His opening/middle games are flawless. What I believe is happening is he uses his rice cooker until he gets a decisive advantage, then finishes the game manually, thus reducing his final accuracy. His poor accuracy games come from opponents like Nelson who survive long enough to make him abandon the engine before having an easy path to victory.
Yeah that likely happened, his frustration kicked in. Sometimes I get on a losing streak, but I don't think, "oh let's start cheating". I just take a break and come back at it with a fresh mind.
I do this sometimes, but as I grow up in rating, I do this rarer and rarer. When I was about 1900 in Rapid, I did this quite often. When I was 1600, I even used my main account to cheat. Now, I am about 2150, and last time I remember as I cheated was long time ago. But I would never cheat from my main account with over 4500 games
@@chess26622 Speaking of cheating, I notice Nelson as well as others, when he suspects cheating, he will look at there rapid rating and there blitz and bullet and say things like, "Hmm, 800 blitz and 2150 rapid, huh?" That's what I'm trying to do right now, is get my blitz rating up so it isn't so out of whack with my rapid rating, but it's so much harder since you only have 3 minutes to think.
I don’t doubt players cheat some players anyway like how easy is it for people to cheat doesn’t seem too difficult earlier I was watching a good player on twitch and this guys opponent came up with brilliant moves toward the end of several games but without proof what can be done I felt he was cheating just so coincidental coming up with winning moves out thin air
People start cheating when you: surprise them in the opening. Win a nice game against them. Play too slowly in the opening. They will also cheat anytime they think you are playing too accurately. It's sickening sometimes. Smh
I think you are right. I play the lolli attack which is a crazy unpredictable variation of the fried liver attack. Instead of sacking the knight you push D4. I can't tell you how many times they stop for two minutes then comes a barrage of the top engine moves lol you know it's Stockfish when all the pawns start pushing and you reach a point where your pieces are so restricted you can do nothing. I think even Nelson pointed that out once. Then you check the accuracy and the played 96% lol
Or maybe he occasionally has a really good game, like everyone. Both are possible, but of course in the era of the Cheating Inquisition it makes him a definite cheater. That also means that all the streamers who like to highlight every time they have a game with unusually high accuracy must also be cheaters. Woah, Nelson must be a cheater, too, we should all probably dig through the history of his games to see if we can evidence to report, I'm sure somewhere we can find a pattern just as compelling!
@@RealGaryGRNelson is definitely not a cheater, he has his own YT channel, and his accuracy is not high enough to be accused of cheating, also he has a title of NM.
@@chess26622 That's my point. Most good players could probably be accused based on the same type of "evidence" that Nelson uses to accuse people. And just like here, Nelson has definitely had outlier games where he played with very high accuracy. Nelson posted a video in a ratings climb where he had a perfect game with 100 accuracy, but amazingly he didn't accuse himself of cheating afterward. I guarantee if he had been on the other end of that game he would have immediately reported the other player as a cheater.
Big % of game accuracy. He play as Carlsen not a player of his level. I play sometimes games more than 90 % accuracy, but are The short or opponents abandonded game. I have rating ~ 1000 in Blitz. I watch Nelson and his streams and some his Good move in games i remember so i Play better and do not do many bad move as i do before started watched Nelson.
@@arturrzepka6955 What do you mean by accuracy ? Is it Percentage of best moves ? So that if the percentage is too high you will expect that a veteran player is helping him.
@@AbouTaim-Lille he is used a chess application to choose the best move on second open window or another machinę, when he Play on komputer that at smartphone Has a charter machine. Cheater used to move 1 or 2 rather 3 the best move by stockfish i n the moment a game. I am thinking alone, and do progres , cheater doesn't do any progres. Cheater also do move in some Time, in 5sec in 10 sec move by move. He thinking also nad oczywistym ruchami, jak zabicia, groźby szachów itd
@@AbouTaim-Lille typically not a veteran player, almost always a computer program or phone app, using the StockFish chess engine, much stronger than any Grandmaster
Auto-chess bots, most just read the board and say the best 3 moves live. Some can even play for you. I've seen people say it's impossible to cheat in bullet, blablabla. They just really dont understand how strong computers are rn and how good some people can code 😅
Yeah, I mean the guy appears to have cheated in those other games, but he clearly didn't cheat against you, so I feel a little bamboozled by the title. But hey, its youtube and cheater content does well 😂
Someone could stumble upon a high accuracy game like that, but to have two within that span of time makes the probability near zero. And being on tilt? No way.
