FREE AI Music Generator Beats Suno!? Udio Guide and Comparison
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- A new free AI music generator so incredible people are calling it the Sora of ai music, a ChatGPT moment for AI music, 2x better than Suno AI and more. I do a deep dive to see if the hype is warranted... it is.
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Summary:
Udio released a free AI music generator that rivals Suno v3. Udio has higher fidelity and audio quality than Suno, and far better AI vocals. The AI singers sound incredibly authentic. Text to music is seeing insane progress with Udio and Suno leading the charge. I do a full tutorial on how to use Udio for AI audio. I include an udio vs suno comparison since I released a Suno tutorial recently and have experimented with both in depth. Enjoy your AI music creations!
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:41 Prompting overview
1:27 Blues examples and comparison
3:26 Rap examples and comparison
5:15 Mind-blowing example
7:00 Noisee for music videos
7:56 Rising Sun Gospel
8:55 Noisee reference image
9:28 Alien Ocean
10:06 Disco Funk
10:25 Pop Punk
10:52 Classical
11:08 Broadway
11:43 Classic Pop
12:27 Non-music examples
13:33 Remix
15:00 More tips
15:40 Limitations
16:43 Thoughts on the future of music
20:50 Futurepedia - Фільми й анімація
I really appreciate your videos because you not only provide a "how to", but also discuss the extremely important philosophical considerations. Great stuff, man!
As a full time musician…. This is truly unbelievable. You nailed it that anyone who says “bro, I know this is totally AI generated” is lying. Pretty mind-blowing stuff
So far. The AI stuff I’ve heard has sounded synthetic. Rick Beato’s kids can seem to hear it too. lol. It’s only going to get better though.
I just came here from a 7 day trip, "creating" a complete metal-album. love it!
some minor issues i came along:
1. the engine ignores some prompts completely, e.g. add a "storm" or "rain" effect to an intro with nothing else. so, the later you add the intro to the whole song the less will it be composed.
2. female / male vocals are complete randomly used or even ignored.
3. as it is mentioned in this video: chorusses are rarely the same. could give the song a more natural touch, though. (if the differences are not too extreme)
4. add [piano solo] and udio will give you a guitar solo instead...oO..or a vocalist
5. instrumental intro tend to have singing bots in a fantasy language^^ after 15 seconds.
6. The creation of the CD Coverartwork crashes if the song has too much text.
a. i would like to have (besides the cutting tool) an option to shorten or stretch the single parts.
b. and an option to modify the whole song structure after finishing it. like text, prompts, [x], and so on
And futurepedia, thx for the video :)
a question: is there a list which things i can put in brackets?
If suno was higher fidelity it would win hands down. If Udio solved the consistency issues it would win hands down.
Wow. I was feeling depressed because of my circumstances. Nothing was shifting my mood... then your video came up. Now I can't wait to play with this. Thank you.
Glad it could help! I’ve been having a ton of fun with it
Have fun and stay strong. Depression always fades.
@@insurancecasino5790Thank you, skull friend.
In my experience in using both Suno AI and Udio, I found Suno both easier to use for longer songs and better overall in terms of music and vocal composition and continuity within each song (remembering how the verse/chorus/ sounded earlier) whereas Udio's overall sound quality is better. Udio sounds less compressed/aliased in general as compared to Suno. This is especially apparent with orchestral music which on Suno can sound like a low-bit-rate mp3 while Udio sounds nearly "CD quality."
That’s a really good analysis, sums up my experience pretty well. Definitely depends on what you want to use it for, but I prefer the experience in Suno most of the time, even though the fidelity is better from Udio
The music quality in Udio is definitely a lot better, both in the audio quality and compositions.
Suno ai music is good
I agree but I decided to remaster all my SUNO songs before uploading them somewhere, this helped A LOT.
@@Snakeblood1969 how did you re-master? I saw an an Ai thing somewhere, which is now mixed amongst my 300 or so Ai related tabs and booksmarks lol, and it apparently has the ability to remaster the sound quality of music and audio. i.e. increasing khz bitrate etc.
The human voice sounds rich when recorded/mixed well - but the key with AI is to not make voices sound 'tinny' when shifting registers and keys. BUT it's getting there. Love this video.
I’m blown away how well mixed and mastered these sound.
