I've read a number of books about the scuttlers of and areas in and around Angel Meadow. Also watched the videos deft monkey made, hard to take in, my ancesters were born in Salford and Mancheter areas. So definitely knew of the scuttlers and Angel Meadow, probably stayed well away from the area. Talking about bare knuckle fighting my Dad told me one of his Great Grandads was a bare knuckle fighter, to earn extra money. Sad and tragic time for thousands, in Angel Meadow, and everywhere in England around this time, hand to mouth, and the workhouse waiting just around the corner. Thanks Matt for this respectful walk through history. May the souls who are burried in Angel Meadow rest in peace 🎉
I'm blown away by this tragic story! I've been binge watching your videos this afternoon and I've subscribed. You tell these stories so well and are relatable. That entire area "Angel Meadows" should be blessed and prayed over. I'm sure people feel those souls who are stuck there. I'm Apache(Native American)and my people, we have strong taboos against walking, much less eating over graves or any area where bones have been dug up!
Thanks for subscribing, and I hope you're enjoying the videos 😊. There was an incredible air of sadness whilst walking round. I got quite emotional at one point. Others have said they've felt that too. I'm glad they never rebuilt houses on it, that's for sure. All the best.
I was born one mile from Angel Meadow in 1951 I was in Chattanooga last year and while I was there I saw the 'Steps of Tears' where Andrew Jackson gathered the Cherokees for the long death march on the trail of tears to Oklahoma. John Ross was a government appointed idiot
Yes, I went to Manchester University. The first in my family. The park where the students lolled on a sunny day was actually an old graveyard , my lecturer told me all about it. I was conflicted but looked at it with respect, but also thought honour the good people here and & appreciate what you have and use it well .
My late wife lived in Ancoats and attended Sunday school at Charter street mission in the early 50s. At Christmas they used to dish up meals for the local kids and hand out small presents.
All our history is important and we should not forget the struggles and the darkness, lest we forget about our own humanity. Thank you for making this video - very interesting and enlightening. Bless the poor souls buried there and all those who lived in Angel Meadow and endured such a hard life.
I've watched a few videos of the Angel Meadow area of Manchester and it must have been an awful place in the 18th and 19th century. This place reminds me very much of the Cross Bones burial ground in Southwark, London. I consider myself very lucky to have moved away from a dead Midlands industrial town to a 17th century cottage in rural Shropshire. I visit cities when I have to but struggle with the urban life. Great film, thank you for your work.
A cottage in Shropshire certainly sounds much better. It's hard to imagine what the people of Angel Meadow were going through....but their echoes ate definitely still felt there today. Thanks for watching
I have watched all of your videos Matt and I have to say this one is right up there as one of the best! Factually spot on and you definitely told the story well of all the poor people who lived and died there. You definitely caught the atmosphere of the place to in this one and through videos like this their memory can live on! Amazing stuff Matt! You have nailed it! Oh and thanks for the shout out 😉 😁👏🏼
Wow! Thank you so much....that means so much to me to read that. 🙂. I'm glad you enjoyed it (if that's the right word). You and your pop have constantly supported my channel and I truly appreciate it. Glad you sent this story my way....but, boy, was it tough to film! Take care, and thanks again.
@ not a problem mate. We love your videos and we know you’re a genuine person and that transpires through to your videos. Haha yeah it’s pretty hard to film and the park goes busy in waves. One minute there’s a lot of people the next it’s empty. Some dodgy streets around there too but I love that part of Manchester. It’s still very authentic in many ways. You just have to scratch the surface and look a little deeper to find it 🙌🏼
Brilliant video. I heard about Angel Meadow from watching Daft Monkeys video. I don't know why, but it's since held a fascination for me. I would like to go there and see it in person, but I think it would make me feel sad.
Thanks for watching. Yeah, there's something about being there....the atmosphere just feels different. It got quite overwhelming at one point....just an air of sadness. Glad you watch DM....he's great 👍 Let me know if you ever visit it.
