The Worst & Most Popular Wheel Cleaner Pro Detailers Use (STOP Buying)

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  • @torocars9227
    @torocars9227 21 день тому +15

    Wilson, did ever fallow Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing, UA-cam channel? 7 years ago I began watching his material on UA-cam and for 2 years he produced one of the best Auto detailing fundamentals videos in the business. I can tell from your choices of words, you're one of lucky followers like myself who saw his videos before he left UA-cam. Those videos were GOLDEN, sadly its lost forever in YT algorithm. Now the YT detailing community are so lost and are pawns to the companies and Detailing influencers who's sold out to various compainies selling watered down and expensive product after product.
    Keep up the good work and exposing those sellout channels promoting product hoarding for the companies that pays all of them to advertise their products. Protect the new guys and lessen victims of this scam. Dallas did.

    • @Pnasty1337
      @Pnasty1337 20 днів тому +3

      Nice observation! My assumption is that he of course followed Dallas and is carrying on the torch so to speak. Wilson's cadence is eerily similar to DPC & AD.

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 20 днів тому +3

      HELLO FOLKS! Scott was fantastic. He was highly supportive, straight to the point and a very honest character. He is much missed.

    • @rosch6655
      @rosch6655 20 днів тому +1

      I believe there's a vid somewhere where Scott & Like actually hooked up...both guys get it and have helped me tremendously in my detailing world...especially cutting through all the bs

    • @victoryensured7137
      @victoryensured7137 17 днів тому +1

      I miss Scott...

    • @reelturner
      @reelturner 16 днів тому +1

      fr these fake detailers getting more views than the real ones too

  • @chrisbradley3224
    @chrisbradley3224 20 днів тому +6

    This is why the best non-acid wheel cleaners are pH neutral iron remover types like KCX MWC, Sonax, etc. They are safer than even the alkaline types like Dark Fury for metals, less harsh on coatings and sealants, and despite the smell, less toxic.

  • @DuckysDetail
    @DuckysDetail 18 днів тому +1

    I’ve swapped to Dark fury in my mobile business for over a year now and it’s a great product! 10:1 and you can use it on rims, tires, rocker panels and bugs! Does a great job without draining your pocket book!

  • @kevinelia7123
    @kevinelia7123 21 день тому +2

    Happy new year to you. I am watching your videos more and more. They’re very educational and you’re the second of two detailers that have told the truth about wheel 0:13 cleaners and tire dark theory is economical, and it is mine now only wheel entire cleaner. I am getting rid of overstock of glove box items that I have received and once they’re exhausted, this will be my main go to cleaner. Your videos are nice and brief as opposed to the ones that go on and on about nothing when we out here want to learn the easiest effective economical productive ways to do our jobs. Thank you.

  • @cristabellondono7223
    @cristabellondono7223 9 днів тому

    Brake Buster is great for maintenance and also has anti-corrosive properties. I use Car Candy Chocolate thunder for the heavier stuff, before that iron remover and brake buster also worked great.

  • @JuiceBokx
    @JuiceBokx 21 день тому +2

    Yes, rear wheel have light brake dust compared to frint wheel wich is prone to contamination from heavily break dust

  • @Paul-oh4fe
    @Paul-oh4fe 21 день тому +9

    I find all of these "wheel cleaners" to be a waste of money and time. Some purple power or similar degreaser, soap, a speedmaster, and a pressure washer is more than enough to get any wheel covered in brake dust spotless.

  • @yogo2956
    @yogo2956 8 днів тому

    For heavily soiled and neglected wheel just use the P&S neat. As for regular cleaning even 1:7 dilution will clean it easily. Recommend to use a form srpayer instead of regular sprayer.

  • @MikeBee77
    @MikeBee77 16 днів тому

    Awesome video, glad I came across this comparison. I have used brake buster and Purple Power, didn’t like them like that. Will have to try Dark Fury.

  • @ZacharyPerezIsZacchuu
    @ZacharyPerezIsZacchuu 20 днів тому +3

    I can not use dark fury as a pre-spray on gloss wheels and ceramic coated wheels due to how caustic it is. I don't use brake buster either though.

