What D&D Alignment is Guts? (Berserk)
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2022
- At long last, we look at the legendary Black Swordsman: Guts
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#dnd #guts #berserk - Фільми й анімація
Can't wait to see what Griffith's genius plan of "Send Guts in to carry us" gets on the alignment board.
That IS a fair point. I wonder...
I feel like Berzerk is seeing a sort of resurgents.
This might even be because of Brien Green's ongoing summary of it right now.
@@devlinmcguire7543 Its just always finding new readers/watchers. Plus fans only get more rabid and invested the more they re read and re watch.
He'd have to just be Chatoic Evil Apostle Godhand Demon King.
@@devlinmcguire7543I liked the part where Evil Otto appeared and used his automatic weapons on everyone. Truly one of the scariest moments of all time.
Honestly, Guts reminds me of a puppy... Hurt and abused when he was younger, he was distrustful of people until he learned how to appreciate another person's dream, so he does all he can in order to make the dreams and hopes of others a reality despite not having a dream for himself.
I just wish there was a happier ending...
I'd say there is but the fantasia arc is ending and so does the fantasy of that happy ending :/
he is a "mad dog" afterall
Well guts was always portrayed as a mad dog whenever he went berserk.
There's no way in hell there's going to be happy ending for Guts at best a bittersweet one where at the cost his life all his struggles will pay off for most his new pseudo family and they can go on and live better fuller lives than he did. Its the most Guts can dream for at this point.
@@Terminalsanity miura himself said guts is going to have a happy ending, and it's still his ideas being used for the new chapters, so I'm pretty sure it's happier than that
What I love about Berserk is how dynamic Guts is. His change throughout the story really shows how much he has grown over the years.
I can't get through the ending of the Golden Age arc without crying. I even feel sorry for Corkus, that beautifully dumb bastard of a man.
It's even worse reading this the second time around, since you notice and treasure those suddenly-insufficient moments all the more.
@@Thalanox First time, second time, twenty-fourth time. It always hurts and I hope to god I never stop feeling for those people.
Corkus did nothing wrong.
the apostle guts kills on the first page is the same one that killed corkus
i was sad when Pippin was left behind, Happy when Corkus got slayed, then sad again when Judeau and Pippin
I think part of the reason we don't laugh at the edge lord backstory of Guts, is because we actually sat through it with him as it unfolded. It wasn't just word salad spat out during the dnd session first night's campfire. The other half of the reason is like you said. He's angry and extreme, but he still cares. He still participates in the dialog of the role-playing at the table. He's an edge lord done right.
He the kind of guy edge lord who earned his status as edge lord for what he been through
See I agree with the statements until “edge lord” is pulled. He does not really fully embody that archetype he didn’t act like edge lord but more like a man who is deeply damaged just trying to make it another day in life.
@@bestratchetandclank agrees, he act like that to not be attract to people and drive people aways from him, cause if he see person he cares got kills it would messed up his mental state even more, so he act an edge lord
@@Gow-13510
But Guts the Black Swordsman is not an edge lord. He’s a Serrated Lord, and the Struggler.
His uber-grimdark backstory works because every major participant is believably motivated every step of the way
The White Hawk has traded his wings of cloth, wood, and wax for those of gilded steel.
The Iron Doll has been marked with rust, her luster torn asunder.
The Black Dog is marked for death, with hell sure to follow.
Also, damn you, Loaderboi! You got me in trouble with my church's youth group! Showed them what I was watching only for Guts to shout and ask, "who wants to suck me off"!
I think Guts and Casca's love scene is so effective because of the subtler imagery at work - at the end of the scene, you see a nude man and woman kissing in a carefree and uninhibited manner in a natural environment, with a large tree in the background. Maybe I am overreaching, but there is an almost Garden of Eden type quality to the imagery at work here, which conveys that this is one of the last moments of true innocence Guts and Casca will experience before Griffith does what he does. This sweet and fully consensual encounter also contrasts markedly with the horror of Griffith's later crime. In many ways, the whole Golden Age arc is about that death of innocence. For Guts, he goes through several iterations of it one way and another, with things just getting worse and worse for him each time, though it is Griffith's betrayal of Casca, Guts, the Hawks, and indeed all of humanity that cuts the deepest.
When it comes to fantasy tales of Friendship and their protagonists, there are two extremes of light and darkness that stands above everything else; My Little Pony and Berserk, Twilight Sparkle and Guts.
Great ! Now you get me wondering what interactions between the two of them would be like...
