The deer move down on to private acerages when hunting season starts. I don't see a deer on my 60 acres all year and then in the first week of September I have a herd hanging out with the horses.
I am an avid bow hunter. I do rifle hunt, but use it primarily for scouting new areas. Each year, I see it…again and again,….people don’t want to walk any further than 1/4 mile. I use a customized, camo painted bike,…riding it along the roadway where I can duck in,…then hike in a 1 1/2 miles,..crossing beaver dams and navigating swamps. I even store hip boots in a locked bin to cross creeks.
I'm 63 and I gave up trying to hunt with other guys. Most people don't have the drive or determination to hunt with long term. My former hunting buddy has moved on to glory.
I hear ya, but, as difficult as it is finding somebody I trust in the woods, I would rather go with someone who is not my ideal hunting buddy than go alone. There are just too many things that can go wrong to be alone out there.
I hunt ridge tops in the morning and bottoms in the evening due to prevailing air currents. Air rises in the morning due to heating (and deer like to bed on top of ridges). Also, being on top of a ridge gives you a better vantage point, nice if you are using a rifle. In the evening, the air is cooling and rolling down the hills into the bottoms. And the deer move down from bedding areas to feed. Obviously, food plots placed on top of ridges, etc can change this somewhat.
I have a good buddy to go with and we have been really successful paralleling eachother. 1 on top of a ridge and the other mid ridge in the morning. If the guy on top is getting winded he is bumping animals to the lower hunter and you are catching everything between from different angles so you spot a lot more bedded animals. Just my 2 cents.
My wife’s uncle and I absolutely HAMMERED bucks tag teaming areas. Both tagged out the last season he was around before he passed. Honestly feel lonely hunting now without him. It’s cool having a hunting friend that’s just as committed to it as you.
I'm with ya! As an older/ female hunter I am restricted to where I either have help, or can drag/ pack it out. We need a " deer. Drag" service I can hire. When I need it!
I used to think like this but what I discovered was if the cover is next to roads or parking areas that's where those smart older bucks will be patterning hunters! Personally witnessed this on some of hardest hunted gamelands in Pa. 51st year hunting these same game lands found sheds and deadhead in these places !
Yes, found this out this year! Same with turkeys...and yes, I'm from PA also. People are listening to this "gotta get further back in" stuff, but now the game is adapting just like they always do!
I walked several miles and saw lots of buck signs and bedding areas, but no deer. On the way out, I got within 200 ft of the gate to leave the WMA and I jumped deer in the cover right at the main entrance lol
I lived near game lands. I watched the hunters park along the road. They would walk out into the field while the deer were standing on the road watching them go. My husband hunts across the river. When he leaves there is a giant buck that stands in our yard.
I’m wondering if you could do one of the studies in the Northeast like in New York because we have maybe 5000 WMA‘s and I can guarantee you more than 5% of them are covered by hunters because there’s just not enough area.
Generally speaking I agree with these guys, but, there are so many variables it is difficult to draw hard and fast conclusions. A couple years ago, I hunted a 1400 acre parcel of mostly timber with four other guys. We split up, and we each hunted through the area planning to meet at a point on the other side. After about 15 minutes of still-hunting, I sat down on a log just to listen and watch. Less than five minutes later, two bucks came straight toward me, I picked the one I wanted and my season was over. As far as I could tell, my buddies had kicked up the bucks and instead of running ahead, the animals circled around behind and I filled my tag because they were reacting to the other hunters, not to me.
We use to do what i call long hunts. On public, the walk in was far enough that we didn't come in, go out and hunt the afternoon. We would hunt all day or hunt daylight til 1-2pm. Afternoon would be a 10-11am until dark.
Wouldn't paralleling the road be hunting on the side of the road? When you walk perpendicular to a road doesn't that mean you're walking away from the road?
Yea, he’s saying going parallel to get to a hard to access spot. If hunters are parking every couple miles down a road and walking in, getting into that space between that nobody is accessing due to terrain features.
