Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction & Overview 0:13 - Hardware Setup for Ubuntu and Fedora 0:47 - Ubuntu Bug and Workaround 1:05 - Installation: Ubuntu vs Fedora 1:22 - Display and Font Adjustments 1:41 - Keyboard Layout and Installation Steps 2:12 - Ubuntu Installation Notes 2:54 - Installation Progress on Both Systems 3:06 - Post-Installation Reboot & Setup 3:40 - Ubuntu Pro Opt-in and Fedora First Boot 4:09 - Fedora First Boot: User Setup 4:27 - Ubuntu and Fedora Default Aesthetics 4:53 - Dark Mode and Backgrounds 5:25 - GNOME 46: Similarities in Both Distros 5:40 - App Stores: Ubuntu vs Fedora 6:00 - Installing Steam on Both Systems 6:56 - Running Steam on Ubuntu and Fedora 7:45 - Installing Factorio on Steam 8:26 - Steam Cross-Computer Download Feature 9:03 - Factorio Performance on Fedora 9:12 - Factorio Error on Ubuntu 9:45 - Troubleshooting Ubuntu Snap Store Issue 10:10 - Fedora System Updates Comparison 10:56 - Updating the Snap Store on Ubuntu via Terminal 11:35 - Final Attempt to Run Factorio on Ubuntu 12:00 - Firefox Comparison: Fedora vs Ubuntu 12:40 - Default Aesthetics: Minimal Fedora vs Ubuntu with Icons 12:56 - Default Applications Comparison 13:33 - Installing Insomnia on Both Systems 14:15 - Insomnia: Fedora vs Ubuntu Versions 14:55 - GNOME 46 Screenshot Comparison 15:40 - Notifications & Quick Launcher Comparison 15:55 - Fedora’s Stability vs Ubuntu’s Bugs 16:25 - Conclusion: Fedora 40 vs Ubuntu 24.04
I used to use Ubuntu, but always found I was always applying fixes all the time. Fedora has been solid been using not for the past 3 years and never had an issue. Solid and more refined
this was more of a comparison between the two gnome versions of each distro, not the distro itself. it still was interesting though. i'm neither an ubuntu nor a fedora user and i don't use gnome at all, so i'm happy to not need to decide between these two options :) but if i had to i would nowadays clearly go with fedora
Yeah...I tried both Ubuntu 24.04 and Fedora 40 on my laptop and snaps has ruined Ubuntu. I've had no issues with Fedora. Updates work, all of my extensions work, etc.
I would pick Fedora because Ubuntu has to many bugs. You should compare them again after the Ubuntu point release when the bugs are squatted, but by then Fedora has changed too.
Heyup Johan! I'd agree with you there matey. As you know, I installed Ubu 24.04 myself recently and I can say that I too had that snap store update bug (fixed it using a fix from 22.04). I have to say that even knowing that Ubuntu LTS's aren't really 'stable' until the first point release, I had expected much better from a corporate backed distro. So yeah, I'm tempted to switch that test machine over to Fedora 40 ...but at the same time I want to see how Ubu shapes up over the weeks to come as well. Stick or Twist? :/ Life's so much calmer on my MX...
You missed the change in the default Ubuntu install, now the default install is the old minimal install, while extended install is the old default install with all the applications pre-installed. A comparison based on real hardware in only fair, if you use the same hardware. The OS running on the newest HW will have a disadvantage with respect to HW related bugs. With the modern hypervisors it is more fair to use a VM, unless you want to test gaming performance and in that case you surely need to test on the same HW. The Ubuntu "Software Updater" does not really update snaps, despite that it promises it, so afterwards I always run "snap refresh" in the terminal to get all snaps updated. That avoided the stupid problem with the App Center, it is faster, it works on my other distros with snaps and it shows the progress of the snap updates.
Good points - I think the real hardware part is important because I saw many reviews only using a VM and missed some big issues which users would run into
Fedora 40 has bugs in teams app mysql workbench and also we don't have scurt agent endpoint we only have scurt agent dev available on Fedora. Also in fedora 41 most of apps are not available yet.