Excellent video Matt.. so sad the history around there I myself feel the sorrow every time I walk in Angel meadow..your story was very touching thanks for showing us around there ✌️
I was passing through here the other day on my way to a nearby bar. I had no idea about the history at all and after learning of it's past from your video it did strike me at the time as a peculiar place and there is certainly something 'in the air' there that at the time I couldn't put my finger on.
I'm local ish to Manchester and did not know of this place. They should teach local history in schools it would be shameful if all this was lost, lessons to be learned
Your video came on my feed randomly but glad it did! Reminded me very much of an area local to me in Nottingham called Narrow Marsh. I think it was classed as Europes worst slum area in the Victorian period but all got cleared years ago. Great to see a channel with a love of their local history like myself! Keep up the great work! 👍🏻
Thank you so much for the history, Manchester is my home town and the history is fascinating.. You are right, Angel Meadow has a real atmosphere. Just found you guys and subscribed. Following Daft Monkey also.. Happy New Year to you all.
God. Hope all the poor souls rest in pea😢.Please people keep this place nice and green. Put some lovely colour full trees in. In memory of all the people, who had to live there. xxRita Australia 🌏 ❤❤❤
In the ground floor of The Charter St Ragged School, there is a hall suitable and probably used for a large school room, but might have doubled as a sports hall or exercise room. Above this was an identiaclly sized room, but with a platform and was probably an assembly hall.
Came on a school trip with son 20 years ago. It's changed since then. We saw the gallstones. They were the playground for the chartered school children who begged to go to the school. Our children went through a day in the life of.... We were told the 40,000 were buried under these flags. The last residents were still living in Angel Meadows in the 1960s.
Many thanks for that grimly atmospheric account. Peter Ackroyd remarks how some areas remain impoverished areas even over centuries. I wonder if Friedrich Engels mentions it in his Conditions of the Working Class?
Thanks for that. Not sure if that would be an Engels quotation as obviously the area he came to had been quite different a few decades before. However, seeing people sleeping in tents on the park did make me think, in some ways, not everything has changed....
Well, what a great account this is, part of the history of England and not such a good part by all accounts. Thanks for this, very well done as seems your video's are and research is very good. RIP to those souls under this site.
What an evocative and informative video - thank you! I'm an American who spent a lot of time in the North of England as a child; I do miss it. Subscribed!
Sensational documentary Matt, great vid & your voice is tailor made for your work! I used to drop & collect & old girlfriend at the Charter street mission 25yrs ago at a drama studio there & never been in Angel Gardens. I’m buying Angel Meadow by Dean Kirby after Daft Monkey recommendation on his vlog. Well done pal, great work! 👍
I was born not too far away in Miles Platting, my Dad and his siblings were born closer still on Oldham Road in Collyhurst. I along with my Ex Wife owned a cafe at the top of Gould St / Rochdale Road but the landlord who owned a ladies wholesalers next door and the entire building sold up due to the ongoing developments, this was just as the Tobacco Factory apartments were nearly finished, man we made some money when they were being built. Then, only in the very late 90s ( we were married in 1999 and owned the cafe then. ) Angel Meadow wasn’t quite as nice looking as it is now, if you look closely at the right end going down the road as though coming from Rochdale Road there are a few remains of the windows from one of the buildings which was there many years ago, possibly but I would have to go back and watch Martin Zero’s video to confirm, part of the Ragged School. Behind what is now, has been for some time, The Angel Pub / Gastro Pub there was a Fruit and Veg Wholesalers where my Dad’s Mother and at some time or another nearly all her Children, most definitely my Dad, worked there, Thelwells, spelling may be slightly off as it was a while back as I’m 52 now. Great video, I wish more people either born in Manchester or now call it home, would learn some of its vast history, it was the centre of the Industrial Revolution after all.
The whole of St michaels flags were covered with flat gravestones. There were goal posts on them. Also we played five a side in the sharp street ragged school. I saw the regeneration in the area. Redbank is on the other side of the river Irk, an area where the Jewish diaspora had settled escaping from the pogroms abroad.
