Better than James Hoffmann?? The Other Ultimate Clever Dripper Guide

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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2020
  • In this video, I run you through my go-to recipe for how to brew a Clever Coffee Dripper. The Clever Dripper is the perfect upgrade from the French Press. You still get a full-body coffee without the sediment at the bottom of your cup. It's incredibly easy to make and easier to clean up. A breakdown of the method can be found below.
    We're doing a 1 to 15 ratio
    28g of coffee to 420g of water.
    -Fill your kettle and set it to a boil
    -Dose 28g of fresh whole bean coffee and grind at a medium-coarse setting
    (the grounds should appear similar to Kosher Sea Salt)
    -Fold your filter along the base and side
    -Pre-heat and rinse the filter using hot water from your kettle
    -Decant the rinse water into your carafe to pre-heat the carafe
    -Dose out your 28g of ground coffee into your Clever and tare your scale
    -Once the water reaches a boil, pull the kettle from the stove
    -About thirty seconds off the boil, start your timer and quickly add 420g of water
    -At the one-minute mark gently stir the top crust of grounds three times to ensure all grounds are saturated and contributing to the brew
    -Empty the pre-heat water before placing your dripper on the carafe
    -At two minutes and thirty seconds, place your Clever Dripper on top of your carafe and begin the drawdown
    -The drawdown should take anywhere between one to one and a half minutes
    *your total brew time should be around three and a half to four minutes.
    -Remove your filter and place it in your compost
    -Pour yourself a cup of some damn fine coffee
    *If you don't have a kettle, use a pot and measuring cup but adjust the recipe to 20g coffee to 300g water.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 78

  • @veggietables6974
    @veggietables6974 3 роки тому +35

    To answer your question:
    Nope. Doesn’t best Hoffman.

  • @Raziel_Winged
    @Raziel_Winged 3 роки тому

    Nice video man
    I really love that more and more people are using the Clever Dripper, I have been using it to make coffee for the past 4 months my friend told me about it
    + Like 👍

  • @mikemaddux6633
    @mikemaddux6633 2 роки тому +3

    I just tried your Clever method and I'm drinking one of the best cups ever. I've always used the four minute method, but now I'm switching to yours!!

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  2 роки тому

      That's great to hear, Mike! Cheers!

    • @jorhay1
      @jorhay1 Рік тому +1

      4 minute? Pretty sure that’s French Press.
      Clever is usually 2 to 3 at most.

  • @georgehugo561
    @georgehugo561 10 місяців тому

    Nice clear video! Good editing and some humour to boot.
    I'm working on a simplified immersion-funnel type brewer design to compete with the Dripper and the Hario switch at a lower price point but same quality.
    I've got a prototype as my current daily driver and I'm trying out all these recipes.

  • @BillyBobpeeps
    @BillyBobpeeps 3 роки тому +5

    ‘The Other Ultimate Pour Over Guide”, requested. I just love your Clever vid as it’s useful, concise, thorough, clearly presented and with notes. It can’t get better! When you’ve time, please share your thoughts about home coffee grinding machines.

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  3 роки тому +1

      That's a great suggestion! I have a pour-over video on the list that I will likely shoot in February. Thank you for the kind words! I appreciate it.
      I haven't really tested out too many home grinders outside of Baratza's line up, but I can definitely share my experience with their products.

    • @BillyBobpeeps
      @BillyBobpeeps 3 роки тому

      @@CoffeeandWater That’s good of view and I’ll look forward to seeing your views in due course. Could you post a few words about hand grinders for now if possible, please? It’s just that I’m thinking of getting a ‘1Z Presso JE-Plus’ hand grinder shortly - I need something and this appears to tick all the boxes.

  • @ad7my2
    @ad7my2 2 роки тому +1

    Love the quality of the video 👌

  • @petertr2000
    @petertr2000 3 роки тому +28

    Putting JH in the title is a little clickbaity though.

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  3 роки тому +13

      I completely agree, but it leans full tilt into the tongue in cheek title. Also, there are probably 200+ Clever Dripper tutorials on UA-cam, and the titles are all a different version of the same thing. UA-cam's algorithm is a weird beast, so it was worth a shot. 😇

    • @mannyj6517
      @mannyj6517 3 роки тому +1

      @@CoffeeandWater smart algorithm hacking

    • @tutelarius
      @tutelarius 3 роки тому

      @@CoffeeandWater Shows balls. I like it.