Came here to get some insights. Long time Windows user here. Think I will be going Fedora as it is baked into the Asahi Linux project. Yes, I'm moving over to Mac due to the Apple Silicon efficiency. At the same time I feel I won't be entirely happy with the Mac OS, hence Linux as my backup.
I'd go with Ubuntu because technically they do Gnome the best with their accent color choices, sane defaults, extra features and their exclusive triple buffering vsync support that makes it a buttery smooth vsynced experience. Gnome without triple buffering can be a stuttery and low framerate mess, especially on low-end hardware, not so on Ubuntu though. Ubuntu is also easier when installing proprietary drivers, because it gets done automatically during the installation - or - post installation via two or three clicks. Ubuntu has more options enabled within Gnome too, whether that's app indicators or an actual taskbar that can be configured to your desire. I could go on and on - it's the small details that make it superior. In addition, I don't like how Red Hat has spoken about open source and how they actually feel about it in the past.
I have a Dell Precision creator's laptop which I started out using Fedora so I would have the latest Plasma. When 6 plasma came out Fedora chose to focus on Wayland. A couple of my apps just don't play well with Wayland. As human desire would have it I really wanted to keep plasma 6 which Ubuntu/Kubuntu do not have. So the next best thing I found was Tuxedo OS 3. Love it because it has plasma 6, still has X11 and Ubuntu stability. Ubuntu collaborates with Dell so I find it keeps up with Fedora in every way for drivers, BIOS updates, install etc. It excels beyond many distros in this same regards. Personally I find the Ubuntu community more congenial than Fedora which is deeply appreciated when I so something embarrassing. However that said Fedora community is much better place than ARCH community. Burrr, chills my spine just to type that name.
I am running both on my desktop on their own ssd's and both work nicely. However I agree with your comments about Fedora being better out of the box.The one problem I have with Ubuntu is the cog wheel on login for switching between X11 and Wayland is missing. The cog wheel is there if I run Ubuntu on my old laptop though but then the app-store will not boot on that one. Definitely a few bugs with Ubuntu's new release.
I was enjoying Fedora 39 since the start of the year, when I tried upgrading to 40, it blew up in my face. My install became unusable. Fortunately I had everything backed up. Now I'm on Zorin, it's ok.
Me thinks that Ubuntu developers could adopt some of the practises of Fedora: Fix the basics first, and perhaps accept that it can not satisfy all the users of its userbase immediately. Somewhat stricter set of customizations or user options as Fedora also has. I can only guess if Ubuntu 's snap aps store is so large and diverse that it leads to snaps failures? Or inconsistent with Ubuntu's repositories?
@@alsonotraeon Gnome is the DE aka Desktop Environment not the base system. Fedora is an independent distro with their flagship Gnome DE and backed by RHEL, on the other hand Ubuntu is based on Debian Sid which shipped with Gnome DE and backed by Canonical, I believe you've get the scenario.
Major difference between the two is Ubuntu is for newbies while Fedora requires some Linux knowledge and the only common thing between them is the Gnome Desktop.
out of my experience, fedora was always quite a bit easier to use and you dont need to use the terminal as much. my parents could figure out fedora. ubuntu wasnt bad but it took more time for them to figure out
install gnome tweaks & you get better look than ubuntu some bing wallpapers or other dynamic one thing in PROS for Ubuntu -- it`s unique installer. Fedora uses standart "anaconda" wich is same in a lot of other distribution, not bad (have some issues with locales & timezones in some other distros & mine prefer is Fedora`s installer, cause i`m from Ukraine and don`t want russian locales or bellarussian timezones)
Interesting comparison. I'm learning development, and searching which distro to switch from Windows. I think I'll go for Fedora, since I want a simple work out of the box. There's always a future opportunity to try out other distros, ofc.. Thanks!
No meu pc ambos rodam bem, mas no Fedora tenho pequenos bugs de áudio as vezes atrasos no Chrome por exemplo, no Ubuntu tudo funciona perfeitamente então acabo optando por ele, o dnf também é meio lento oque me incomoda as vezes.