I must confess....Dani got me one for Christmas, and a 'selfie stick'. Both stayed in the car yesterday 😅. I'll start with it in the New year. Thanks for watching
@matparks08 I do have a suggestion for a future video you if you haven't already done it Scammondon mill close to Scammondon reservoir very interesting history and plenty to walk around 👍
Thank you. The day you video'ed it looked grey n damo/depressing. My grandparents were from Irelan, England n Scotland. So find your channel very interesting. Enjoying the UA-cams. Thank you fron New Zealand 🤗
I’m a manc , and knew all about the history of this place , my mum was born in ancoats , her dad wrked on the trains , they were cleared out and moved to new council houses , and the street she grew up on is now inta famous used in many filming and adverts , and cost a fortune. If people knew the dark and sad history 😢crumsall hospital (nmgh) used to be the work house .
I have a connection to Angel Meadow as my great-great-great grandfather Henry lived there and was a shoemaker. My great-great grandfather George was born there too. Henry died in his early 30s. He may have been born in Dublin to Scottish parents but of that I’m not certain. I found your video very interesting.
Great video , well done . I,m thinkin all those oppressive buildings made from glass will be conflicting with the poor souls energy which is underneath . Thats the spiritual message i,m feelin from this . 💛
The burial ground made me think of the tiny island just off Port Arthur, Tasmania. There are about a dozen marked graves but the actual island was built up by the hundreds of burials.
@ my maternal g grandparents migrated to Liverpool from Ireland and ended up in the infamously overcrowded and filthy “courts”. After her husband died my g grandmother died of cholera and her youngest child , my grandmother ended up in the workhouse. Unimaginable wealth living in proximity of poverty and squalor. A bit like today
Great video thanks. Just one critique. You showed a large plaque fo 1 second. Needed 15/20 to read it. If i freeze the frame my screen darkens, to save battery.
We were regulars in that park, walking our now 15 year old dog. Loved taking him but not been back for a good few months, it’s become a bit darker now with the new buildings. In just 15 years it’s changed so much, let alone since my childhood in the 90s. The older heads must be mind blown to see the way it is now, it’s like the city has grown around the park and the new towers make it feel so enclosed now. it seemed like beyond the edge of the city centre when I was a kid and walking up redbank was a risk and some of the sights - Jesus. My gran and great grandma both went to the ragged school there - probably when the church still stood.
Similar to the areas in the black country. I live on the grounds of the old chain yards... woman working all day and night with babies swinging on a hammock through the smoke an filth! Some of the old houses still remain here, and some nights you can hear the sound of the whistles and the machines! Like echoes in the wind! Check out cradley heath, west midlands! God bless
Engels owned a factory in Manchester. Conditions were so bad that people living near a river found their homes flooded every day.. Because of recent medical inventions the infant mortality rate had fallen so agricultural England must have been even worse.
Im from Manchester. & ive never heard of angel meadow 🤔 What a crying shame for these poor ppl who endured these terrible Living coditions. Poverty at its very worse. You know some ppl say we fall on hard times in this day & age, but compared to how these poor ppl Lived back in the day it is nothing really Lets have it right. Im going to do some research on angel meadow. For these poor Souls R I P SO Sorry Godbless Amen ⚘ 🙏 ⚘
Looks like a dreadful place, all industry and character swept away to be replaced by numb souless glass towers, with a scruff of tokenistic grass in the middle. Must be horrible living and working in those, why do you never see anyone stood staring out of the window in a high rise? Because by looking out on the world from up there just exaggerates your sense of isolation, displacement and loneliness.
Yeah, I must be honest i feel the same, and the building of these towers never stops there either. Give me the old buildings anyway. Thanks for watching
@@matparks08 Fascinating detail. I used to like going to the Portico Library. Its amazing how many people have no idea it's there. A little oasis. To sit and think. Much appreciated too.
with 28 years of burials there,they would have been on top of each other,the 28 year old burials,would have decayed and the graves collapsed.Which means,there is still bodies,but just bones,still lying in the ground there.there is just no way they could have removed all of the remains.people using the space now are walking on dead people.
It is all about changing times, changing values. When it is considered about the issues of ''reparation '' for our sins connected to the slave trade. I feel there is a tendency to think of todays values and how it was for the slaves. Don't get me wrong, slave trading was and is wrong and proud to think that is was the UK who fought on my fronts to bring it to an end. So back to reparation for our sins against others. One hundred - two hundred years ago things, as demonstrated here were different and hard. So when we think of reparations to other countries for the past - just remember OUR PAST wasn't that great for so many either.