@@meghan7547 no, he has a very good point that everyone parks and walks perpendicular to the road thinking they are getting away from the crowd when in reality if they would park and walk parallel with the road into areas with no easy parking/access that would be much better
Given the information learned by this study, what do you suggest for hunters who have knee and lower back issues who cannot walk far, or who can not walk over difficult terrain (steep or thickly vegetated)?
We had a guy in my club who would always go out after everyone else (most of us went out in the dark) and then he would hunt close to the house… he shot a ton of deer by paying attention when he knew we all would be headed back for lunch lol he used us being hangry to do a deer drive for him.
I'm with you, I have stage 3 heart failure, arthritis in my lower back and both knees, my Dr. told me to stay out of the woods, but I still need to hunt. I hunt a 100,000 acre state forest and anything remotely accusable for me has 3-4 trucks parked there. I am going to resolve myself to bow hunt when these guys are at home. Even with a handicap hunting permit I can hunt from my truck, but a lot of good that does.
@ God bless my brother and take care of yourself I plan on staying in the woods hunting fishing trapping hiking etc until the year that I die because if you were to take me out of the woods I might as well be dead. But my other suggestion is try socializing with some of the guys even in the parking area leave a post it with ur number or just go introduce we are birds of a feather and maybe you can get them to do a Deer drives. I had no problem as a younger man doing a deer drive for one of the older members of my club to sit… We had members in their 80s shooting deer and telling us this is probably the 300s deer that I shot in my life but this is the one I will remember to my grave and that in turn makes the next generation wanna do it .
When I was hunting elk in some thick timber they'd always bust me because it's so hard to see them. But they'd always spook in the same direction and follow the same patterns. Once you've spooked them once there's zero chance you'll be able to stalk up on them again unless you anticipate where they are going and cut them off. I'm guessing they just follow a certain loop for those few weeks until they migrate somewhere different. I've walked miles into rugged country and seen nothing and I've gone 300 yards off the road in common hunting areas and found elk. It's all about where the elk are that time of year and you just have to put the time and miles in.
If everyone parks on the road, and most enter perpendicularly to the road, the walking parallel would just run you into another person who parked further down. Or you’d be hunting between the other guys and the road hoping they didn’t push the deer or elk further into the woods.
he's talking about from general parking areas on a roadway. You typically can't or most don't just pull randomly along the side of a piece of road they pull into a turn out/pull off/gated forest road etc
I figured this out after 40 years of hunting North Ga WMAs. I've also found you can kill really big bucks on small acres of land with no hunting pressure. You can grunt and they will come to you. Hunting is finding unpressured deer, get away from other people. i.e. Dawson Forest WMA but dont hunt the atlanta tract. go to the north tracts with less city boys.
For the life of me I cannot understand why during firearm, peak rut, hunters pack it up after a couple hrs then go back out in the evening. Almost all my firearm deer on state land were killed at lunch time.
This opening day I watched hunters to the north, east, and west of me walk past at 10am to get out of the rain and go back, the big buck played low in the grass and watched them pass until 11
That’s crazy high. NB Canada here. Lucky to have 10 on 100,000 acres where I hunt and I still get upset seeing someone anywhere near my area. Guess I have it very good compared to what others deal with
Also the deer aren't pressured this year cuz there's not a lot hunting going on because of the economy....I live in a rural area surrounded by hunting land. This time of year I usually wake up to the sound of hunters taking deer, I have my dinner to sound of more deer going to heaven. This year not so much, I see very little hunting actively....Honestly this year I hear more of my neighbors poaching deer in the middle of the night than I do legitimate hunting.
50,000 acres? Our wma is less than 5000 acres AND there are access trails/roads everyplace. I don't think you can get a mile from a road or parking lot.