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 20 днів тому +2

      @@ZacharyPerezIsZacchuu yep, Dark Fury and the actually effective alkaline products are way too strong. The iron remover types are safest for both you and the wheel finish.

    • @ZacharyPerezIsZacchuu
      @ZacharyPerezIsZacchuu 20 днів тому +2

      @chrisbradley3224 correct, but I understand the use of the stronger chemicals in cases such as these. My clientele is just different

    • @victoryensured7137
      @victoryensured7137 17 днів тому

      @@chrisbradley3224 Iron removers are prone to deteriorate brake components a LOT, accelerate rust and so on, i don't use them at all, i prefer higher alkaline or ph neutral shampoo. Do a smiple test, on a steel rack spray a bit of iron remover and leave it there, see what happens (i know we flush it with water, but still used regulary causes rusting of braking components, seen this a lot)

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 17 днів тому

      @@victoryensured7137 That's not true, it does not cause corrosion if rinsed.

  • @LouMichaels-k3u
    @LouMichaels-k3u 3 дні тому

    How about testing dark fury against Manic rim and tire cleaner ??

  • @charlied7886
    @charlied7886 19 днів тому

    For years I've been using Brown Royal in the same manner & it's never let me down. It's not as widely available as the Superior products, (which are very good & economical) but it's a phenomenal product, nonetheless. Though a number of individuals are bagging Dark Fury because of its pH level, these same individuals are conveniently omitting that Dark Fury is an inhibited high pH cleaner with a surfactant chemistry that prevents pitting & damaging when used as recommended.

  • @billtaglia2865
    @billtaglia2865 19 днів тому

    I use both wheel cleaners. The problem is that I have agitate with brushes and other scrubbers as being just a diy’er on my own vehicles, I can’t hook up my pressure washer every time I was a vehicle.

  • @archermark29
    @archermark29 21 день тому +1

    Great video Luke and Happy New Year. I have never used Dark Fury but after watching several demo videos it seems to be a good overall product. I currently use Brake Buster but I am not a pro, just a weekend warrior and my wheels never get that 😂dirty and I tend to wash my car pretty regularly so I haven't had to use anything harsher than P&S to clean the wheels. After my gallon of Brake Buster is depleted maybe I'll try Dark Fury. Thanks for the great info.

  • @user-ri3bf4or5y
    @user-ri3bf4or5y 20 днів тому

    Another great training video. Your videos are always relatable and sincere. I've used Dark Fury on my Hyundai wheels straight out of the 16oz spray bottle and it left some black staining or wore the finish off so now I am afraid to use it. Any ideas what I may have done wrong to cause. this? You use Dark Fury for so many areas with ease and I would like to do the same. Thank you, David

  • @clintonmccool2330
    @clintonmccool2330 21 день тому +12

    Not a fair comparison WHATSOEVER.
    The pH level of Dark Fury is significantly higher than Brake Buster. Brake Buster has a pH of about 10, whereas Dark Fury is marketed as highly alkaline with a pH level above 12 (The technical data sheet doesn't state the exact pH, only that it is above 12).
    So OF COURSE these two will not perform the same.
    It would be the same as comparing a pH neutral shampoo to an APC for cleaning power, and then trashing the pH neutral shampoo because it doesn't clean as thoroughly.
    So for dirty wheels, dark fury would probably be best. But for someone like myself with ceramic coated wheels that never get too dirty, I prefer to use P&S as it will do less damage to the ceramic coating.

    • @ramqo
      @ramqo 21 день тому +4

      That’s why he talks about diluting it down so much your almost never gonna use either of them straight up since for many cases it’s over kill if your are dealing with coated wheels you know you can push a dilution closer 15:1

    • @captindan5460
      @captindan5460 21 день тому +4

      It’s a fair comparison since he was testing a well known go to wheel cleaner that ranges around $30 a gallons compared to a wheel cleaner a lot of people don’t know about that around $25 a gallon. Also him doing P&S at 1:5 would means the panel impact should be a higher PH

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 20 днів тому

      Brake buster doesn't do jack on wheels, that's the truth. Sodium hydroxide is dangerous but not due to carcinogenicity.