I get what you mean, I think....but even 200 years ago, that place was described as 'hell on Earth'. It wasn't the norm across the UK at the time, it was the lowest ....though, yes, I imagine generally life was much harder (and shorter). Thanks for watching
@@matparks08 Sadly, the workhouse and poverty was the same in major cities. Considering the population was no where near what it is now, high proportion were underfed, high death rates of the young were accepted as normal. I suppose, and I'm no historian the real change in society happened after during and after the first World War, don't forget about the only step out of poverty was to go into service as maids etc. I was born in 1948, my grandmother (fathers side) spent time in the workhouse, had been widowed and it was quite the usual practice due to the poor laws & parish handouts to marry off a widow to a widower so he could work and she could look after the families \ thus no cost to the parish.
I've read a number of books about the scuttlers of and areas in and around Angel Meadow. Also watched the videos deft monkey made, hard to take in, my ancesters were born in Salford and Mancheter areas. So definitely knew of the scuttlers and Angel Meadow, probably stayed well away from the area. Talking about bare knuckle fighting my Dad told me one of his Great Grandads was a bare knuckle fighter, to earn extra money. Sad and tragic time for thousands, in Angel Meadow, and everywhere in England around this time, hand to mouth, and the workhouse waiting just around the corner. Thanks Matt for this respectful walk through history. May the souls who are burried in Angel Meadow rest in peace 🎉
Yeah, not exactly the "good old days" were they 😔. Thanks for watching
I'm blown away by this tragic story! I've been binge watching your videos this afternoon and I've subscribed. You tell these stories so well and are relatable. That entire area "Angel Meadows" should be blessed and prayed over. I'm sure people feel those souls who are stuck there. I'm Apache(Native American)and my people, we have strong taboos against walking, much less eating over graves or any area where bones have been dug up!
Thanks for subscribing, and I hope you're enjoying the videos 😊. There was an incredible air of sadness whilst walking round. I got quite emotional at one point. Others have said they've felt that too. I'm glad they never rebuilt houses on it, that's for sure. All the best.
I was born one mile from Angel Meadow in 1951
I was in Chattanooga last year and while I was there I saw the 'Steps of Tears'
where Andrew Jackson gathered the Cherokees for the long death march on the trail of tears to Oklahoma. John Ross was a government appointed idiot
Yes, I went to Manchester University. The first in my family. The park where the students lolled on a sunny day was actually an old graveyard , my lecturer told me all about it. I was conflicted but looked at it with respect, but also thought honour the good people here and & appreciate what you have and use it well .
My late wife lived in Ancoats and attended Sunday school at Charter street mission in the early 50s. At Christmas they used to dish up meals for the local kids and hand out small presents.
Thanks for sharing your story, and thanks for watching. Best wishes
All our history is important and we should not forget the struggles and the darkness, lest we forget about our own humanity. Thank you for making this video - very interesting and enlightening. Bless the poor souls buried there and all those who lived in Angel Meadow and endured such a hard life.
Thanks so much for the comment and for watching 🙂
I've watched a few videos of the Angel Meadow area of Manchester and it must have been an awful place in the 18th and 19th century. This place reminds me very much of the Cross Bones burial ground in Southwark, London.
I consider myself very lucky to have moved away from a dead Midlands industrial town to a 17th century cottage in rural Shropshire. I visit cities when I have to but struggle with the urban life.
Great film, thank you for your work.
A cottage in Shropshire certainly sounds much better. It's hard to imagine what the people of Angel Meadow were going through....but their echoes ate definitely still felt there today. Thanks for watching
I live in Manchester, never knew much of its History, how very sad. And awful to now know how life must have been for those folks
Thanks for watching 🙂
Those poor people who had travelled from Ireland to escape hunger and poverty, only to find even worse conditions here 💔
Yeah, a tragic story and their spirits still echo across the grounds today. It's hard to explain, but hopefully that makes sense. Thanks for watching
They weren't only Irish, the English lived there as well. There is a 'Little Ireland' in Manchester, but it is off Oxford road
I have watched all of your videos Matt and I have to say this one is right up there as one of the best!