I think hunters are also afraid of scaring deer and then not seeing anything. The flawed idea being that if you can find a nice stand of oaks or a nice creek bottom and slip in on one side, you can get a nice deer. On a huge tract, you should accept that you might bump deer. You should also figure out the main beds and feeding areas, adjust your hike in for the wind relative to those areas, and accept that you may bump deer on the way. On 50k acre WMA’s, it really doesn’t matter if you bump deer. There are plenty more around.
In that situation, you could focus on the stands as the high pressure spots (ladder stands, box blinds, food plots, etc) For instance, on my lease we have a main road that has several food plots off the edge of it that get hunted hard. I have had success parking between the food plots and going into the woods between all those food plots. Most hunters are going to drive right by those woods on their way to the food plots
@@thesouthernoutdoorsmen yes, that part is obvious. I was referring more to the hike several miles part. But, should I be hunting SMZ’s with a climber? Or, the places where SMZ’s meet plantation pines? Should I cut a fire lane between the SMZ’s and pines, and wait to ambush them on the firelane? Instead of putting green fields on a ridge line where the road is, should I position them between plantation pines and SMZ’s? Should I cut a trail across a saddle and create an ambush spot? What does the GPS data tell us about those questions?
@@64RRussell this info is obviously not meant for applying to such a tiny area. It seems odd that you would try to apply advice for a certain specific scenario to a completely different scenario
Getting to where the big bucks are is the priority. I think in field camping and packing out meat is going to be a big separation of the majority and the successful minority.
I just woke up from going to bed at 2 am because I started a pack out on a black bear yesterday at 3:45. It’s 100% the separation, just walking the woods you can tell where people stop, trails, trash, human sign all stops about 500 yards from the road in these mnts. And that’s only maybe halfway to where the real hunting is. Debone and pack out is the game here and really the only way to kill anything over 130”
Doesn't sound like there is any hunters to speak of in the test 250 acres of woods per hunter i wish I had that much room to hunt without seeing anybody else
I don’t follow when he says to go parallel to the road. If I go parallel and 4 others go perpendicular, I’m just crossing their path, or worse walking past their stand. I guess I need a diagram to explain how I’m both not hunting from a road and not screwing someone else’s set.
You walk parallel to the road a spell to get away from the parking areas, *then* turn perpendicular and get into the woods. Probably in an area that's not as easy to access. Being 'between stands' and further out than the rest is the idea. If you think about it, where are the parking areas? Draw a 500 yard circle around those parking areas, and that's where hunters will be. Expand that circle another 100 to 200 yards, and you'll have the effective limit if how far they can shoot given average skill, equipment, density of the woods etc. So figure you go a thousand yards in, does it even matter how close you are to where someone else went in? Unless they're going out on a similar expedition you're not gonna be anywhere near one another.
Disagree all you want but big bucks will go away from hunting pressure and I’ve hunted public and private land for over 40 years and killed a lot of bucks and the less hunting pressure the better your chances. Not saying you can’t kill a buck right beside the road but your chances are better away from the pressure that’s not an opinion it’s fact!
People forget that most hunters dont go far because they plan on having to pack out an entire animal. If youre doing this on your own, its only as far as youre willing to pack that animal on your back.
Sorry. But this study is severely flawed. No hubter that is part of the 1% (1% kill 99%), woupd let you know their location while hunting. These are all the gomers of public land that you have data on. The game has changed in the last 5 years.... Not to mention this is an incredibly broad generalization. Land and areas have nuances that killers look for.
i watched the whole thing before they got to the piece of information that made this information irrelevant, ie: they only tagged and tracked does on properties where doe hunting is not allowed!
He literally said in the video they had deer and hunters in places that overlapped. The Doe probably don't know the difference between 'buck season' and 'doe season' or property where you can or can't hunt doe (but can hunt buck).
I think you guys should do a video on not packing deer out where I live in NC I cannot cunt the deer up and I hunt by myself...how the hell you go over 2 ridges and drag 160lb deer out by yourself???