Multitrack AI music will be the game changer for this industry and whoever does that first will win the game
Up
can already split songs into tracks online using AI, does a pretty good job for TikTok level music. Band In A Box also reverse engineers songs. But yeah, studio grade vocals would be amazing
Why do we need that? What could we (the 'industry') do with this multitrack? AI will be able to arrange, structure, mix and master it better than you and then there is no game to win, this game is now over and in the space of a hobby like fishing is to commercial fishing. Legally who owns the stuff that comes out of these AI sites also, not the button presser I think, can you copyright it - I don't think so as far as my knowledge of music copyright goes.
Inpainting Udio
I just learned about RipX DAW Pro which does just that. Separate all instruments and vocals. I tried their trial version last night and it is truly amazing!
Amazing!! Wow and yes blown away by Suno and Udio and big thanks for Noisee, am creating some vids now 🎉
Been having lots of fun with all of them!
Where’s Noisee? Cant find it either in appstore nor google.
is it okay to use for your youtube? Who owns the final project and music?
Happy birthday, Irvin!
That's mind-blowing. Thank you for presenting those tools👍
Udio definitely helped me more to create unique songs for my channel.
Suno and Udio should join forces!
sunudio!
13:04 "Extrarrestial" craft lading :D
As a creator of tracks with a jazzy vibe Udio works great!
First AI came for artists, and i said nothing because i don’t draw… then they came for photographers, and i said nothings because I don’t take pictures. Then they came for songwriters and there was no one left to speak for me.
you sound like a horse breeding in 1908.
First AI came for artist, and i said nothing because i don’t draw… then they came for photographers, and i said nothings because I don’t take pictures. Then they came for musicians and I said nothing because I don't sing. Then they came for coders and there was no one left to speak for me.
Cringe.
Lol, love this
@@hotshot6674 If something goes over your head.. "cringe"
This is the best video about AI Music on UA-cam right now.
hi. If we use the songs we produce here on UA-cam, will we have problems with copyright?
thank you, very informative
Thanks for the Info. But question is will the youtube channel be monetized if i generate song with Suno?
From what I have read I think you can monetize it if you payed for Suno. Suno "owns the songs" if you just have the free version.
The part where they had Udio just doing comedy and sports commentary and such just blew my mind. The ASMR made me chuckle. But yeah, singing is so hard that when you can sing, you can do anything.
Artificial human voices have been solved.
Man!!! Delta sorrow touched my heart.
Great help, thx a lot !
In UDIO it is much more difficult to make a good long composition than in SUNO, but if you try hard, you can achieve simply amazing results. Using my own lyrics, I made several tracks in different styles. And some of them, I dare say, are really good.
Alternative rock in the spirit of Skunk Anansie: ua-cam.com/video/To_ZpgnUaME/v-deo.html
Progressive rock slightly reminiscent of Porcupine Tree: ua-cam.com/video/Coe8J7Q7msQ/v-deo.html
Progressive metal similar to a mixture of Mastodon and Haken: ua-cam.com/video/wmvs2K3mwkE/v-deo.html
Alternative metal vaguely reminiscent of Tool and Deftones: ua-cam.com/video/I1FpXsCPYTw/v-deo.html
Progressive rock in the spirit of early Genesis: ua-cam.com/video/NuCkiDaUykE/v-deo.html
Alternative rock in the style of Alanis Morissette: ua-cam.com/video/_hZS6l2y39w/v-deo.html
Eric progressive rock with female vocals: ua-cam.com/video/XHefMS2zGmM/v-deo.html
It's CRAZYYYYY how much of a Nas this sounds like 3:48 :D
Too cool! I jumped right on it, and gave it a try. Wow!
What does the future hold if AI can be used to make music and videos ?
Don’t get me wrong, this is crazy tech. However as of right now there are a few things that I find AI music does consistently that can set it apart:
1 - it has very little idea of song structure, often putting emphasis in weird places and structuring lines in unconventional ways. (It can have a cool effect, though)
2 - AI tends to layer the vocals a lot more than normal songs (I assume to cover up slight inconsistencies in the voices) and the mixing is always a little instrumental-heavy (likely for the same reason)
Again, this is still crazy tech, but as of right now those are a couple things that set human made music apart.
As a singer can I use this tech to create the backing music ? Then what can I put it into to add my voice ?
I am a song writer and this has really helped to make my demos to present my songs I write to the artist, if I choose to use an artist.
That's awesome. Great that you still approach real artists.
AI implementation in the plugin/Daw will come soon
For sure. Will be awesome once you can do everything on one platform
Not gonna lie, as a musician myself, the thought of AI cranking out radio-ready hits does make me a little nervous for the future of human artists. But you make a fair point that true artistry will always have a space. Maybe this leads to dope human-AI collaborations?