    • @Pnasty1337
      @Pnasty1337 20 днів тому +1

      cope cope cope. We are human beings who spend our money to buy and use products to get results. These are direct market competitors in the same pricing bracket. You can just dilute DF to a weak and strong concentration and negate buying 2 separate products while also saving money.
      Analogy: I want to get drunk (clean my wheels). Two beers are on the shelf for the same price (2 wheel cleaners), one has 8% ABV, and the other has 4% ABV (pH blah blah). You would be an idiot to buy the 4% beer to accomplish your goal, when you can get the job done for less money with the stronger beer.

    • @kirkwilson5900
      @kirkwilson5900 20 днів тому

      ​@@Pnasty1337beer 🍺 analogy 👌 that helps the uneducated. Just saying. Thank you!

  • @DasJav
    @DasJav 20 днів тому +2

    Even non-diluted Brake Buster is not an effective cleaner. For a wheel and tire that is not too dirty, I'm sure it would be fine, though. I do like separate chemicals for my wheels and tires. I live an a dusty area and I need something that can cut through the dirt. My favorite is still Eagle One All Wheel and Tire Cleaner. I stopped buying it because it's expensive and hard to find.

  • @KonstanTribbetts
    @KonstanTribbetts 20 днів тому

    Love your videos! sadly 1 gallon of Dark Fury is around £90 (around $110) here in the UK ☹ would much rather have one product (different dilutions) than many.
    Have been very happy with brake buster for upto medium level brake dust.
    Medium to bad brake dust i would use Koch Chemie Magic Wheel Cleaner.
    Bad+ Labocosmetica SIDERO for the win.

  • @reelinitin1
    @reelinitin1 15 днів тому

    Dark Fury is also the best Bug remover I have used.

  • @nickb1690
    @nickb1690 19 днів тому

    Great video. I have a 4Runner with the flat black TRD wheels . Not sure if it’s flat black paint or flat anodized. Would Dark Fury be safe on these ? Thanks in advance.

  • @atalk143
    @atalk143 20 днів тому +2

    I fell for the hype and bought a gallon of Brake Buster. Big waste of money as the pre-wash results were not very good. With agitation, the results were no different than using normal car soap. I haven't used Dark Fury as I have moved on to Adams Wheel and Tire Cleaner (purple stuff). I am extremely happy with that product but will definitely give Dark Fury a shot afterwards.

    • @dooder126
      @dooder126 20 днів тому +1

      Same. I’ve basically stopped using wheel cleaner now that I’ve got a nearly full gallon of pos brake buster, can’t justify buying another gallon of sonax 😅

    • @flawsandslns
      @flawsandslns 14 днів тому

      @@dooder126 so i should just get dark fury basically?

  • @davypig571
    @davypig571 19 днів тому

    I still haven't found something to take off whatever is on a Camry TRDs black wheels. It only has 13k miles on it now but this has been a pain from the beginning. Even with a high psi gas pressure washer to help I am left with wheels that only look good in the dark of night. I've never had a problem before on any other vehicle. I am considering powder coating them gloss black as Toyota should have done from the beginning. All the black on the car is shiny, why full black wheels Toyo why? Did they get advice from Harley Davidson who loves to mix stuff inappropriately like gloss and matte or flat black?

  • @toshi_t2m
    @toshi_t2m 21 день тому +12

    Agree, I have used P&S and it was a waste of money. I use Adams wheel cleaner, so far so good.👍

    • @robertorlando1484
      @robertorlando1484 21 день тому +1

      Same moved on from break buster to Adams wheel and tire. Decent jump in performance

    • @alanf5351
      @alanf5351 20 днів тому +1

      Do you use Adam’s tire and wheel cleaner full strength without dilution as per their instructions? I just bought some and used it full strength but now worried if cost effective that way. Wonder if it can be diluted and still work to remove browning on sidewalls and brake dust on wheels.