@NontypicalCaptain lol I know how but the processing places around here don't have the space to hang 4 legs back straps plus tenderloin and store neck meat ...
If you walk anywhere in the woods you are moving deer. It’s like someone walking into your house. If you are using a flashlight in the woods after dark, you’re moving deer.
@thesouthernoutdoorsmen I figured. I'd love to know about similar studies out west. I've had the benefit of always hunting private so never had to suffer public pressure
And if you don't see any deer, you really don't care and think I don't have to do all that work of dressing and dragging?! Then you pack another bowl! 🤫😁
I learned an easy way to avoid hunters. They learned not to hunt near me real quick bc if I catch a hunter near me like today I play a big speaker that I keep in my bag an I play a loud song called I didn't get no deer because of yall. Yall ain't gonna get no deer because of me. An I play it on repeat until they leave.😂 Today I did that to this guy because he sat 10yards from me I'm wearing orange againts a tree in a field an this man walked across the entire field an say 10yards from me like wtf bro I know ur ass saw me bc I seen u once u hit the field.😂
Why didn't you have a chart n maps of what your talking about. Anybody that hunts knows what your talking about. I wayched this video looking for actual photos and charts and good info. By the way the host guy doesn't look like he hikes far from the all you can eat buffet. Waste of my time.
The deer move down on to private acerages when hunting season starts. I don't see a deer on my 60 acres all year and then in the first week of September I have a herd hanging out with the horses.
We need info on the fellas that shook their head and said no thank you to the gps 😂
Bingo
I am an avid bow hunter. I do rifle hunt, but use it primarily for scouting new areas. Each year, I see it…again and again,….people don’t want to walk any further than 1/4 mile. I use a customized, camo painted bike,…riding it along the roadway where I can duck in,…then hike in a 1 1/2 miles,..crossing beaver dams and navigating swamps. I even store hip boots in a locked bin to cross creeks.
I just found you guys recently Since we moved to southern missouri. Another great video we appreciate it
I'm 63 and I gave up trying to hunt with other guys. Most people don't have the drive or determination to hunt with long term. My former hunting buddy has moved on to glory.
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I hear ya, but, as difficult as it is finding somebody I trust in the woods, I would rather go with someone who is not my ideal hunting buddy than go alone. There are just too many things that can go wrong to be alone out there.
@@Ron-ku2vy hunting big bucks in the sky?
Hit the old glory hole, eh?
@@littlerayofsunshine69 I think what Ron meant was his buddy went home to be with the Lord
Helpful information for people in areas with huge tracts of public land. Would love to hear his observations on highly pressured deer.
I hunt ridge tops in the morning and bottoms in the evening due to prevailing air currents. Air rises in the morning due to heating (and deer like to bed on top of ridges). Also, being on top of a ridge gives you a better vantage point, nice if you are using a rifle. In the evening, the air is cooling and rolling down the hills into the bottoms. And the deer move down from bedding areas to feed. Obviously, food plots placed on top of ridges, etc can change this somewhat.
I have a good buddy to go with and we have been really successful paralleling eachother. 1 on top of a ridge and the other mid ridge in the morning. If the guy on top is getting winded he is bumping animals to the lower hunter and you are catching everything between from different angles so you spot a lot more bedded animals. Just my 2 cents.
I love hunting but am I the only one these days that's having hard time finding people to go with. Damn phones.
My wife’s uncle and I absolutely HAMMERED bucks tag teaming areas. Both tagged out the last season he was around before he passed. Honestly feel lonely hunting now without him. It’s cool having a hunting friend that’s just as committed to it as you.
Nope same here! Nobody wants to work/scout hang n hunt! Everybody lazy af!
Wisconsin public land hunter here! Hmu
Could you carry me around on your shoulders 😅
It’s easier by yourself, less scent less noise etc
I'm with ya! As an older/ female hunter I am restricted to where I either have help, or can drag/ pack it out. We need a " deer. Drag" service I can hire. When I need it!