    • @SteveTeo99
      @SteveTeo99 2 роки тому +1

      And quite standoffish. Not a fan of ego and attitude with coffee videos. And this one’s got that. Not subscribing.

  • @tomcanfield705
    @tomcanfield705 3 роки тому +3

    I have switched to James Hoffman style, about 22 grams to 500 g water, ground medium or a bit finer, and added to the water in the Clever, with r min brew before drawdown. Love this simple brewer.

    • @error.418
      @error.418 2 роки тому +1

      22 and 500 can't be right... that's like a 1/22 to 1/23 ratio... this video is using 1/15, James Hoffman uses 1/16 - 1/17, I've seen people go to 1/18, but never in the 1/20s...

    • @JohnnyF71
      @JohnnyF71 2 роки тому

      I use 20 to 300 and that gives me a pretty balanced brew

  • @cheesychester9647
    @cheesychester9647 3 роки тому +1

    Subbed! I’m a PDX guy too, I rock the V60, Stagg XF, EKG and their Ode. Wanting to try espresso sometime soon also

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  3 роки тому

      Nice! Portland has a pretty solid coffee scene. Had a great americano at Upper Left today. I'm going to do a video about the EKG this month! I feel like all the videos around it is a first impression and I want to do a video from the perspective of owning it for the last three years. Got a lot of love but a little hate.

  • @user-wr5bw6kh3p
    @user-wr5bw6kh3p 11 місяців тому

    "Better than James Hoffmann?" I don't see any improvement over Hoffman's recipe. However, I still pressed like.

  • @didithelditia
    @didithelditia 3 роки тому

    Awesome Video... 👏👏

  • @AndyRoush
    @AndyRoush 3 роки тому

    Nice!!

  • @orrinbelcher6593
    @orrinbelcher6593 3 роки тому +1

    Nice video fun and informative thank you

  • @warrenthorpe
    @warrenthorpe 2 місяці тому

    With the Clever Cripper, I don't think it matters if the drawdown is fast... in fact, I think the faster the better (because it gives better control over brew time) as long as the filter is doing a good job filtering.

  • @rykmax
    @rykmax Рік тому

    Thank you for the video! How many clicks on a timemore c2 grinder? water temperature?

  • @THATSTREAL
    @THATSTREAL 3 роки тому +8

    Kudos on the title bait, defiantly caught me! haha Good video that followed as well! Nice stuff man!

  • @KevinHoaglandAZ
    @KevinHoaglandAZ 3 роки тому +3

    Tony,
    Great video and a lot easier to help folks "dial in" the clever over a lot of the 3rd Wave Coffee DingDongs out there. I've been Clever Dripperin for years and years and now recommending this vid to my friends that have been asking me about how I get the perfect cup with my Clever. Seems we use the same dose, grind, and water. Shame though that there are 3K views and such low subs. MORE VIDEOS!

  • @OneEclecticStyle
    @OneEclecticStyle 3 роки тому +2

    Thumbs up for b roll and funny title

  • @johnnythebeagle
    @johnnythebeagle 3 роки тому +1

    Nice! ☕️ ☕️ ☕️

  • @mannyj6517
    @mannyj6517 3 роки тому +2

    Neva betta than James Hoffman 😉 ...but a great video! Thanks for making ☕️

  • @christopherpaladin213
    @christopherpaladin213 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video, Tony! Does the Clever have similar body to aFrench press since it’s going through a filter?

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  4 роки тому +1

      It’s still a pretty full-body cup without the sediment. *sidenote: I think the Clever used in this video was purchased from Kaldi’s on DeMun in 2012 or 2013.

    • @stevenr5149
      @stevenr5149 2 роки тому +1

      No.

  • @EdytkaMgz
    @EdytkaMgz 3 роки тому +2

    better than JH - big shoes to fill in :D
    will try your recipe in the morning :)

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  3 роки тому

      Hope you enjoyed the recipe! I've been using it for years. It's a pretty straight forward brew with no fuss and easy clean up. Cheers!

  • @LatteDZ
    @LatteDZ 10 місяців тому

    How dare you?? But James Hoffmans said he has the best guide..