I'm playing 2200, 2400, 2600 and I beat one on correspondence. Seems like the 1300 play just as good or better on Blitz. I think it's easier to cheat until you get to the 2000. I heard this. Not sure though
Hi Nelson! I was struggling in winning games very much but then i saw your channel and yes it did help me win games as now i calculate every move before playing it but, I noticed that even though when i have a huge positional advantage, i lose on time (Rapid btw) i have seen you thinking, taking ur time but still never actually facing time pressure even though you take much time to play every move, why am i struggling on time then? Can you pls give me some advice
I'm not sure if that person cheated in the epic king walk, it's a lot of time for the engine to deal the final blow. But he definitely cheated in the last two games though. Another fun fact is that a person being banned with fair play policy doesn't necessarily mean they are cheating. I've once played a guy with around 900 blitz rating and he was completely crashed. I reported him for stalling and he was banned soon.
Nelson doesn't cheat, why would he? - way too much to lose, and also, he is like International Master strength without cheating. You aren't the brightest bulb on the tree, are you? 😂
@@carlosedwardos I was not talking about Nelson, I am not accusing him of cheating, I was talking about this 24 move long game where they played against this player named luc2008 where they also had an accuracy of 95.9
If I wanted to cheat, I would rather create a new account, and play until it gets banned so I can prevent unfair point losses to normal people, than to start cheating on my first account, where I only played myself, right? And important is to play until your account gets banned to prevent what I mentioned before. Sometimes everyone of us wants to win some games even in an unfair way, especially in tilt
I derive infinitely more pleasure from amazing moves than winning. Even if my opponent is the one with the amazing moves that cause me to go "Wow!", I've enjoyed the game. I've played numerous players who defeat themselves with blunders and mistakes and I don't consider the win satisfying. In my not so humble opinion, you spend a lot of energy thinking of ways to cheat.
I think that 99.6% accuracy game maybe was against another cheater, I mean 95.9% is pretty damned good as well, did you check his/her account too, or maybe he/she should be playing in tournaments? lol
i caught my first low level cheater i'm a 250 rn and super proud of that.but after like 20 moves this 100 started doing lines a 100 should not know i'm like okay even as a 200 i know something is up he started playing like a 800 or so yeah i lost but he was a sand bagger if ( my homies are 425 and 360 we play OTB) so i know when a 100 is NOT a 100 now. reported that dude and got my rate back. you and levy's book have helped me a lot cheaters suck...
I called this player out when he was low elo!! I KNEW IT! A couple of nationalities just tingle my senses, and spain is one of them. Sorry, but big egos get easily hurt by intelligence 🤷♂️
Nelson played against someone who seemed suspicious once and I think he got banned. His coach contacted Nelson saying he didn't cheat and that his student was "cooking rice" during the game which is why some moves took longer than others.
To a hammer everything is a nail. You seem to want to see cheaters everywhere. Just stop, it's unbecoming. Some of them may be cheating, but it's likely that some of them are not; think about how you're affecting those people. Just play and offer good advice, stop being obsessed with the possibility of cheating.
@@chrisbailey4491 Because no one who is falsely accused is ever wrongfully convicted, and the asessment criteria they use are infallible. Maybe this player was cheating, maybe they weren't, but this type of "evidence" is shaky at best. If you look hard enough you could probably accuse most decent players of cheating, Nelson included.
So... I don't think you beat a cheater. I think you created one...
That's something to be proud of TBH :P
@@Crelids Yeah, that's true
Origin story
Lol exactly. He's batman to their joker
While temporally true, the cheater is responsible for his choices. Good video, nelson.
You cook de rice you pay de price
We need that on a hoodie or something! Merch please!