I just played around with Fedora 41 beta which makes dnf5 the default. That's a huge improvement in terms of speed! Now on par with nala. I think in recent versions of Fedora you could also use dnf5 already, but it wasn't default just yet, and I'm not sure if it's a good idea to switch back and forth.
Ubuntu hss snap, pulls user activities, and is buggy. Fedora with its pure gnome helps concentration ( a lot), so, it keeps being fedora for me, as in the last 5 years. I'd like an lts, but well, it"s what it is, for some good reason I don't know, but trust
Yeah I'm starting to get tired of ubuntu. I just don't get on with snaps and now stuff like the firmware updater is a snap for some reaosn so obliterating snap is taking out OS functionality which is a bummer. Fedora or back to debian 😕
Tried Fedora. Even with default partition install as recommended for dual boot, Fedora nuked Windows in grub and uefi. Could not recover Windows at all. Ubuntu did dual boot with no problem. Going back to Ubuntu with vanilla Gnome, basically same look as Fedora.
Today i switched from windows to fedora 40 workstation and the experience was unpleasant at least at first i installed the distribution when i restarted its all black screen goddamn i thought i nuked my system faster than linus but it appears that linux and Nvidia doesn't go well together..... I force shutdown and surprisingly after restart the system is ready to setup something like that if it happened to windows it would blow my system heck it would even blow my pc/laptop😶 But overall fedora a great system i need to learn alot about the terminal, system parts, wine, etc...
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction & Overview
0:13 - Hardware Setup for Ubuntu and Fedora
0:47 - Ubuntu Bug and Workaround
1:05 - Installation: Ubuntu vs Fedora
1:22 - Display and Font Adjustments
1:41 - Keyboard Layout and Installation Steps
2:12 - Ubuntu Installation Notes
2:54 - Installation Progress on Both Systems
3:06 - Post-Installation Reboot & Setup
3:40 - Ubuntu Pro Opt-in and Fedora First Boot
4:09 - Fedora First Boot: User Setup
4:27 - Ubuntu and Fedora Default Aesthetics
4:53 - Dark Mode and Backgrounds
5:25 - GNOME 46: Similarities in Both Distros
5:40 - App Stores: Ubuntu vs Fedora
6:00 - Installing Steam on Both Systems
6:56 - Running Steam on Ubuntu and Fedora
7:45 - Installing Factorio on Steam
8:26 - Steam Cross-Computer Download Feature
9:03 - Factorio Performance on Fedora
9:12 - Factorio Error on Ubuntu
9:45 - Troubleshooting Ubuntu Snap Store Issue
10:10 - Fedora System Updates Comparison
10:56 - Updating the Snap Store on Ubuntu via Terminal
11:35 - Final Attempt to Run Factorio on Ubuntu
12:00 - Firefox Comparison: Fedora vs Ubuntu
12:40 - Default Aesthetics: Minimal Fedora vs Ubuntu with Icons
12:56 - Default Applications Comparison
13:33 - Installing Insomnia on Both Systems
14:15 - Insomnia: Fedora vs Ubuntu Versions
14:55 - GNOME 46 Screenshot Comparison
15:40 - Notifications & Quick Launcher Comparison
15:55 - Fedora’s Stability vs Ubuntu’s Bugs
16:25 - Conclusion: Fedora 40 vs Ubuntu 24.04
Fedora 40 Gnome on desktop- beautiful. Ubuntu 24.04 on laptop awesome on 240hz -runs better. Both incredible. No Ai scans. I'm back!
I love ubuntu I currently have snaps and flatpaks No issues
I used to use Ubuntu, but always found I was always applying fixes all the time. Fedora has been solid been using not for the past 3 years and never had an issue. Solid and more refined
this was more of a comparison between the two gnome versions of each distro, not the distro itself. it still was interesting though.
i'm neither an ubuntu nor a fedora user and i don't use gnome at all, so i'm happy to not need to decide between these two options :) but if i had to i would nowadays clearly go with fedora
Yeah...I tried both Ubuntu 24.04 and Fedora 40 on my laptop and snaps has ruined Ubuntu. I've had no issues with Fedora. Updates work, all of my extensions work, etc.
