Revelation, the (missing) Temple, and Eden - Paul Lamicela
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- The rich imagery of Revelation contains a multitude of connections to the rest of the story of the Bible.
Paul Lamicela helps us explore fascinating details in Revelation 21 and 22 to help us answer questions such as: Why is there no temple in heaven? or What are we supposed to learn from all the measurements John gives?
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Quite inspirational! We Western people in the modern era simply miss so much of what the Eastern Biblical writers intended to communicate. Paul has led our thinking to good places, connections between the Testaments that we do not see at first reading. Have our hurried and harried lifestyles hindered this kind of deep thought? Discovering these connections requires quietness, leaning in, and spending time with the text. This snapshot dealing with a few chapters in Revelation and Ezekiel informs me that quite a few more Old Testament/New Testament connections await discovery.
Thank you for this reflection, Chester.
It's really nothing new, if you've studied escatalogy in depth allegorizing and spiritualizing of prophecy started with Origin and Augustine coming from the Greek school at Alexandria.
It's Catholic theology that's been going on for many many years.
Pretty sad.
Isaiah 34:4 is just one example of apocalyptic literature that uses visual imagery "non-literally" (ie. the heavens didn't literally roll up) to describe an event that had major consequences, in this instance the fall of the Babylonian Empire. You're right, there's nothing new about interpreting apocalyptic literature according to its genre, and to safely conclude that most of Matthew 24 was fulfilled before that generation passed away.
@MD-ef9fl Thanks for the response
I fully understand and agree with your assessment of the Isaiah passage.The writer of Revelation does the same thing on occasion, "I saw something like or as". But for the most part he's using specific numbers and explaining things that are going to come to pass, I see absolutely no reason to try and allegorize all of Revelation.
Why use exact numbers all throughout Revelation?
Does the eternal state have a literal sea? Does the eternal state have literal tears and death? Is there even a literal hell?
I've heard so many crazy explanations of what people think old Testament prophecy and Revelation means I find it humorous but also very sad.
Correct hermeneutics is extremely important when reading any scripture but much more so with prophecy.
Prophecy was literally fulfilled at Christ's first coming and plenty more to be fulfilled at His second coming.
As to Mathew 24 I would say that is a matter of opinion.
Blessings
@edpeachey2015 Two points. First, the majority of numbers in Revelation are round not specific, the most obvious example being the millennium (1000 years). Second, once we affirm that there is symbolism in apocalyptic literature, is there a method or standard we use in deciphering which is which. A unique hermeneutical parallel is the "literal" interpretation of turning the other cheek (Mt 5:39) but not taking the command to cut off our hand or pluck out our eye if it offends us (Mt 5:29-30) literally. How do we parse these especially since they are found near each other in text of identical genre?
@@MD-ef9flNo further discussion after your first point. Tells me all I need to know.
@edpeachey2015 I agree that it's better to only discuss with people that we agree with. That's the reason the folks from Wellsprings Mennonite started this channel.