I go in at least an hour before and at least a mile in on public and use terrain and other hunters push deer to me when they start going to the stand
I used to think like this but what I discovered was if the cover is next to roads or parking areas that's where those smart older bucks will be patterning hunters! Personally witnessed this on some of hardest hunted gamelands in Pa. 51st year hunting these same game lands found sheds and deadhead in these places !
Pa. hunter here, 50 years. You are absolutely correct. These smart bucks let you walk right past them.
Yes, found this out this year! Same with turkeys...and yes, I'm from PA also. People are listening to this "gotta get further back in" stuff, but now the game is adapting just like they always do!
I walked several miles and saw lots of buck signs and bedding areas, but no deer. On the way out, I got within 200 ft of the gate to leave the WMA and I jumped deer in the cover right at the main entrance lol
I set up dear cameras, and they go right up to my camera and sniff it like nothing, deer, do what they want when they want
Whose dear are you taking pictures of?@@MrSprintcatget an education.
I lived near game lands. I watched the hunters park along the road. They would walk out into the field while the deer were standing on the road watching them go.
My husband hunts across the river. When he leaves there is a giant buck that stands in our yard.
I’m wondering if you could do one of the studies in the Northeast like in New York because we have maybe 5000 WMA‘s and I can guarantee you more than 5% of them are covered by hunters because there’s just not enough area.
Generally speaking I agree with these guys, but, there are so many variables it is difficult to draw hard and fast conclusions. A couple years ago, I hunted a 1400 acre parcel of mostly timber with four other guys. We split up, and we each hunted through the area planning to meet at a point on the other side. After about 15 minutes of still-hunting, I sat down on a log just to listen and watch. Less than five minutes later, two bucks came straight toward me, I picked the one I wanted and my season was over. As far as I could tell, my buddies had kicked up the bucks and instead of running ahead, the animals circled around behind and I filled my tag because they were reacting to the other hunters, not to me.
We use to do what i call long hunts. On public, the walk in was far enough that we didn't come in, go out and hunt the afternoon. We would hunt all day or hunt daylight til 1-2pm. Afternoon would be a 10-11am until dark.
Wouldn't paralleling the road be hunting on the side of the road? When you walk perpendicular to a road doesn't that mean you're walking away from the road?
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Yea, he’s saying going parallel to get to a hard to access spot. If hunters are parking every couple miles down a road and walking in, getting into that space between that nobody is accessing due to terrain features.
@@andrewpayne2811 thank you for the explanation. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Sounds like he had his perpendicular and parallel mixed to me.
@@meghan7547 no, he has a very good point that everyone parks and walks perpendicular to the road thinking they are getting away from the crowd when in reality if they would park and walk parallel with the road into areas with no easy parking/access that would be much better
What did the study say about success rates? Thanks
Given the information learned by this study, what do you suggest for hunters who have knee and lower back issues who cannot walk far, or who can not walk over difficult terrain (steep or thickly vegetated)?
I think you do the opposite of what most are doing. Find a parking area and go parallel with the road versus straight in
We had a guy in my club who would always go out after everyone else (most of us went out in the dark) and then he would hunt close to the house… he shot a ton of deer by paying attention when he knew we all would be headed back for lunch lol he used us being hangry to do a deer drive for him.
Use an electric bike
I'm with you, I have stage 3 heart failure, arthritis in my lower back and both knees, my Dr. told me to stay out of the woods, but I still need to hunt. I hunt a 100,000 acre state forest and anything remotely accusable for me has 3-4 trucks parked there. I am going to resolve myself to bow hunt when these guys are at home. Even with a handicap hunting permit I can hunt from my truck, but a lot of good that does.