    • @toshi_t2m
      @toshi_t2m 20 днів тому +1

      I dilute it 1:5 in a foam spray bottle and it works well.

    • @dieselrigs1
      @dieselrigs1 20 днів тому +1

      I also use Adam’s Polishes Tire ( undiluted and wheel and It works wonders I wouldn’t use it on certain Rims like chrome there is a Video on Adam’s Polishes UA-cam about different tire cleaners

    • @kirkwilson5900
      @kirkwilson5900 20 днів тому

      ​@alanf5351 I like adams at 3 (water) to 1 (adams) and buying it on sale (it goes on sale often) and in gallon quantity it's still not as affordable as dark fury with higher dilution rates.

  • @malachi2371
    @malachi2371 20 днів тому

    What are you guys think the pH level is of dark fury at 10 to 1? And at 10 to 1, does it take you off ceramic coating?

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 19 днів тому +1

      pH is logarithmic (log10) so at 10:1 it will be approximately 1 less. at 100:1 it will be 2 less, at 1000:1 it will be 3 less. This goes for all chemicals.

    • @malachi2371
      @malachi2371 19 днів тому

      As I understand it, Dark Fury comes 4-1 in a spray bottle and the Ph may be over 14. So what is the pH of it if it’s at 10-1?

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 19 днів тому

      @@malachi2371 Around 13

    • @malachi2371
      @malachi2371 18 днів тому

      @ thank you

  • @dustinmcghie3979
    @dustinmcghie3979 18 днів тому

    Two things here. First, I noticed you pre-rinsed the first wheel but not the second. Not sure if that makes a difference but still. Second is context. What was the location history of these wheels? Tire rotations could have been neglected and a pair of these wheels may have been on the front and not cleaned for an unknown amount of time accumulating caked on brake dust. I’m not defending the products, just saying.

  • @brandonelliott5345
    @brandonelliott5345 21 день тому

    I just got a gallon of brake buster and iv tried Adams and they don’t do anything to my wheels. Dark fury seems to be stronger and cheaper so I’ll be only buying gallons of that from here on out.

  • @noelbgood8845
    @noelbgood8845 21 день тому +4

    The bad part that nobody talks about is that the non acid wheel cleaners also have really bad carcinogenic stuff also.. sodium hydroxide or something like that cant remember exact name.

    • @jamotto1569
      @jamotto1569 21 день тому +5

      Brake Buster doesn't contain Sodium Hydroxide but dark fury does.

    • @noelbgood8845
      @noelbgood8845 21 день тому +1

      @ good to know might have to look into that

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 20 днів тому

      Sodium hydroxide is just lye. Everything is carcinogenic including bagels and bbq meats.

  • @otarsulava
    @otarsulava 20 днів тому +1

    Spray 9 at Walmart 4$ works great on wheels... ✌️

  • @alexdodd6768
    @alexdodd6768 20 днів тому

    Can’t get dark fury in the uk so hmm

  • @TheGodofSEO
    @TheGodofSEO 20 днів тому +1

    I just started using Chem X Witches Brew and hoooly crap. 🤣🤣 it’s insane

  • @VictorHernandez-nt3tw
    @VictorHernandez-nt3tw 14 днів тому

    Good stuff

  • @frederickjohnson3777
    @frederickjohnson3777 21 день тому +5

    Maybe brake buster is just good for light maintenance cleanings. Great video

    • @BigNaisuBob
      @BigNaisuBob 21 день тому

      Agree. Depends on need. Like I care for my cars myself so BB would be perfectly fine with maintenance. If neglected like many clients/customers have, then might need something stronger.

    • @Pnasty1337
      @Pnasty1337 20 днів тому

      And maybe you are coping. This was an excellent demonstration and shows BB does almost nothing compared to DF. A light spritz of any APC and car shampoo will do as good of a job as BB if not better. Buying a product as weak as BB for "Maintenance washes" when you can just "ultra dilute" a superior and cheaper product makes absolutely no sense. The corrosive inhibitors in BB are an advertised bonus but I am not sure how much of that is just marketing BS.