  • @brahamyoung1951
    @brahamyoung1951 3 місяці тому

    Hey Thanks
    Having coffee and watching
    From downunder

  • @marksmith7789
    @marksmith7789 Місяць тому +2

    As soon as some kid says they are better than someone I don't bother watching, people that big themselves up and slag off other people who are obviously very well educated on their subject are a waste of space!

  • @flavrt
    @flavrt 2 роки тому

    Pro tip: Avoid all the cold wasted coffee left in the carafe by calculating the water and coffee you actually want. Then drain it straight to the mug. You’ve got this!

    • @stevenr5149
      @stevenr5149 2 роки тому

      What is the difference between a "pro tip" and a tip? What if he wants to drink a bit more coffee than his cup can hold? Isn't that the actual purpose of a carafe?

  • @alexanderclaylavin
    @alexanderclaylavin 3 роки тому +4

    You keep 90s thumbnails and I'll keep clicking

  • @jakub4981
    @jakub4981 2 роки тому +1

    Hey! I'd love to try out your method, but could anybody tell me what default grind setting you use on the Commandante C40? Just by eyballing I'd guess it to be 20 - 22 :D.
    I am now using a 4-minute, water-first recipe, but my cups are somehow hollow and bitter at the same time (the aftertaste is bitter) and I can't figure out what the heck is going on. I have tried it with various different grind settings 20 - 25 on the Commandante but still can't get that balanced cup...maybe this will help :D.

    • @coffeedoodles7124
      @coffeedoodles7124 2 роки тому

      Hi! Just found this brewer yesterday and gonna try some today- I usually do iced with a lighter-end Ethiopian coffee. Aside from my recipe being iced, radically different, I’m gonna see about starting at around 25 myself on the C40. Or same as I’ve been doing for V60s.
      I can try and get back with you on how it goes if you want!

    • @jakub4981
      @jakub4981 2 роки тому +1

      @@coffeedoodles7124 Hey! Forgot about my comment in the first place. Right now I have found that the 18 - 21 range works better for me. I was pissed off - I couldn't get a good coffe (I even stopped drinking it for while), but then went finder on my grinder and lower on my temperature (a little bit, probably 92 - 93 instead of 95 - 98) and the coffees are really good. But I am curious as to how your coffee will taste. I wish you the best brews possible! :D

    • @coffeedoodles7124
      @coffeedoodles7124 2 роки тому

      @@jakub4981 thank you! And that’s awesome! The one I did yesterday turned out really good, I might try finer but I was satisfied :)

  • @readyready-u8j
    @readyready-u8j Рік тому

    Thoughts on grind size for Baratza Encore and this method?

  • @AndyVanBass
    @AndyVanBass 2 роки тому +1

    Your title mentions Hoffman, but you don’t mention his key difference - adding water THEN adding grounds.
    Thoughts on this?

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  2 роки тому +2

      One of the big reasons I don't mention the way Hoffmann brews a clever is because I published the video 4-6 months before Hoffmann released his Clever video. The title is just meant to be silly. I've used this recipe for about a decade and consider it an approachable way to brew. I stand by the recipe and the production value of the video. Working for a global brand, I definitely recognize there are different strokes for different folks, so there's room for both recipes to exist. 😃

    • @AndyVanBass
      @AndyVanBass 2 роки тому

      @@CoffeeandWater - thanks for replying! Makes sense, I assumed it was a response to Hoffman's Clever guide.
      I used a Clever from 2014-16. Just got one again & experimenting again. 🤓

    • @charlienairn783
      @charlienairn783 10 місяців тому +3

      I do find Hoffman’s water-before-coffee route gives a notably better result. Out of interest I’ve tried both ways again over the last few days and my thumb is again firmly up for Hoffman.

  • @SteveTeo99
    @SteveTeo99 2 роки тому

    When you decant the first hot water into the carafe, I hope you’re not releasing the water you rinsed the paper filter with, since that has the paper taste residue that will now be in your coffee.