I feel the reason why the sex scene is needed and is as good as it is, is because we know Gut's life, we are seeing it. He has been abused, traumatized, and broken multiple times. His life isn't good at all. But then he finds love, genuine, pure love, we see how deeply in passion the two are. He finally gets a good moment, his life is finally starting to turn. It is also a juxtaposition to when Grifiith get that in it's own twisted way, with Guts she concented, with Grifith she did not, he violated the one thing in his life that made Gut's happy. To me if it was a great story telling piece where we see him at his best before he falls to his lowest
OMG I JUST SCREAMED IN LAUGHER WHEN I NOTICED YOU USED THE OUTTAKES, that video to me is SO PERFECT.
Griffith saying "Come here mini-me.... Can I have a hug? You complete me...." from the shadows is perfect.
AND TO BE HONEST Fighting a 100 Enemies in DnD isn't that hard, specially if they're all melee cuz only 8 can attack you at the same time unless they have polearms.
Can't wait for more. Guts and Geralt of Rivia were heavy influences for my first DnD character.
Mine was Stallion from Words Worth. :)
I got into the manga after watching the 1997 anime a year, and I've been loving every bit of it. I was astounded how much the anime left out in the Golden Age, and I was really floored by Guts' PTSD sex scene with Casca, as it really hit close to home. My favorite scene in the manga so far tbh.
You arent supposed to identify to him.
But at that exact moment, i was Guts. I love my girlfriend so much, we've been together for nearly a year, but sometimes the past just surges out. She is very understanding, but it breaks my heart everytime it happens. I hope that one day it will stop.
Depictions of trauma with consequences is not that frequent in fiction, and i'll forever love berserk for doing it well.
Fun fact: in the PS3 and Xbox 360 version of the action RPG dragon's dogma you can get guts and griffiths armour.
Guts is basically a chaotic neutral done well - refusing both adherance to standard law as well as any specific honor codex, caring mostly about himself and those close to him, pursuining not some lofty ideals or objective good but his own personal agenda and, IMO the main feature of chaotic neutral - he changes with time.
Like, this is what I see in most depictions of chaotic neutral done good - sooner or later a chaotic good character will either pick an ideology, morality or adherence to either more righteous or villainous methods of pursuing his/her agenda either making them more lawful/pure neutral or more good/bad, chaotic neutral is an excellent starting space for a character but ultimately interesting characters typically leave that space as their development pushes them into some idea of what to do besides being a murder hobo Guts kinda was in the beginning (let's not lie, Guts started as a murder hobo adhering to laws as a mercenary only for the purpose of not being an outlaw since that can become inconvenient) and it was the band of the hawk and ties with his friends as well as events down the line that allowed him to develop.
Like, that's the objective problem of most murder-hobos, being a murder-hobo on first one or two sessions based on character backstory is okay, the thing is a good character will find something else to do than being that.
Oh boi, a multi-part look at two of fiction's greatest larger than life characters, and in separate stages of life. Stuart is spoiling us now.
Incoming "Griffith did nothing wrong" memes, which I will refute to my dying breath.
Griffith did everything wrong to his comrades
@@The_Blue_Otaku you monster, how could you? 😢
@@supremefankai5480 Dude you read my coment wrong i think Griffith did everything wrong to his comrades like he betrayed those who looked up to him and sentenced them to a brutal death
@@The_Blue_Otaku I meant Griffith too, sorry for the confusion.
I still remember that day when sadly he passed away and all of us in Final Fantasy XIV honored him by standing in the streets as our Dark Knights and mourn the passing.
Though it was only in a video game if he was alive to see that everybody in Final Fantasy XIV really cared about his work I think he would have shed a tear.
The Black swordsman Arc/Conviction arc are gonna make that alignment shift in big ways , cant wait for more!
We can see chaotic evil Guts then
look it is still a stealth mission if there are no witnesses left
The yelling of Griffith's name ensues.
Really loving the added touch of Guts' theme in the post-analysis.
Funny thing about the 1997 Berserk anime, the company that produced it is the same one producing the Komi Can’t Communicate anime.
Great video. I've honestly been hoping you would cover Guts and it's finally here. BTW that after credits scene had me in stitches...
Guts is all over the map depending on which Arc you are in. He starts off Chaotic Neutral, joins the band of the hawks and cycles through various lawful alignments. And then after the eclipse becomes a very chaotic character. And then makes his way back to a more neutral alignment after he forms his own band. He hits basically every point on the chart at one time or another.