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 20 днів тому

      It's not even good for that, you can use soap for that. The surfactants in BB do not penetrate road films or brake dust. If I have to agitate it's no better than CarPro Reset.

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 20 днів тому

      @@Pnasty1337 The corrosion inhibitors in BB are in fact to inhibit corrosion induced by the caustic ingredients of Brake Buster, so they are not effective like most people think they are. They just make BB safe to use. It's not like a rust proofing spray like some want to believe.

  • @evelynfarfellwooosh1219
    @evelynfarfellwooosh1219 18 днів тому

    You did not spray into the inner barrel 4:37 vs 1:11, I think you're bias because of that.

  • @hawgs74
    @hawgs74 21 день тому +42

    Superior must be paying this guy really well.

    • @beijingbiden5931
      @beijingbiden5931 21 день тому +7

      Why? If it's a good cheap product why are they paying him? He shows the results.

    • @ramqo
      @ramqo 21 день тому +1

      It’s just good and cheap for how far you can stretch compared to P&S and others

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 20 днів тому

      Brake Buster is really bad and barely effective. I came to the same conclusion years ago. It's pimped by people PAID by P&S actually.

    • @jpruitt546
      @jpruitt546 20 днів тому +5

      The video proves the point pretty well I think. Seems you didn't watch it or you are a P&S fan boi. I have been using superior products for years due to the cost and they are dilutable. 25 bucks for a gallon that you can make 10 gallons of product seems like a good deal. But seems you are lost.

    • @jimmyqballs
      @jimmyqballs 20 днів тому

      Maybe, but he found a good product line and is standing by it. What he's saying makes sense. I found a similar product called Flash Brown Royal years ago, it might even be the same thing and it was amazing. Beat anything else I had at the time, even when heavily diluted

  • @HighTideEDC
    @HighTideEDC 18 днів тому

    Brake Buster is a horrible product for heavily dusted wheels. Dark Fury is the way. It’s truly a great product for the DIY detailer and also professionals. Brake buster is more for those cars that don’t get driven often as a maintenance product, and it doesn’t even excel at that.

  • @kevinelia7123
    @kevinelia7123 21 день тому

    Happy new year to you. I am watching your videos more and more. They’re very educational and you’re the second of two detailers that have told the truth about wheel and cleaners. Dark Fury is economical, and it is my only wheel and tire cleaner. I am getting rid of overstock of glove box items that I have received and once they’re exhausted, this will be my main go to cleaner. Your videos are nice and brief as opposed to the ones that go on and on about nothing when we out here want to learn the easiest effective economical productive ways to do our jobs. Thank you. I’ve caveat to using it as an exterior cleaner works extremely well like you said on the lower panels and bug gut removal.

    • @kirkwilson5900
      @kirkwilson5900 20 днів тому +1

      Nicely put. And I have a bunch of other cleaners to power thru also that have been trials and mediocre at best. As a mobile detailer I need efficient and economical as well. One of the keys to success

  • @isaacstacoify
    @isaacstacoify 20 днів тому

    Finally, somebody said it. I don't understand the cult-like following P&S has.

  • @adrianmoore3118
    @adrianmoore3118 20 днів тому

    Bilt hamber wheel cleaner is the best on the market.

  • @rosmarin2438
    @rosmarin2438 21 день тому +4

    KCx Alkali Wheel Cleaner

  • @genadiolopez8281
    @genadiolopez8281 20 днів тому

    I've never been a fan of P&S. I agree their wheel cleaner is a no for me.

  • @Airpaycheck
    @Airpaycheck 20 днів тому

    I like how they spelled Brake wrong on the label. Currently use Adams, will have to give this a try.

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 20 днів тому

      Still calls the product 'Rage' in the same paragraph on the label.