Factually spot on and you definitely told the story well of all the poor people who lived and died there. You definitely caught the atmosphere of the place to in this one and through videos like this their memory can live on! Amazing stuff Matt! You have nailed it! Oh and thanks for the shout out 😉 😁👏🏼
Wow! Thank you so much....that means so much to me to read that. 🙂. I'm glad you enjoyed it (if that's the right word). You and your pop have constantly supported my channel and I truly appreciate it. Glad you sent this story my way....but, boy, was it tough to film! Take care, and thanks again.
@ not a problem mate. We love your videos and we know you’re a genuine person and that transpires through to your videos. Haha yeah it’s pretty hard to film and the park goes busy in waves. One minute there’s a lot of people the next it’s empty. Some dodgy streets around there too but I love that part of Manchester. It’s still very authentic in many ways. You just have to scratch the surface and look a little deeper to find it 🙌🏼
Thank you 😊
Great video Matt of a really dark time in history. It's hard to imagine the suffering that went on there, but you covered it well. Thanks again 👍
Thanks s lot, glad you enjoyed the video 😊
Brilliant video. I heard about Angel Meadow from watching Daft Monkeys video.
I don't know why, but it's since held a fascination for me. I would like to go there and see it in person, but I think it would make me feel sad.
Thanks for watching. Yeah, there's something about being there....the atmosphere just feels different. It got quite overwhelming at one point....just an air of sadness. Glad you watch DM....he's great 👍 Let me know if you ever visit it.
Excellent video Matt.. so sad the history around there I myself feel the sorrow every time I walk in Angel meadow..your story was very touching thanks for showing us around there ✌️
Thanks Steve. It's such a strange feeling when you're there. I'm sure it's just the sadness attached to the place. Thanks for watching
Stumbled upon this excellent channel, great work 👍
Welcome 🙂. Thank you so much
Thanks for a moving and sad part of Manchesters history
No problem, thanks so much for watching
So tragic but fascinating. Thank you.
Thanks for watching 🙂
I was passing through here the other day on my way to a nearby bar. I had no idea about the history at all and after learning of it's past from your video it did strike me at the time as a peculiar place and there is certainly something 'in the air' there that at the time I couldn't put my finger on.
@@MoonOnTheTides thanks for watching. Yeah, it's an indescribable air of 'something' isn't it....it's very odd.
You are brilliant you do it with such feeling great to watch
@JulieRandall-g8o thank you 😊
Another brilliant video, thanks. So hard to imagine all those people crammed into such a small area
Thanks for that. It really is very hard to picture exactly how it must have been.
Noticed a homeless tent in the background near the ragged school . Still poverty in Manchester . Just not as bad as it was
Yeah. There was.....also made me think that not everything changes. 😔
I'm local ish to Manchester and did not know of this place. They should teach local history in schools it would be shameful if all this was lost, lessons to be learned
Thanks for watching. 🙂
You are right. Instead everyone is taught the same standard curriculum.
First time on your channel
Enjoyed it
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@howardg7162 Hi. Glad you found us! Thanks for watching 🙂
Your video came on my feed randomly but glad it did! Reminded me very much of an area local to me in Nottingham called Narrow Marsh. I think it was classed as Europes worst slum area in the Victorian period but all got cleared years ago. Great to see a channel with a love of their local history like myself! Keep up the great work! 👍🏻
Thanks very much for watching and the info. I'll look that one up 🙂
Thank you so much for the history, Manchester is my home town and the history is fascinating.. You are right, Angel Meadow has a real atmosphere. Just found you guys and subscribed. Following Daft Monkey also.. Happy New Year to you all.
Nice one....Daft Monkey is ace! Thanks for watching 🙂
God. Hope all the poor souls rest in pea😢.Please people keep this place nice and green. Put some lovely colour full trees in. In memory of all the people, who had to live there. xxRita Australia 🌏 ❤❤❤
It does look beautiful in summer and autumn, thankfully, when the trees are in full bloom. Best wishes and thanks for watching
In the ground floor of The Charter St Ragged School, there is a hall suitable and probably used for a large school room, but might have doubled as a sports hall or exercise room.