You made him so hungry for a win that only a cooker full of rice would satisfy
@@Lasidar 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Interesting move by our opponent
His opening/middle games are flawless. What I believe is happening is he uses his rice cooker until he gets a decisive advantage, then finishes the game manually, thus reducing his final accuracy. His poor accuracy games come from opponents like Nelson who survive long enough to make him abandon the engine before having an easy path to victory.
The King walk broke him. You made him do it, man. Or maybe society is to blame.
Boy cooked some gourmet rice
Now you know how Kasparov felt the first game he played against Deep Blue.
that premium Jasmine rice with the 99. final meal
good timing too , im about to eat rice for lunch!
how the tables have turned! in the end you won against the cheater!
Interesting psychology lesson
Sorry if the question seems stupid, total newbie in chess here what exactly he did to cheat? having a computer giving the best accuracy?
yes? here I think he played himself but maybe he used a computer in th previous games
What a GREAT game. That's why you can never resign. The most epic games are when you turn it around big time
Yeah that likely happened, his frustration kicked in. Sometimes I get on a losing streak, but I don't think, "oh let's start cheating". I just take a break and come back at it with a fresh mind.
Yeah, but lots of people dont think like that. Kinda sucks
I do this sometimes, but as I grow up in rating, I do this rarer and rarer. When I was about 1900 in Rapid, I did this quite often. When I was 1600, I even used my main account to cheat. Now, I am about 2150, and last time I remember as I cheated was long time ago. But I would never cheat from my main account with over 4500 games
@@chess26622 Speaking of cheating, I notice Nelson as well as others, when he suspects cheating, he will look at there rapid rating and there blitz and bullet and say things like, "Hmm, 800 blitz and 2150 rapid, huh?" That's what I'm trying to do right now, is get my blitz rating up so it isn't so out of whack with my rapid rating, but it's so much harder since you only have 3 minutes to think.
I don’t doubt players cheat some players anyway like how easy is it for people to cheat doesn’t seem too difficult earlier I was watching a good player on twitch and this guys opponent came up with brilliant moves toward the end of several games but without proof what can be done I felt he was cheating just so coincidental coming up with winning moves out thin air
Is 2419 your highest rating? I've never seen you past the 2300s before.
It's his blitz rating
People start cheating when you: surprise them in the opening.
Win a nice game against them. Play too slowly in the opening. They will also cheat anytime they think you are playing too accurately. It's sickening sometimes. Smh
I think you are right. I play the lolli attack which is a crazy unpredictable variation of the fried liver attack. Instead of sacking the knight you push D4. I can't tell you how many times they stop for two minutes then comes a barrage of the top engine moves lol you know it's Stockfish when all the pawns start pushing and you reach a point where your pieces are so restricted you can do nothing. I think even Nelson pointed that out once. Then you check the accuracy and the played 96% lol
New day, new rice.
We know whats cooking dinner tonight, the RICE Cooker! 😅
Cheaters never prosper, but they make all sorts of rice.
2300 playing like an 800 with 20s left
BRoO Im a genius lol i found the checkmate at 4:55 (im 700 rated)
how would you attack the king in 8:44 though?
trading queens seems like a natural move since we have no attack there.
If there is a perfect example of the idiom insult to injury,this is it. Well done Nelson😊
So he cheats occasionally not a regular one 😂
Or maybe he occasionally has a really good game, like everyone. Both are possible, but of course in the era of the Cheating Inquisition it makes him a definite cheater. That also means that all the streamers who like to highlight every time they have a game with unusually high accuracy must also be cheaters. Woah, Nelson must be a cheater, too, we should all probably dig through the history of his games to see if we can evidence to report, I'm sure somewhere we can find a pattern just as compelling!
@@RealGaryGRNelson is definitely not a cheater, he has his own YT channel, and his accuracy is not high enough to be accused of cheating, also he has a title of NM.
@@chess26622 That's my point. Most good players could probably be accused based on the same type of "evidence" that Nelson uses to accuse people. And just like here, Nelson has definitely had outlier games where he played with very high accuracy. Nelson posted a video in a ratings climb where he had a perfect game with 100 accuracy, but amazingly he didn't accuse himself of cheating afterward. I guarantee if he had been on the other end of that game he would have immediately reported the other player as a cheater.
nelson makes people hungry for rice
Imagine cheating and still lose. Stop cooking rice
blud needs to find a new hobby
This cheater wasn't cheating against Nelson, he started to cheat after these four defeats
Legendary win!
