being the greatest. “Insane” because it’s just a game at the end of the day. Nothing in chess helps one know what the “best move” to make raising children.
Often true, but far from always. Yeah it's easy for OCD types to get sucked in, but they were unbalanced before getting into chess. You are right, it's just a game--but if it happens to be your passion, you will get good at it because you love to work on it and will become good enough to (for example) be a very succe$$ful YTer. "If you love what you do, you will never work a day in your life."
Nelson is a great example of a well-balanced guy who happens to be good at chess. Igor Smirnov, yep. Naroditsky, also probably true. Levy, IMO he's doing OK. Fischer, not so much.
Seems like i would stop playing chess at 25 or 26 so that I would not lose to any one 20 years younger than me
You asked what you think you can do to improve against those players. Well I am a bad player compared to you but maybe I can offer you a suggestion. Against those top opponents you immediately jumped into openings you wouldn't have played I think against someone of equal rating to you. Now I see the idea of playing a less played opening against a top opponent might put them in territory they not fully understand but the problem with that is you don't fully understand them either. I would suggest trying playing these people using your strongest opening. Even if opponent knows the lines inside out so do you so you be more on a level playing field. That just a maybe type suggestion but something to consider.
Must have been a great experience. You might have been distracted-even your wins weren;t as clean as they usually would be.
no, I didn't lose against someone that isn't out of his mother yet
Playing obscure gambits against a grandmaster seems like a bad idea in general. But I know you're an aggressive player at heart so maybe you can figure out a way to be aggressive while hanging onto your pieces.
Look on the bright side, at least you lost to a 14 year old kid rated 2600 and not a 14 year old kid rated 1200
Your best chance was that the grand master would randomly blunder a piece but that didn't happen
I've been following your channel for about 9 months and, bearing in mind that you're a far better player than I, I think your problem is in your choice of openings. You were likely going to lose to the GMs, anyway, but you put yourself in a hole by choosing some questionable gambits and then relying on tricky tactics. Trouble is, a GM has the skill needed to out-tactics you. Against much stronger opponents you (in my opinion) need to play more solid openings and know them well. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. Thanks for posting this. I enjoy the channel and learn a lot from it.
What age is the oldest age a player became a GM for the first time?
My research says Valery Grechikhin at the age of 61. This is by current standards. There have been even older GMs under more lax circumstances in the past.
New strategy, get better at playing GMs....now here comes the tricky part, how do we do that. All joking aside, good video, good effort, keep up the hard work.
When I was younger, I remember beating a chess instructor at like a 2000 level ELO at the time. I was like 12 years old or something and the guy was in his 70s and had never lost to amateurs. A former GM by the way. The worst was that just weeks after beating him, he passed away because after I beat him, he seemed visibly upset. And like at that time I felt guilty thinking I was responsible for what happened to him. Weird, but true story!
You're a very nice story teller 👍
1. There is no such thing as a "former GM". That title is for life once you earn it.
2. Unless he had dementia, very rare for good chess players, he wouldn't drop down to 2000 Elo.
3. BTW Elo is a person's name, not an acronym. Lots of people somehow don't know this. Arpad Elo, a physics professor from Hungary, came up with the formula we use today for calculating chess ratings. It gets tweaked slightly from time to time.
bro he didn’t die because you beat him you aren’t some main character in a story
what was the name of the GM? Because searching google reveals there are almost zero GMA rated that low, and don’t seem to match your story
@@tominmo8865 I meant his rating dipped at the time I played him. He mentioned that he was 2500 rated when he played competitively and his level of play when I played him was around 2000.
I think if you're playing a GM, you shouldn't be playing gambits 🤭.
So what’s Jeffery’s UA-cam channel again? 🤣😂😂
i see that both games u underestimated the opponent, and relied heavily on ur opening "hope" line, and forgot other variations which led you into playing unfamiliar, unthoughtful moves. I feel that you are a lot better than what u played against those GMs, i guess you also underestimated urself by being anxious from the opponent's GM title. I'm 1200 but i will still advice you to play solid moves that at least can match the level of a stronger opponent; positively keeping in mind their title. Practice plenty of other lines and variations in i.e top 5 openings used by GMs. Make a scheduled study plan that focuses on lines and variations in top openings used by GM's before a tournament.
yeah.. 1900 at best
I think, Nelson, you should choose simple openings & get castled fast. Hikaru just went for Ruy Lopez (SpeedChess Champions 2024)
How i can play?
Don't worry. Hikaru lost to a ten year old recently. 😊
He can never be a GM because his memory isn't good enough. It's a genetic advantage. A GM would be able to reconstruct a game they didn't finish writing down.
ZAMN
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Quit chess, then. Red thumb.
good game
Yup, you gotta watch those young whippersnappers because they're going to whippersnap you. Though having been an informal teacher for decades there's always a certain pride when the next generation builds on what we accomplished across any fields. Even better if they were my student.
That said irritated old geezers can be much worse.
I will be 77nthis month, Have I ever lost to somebody 25 years younger than me? Nelsi, you are the best, but silly question from my point of view
I have never lost against him. Does it mean I am better then you?
I'm 16, and I'm 2100... do you think I can be GM?
Great, keep it going and believe in it. But become an IM would also be awesome
Obviously over time you will become a gm
I do man. If you want it bad enough.
How is age relevant? The kid plays like a 2700. They're only a few people in the world that can defeat him.
work on openings, try not to gambit with higher rated
I heard abour him
Learn some serious Openings and stop relying solely on the lazy trappy stuff. Lazy trappy stuff works brilliantly against weak players, but anything works against weak players. The problem is when you try that lazy trappy stuff against strong players, they take your soul and make you look and feel like a complete idiot.
Solution: Build your knowledge and experience with reliable and sound Openings that can be played confidently at all levels. I have given you this advice before, but you never respond and always ignore it, only to hit upon the same epiphany every time you encounter strong players.
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I am a former semi-professional Street Fighter player, having been based in Tokyo approx 25 years ago. Last week, in Tokyo, I lost to a 16 year old. We all get old.
I hear ya, I used to be very good at tetris.