Above this was an identiaclly sized room, but with a platform and was probably an assembly hall.
Thanks for the info, and for watching
My family were Irish immigrants and worked at wallworks foundry.
Thanks for your info, and for watching
Came on a school trip with son 20 years ago. It's changed since then. We saw the gallstones. They were the playground for the chartered school children who begged to go to the school. Our children went through a day in the life of.... We were told the 40,000 were buried under these flags. The last residents were still living in Angel Meadows in the 1960s.
Thanks for your story 🙂. Yeah, I think it was demolished in the 60s? I'm glad it's a story told on schools. Thanks for watching
It does give off the same feelings of eeriness of being at a cemetery. It has the sadness and quiet of souls resting, hopefully, in peace.
Yeah, it certainly does. Thanks for watching
@@matparks08 Thank you for replying to my comment, not many hosts do that for their subscribers
@susanbissell6319 I always try to. All the best 🙂
Happy New Year!🎉@@matparks08
Many thanks for that grimly atmospheric account. Peter Ackroyd remarks how some areas remain impoverished areas even over centuries. I wonder if Friedrich Engels mentions it in his Conditions of the Working Class?
Thanks for that. Not sure if that would be an Engels quotation as obviously the area he came to had been quite different a few decades before. However, seeing people sleeping in tents on the park did make me think, in some ways, not everything has changed....
So sad hearing the story of how these families survived and babies not living. Such a tragedy.
Yeah, it's a place that still feels 'sad' even today.
Well, what a great account this is, part of the history of England and not such a good part by all accounts.
Thanks for this, very well done as seems your video's are and research is very good. RIP to those souls under this site.
Thank you so much, that's much appreciated. 🙂
What an evocative and informative video - thank you! I'm an American who spent a lot of time in the North of England as a child; I do miss it. Subscribed!
Thanks for watching and subscribing. I very much appreciated reading your comment 😊
Thanks for this brilliant video
Thanks so much 😊
New sub very interesting video
Welcome! Hope you find plenty of videos here to enjoy 🙂
Masterfully done, thank you.
Thanks so much 🙂
Sensational documentary Matt, great vid & your voice is tailor made for your work! I used to drop & collect & old girlfriend at the Charter street mission 25yrs ago at a drama studio there & never been in Angel Gardens. I’m buying Angel Meadow by Dean Kirby after Daft Monkey recommendation on his vlog. Well done pal, great work! 👍
@paulfoy6098 thank you so much. That's much appreciated 🙂
I was born not too far away in Miles Platting, my Dad and his siblings were born closer still on Oldham Road in Collyhurst. I along with my Ex Wife owned a cafe at the top of Gould St / Rochdale Road but the landlord who owned a ladies wholesalers next door and the entire building sold up due to the ongoing developments, this was just as the Tobacco Factory apartments were nearly finished, man we made some money when they were being built. Then, only in the very late 90s ( we were married in 1999 and owned the cafe then. ) Angel Meadow wasn’t quite as nice looking as it is now, if you look closely at the right end going down the road as though coming from Rochdale Road there are a few remains of the windows from one of the buildings which was there many years ago, possibly but I would have to go back and watch Martin Zero’s video to confirm, part of the Ragged School.
Behind what is now, has been for some time, The Angel Pub / Gastro Pub there was a Fruit and Veg Wholesalers where my Dad’s Mother and at some time or another nearly all her Children, most definitely my Dad, worked there, Thelwells, spelling may be slightly off as it was a while back as I’m 52 now.
Great video, I wish more people either born in Manchester or now call it home, would learn some of its vast history, it was the centre of the Industrial Revolution after all.
Thanks for sharing the info with us. Best wishes 🙂
Ive never heard of this. Thank you for this!