@ God bless my brother and take care of yourself I plan on staying in the woods hunting fishing trapping hiking etc until the year that I die because if you were to take me out of the woods I might as well be dead. But my other suggestion is try socializing with some of the guys even in the parking area leave a post it with ur number or just go introduce we are birds of a feather and maybe you can get them to do a Deer drives. I had no problem as a younger man doing a deer drive for one of the older members of my club to sit… We had members in their 80s shooting deer and telling us this is probably the 300s deer that I shot in my life but this is the one I will remember to my grave and that in turn makes the next generation wanna do it .
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When I was hunting elk in some thick timber they'd always bust me because it's so hard to see them. But they'd always spook in the same direction and follow the same patterns. Once you've spooked them once there's zero chance you'll be able to stalk up on them again unless you anticipate where they are going and cut them off. I'm guessing they just follow a certain loop for those few weeks until they migrate somewhere different. I've walked miles into rugged country and seen nothing and I've gone 300 yards off the road in common hunting areas and found elk. It's all about where the elk are that time of year and you just have to put the time and miles in.
If everyone parks on the road, and most enter perpendicularly to the road, the walking parallel would just run you into another person who parked further down. Or you’d be hunting between the other guys and the road hoping they didn’t push the deer or elk further into the woods.
Yeah that didn’t really make sense. I assume he was talking about places where the road turned in a different direction
he's talking about from general parking areas on a roadway. You typically can't or most don't just pull randomly along the side of a piece of road they pull into a turn out/pull off/gated forest road etc
@@eriksanders2032 ah that makes sense. This is my first season hunting and I’ve parked at trail heads every time
I figured this out after 40 years of hunting North Ga WMAs. I've also found you can kill really big bucks on small acres of land with no hunting pressure. You can grunt and they will come to you. Hunting is finding unpressured deer, get away from other people. i.e. Dawson Forest WMA but dont hunt the atlanta tract. go to the north tracts with less city boys.
Gino is a smart man!
Good video!
For the life of me I cannot understand why during firearm, peak rut, hunters pack it up after a couple hrs then go back out in the evening. Almost all my firearm deer on state land were killed at lunch time.
This opening day I watched hunters to the north, east, and west of me walk past at 10am to get out of the rain and go back, the big buck played low in the grass and watched them pass until 11
10 people on 250 acres is a lot
That’s crazy high.
NB Canada here.
Lucky to have 10 on 100,000 acres where I hunt and I still get upset seeing someone anywhere near my area.
Guess I have it very good compared to what others deal with
If i see 1 other hunter in a 1200 acre area, its too much.
@@robmainville2632you have it very very good that way
the area studied had 1 hunter per 250 acres
@@rumnboats7612In my opinion that is a lot of ppl, especially if they don't know each other
Still hunting & elevation changes are KILLIN my knees y'all
100% accurate regarding wma hunts.
Also the deer aren't pressured this year cuz there's not a lot hunting going on because of the economy....I live in a rural area surrounded by hunting land. This time of year I usually wake up to the sound of hunters taking deer, I have my dinner to sound of more deer going to heaven. This year not so much, I see very little hunting actively....Honestly this year I hear more of my neighbors poaching deer in the middle of the night than I do legitimate hunting.
50,000 acres? Our wma is less than 5000 acres AND there are access trails/roads everyplace. I don't think you can get a mile from a road or parking lot.
going "far" in the west is different from "far" in the east. To me (in the west) 5+ mile hike in is "far" 1-3 miles one way is every day stuff.
Yep, very true and some western hunters talk about going much farther in than that. Two very different games for sure
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I think hunters are also afraid of scaring deer and then not seeing anything. The flawed idea being that if you can find a nice stand of oaks or a nice creek bottom and slip in on one side, you can get a nice deer. On a huge tract, you should accept that you might bump deer. You should also figure out the main beds and feeding areas, adjust your hike in for the wind relative to those areas, and accept that you may bump deer on the way. On 50k acre WMA’s, it really doesn’t matter if you bump deer. There are plenty more around.
I am not sure how to apply this to private land hunting on a few hundred acres.