Like a real human would IMO
I can’t begin to tell you how fast I clicked, lord have mercy on my phone screen.
Did it do a CLANG sound?
@@giorgioguolo7196 it was more like a violent thud. One of these days, my fingers are gonna be the reason I crack my screen lol
Such a great character and story! Glad to see you do this and can't wait to see the sequel!
Magnificent work. Marvelous video.
Dude!! This is the greatest D&Desque character for dark fantasy ever! LET's GOOO!
I've been waiting for this. Also loved the void blooper inclusion.
I'm happy guts is finally being covered
And Griffiths betrayal without a doubt is the second time Guts had been messed up so much
This is my first time commenting, I absolutely love your content and I’ve been kind of back seat just watching and enjoying. You are a remarkable human and your videos bring me a lot of joy. Both unfortunately and fortunately I relate to and identify with guts in nearly every way. So thank you so much for getting to him as it helped me feel seen. I’ll do a better job of interacting from now on 😅 and thank you
I cannot wait for you to the rest of this series and these characters.
The outtakes make it even better.
Great video as always
just started binge watching these videos and have really enjoyed them i would love to see kenpachis video at some point
At 7:45 with the NAUGHTY!... I understood that reference.
Can't wait for part 2 where his alighment starts dumping towards evil and starts holding kids hostage
Recently began reading beserk and just finished the lost children arc and something about the last couple of lines Jill said has stuck with me. Here’s a little girl with a mother who does very little to stop her husband from abusing their daughter, who it’s highly hinted at doesn’t give a shit that his drinking buddies are apparently raping his daughter.
Her best friend ran away and turned into a monster and eventually killed by guts
And she comes to the realization that she would not survive if she went with Guts
At the end of the arc Jill returns home (a place that is so terrible even guts refers to it as her battlefield) this sounds like a depressing ending, it feels like it should be a depressing ending, but now when Jill gets asked by Puck what will she do now she responds “I think this time I will try crying scratching and biting”
This really really stuck with me
If your reduced to only being able to do Crying scratching and biting typically the take away is that you are reduced to the most pitiful of states if that’s your only recourse, however that pitiful state is better then being passive and accepting the horrible things happening to you.
It’s better to pitifully struggle then passively surrender
This stuck with me a lot more then I expected it to
I'm so down for this!
So happy to see Guts. So fascinating and I love the video
Commenting to help the video fund!
I was hoping you would do a video on guts and I’m happy that you finally have I can’t wait to see the alignment of the other arks
From N > NE > CE (all known arcs)
Though I will say that from the standpoint of Nessasary Evil and with limited Chaotic tendencies. He does murder in the face of city laws/authority and to get his way.
Even without the armors influence he's still CE. Him being an amoral berserker does that.
Cannot wait for the other arcs. :D
Requesting the Kirby trio, Gunvolt and Copen.
And absolutely incredible series so on board for this
Such a great video 👍 just got a new sub❤❤❤ can’t wait for more
Worst thing is they are still branded, meaning even if they are not killed by demons what expects them in the afterlife is hell, eternal suffering.
I'd also like to note (in a new comment not an edit) that this video's release timing was perfect given how we just got word yesterday (the 10th) that the art director for Berserk 1997 passed away on August 25th.
Kinda sad you didn't go over the post-eclipse arc, but guts before and after the eclipse might as well be different characters. So, fair point.
Can’t wait for part 2
Berserk is one of those series where I have to be in the mood to watch. It's a gorey, unhappy mess, and some people won't be into that.
And that's fine. I don't blame anyone for not being into Berserk. It's a rough story.
Dimitri from Fire Emblem vs Guts is a Death Battle matchup I really like, and I think it'd be interesting to see how Dimitri's story compares to Guts'
Old enough to be Dimitri's dad
@@zacharyrodriguez4348 Perhaps, but unlike Dimitri's dad, Guts is alive.
I feel like Dimitri and Guts could be a power duo, have you ever read the Conviction arc whilst listening to chasing daybreak?
Fuck, should've taken my headphones with me!
Berserk is such a cool series. Whenever I play D&D I play fighter and want my character to be as awesome and terrifying as Guts!!!!
Wouldn't Guts be more apt as a barbarian? You don't need furs and loincloths to play one.. I mean just look at him, he goes "berserk" duh, dose reckless attacks ALL the time and doesn't wear heavy armor but medium at best.
@@Geraduss that’s a good point, I’ve always done fighters cause of the extra feats. Whenever I cleave or great cleave I think of him
I love to see a dnd build for guts
Whoooooo boy! Let’s fucking do this!