Can we use the music in our content though? Or will we get copyright like most of the other ai music generators
Good point
i would like to know too.
@@kiapandora2510 no its copyrighted unless you pay for a subscription.... issue with that is once you stop paying for the subscfription all your content will get a copyright..... so
Hi do you know if i can use the songtext from Udio Users and make new Songs with it?cause in udio u cant Write to a Creative and ask
Also, I could not figure out how to start new section of a song in Udio at certain time like
it would be cool if you did a updated version
i couldnt't sleep because this was way too amazing to use haha xD
Me too 😜 haha ;D
It's all getting close but you can definitely tell that it is off quality wise and mixing wise but most people will probably not notice except mix engineers and music producers. Is there an AI that can generate the same solid vocal and then be able to export the stems for use in a DAW?
like your prompts they are good
Impressive! I did two songs with my own words
I've already impressed clients with this - THANK YOU!
A lot of thanx 👍
Wow, a acompetitive alternative to Suno already?!? Scary for the whole music industry, from Berklee and Juilliard to Avid and Waves and of course all instrumentalists, media composers, songwriters and singers. One ring to rule them all.
Anything like STABLE DIFFUSION which runs locally for THIS MUSIC GENERATION?
The number one problem has been noted by a lot of us who write songs. It's a deal breaker for me. I don't care how realistic it sounds if I can't write a full song with consistent choruses. I still prefer Suno. ***UPDATE: Issues fixed, now using Udio 100% of the time. Suno started running downhill as fast as possible to a point where it now often sounds horrible.
Then do your work and edit or try again.
@@StephanBuchin I've done over 100 songs for my channel, so I do work and edit all the time. But I wasn't alone in my opinion. Before it was fixed, it had more issues that just inconsistent choruses and I was fine with Suno. But that and other issues have since been fixed plus new features were added while Suno rapidly declined. Now, I prefer Udio.
How do you get udio to do non singing stuff?
The idea of "musical brands" using AI to pump out songs, then hiring artists to perform them on tour is both genius and dystopian at the same time. I could totally see that model taking off though, as sketch as it sounds. Hopefully transparency about the AI involvement at least.
Site appears to be down. Can't seem to login, keeps coming up with errors. Pretty amazing overall though.
You can hear it. It sounds synthetic but it’ll get better quick.
Anyone can tell me how they did the non-music like sport analysis ?
Omg I can finally have the asmr I want and not the horrible ones (or the same ones I have watched hundred times) yipi
Thanks great vid ai is just amazing
Right now I'm using suno but I'm willing to try other ai tools
I have been making punk industrial techno, heavy metal on suno and it takes me a few tries but I got great results (the singing not the best at times), But with udio so far I'm having a hard time making something that "new", or making longer songs, in suno I'm making at times some 9 minutes electronic songs that are great beginning to end. Hopefully Udio is gonna get there too.
To be clear you didn’t actually make anything
@@RubenMillsOfficial I composed the song so I made something? I was mostly trying to find the beat to go with it
@@Noellexafael I guess that depends on where you want to draw the line when defining making something. To me typing in some lyrics and rearranging what the AI does doesn’t qualify as being an artist, but you do you. Maybe you did more than that. The weird thing is people won’t know the difference especially when listening on phone speakers, not to mention when the quality improves.
@@Noellexafael You are completely unaware of the AI's creative process - it's not considered "composing" when you request someone else to do it for you. The AI generates something like"sample collages" using data sourced from non-copyrighted material found on the Internet. Your use of AI is essentially not even on par with the least skilled DJs from the early '90s, who were never considered musicians/producers. If you wish to convey yourself artistically, why not learn the proper methods? Authenticity is crucial in music - this is merely a feeble effort to mask the absence of creative inspiration, Music is fckn human skill and art.
@@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv I strongly disagree, what is different from that or a fashion designer that doesn't draw or sew ?
Some huge fashion designers only have a vision and they get someone to draw and make the garment for then and what I do is exactly the same. I have my lyrics and I have my vision and I use the aí to make it for me. It's not like I type rock and get what I want, I'm playing with a new style that is very underground so it takes me several times to get something of my like.
Several real artists are just the face, they have producers and composers that do everything for them, I'm very involved in the production of the music I'm making. I wouldn't go as far as calling myself a musician but it has some credit to it if I'm the one composing no? Makes me at least more hands on than several famous artists.
Wow, wow, wow! for decades I have dreamt of this kind of software and now it's here. It's beyond my expectations.