Same thought here. I don’t think it applies at all.
private land, you hunt sign, if there's no scrapes, rubs or droppings there's usually no deer.....simple
In that situation, you could focus on the stands as the high pressure spots (ladder stands, box blinds, food plots, etc)
For instance, on my lease we have a main road that has several food plots off the edge of it that get hunted hard. I have had success parking between the food plots and going into the woods between all those food plots. Most hunters are going to drive right by those woods on their way to the food plots
@@thesouthernoutdoorsmen yes, that part is obvious. I was referring more to the hike several miles part.
But, should I be hunting SMZ’s with a climber? Or, the places where SMZ’s meet plantation pines?
Should I cut a fire lane between the SMZ’s and pines, and wait to ambush them on the firelane?
Instead of putting green fields on a ridge line where the road is, should I position them between plantation pines and SMZ’s?
Should I cut a trail across a saddle and create an ambush spot?
What does the GPS data tell us about those questions?
@@64RRussell this info is obviously not meant for applying to such a tiny area. It seems odd that you would try to apply advice for a certain specific scenario to a completely different scenario
Hey I know that guy.
Getting to where the big bucks are is the priority. I think in field camping and packing out meat is going to be a big separation of the majority and the successful minority.
I just woke up from going to bed at 2 am because I started a pack out on a black bear yesterday at 3:45. It’s 100% the separation, just walking the woods you can tell where people stop, trails, trash, human sign all stops about 500 yards from the road in these mnts. And that’s only maybe halfway to where the real hunting is. Debone and pack out is the game here and really the only way to kill anything over 130”
Doesn't sound like there is any hunters to speak of in the test 250 acres of woods per hunter i wish I had that much room to hunt without seeing anybody else
I don’t follow when he says to go parallel to the road. If I go parallel and 4 others go perpendicular, I’m just crossing their path, or worse walking past their stand.
I guess I need a diagram to explain how I’m both not hunting from a road and not screwing someone else’s set.
You walk parallel to the road a spell to get away from the parking areas, *then* turn perpendicular and get into the woods. Probably in an area that's not as easy to access. Being 'between stands' and further out than the rest is the idea. If you think about it, where are the parking areas? Draw a 500 yard circle around those parking areas, and that's where hunters will be. Expand that circle another 100 to 200 yards, and you'll have the effective limit if how far they can shoot given average skill, equipment, density of the woods etc. So figure you go a thousand yards in, does it even matter how close you are to where someone else went in? Unless they're going out on a similar expedition you're not gonna be anywhere near one another.
Must be talking about white tails. The mule deer in Utah…….good luck packing those out.
Thanks for the obvious info of if you get farther back away from people you’ll have better luck! I could have told you that without the study!
Have to disagree. When you have roads (parking areas) you have homes/camps. There you’ll find grass, browse etc and DEER!
Disagree all you want but big bucks will go away from hunting pressure and I’ve hunted public and private land for over 40 years and killed a lot of bucks and the less hunting pressure the better your chances. Not saying you can’t kill a buck right beside the road but your chances are better away from the pressure that’s not an opinion it’s fact!
It sounds like they didn’t have enough deer collared to get an idea of what they were doing, surely some people were bumping deer somewhere
Where I hunt I hardly ever bump deer. Stuff is so thick where they bed that you can’t get close enough to bump them.
Lol 🤣 I went in 1.6 miles 3 times and encountered hunters every time
People forget that most hunters dont go far because they plan on having to pack out an entire animal. If youre doing this on your own, its only as far as youre willing to pack that animal on your back.
Sorry. But this study is severely flawed.
No hubter that is part of the 1% (1% kill 99%), woupd let you know their location while hunting. These are all the gomers of public land that you have data on. The game has changed in the last 5 years....
Not to mention this is an incredibly broad generalization. Land and areas have nuances that killers look for.
i watched the whole thing before they got to the piece of information that made this information irrelevant, ie: they only tagged and tracked does on properties where doe hunting is not allowed!