Yeah same for me
Snaps are freaking horrible.
@@otockian Yep
Same for me, recently moved to Fedora from Ubuntu because of that
@@klaus-heinzmorales4448 is fedora good for old laptops with 8gb DDR3 ram
I would pick Fedora because Ubuntu has to many bugs. You should compare them again after the Ubuntu point release when the bugs are squatted, but by then Fedora has changed too.
Heyup Johan! I'd agree with you there matey. As you know, I installed Ubu 24.04 myself recently and I can say that I too had that snap store update bug (fixed it using a fix from 22.04). I have to say that even knowing that Ubuntu LTS's aren't really 'stable' until the first point release, I had expected much better from a corporate backed distro. So yeah, I'm tempted to switch that test machine over to Fedora 40 ...but at the same time I want to see how Ubu shapes up over the weeks to come as well. Stick or Twist? :/ Life's so much calmer on my MX...
@@stationsixtyseven67 It surely is😉
I'm a Ubuntu fan but I got sick of Snap and use Fedora, Manjaro now
Grats
Now enable fractional scaling on fedora
Fedora is the better choice.
EndeavourOS is the better choice.
Arch is a good choice too.
Depends on your use TBH
I personally use Fedora, but Ubuntu LTS for sure also has it's place.
I have been using Linux for past 4 years. I thought ubuntu is the best. After one year of usage, I tried fedora. It's fantastic
@@TheAliAhad ???
A lot has changed since my red hat 4.1 days in the 90s
Ubuntu wins on looks? Is it just me who think Fedora looks much better?
Looks pretty meaningless, you can install any desktop environment on either of them. I always use KDE
Tried fedora, but i will stick with mint now
I also prefer Mint, on old hardware & Fedora on new one
Exellent comparison and analysis!
Have only use Ubuntu in past but consider Fedora.
You missed the change in the default Ubuntu install, now the default install is the old minimal install, while extended install is the old default install with all the applications pre-installed.
A comparison based on real hardware in only fair, if you use the same hardware. The OS running on the newest HW will have a disadvantage with respect to HW related bugs. With the modern hypervisors it is more fair to use a VM, unless you want to test gaming performance and in that case you surely need to test on the same HW.
The Ubuntu "Software Updater" does not really update snaps, despite that it promises it, so afterwards I always run "snap refresh" in the terminal to get all snaps updated. That avoided the stupid problem with the App Center, it is faster, it works on my other distros with snaps and it shows the progress of the snap updates.
Good points - I think the real hardware part is important because I saw many reviews only using a VM and missed some big issues which users would run into
Great video, I’m a total nube. After using Windows for most of my life this is mind blowing. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowledge.
So, new version of Ubuntu has bugs. Wait for next version, got it.
Fedora has much more up to date software compared to Ubuntu.
Fedora have a big problem if your install on new RTX graphic card....install not launch....
Fedora 39 is better than Ubuntu 22.04 on new RTX graphic card. I will not change for Fedora 40 for now, it still early
This makes me so happy that I went with Fedora
Fedora 40 has bugs in teams app mysql workbench and also we don't have scurt agent endpoint we only have scurt agent dev available on Fedora. Also in fedora 41 most of apps are not available yet.
Came here to get some insights. Long time Windows user here. Think I will be going Fedora as it is baked into the Asahi Linux project. Yes, I'm moving over to Mac due to the Apple Silicon efficiency. At the same time I feel I won't be entirely happy with the Mac OS, hence Linux as my backup.
I'd go with Ubuntu because technically they do Gnome the best with their accent color choices, sane defaults, extra features and their exclusive triple buffering vsync support that makes it a buttery smooth vsynced experience. Gnome without triple buffering can be a stuttery and low framerate mess, especially on low-end hardware, not so on Ubuntu though. Ubuntu is also easier when installing proprietary drivers, because it gets done automatically during the installation - or - post installation via two or three clicks. Ubuntu has more options enabled within Gnome too, whether that's app indicators or an actual taskbar that can be configured to your desire. I could go on and on - it's the small details that make it superior. In addition, I don't like how Red Hat has spoken about open source and how they actually feel about it in the past.
i prefer the defult gnome of Fedora, i've seen inconsistencies and broken stuff using Ubuntu
I did not know Fedora could run on System 76 devices. Is the process pretty much like for any other computer?