    • @ethanjennings6442
      @ethanjennings6442 2 роки тому

      I think he uses it to warm then carafe then pours it down the drain before releasing the coffee

  • @PharmDNader
    @PharmDNader Рік тому

    4:04 i was low on money and bought cheap coffee and taste awful but when i change the gridding it taste little better 🤷‍♂️

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  Рік тому +1

      If you have something a little more developed it's also worth trying a bigger ratio like 1 to 17 or 1 to 18. Only adjust one variable at a time. If you're adjusting dose and grind at the same time it can be hard to identify what's working and what is not. Rule of thumb: adjust dose/ratio for amount of flavor, adjust grind for type of flavor.

  • @stevenr5149
    @stevenr5149 2 роки тому +2

    Nice video. My french press friends would disagree that this is any paper filter method is an "upgrade" to french press. It is a different method that is supposed to create a categorically different cup of coffee. I am cringing seeing all that ground coffee on top not being extracted for 60 seconds. When I see "Better than James Hoffman" and there is no 3 cup blind taste test... put your money where your mouth is ;) nice video.

  • @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007
    @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007 Рік тому

    Better than which JH method for clever /V60 switch?I have basically ditched all coffee paraphernalia, for the clever a nice electric kettle and an overpriced Ember mug plus a cheap rechargeable burr travel grinder. Rarely do I weigh and measure as I like the simple dimple. Boil good water. rinse filter (preheat vessel) grind and add fresh grinds. Add water. steep 3 minutesish set on mug drip wait to coll to set temp on fancy heated mug. enjoy worm coffee for quite some time. Your method is similar to one of the ways I pour.....but I'll try the suave bottom of the spoon stir. Have never been able to do a safe effective swirl of the brewer. Have you send the water 1st then grinds on top method James credits another geek......I believe he does it in the v60 switch. I MUCH PREFER THE CLEVER. Dand my coffee is good rn! Try my clever in the microwave with the brew to keep the steep at boiling! (the opposite of simple . Start as in your video then put the clever plus brew in microwave give it 10 plus seconds, "rest" a minute. 10 more minute more 10 last secs, the decant. The idea being to keep the brew at 212 the whole brew. If you nuke too long you will have a mess on your hands. JH convinced me using boiling H2O is the way to go at least for light to med roasts. CHEAP GOOD ENOUGH RECHARGEABLE BURR GRINDER: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B92VVKXT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 slow grinds enough for a couple od gups, hell you fancy pants can tare it out on a scale...I just near fill it. I'd say 6 grinds fully loaded per charge. Again SLOW so grind 1st step b4 boil id ancy for joe. Ditch all blade grinders for this one-hitter esp when on the road. POUR ON TOP METHOD: ua-cam.com/video/RpOdennxP24/v-deo.html

    • @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007
      @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/LcBh08ovf4Q/v-deo.html good review of some methods including water 1st.

  • @rbmanb
    @rbmanb 3 роки тому

    Try using a cloth filter instead, would give you even more of the french press experience, as more oils would drip to your cup. Also much more environmental. Maintain the cloth right and it would taste even more neutral than either a papery taste from a non bleached, or chlorine from a bleached one.

  • @impaque
    @impaque 2 роки тому

    What a bold claim that it's "better", when with the grounds first you're risking clogging the filter with the fines, in other words unnecessarily introducing a variable with no apparent benefit?

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  2 роки тому

      The title of this video is in the form of a question and not a statement.

  • @tommywagner2299
    @tommywagner2299 3 роки тому

    Lose the loud intro music and maybe a few more of is will finish watching the video!

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the feedback, Tommy! They say your first videos are your worst videos. Can only go up from here. Cheers!

  • @amialivaziri
    @amialivaziri 3 роки тому

    so you have a 3.5k $ grinder but you use tap water!... nice

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  3 роки тому +5

      The advantages of living in an area with good water.

    • @PlayerWellKnown
      @PlayerWellKnown 3 роки тому

      To be fair, I use tap water too. Because where I am, the water is perfectly fine for using in drinks.

  • @bobjarrard
    @bobjarrard 3 роки тому

    Nope! Nope!! No one beats James Hoffmann. Rest on your own laurels and skip CLICK BAIT!!! I will cruise your site, good luck. bob jarrard
    Bob

    • @CoffeeandWater
      @CoffeeandWater  3 роки тому +2

      To be fair, Bob, it's not even Hoffmann's recipe. The recipe James posted is from Workshop coffee. I'm a fan as well so no need to get too worked up over it.