He literally said in the video they had deer and hunters in places that overlapped. The Doe probably don't know the difference between 'buck season' and 'doe season' or property where you can or can't hunt doe (but can hunt buck).
@@cavalieroutdoors6036 they figure it out very quickly when they are being shot at
Where in this country is a wma that when you walk in a mile an a half that your not a mile an a half away from some other road ...... I'll wait
Strap a GPS on my A-- I'll walk in circles 😅
Pro tip, scout and hunt the nastiest swamps in the area. Stay out of the hardwoods, deer only use them at night mostly.
I think you guys should do a video on not packing deer out where I live in NC I cannot cunt the deer up and I hunt by myself...how the hell you go over 2 ridges and drag 160lb deer out by yourself???
They have a field quartering video was a few years ago
@NontypicalCaptain lol I know how but the processing places around here don't have the space to hang 4 legs back straps plus tenderloin and store neck meat ...
@@chrismacomber9727get a sled and 1 step at a time.ive done it at lbl without a sled because you have to check in the full deer
I’ve drug big bucks on public hunting solo till literally I was throwing up! A few times! It’s not fun!
ua-cam.com/video/9s9wka1xluA/v-deo.htmlsi=7hSxPK4O9LIFREax here is the link
If you walk anywhere in the woods you are moving deer.
It’s like someone walking into your house.
If you are using a flashlight in the woods after dark, you’re moving deer.
if you wanna see more game, walk faster, and further. I’m just gonna sit 200 yards off the road and wait remember you can’t eat the antlers
East coast hunters crack me up. “You mean I have to pack the deer out?!” That’s every hunt out west partner.
This clearly is about eastern hunting. Deciduous? Not out west
Correct. This study was done in GA
@thesouthernoutdoorsmen I figured. I'd love to know about similar studies out west.
I've had the benefit of always hunting private so never had to suffer public pressure
you basically asked the hunters to tell you where there spots were at. Your datas skewed cause you didn't gps any real hunters.
Typical biologist in this day and age. All bad data.
All the interviewer does is repeat everything the biologist says.
The deer don't come out until you pack a fat bowl to smoke.
That's how I got my first deer 😂
And if you don't see any deer, you really don't care and think I don't have to do all that work of dressing and dragging?! Then you pack another bowl! 🤫😁
Have yet to watch a useful video from these guys... EVERY one is about Ekerns, whatever that is. 🤣
Well we appreciate you coming back to watch more 🤣😅
@thesouthernoutdoorsmen Titles get me to click, then I realize it's just more ekerns....
This is probably my favorite hunting podcast and I’m not even from the south, to each their own I guess
Lol I don't want to drag a deer a mile.
I learned an easy way to avoid hunters. They learned not to hunt near me real quick bc if I catch a hunter near me like today I play a big speaker that I keep in my bag an I play a loud song called I didn't get no deer because of yall. Yall ain't gonna get no deer because of me. An I play it on repeat until they leave.😂
Today I did that to this guy because he sat 10yards from me I'm wearing orange againts a tree in a field an this man walked across the entire field an say 10yards from me like wtf bro I know ur ass saw me bc I seen u once u hit the field.😂
Video proof or it didn’t happen 🤣😂🤣
Hunter harassment is very illegal so watch yourself if you actually did this 😂
This didn't happen, this is a troll looking for nothing but a rise. Move on pest.
Felony in PA for harassment 😂😂
That’s hunter harassment. You will be fined just for posting content that you did it.
Why didn't you have a chart n maps of what your talking about. Anybody that hunts knows what your talking about. I wayched this video looking for actual photos and charts and good info. By the way the host guy doesn't look like he hikes far from the all you can eat buffet. Waste of my time.
A biologist is the worst thing ever invented in the worst thing for wildlife
Yes, education sucks.🙄
Drop and give me 20
Most deer hunters are lazy
Come to mississinewa in indiana and your data will flip upside down