It's just a PC, It can run any distro and even Windows if you fancy
Can you check that Android Studio works on Fedora including emulators? Emulators is my major pain, since bring CPU to 100%.
I have a Dell Precision creator's laptop which I started out using Fedora so I would have the latest Plasma. When 6 plasma came out Fedora chose to focus on Wayland. A couple of my apps just don't play well with Wayland. As human desire would have it I really wanted to keep plasma 6 which Ubuntu/Kubuntu do not have. So the next best thing I found was Tuxedo OS 3. Love it because it has plasma 6, still has X11 and Ubuntu stability. Ubuntu collaborates with Dell so I find it keeps up with Fedora in every way for drivers, BIOS updates, install etc. It excels beyond many distros in this same regards. Personally I find the Ubuntu community more congenial than Fedora which is deeply appreciated when I so something embarrassing. However that said Fedora community is much better place than ARCH community. Burrr, chills my spine just to type that name.
Nice video - told me what I needed, BUT you should definitely count the number of times you say "go ahead"....
I switched to Fedora many years ago due to all bugs in Ubuntu. Interesting to see that Ubuntu is just as buggy, even right after a clean install
I am running both on my desktop on their own ssd's and both work nicely. However I agree with your comments about Fedora being better out of the box.The one problem I have with Ubuntu is the cog wheel on login for switching between X11 and Wayland is missing. The cog wheel is there if I run Ubuntu on my old laptop though but then the app-store will not boot on that one. Definitely a few bugs with Ubuntu's new release.
I was enjoying Fedora 39 since the start of the year, when I tried upgrading to 40, it blew up in my face. My install became unusable. Fortunately I had everything backed up. Now I'm on Zorin, it's ok.
Tried fedora many times and never enjoyed it. Things didnt work, graphical glitches and lots of errors.
for users like me who don't prefer snaps fedora is the best. some prefer debian as well
Me thinks that Ubuntu developers could adopt some of the practises of Fedora: Fix the basics first, and perhaps accept that it can not satisfy all the users of its userbase immediately. Somewhat stricter set of customizations or user options as Fedora also has. I can only guess if Ubuntu 's snap aps store is so large and diverse that it leads to snaps failures? Or inconsistent with Ubuntu's repositories?
I'd never comparison a main distro with a based on distro.
these are both gnome-based. neither of them are a "main" distro.
@@alsonotraeon Gnome is the DE aka Desktop Environment not the base system. Fedora is an independent distro with their flagship Gnome DE and backed by RHEL, on the other hand Ubuntu is based on Debian Sid which shipped with Gnome DE and backed by Canonical, I believe you've get the scenario.
@@alsonotraeon Gnome is desktop environment? so main is Debian on ubuntu side. means ubuntu is a distro of Debian. also Fedora continued from Red Hat.
Major difference between the two is Ubuntu is for newbies while Fedora requires some Linux knowledge and the only common thing between them is the Gnome Desktop.
out of my experience, fedora was always quite a bit easier to use and you dont need to use the terminal as much. my parents could figure out fedora. ubuntu wasnt bad but it took more time for them to figure out
install gnome tweaks & you get better look than ubuntu some bing wallpapers or other dynamic
one thing in PROS for Ubuntu -- it`s unique installer.