  • @Dee--Jay
    @Dee--Jay 20 днів тому +1

    When Brake Buster first came out, I bought it because of the hype but once I received it and diluted it 4 to 1. I immediately knew I wasted my money

  • @hartlanddetailer5670
    @hartlanddetailer5670 19 днів тому

    Yes, you don't have to spend a lot of $$$ on chemicals. If you're in a business, it makes good sense to get the most "Bang for the Buck'. Dilutable chemicals will save you money, if they work as advertised? A popular UA-camr who sells his own chemicals claims his are the best and has told me that (re:comments) and he does not know what chemicals I use? So Buyer Beware, a $99 chemical does not mean it works better than a $9 chemical...

  • @btbd2785
    @btbd2785 13 днів тому

    That's the problem with UA-cam in general. There is so much hype to help sell a product. I'm tired of that!

  • @TheMobileDetailShop1296
    @TheMobileDetailShop1296 21 день тому

    I use superior products .they are so cost effective.

  • @demetri78
    @demetri78 15 днів тому

    😮

  • @ArroyoGrandeDetail
    @ArroyoGrandeDetail 21 день тому +4

    The answer should be Dark Fury… awful results in real life. And that’s at 4:1

  • @WolfAbarth
    @WolfAbarth 18 днів тому

    Yeah, but Brake Buster is 'cool' and Dark Fury isn't ;)

  • @JCoova87
    @JCoova87 21 день тому +1

    Dark fury is just the way to go

  • @michaellegere4823
    @michaellegere4823 17 днів тому

    You talk way too fast. Watching your video was exhausting.

  • @AnthonyJung-o4y
    @AnthonyJung-o4y 21 день тому +5

    Superior products fan boy. I would never hire you if I knew you used these cheap products on my vehicle!

    • @brandonelliott5345
      @brandonelliott5345 21 день тому +4

      Usually cheaper means worse in everything, but Iv bought way too much expensive detail stuff and superior is working the same for a fraction of the price for me outside of high end paste waxes.

    • @tuned_in_from_baltimore
      @tuned_in_from_baltimore 21 день тому +2

      it’s not about the products it’s about the knowledge if you have the knowledge you can achieve better results than a detailer who think their name brand products or name brand equipment is everything…only amateurs think like that because PROfessionals can get the job done with any product and way less equipment because of the knowledge they have

    • @jpruitt546
      @jpruitt546 20 днів тому +2

      So you base your end result on the amount of money spent on the job? Seems a little dumb. They are great products made to dilute and overall save money. Guess you are one of those people who has to flex based off of cost. 😂

  • @Gutz2399
    @Gutz2399 21 день тому +3

    Brake buster is so trash

  • @desobrien3827
    @desobrien3827 21 день тому

    Your fancy P & S Brake Duster is an very expensive & effective wheel cleaner... Read the MSDS people!
    Ideally, just hose the wheels & just use ph neutral dishwashing liquid & hot water...and work harder!
    If you want easier add, ammonia to the mix in a spray bottle, soak and scrub with a microfibre cleaning glove!
    (instant cheap P&S Brake Cleaner) and before you bag me, try it!
    All "very effective" cleaners are generally either acidic or alkaline & corrosive "over time"! There are no shortcuts in the long term preservation of components and painfully use polish to protect the paint finish! Dirt & dust bonds to the micro scratches!
    Wheel cleaner is just "phosphoric acid plus detergent" wheel cleaners that most people use attacks & removes the zinc plating on brake mounting brackets & corrodes the aluminium including the wheels & paint over time...

  • @tonav1
    @tonav1 20 днів тому +1

    Dark fury is some total crap, I gave my gallon to a friend. It’s total trash!

  • @LividAxis
    @LividAxis 21 день тому

    Happy new year to you. I am watching your videos more and more. They’re very educational and you’re the second of two detailers that have told the truth about wheel and cleaners. Dark Fury is economical, and it is my only wheel and tire cleaner. I am getting rid of overstock of glove box items that I have received and once they’re exhausted, this will be my main go to cleaner. Your videos are nice and brief as opposed to the ones that go on and on about nothing when we out here want to learn the easiest effective economical productive ways to do our jobs. Thank you. I’ve caveat to using it as an exterior cleaner works extremely well like you said on the lower panels and bug gut removal.