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How do you know he is a cheater? and initially How does he cheat ?
Big % of game accuracy. He play as Carlsen not a player of his level. I play sometimes games more than 90 % accuracy, but are The short or opponents abandonded game. I have rating ~ 1000 in Blitz. I watch Nelson and his streams and some his Good move in games i remember so i Play better and do not do many bad move as i do before started watched Nelson.
@@arturrzepka6955
What do you mean by accuracy ? Is it Percentage of best moves ? So that if the percentage is too high you will expect that a veteran player is helping him.
@@AbouTaim-Lille he is used a chess application to choose the best move on second open window or another machinę, when he Play on komputer that at smartphone Has a charter machine. Cheater used to move 1 or 2 rather 3 the best move by stockfish i n the moment a game. I am thinking alone, and do progres , cheater doesn't do any progres. Cheater also do move in some Time, in 5sec in 10 sec move by move. He thinking also nad oczywistym ruchami, jak zabicia, groźby szachów itd
@@AbouTaim-Lille typically not a veteran player, almost always a computer program or phone app, using the StockFish chess engine, much stronger than any Grandmaster
Nelson you have 200+ unchecked messages!!
@@asztapaszta9 lol
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How can anyone cheat in 3 mins game 😢😢
Auto-chess bots, most just read the board and say the best 3 moves live. Some can even play for you. I've seen people say it's impossible to cheat in bullet, blablabla. They just really dont understand how strong computers are rn and how good some people can code 😅
Yeah, I mean the guy appears to have cheated in those other games, but he clearly didn't cheat against you, so I feel a little bamboozled by the title. But hey, its youtube and cheater content does well 😂
Someone could stumble upon a high accuracy game like that, but to have two within that span of time makes the probability near zero. And being on tilt? No way.
Went to go laugh at him on twitch but he hasn't streamed for 3 years :(
lol me too.
5:25 The Impostor Pawn 💀
Impawnster
The king chase is so bad for a 2000+ which indicates a not-there-player.
Cheater pumpkin eaters...Great defense Against all odds wild game. The best ones to play
I'm playing 2200, 2400, 2600 and I beat one on correspondence. Seems like the 1300 play just as good or better on Blitz. I think it's easier to cheat until you get to the 2000. I heard this. Not sure though
Hi Nelson! I was struggling in winning games very much but then i saw your channel and yes it did help me win games as now i calculate every move before playing it but, I noticed that even though when i have a huge positional advantage, i lose on time (Rapid btw) i have seen you thinking, taking ur time but still never actually facing time pressure even though you take much time to play every move, why am i struggling on time then? Can you pls give me some advice
I wonder whether he cheats on Call of Duty Black Ops? Poor guy has twitch and reddit handles too.
I was looking at your profile and saw this incredible game, wondering what the hell happened! Thanks for making a video about it 😊
I think it’s either you caused him to cheat or it was sparse sporadic cheating that got a bit more aggressive after you played him
That's sad ! 2300 at blitz , a galaxy away from my 850 , yet they needed to cheat ! Their ego must have taken a battering 😮
10:26 A frustrated player who wants to win, by desperately making stockfish moves. Surprised this account is 8 years old.
I'm not sure if that person cheated in the epic king walk, it's a lot of time for the engine to deal the final blow. But he definitely cheated in the last two games though.
Another fun fact is that a person being banned with fair play policy doesn't necessarily mean they are cheating. I've once played a guy with around 900 blitz rating and he was completely crashed. I reported him for stalling and he was banned soon.
Absolutely amazing that you were able to tame and even play this obviously docile cheetah in any form.
Please desist. Focus on what makes Chess Vibes great.
How on earth can someone get to 2300 and not get caught long before for cheating! Cheating is such a serious problem!!
Well he didnt cheat in the games he played against, he cheayed after the games, so he wasnt a cheater when you beat him 4 times.
Am hopping you will be willing to cook rice one day
More rice pudding; I hope your opponent was hungry. Chow down!
Beating my opponent into cheating...