YESSSSSS. I HAVE WAITED FOR THIS ALIGNMENT FOR SO LONG. THANK YOU.
I'd have put him at true neutral. He's almost always a purely reactive character through the golden age.
The black swordsman and the conviction arc, he's much more chaotic evil. In that he really isn't thinking about the consequences of his actions. The sheer trail of bodies he leaves in the wake of his drive for revenge.
When he's reunited with Casca and he forms his own ragtag little band, he becomes a lot more neutral good. He reconciles a lot of his own trauma and decides to live for more than just revenge.
Where we're up to now, in the Fantasia arc, he's actually sort of achieved his goal of becoming someone who Griffith should see as an equal. He's a leader in his own right, people look at him with the same reverence that Griffith inspired. They see this singular force of nature that just won't stop, no matter what is standing in his way. Everyone who crosses his path, their lives are irrevocably changed. And not all for the worse.
He is his own bonfire now, and people are casting their own flames into it.
Commenting for the algorithm and to illustrate my desire for this series to continue.
Neutral Good? hun...totally imagined him as the Chaotic Good type....neet :D
I love this series
for a man with no dream, anyone with a dream just seems that much brighter to him. that is a POWERFUL description of Guts, and really is one of the reasons he's one of my favorite characters. unlike so many other dark and angry badasses, he's got a heart. he reminds me of Drizzt Do'Urden, a character with every reason to be an angry edgelord, but is instead a pretty positive, wholesome person. Guts doesn't live in a world where he CAN be wholesome very much, but he still cares about others.
YES! FINALLY!
Believe it or not, the love scene in the manga has a tinge more "Chaotic Neutral" to it. Primarily because midway, Guts starts losing his mind and seeing Casca as his child self; strangling her in his insanity. Afterwards Guts snaps out of his mania and actually admits that he killed his father to her, saying that of all the people he killed, Gambino was the only one he regrets.
By the way, you got a like by starting off Guts as Chaotic Neutral because that's pretty apt for him in the start: he's a man that will do what he believes is best for him, reputation with others be damned. Even if I personally see him as dancing the line between Chaotic Good and Neutral as of Chapter 371. That's also what makes him a great protagonist, damn well the best: he's not perfectly good and does some pretty evil shit, but he is trying to do what's right by killing these evil creatures he hunts on a daily basis. That's not just because of his Vengeance and hatred of these monsters, but because they threaten those he cares for and they ultimately get him back to humanity.
Time to put our grasses on
You haven't considered Guts in Black Swordsman Arc, Lost of Children Arc, Tower of Conviction Arc, Millenium Falcon Arc and Fantasia Arc. He was even aligned to chaotic evil when you experience how far he could be as malicious as possible to revenge as Black Swordsman(real one, not the SAO one). Yet, he changed a lot later on with the addition of some comrades into his adventure party, which made him a grown neutral good person. In this way, Guts is a complex person that has tried nearly all alignments in D&D.
Golden Age Guts is a genuinely good person
Black Swordsman Guts is a broken deranged Man who eventually has to come to terms with the monster he has become.
Fantasia Arc Guts is a Man who has come to terms with himself and his place in the world who is willing to do whatever is necessary to protect what he has left.
Lawful sad. That's his alignment.
as a kid this ending scared me, it was my first the hero's lose, i later found out about the manga at age 15, damn i hoped to see the author conclude their story. im a bit sad now.
I more view Guts as chaotic good myself. Yeah, he started out chaotic neutral, only going through the motions and all that. But at the same time, the man does have a bit of a moral compass and it's only more obvious once Guts joins the Band of the Hawk and fell in love with Casca. Then after the Eclipse, welp, dude is very much on his journey to becoming the chaotic good badass he would eventually become.
I'd plant him at TN(g) with the extreme qualifier. I use a 3D compass rose for alignments in my campaign. He'd fall on Extreme Neutral(g), that alignment side can technically be called "mentally ill" in ways the alignment compass rose cannot cover. Extreme Neutral is someone who is generally True Neutral but goes to every extreme in all directions, not just someone in the gray area, but someone who goes extreme in every minor thing, probably because of issues.
Do you have an image to see your 3d alignments ? I'm interested in seeing it if it's not a bother.
@@lux2625 All my stuff is on paper and I haven't gamed in years. I'm gonna' do a search and see if anyone who I gamed with posted it online. I think two of them have a blog. I don't make the internet (other than email) how I keep in contact with people. So, I'll keep this box open while I search.