No problem. Thanks for watching 😊
Just stumbled across your channel. You have a lovely voice for narrating...your videos are very well done. Subscribed
Thank you so much. Welcome to the channel 😊
The whole of St michaels flags were covered with flat gravestones. There were goal posts on them. Also we played five a side in the sharp street ragged school. I saw the regeneration in the area. Redbank is on the other side of the river Irk, an area where the Jewish diaspora had settled escaping from the pogroms abroad.
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated 😊
Hi Matt great video 1 suggestion is to invest in a clip mic for outside work it prevents the unwanted sounds of traffic and similar noises.
I must confess....Dani got me one for Christmas, and a 'selfie stick'. Both stayed in the car yesterday 😅. I'll start with it in the New year. Thanks for watching
@matparks08 I do have a suggestion for a future video you if you haven't already done it Scammondon mill close to Scammondon reservoir very interesting history and plenty to walk around 👍
That's a good shout....I'll put it on the list 👌
Great presentation...❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you 😊
Really enjoyed this. Love Manchester history.Subscribed, many thanks.
Awesome, thank you so much 🙂
Good work fella.
Thanks so much 🙂
Well done so interesting thank you ❤
Thanks for watching 🙂
Thank you. The day you video'ed it looked grey n damo/depressing. My grandparents were from Irelan, England n Scotland. So find your channel very interesting. Enjoying the UA-cams. Thank you fron New Zealand 🤗
Yes, it was a fairly grey day....thanks for watching, much appreciated 🙂
I’m a manc , and knew all about the history of this place , my mum was born in ancoats , her dad wrked on the trains , they were cleared out and moved to new council houses , and the street she grew up on is now inta famous used in many filming and adverts , and cost a fortune. If people knew the dark and sad history 😢crumsall hospital (nmgh) used to be the work house .
Thanks for watching and for sharing your story.
I have a connection to Angel Meadow as my great-great-great grandfather Henry lived there and was a shoemaker. My great-great grandfather George was born there too. Henry died in his early 30s. He may have been born in Dublin to Scottish parents but of that I’m not certain. I found your video very interesting.
Thanks for your info, very interesting 🙂. All the best 👍
Great video , well done . I,m thinkin all those oppressive buildings made from glass will be conflicting with the poor souls energy which is underneath . Thats the spiritual message i,m feelin from this . 💛
Yes, that's a good point 🤔. Thanks for watching
The burial ground made me think of the tiny island just off Port Arthur, Tasmania. There are about a dozen marked graves but the actual island was built up by the hundreds of burials.
Interesting, thanks for that 🙂
I imagine some of those poor folk, in every sense of the word, didnt even have a coffin. Just a shroud. R i P all.
There's some comments that they were literally separated by just a piece of wood in these mass graves. Awful 😖
Thanks for that
Thanks for watching 😊
I grew up in Manchester and had no idea about this.
Thanks for watching 🙂
Such a sad story. Thank you for covering it. Is there no memorial or account on-site? A sad place surrounded by ugly modern buildings.
There are some info boards across the site, you might just spot them in the background across the video. Thanks for watching.
@ my maternal g grandparents migrated to Liverpool from Ireland and ended up in the infamously overcrowded and filthy “courts”. After her husband died my g grandmother died of cholera and her youngest child , my grandmother ended up in the workhouse. Unimaginable wealth living in proximity of poverty and squalor. A bit like today
@patw4631 thanks for sharing your story with us
A Building is a Place to live how it looks is irrelevant
Great video thanks. Just one critique. You showed a large plaque fo 1 second. Needed 15/20 to read it. If i freeze the frame my screen darkens, to save battery.
@@williebobs3830 hi. Thanks for watching. Sorry about that, I'll think about that for future films 😊
History always reaping!
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We were regulars in that park, walking our now 15 year old dog. Loved taking him but not been back for a good few months, it’s become a bit darker now with the new buildings.
In just 15 years it’s changed so much, let alone since my childhood in the 90s.
The older heads must be mind blown to see the way it is now, it’s like the city has grown around the park and the new towers make it feel so enclosed now.
it seemed like beyond the edge of the city centre when I was a kid and walking up redbank was a risk and some of the sights - Jesus.
My gran and great grandma both went to the ragged school there - probably when the church still stood.
@@mattwinstanley2544 thanks for watching and for sharing. Yeah, it's an area that's certainly seen a lot of change and has a lot of stories.