Fedora uses standart "anaconda" wich is same in a lot of other distribution, not bad (have some issues with locales & timezones in some other distros & mine prefer is Fedora`s installer, cause i`m from Ukraine and don`t want russian locales or bellarussian timezones)
I have kbuntu 24.04 with ubuntu studio installed on it and I will be trying fedora jam40 installed on flash drive as portable os
Fedora 40 for me.
me too had issues with ubuntu 24.04 and nvidia driver issue
Hi. how to make ubuntu with desktop enlightenment? is there an iso ready to use on the starter pendrive?
uuu factoriooo ! im absolutely addicted to it
Interesting comparison. I'm learning development, and searching which distro to switch from Windows. I think I'll go for Fedora, since I want a simple work out of the box. There's always a future opportunity to try out other distros, ofc.. Thanks!
Fedora KDE for the win
more than half this video is installation. would expect a showdown to be tops 30second comment on how easy it is to install each one.
Man it's always snaps ruining Ubuntu's experience...
sudo apt purge snapd
why though?
fedora is good , but release to short
No meu pc ambos rodam bem, mas no Fedora tenho pequenos bugs de áudio as vezes atrasos no Chrome por exemplo, no Ubuntu tudo funciona perfeitamente então acabo optando por ele, o dnf também é meio lento oque me incomoda as vezes.
I just played around with Fedora 41 beta which makes dnf5 the default. That's a huge improvement in terms of speed! Now on par with nala. I think in recent versions of Fedora you could also use dnf5 already, but it wasn't default just yet, and I'm not sure if it's a good idea to switch back and forth.
Videos are sluggering just like on Linux mint?
Ubuntu 24.04 is fast and nice but i did have program errors ubuntu still needs work
Ubuntu hss snap, pulls user activities, and is buggy. Fedora with its pure gnome helps concentration ( a lot), so, it keeps being fedora for me, as in the last 5 years. I'd like an lts, but well, it"s what it is, for some good reason I don't know, but trust
I would pick... Linux Mint. :)
Yeah I'm starting to get tired of ubuntu. I just don't get on with snaps and now stuff like the firmware updater is a snap for some reaosn so obliterating snap is taking out OS functionality which is a bummer. Fedora or back to debian 😕
ubuntu looks more polished
"looks"
@@elim.c.8563 I have installed in on my machine as the main OS , I must say this editions is polished
imo, not really. i guess thats more based on personal preference. ubuntu may look nicer to you, but it is OBJECTIVELY more buggy.
Replace snap with flatpak.
for my hp omen laptop, screen flicker even on wayland on ubuntu 24.04, on the other side on fedora 40, battery drain so fast within 1 hour
Neither can do fractional scaling properly. Multiple monitors - don't bother. The Fedora KDE 6 version is perfect.
I tried both and ended up with Linux Mint
Mee too but when it comes to MySQL it's not working properly on mint😢
Videos are sluggering on mint
Tried Fedora. Even with default partition install as recommended for dual boot, Fedora nuked Windows in grub and uefi. Could not recover Windows at all. Ubuntu did dual boot with no problem. Going back to Ubuntu with vanilla Gnome, basically same look as Fedora.
LTS vs bi-annual?
I always need to go newer for all the drivers, but you can get stuck with Davinci Resolve etc (but Arch AUR fixes most of these)
on ubuntu many steam(deb) games lagged with NVIDIA driver
Hi can l playing pubg pc in fedora , thank you .
it is not supported on any linux with steam wine/proton. it is broken as of protondb.
I pick Fedora 40 instead of ubuntu , don't like Snap
fedora40. good.
Today i switched from windows to fedora 40 workstation and the experience was unpleasant at least at first i installed the distribution when i restarted its all black screen goddamn i thought i nuked my system faster than linus but it appears that linux and Nvidia doesn't go well together.....
I force shutdown and surprisingly after restart the system is ready to setup something like that if it happened to windows it would blow my system heck it would even blow my pc/laptop😶
But overall fedora a great system i need to learn alot about the terminal, system parts, wine, etc...
i opted for endeavour os gemini thats just me tho. archlife
This wideo show Fedora os better.
Ubuntu is.. BUGbuntu.
+1 ubuntu minimal install
99.9% every update on Fedora you have to restart. It's annoying
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where is the problem with install ?
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Look at the top panel of Gnome 😅 Totally useless. They wanted to mimic mac design but ended up failing 😅
Am not gonna waste my vertical space 😊