It's not there but someone did something similar. Same general idea, not quite what I had.
URL: "i.redd.it/hogof0ircv971.png"
You might want to copy the text from your notices. URLs seem to vanish from the comments unless you are giving UA-cam money.
Always love representation for my favorite series
I feel like that's a little difficult to discern. He goes from telling a princess to off herself after he killed her father to developing deeper, genuine connections and attachments with other people, and would probably break your jaw if he heard you tell that to someone.
"This is fiction and this is kinda the safe place to express these kinda dark ideas"
Damn, dude.
I wish there were more people who understood the difference between that and merely indulging in them... not to mention the harm in callously accusing everybody of the latter.
YESSS THANK U!!!!!
As much as I'd love to see you continue the series, I'd love to see you cover Kazuma Satou from Konosuba, Jin Sakai from Ghost of Tsushima and Riku from Kingdom Hearts
Very cool video.
I love berserk so much
I love Beserk so much. So many of the Band of the Hawk's members have so much heart and character. It was honestly a delight to read, and the series is my benchmark for not only good manga but good story telling in general.
And then the Eclipse happens and everyone's plot armor melts.
I had fun making a Guts character in a Star Wars campaign. He fit pretty well into the universe
over a year later and still waiting on that part 2
Would love to see you do a video on Ainz from Overlord
I refuse to watch a 20 minute video to find out the DnD alignment of Guts. Gimme the damn alignment!
Berserk is an amazing series, even the 3d CG ones.
I think it's be fun to see a video about Sabine Wren from Star Wars Rebels.
Chaotic Neutral early on but Chaotic Good in his later stages.
Haven't read more than the golden age but I do know what happens up till about the sea king. I am excited to see how this goes 😃
I'm gonna guess lawful evil.
LETS GO!
I wonder how many fictional characters there are that go through as many shifts as Guts - from chaotic neutral in the beginning of Golden Age, neutral good at the end of Golden Age, lawful evil in Black Swordsman/Conviction, to maybe chaotic good for the rest of the series (in my opinion, obviously). I think most characters start in one place and progress to another in a straight line, but Berserk veers all over the place and somehow makes it feel natural.
Black Swordsman/Conviction was more like chaotic evil
His Alignment is currently Neutral
more please, I need my berserk fix.
Aligment: blood and guts
So Guts has finally gotten of the Boat to get here?
Berserk is my favorite manga of all time yes its dark and gritty but the that's all surface stuff (and yes that surface is thick) but I never read a more human character than guts
5:38. Ironically even the bath scene serves as both added foundation for the unique friendship guts and Griffith in comparison to Griffith and the rest of the band of the hawk,
and it also shows how Griffith when he drops his mask of the leader of the band of the hawk, acts childish, as a reflection of his emotional immaturity due to him
suppressing his emotions since he was a kid, aka he is psychological stunted in that regard.
I'm doing my part.
Guts was born without a purpose, doing the one thing he grew up knowing. He sought out danger because it was familiar, but he didn't really enjoy the thrill in any way. Griffith was born with a dream deep in his heart, a destiny he would surely succeed in following. We know far less about his very early life, but ultimately he would choose to gather a group of powerful warriors to help him push for his goal. He did not necessarily enjoy fighting either, but it 'was' a means to an end. Unfortunately, to Griffith, everything was a means to an end, on some level. His vision was so clouded with his dream he could barely see the people he had gathered to follow him. But for Guts, his purpose came from finding a reason to fight, from opening his eyes to the people around him and choosing to help and support them on their journeys. He didn't know what he was going to do for himself, but until then he would be there for his friends and comrades. Because of that, in part, Griffith came to rely on Guts's loyalty, as well as his strength. Not only was it a boon to his dream, but it was a gift to his heart and psyche. Guts would never use Griffith for his own means, and he wouldn't question it when Griffith asked him for help. I'm not sure I can really state or even understand how important to Griffith's sense of self that Guts became. But then Guts made up his mind to find a dream, and to do that he tore himself away from his master. Without warning, the key to all of Griffith's plans was walking away, and a large part of his heart was going with him. I like to think that it was at that moment where we saw the true Griffith, what lay behind the perfect image he presented to everyone other than Guts.
As someone who doesn't care for berserk I will just have to agree with you
I believe I said this once before, but I'd kind of like to see a video about the deuteragonist of Naruto, Sasuke Uchiha, namely how he bounces around the alignment chart.