@ you are welcome - it was an enjoyable video. I’ve subbed and look forward to your back catalogue and future videos.
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The history of the English should not be forgotten, most people were not 'priveledged'
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Very interesting.
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Similar to the areas in the black country. I live on the grounds of the old chain yards... woman working all day and night with babies swinging on a hammock through the smoke an filth! Some of the old houses still remain here, and some nights you can hear the sound of the whistles and the machines! Like echoes in the wind!
Check out cradley heath, west midlands!
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Sounds like an interesting place, I'll look in to it. Thanks for watching 🙂
Just show you never know what you're walking over. Sad times indeed 😢
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I was born a mile from Angel Meadow in 1951
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Engels owned a factory in Manchester. Conditions were so bad that people living near a river found their homes flooded every day.. Because of recent medical inventions the infant mortality rate had fallen so agricultural England must have been even worse.
@interested-q4d thanks for the info, and for watching
Omg may they rest in peace. How heartbreaking
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Im from Manchester. & ive never heard of angel meadow 🤔 What a crying shame for these poor ppl who endured these terrible Living coditions. Poverty at its very worse.
You know some ppl say we fall on hard times in this day & age, but compared to how these poor ppl Lived back in the day it is nothing really Lets have it right. Im going to do some research on angel meadow. For these poor Souls
R I P SO Sorry Godbless
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Glad to have brought the story to you, although it's a bleak one! Thanks for watching
Looks like a dreadful place, all industry and character swept away to be replaced by numb souless glass towers, with a scruff of tokenistic grass in the middle.
Must be horrible living and working in those, why do you never see anyone stood staring out of the window in a high rise?
Because by looking out on the world from up there just exaggerates your sense of isolation, displacement and loneliness.
Yeah, I must be honest i feel the same, and the building of these towers never stops there either. Give me the old buildings anyway. Thanks for watching
I always feel as a Mancunian , I'm surrounded by ghosts. And so many hidden treasures to learn lessons from. 👋
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@@matparks08 Fascinating detail. I used to like going to the Portico Library. Its amazing how many people have no idea it's there. A little oasis. To sit and think. Much appreciated too.
Sounds like the 5 points in NYC. How heartbreaking
Not heard of that. I'll look it up. Thanks for watching
with 28 years of burials there,they would have been on top of each other,the 28 year old burials,would have decayed and the graves collapsed.Which means,there is still bodies,but just bones,still lying in the ground there.there is just no way they could have removed all of the remains.people using the space now are walking on dead people.
Yeah, I certainly think it's possible....🤔
My mam was raised here.
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Saint Michael's church Angel Meadow was almost identicle to Saint Michael and all Saints in Ashton under Lyne
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I was brought up at red bank and went to saint chads school .
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It is all about changing times, changing values. When it is considered about the issues of ''reparation '' for our sins connected to the slave trade. I feel there is a tendency to think of todays values and how it was for the slaves. Don't get me wrong, slave trading was and is wrong and proud to think that is was the UK who fought on my fronts to bring it to an end. So back to reparation for our sins against others. One hundred - two hundred years ago things, as demonstrated here were different and hard. So when we think of reparations to other countries for the past - just remember OUR PAST wasn't that great for so many either.
I get what you mean, I think....but even 200 years ago, that place was described as 'hell on Earth'. It wasn't the norm across the UK at the time, it was the lowest ....though, yes, I imagine generally life was much harder (and shorter). Thanks for watching
@@matparks08 Sadly, the workhouse and poverty was the same in major cities. Considering the population was no where near what it is now, high proportion were underfed, high death rates of the young were accepted as normal. I suppose, and I'm no historian the real change in society happened after during and after the first World War, don't forget about the only step out of poverty was to go into service as maids etc. I was born in 1948, my grandmother (fathers side) spent time in the workhouse, had been widowed and it was quite the usual practice due to the poor laws & parish handouts to marry off a widow to a widower so he could work and she could look after the families \ thus no cost to the parish.
Dark history in all races and countries. Sad but true.
True indeed
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Bit like Armley and Holbeck
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