Crazy the amount of cheating scandal these days😢
Prince go on walkabout and become a King!!!
A rather epic walk of the king 😀 Nice.
YoU cAnT aCcUsE HiM oF cHeAtiNg! 🤓
Beat a cheater that wasn’t cheating against you. What planet are you on.
11:29 minute yap seesion with nelson?
Another cooker of da rice
Can someone fill me in on “rice?”
You Made him rage cheat.
I had a similar problem.
You should play Fortnite instead of chess. You can't even be Eminem or Iron Man in chess.
what does that even mean? Is Eminem a good chess player?
@@danbarkles8499 jealousy
9:10 I think in this game two cheaters played against each other, the other one also had an accuracy of 95.9
Nelson doesn't cheat, why would he? - way too much to lose, and also, he is like International Master strength without cheating. You aren't the brightest bulb on the tree, are you? 😂
@@carlosedwardos I was not talking about Nelson, I am not accusing him of cheating, I was talking about this 24 move long game where they played against this player named luc2008 where they also had an accuracy of 95.9
Cute thumbie 🤓
good for you
If I wanted to cheat, I would rather create a new account, and play until it gets banned so I can prevent unfair point losses to normal people, than to start cheating on my first account, where I only played myself, right? And important is to play until your account gets banned to prevent what I mentioned before. Sometimes everyone of us wants to win some games even in an unfair way, especially in tilt
I derive infinitely more pleasure from amazing moves than winning. Even if my opponent is the one with the amazing moves that cause me to go "Wow!", I've enjoyed the game. I've played numerous players who defeat themselves with blunders and mistakes and I don't consider the win satisfying. In my not so humble opinion, you spend a lot of energy thinking of ways to cheat.
I think that 99.6% accuracy game maybe was against another cheater, I mean 95.9% is pretty damned good as well, did you check his/her account too, or maybe he/she should be playing in tournaments? lol
Ha I thought the same thing.
I wonder: how can someone cheat in a 3 minute game? Must be working very hard….
3 minutes is quite enough to cheat. I would rather ask how people cheat in 1 minute games if I met one
i caught my first low level cheater i'm a 250 rn and super proud of that.but after like 20 moves this 100 started doing lines a 100 should not know i'm like okay even as a 200 i know something is up he started playing like a 800 or so yeah i lost but he was a sand bagger if ( my homies are 425 and 360 we play OTB) so i know when a 100 is NOT a 100 now. reported that dude and got my rate back. you and levy's book have helped me a lot cheaters suck...
Blitz games are dumb. He deserved to win that 4th game vs you
I called this player out when he was low elo!! I KNEW IT! A couple of nationalities just tingle my senses, and spain is one of them. Sorry, but big egos get easily hurt by intelligence 🤷♂️
HAHA ACTIVE SINCE 2016 AND BANNED!! WELL DESERVED, BRAVO!
I believe that rice cooking is a term coined by Want a Naroditsky? All the best!
Nelson played against someone who seemed suspicious once and I think he got banned. His coach contacted Nelson saying he didn't cheat and that his student was "cooking rice" during the game which is why some moves took longer than others.
Rice cooker email guy is still unbanned I happened to watch that video recently and decided to check.
To a hammer everything is a nail. You seem to want to see cheaters everywhere. Just stop, it's unbecoming. Some of them may be cheating, but it's likely that some of them are not; think about how you're affecting those people. Just play and offer good advice, stop being obsessed with the possibility of cheating.
He was banned. So it was not just Nelson who thought he was cheating
@@chrisbailey4491 Because no one who is falsely accused is ever wrongfully convicted, and the asessment criteria they use are infallible. Maybe this player was cheating, maybe they weren't, but this type of "evidence" is shaky at best. If you look hard enough you could probably accuse most decent players of cheating, Nelson included.
rissotto cooking tn
Congratulations, you beat stockfish 4 times in a row😂
The guy clearly wasn't cheating in his games against Nelson
@@r33th He is calling every player a cheater. It's not a sign of master
@@sudhirchauhan2154Yes, the constant accusations of cheating are just ugly.
When is the next stream ?
He is usually stream on thursday but im live in asia maybe it wednesday in US ?