Imagine an endlessly generated playlist, where you can press "like" so it learns and generates more songs like this in the future and if you press "dislike" it generates less of this in the future. Getting better and better, running on millions of humans to train the AI, ...wait are we the tool-user or the tool?
Have your tried BFF AI? Has all the tools you want
15:40 "the nr 1 problem... chorus" SOLUTION: use=> [chorus repeat]
I'm waiting for traditional tracks to add, chop and splice from other songs that were generated, then let the AI do its magic from there. That would be "true" AI music generating. Can't believe that is not a thing yet.
Has anyone tried making reggaeton? How good was the result?
I tried it's awesome you should try 👌it can sing in multiple language too
I wonder if u can use the same singer across the Generations
That’s what all the posers are hoping for for sure. That way they can fully pretend.
I like udio, but Suno is better when it comes to doing full songs. I've been using it to re imagine songs I've written. Genius stuff
What do you mean songs you wrote? You mean the lyrics and then you just let it do whatever with it?
@@RubenMillsOfficial yes. Ive taken unreleased lyrics and even songs I've recorded and re imagined them in different genres.
Can you pay to have the copyright on these songs? Can you download stems and midi?
No, it will never happen. One Day this will develop into a shop for regular consumers - no musicians needed anymore.
tried 5 different prompts and crashed every time ???
It's perfect for video game tracks and advertisement jingles!
I was today years old when I found out The Wiggles genre is pub rock
We are getting out the hood with this one $
One thing I don't like about Udio is that it's hard to go from say a female singing a hook to a male rapping without it becoming the same female voice sing rapping. Suno handles this much better the majority of the time. The audio quality though is a huge factor in why I'm hooked on Udio right now though.
Yes it beats suno in many ways and their new addition Inpainting is even crazier.
It is difficult to get the right mood for classical music on Udio.
I Like Udio's Interface but notice a lot of the songs sound like they are stealing someone else voice. One song I heard on Udio sounded Like David Bowie.
You're wrong, I can definitely tell it's AI, but not because of the lyrics, phrasing or instrumentation. There's a tonne of phasing issues with current AI generated music, as well as mixing (and lack of mastering). Having said that, this is early days and I don't think it will be long before these things are resolved. As a composer I'm horrified but intrigued. It's an absolute marvel, with horrifying prospects.
Will A.I replace me and the rest of type beat producers?
AI music is not even boring anymore.
UDIO IS NOT WORKING FOR MANY OF US Does someone from here have this issue ?
Is the site just not working at all? For some reason I have to use a vpn every time I access it, not sure why
@@futurepedia_io That is correct is not working at all for me since yesterday I saw some posts in reddit where some other users have the same issue.
UA-camr Monzon Media shows you how to get consistent choruses.
Poor Seth
09:37 - GEMIDÂO DO ZAP [LOUD MOANING GIRL MEME]
Help!! Ai jobloss is the only thing I worry about anymore.
Not working . Constantly giving errors.
Really? I’ve been using it a ton with very few errors
I thought it was just me
@@futurepedia_io yes gave up after one hour of constant errors and finally unsubscribed. May be overloaded servers but definitely didnt like the first impression full of errors
Same. Site actually not working.
I don't know. Even in your examples, I felt every Suno song sounded better than every Udio song. Suno follows lyric inputs pretty well whereas my (limited) experience with Udio has it almost completely ignoring my prompts. I think that once one of these companies makes a generator that will follow lyrics to the tee AND will allow input of musical notes, they will have won. I've made hundreds of gens of a couple songs I'm working on and neither service will generate what's in my mind so these are just toys really where we can roll and get something fun but can't use them as tools.
Humans can’t compete with this. New regulation is required. They’re feeding all of humanity’s expression into a blender to spit out made-to-order songs built on the backs of everyone, but without compensation. That’s what I see at least (and I know I’m not alone).
finally someone who gets it !! people are truly stupid and brainwashed
I found udio to be very inconsistent when extending songs. Hard to create a longer song. Suno is way better at that.
Only reason i still use suno is that udio does not remember its own chorus, so repeating chorus is impossible unless you do it 30 seconds aftet the first one, nonsense
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:41 Prompting overview
1:27 Blues examples and comparison
3:26 Rap examples and comparison
5:15 Mind-blowing example
7:00 Noisee for music videos
7:56 Rising Sun Gospel
8:55 Noisee reference image
9:28 Alien Ocean
10:06 Disco Funk
10:25 Pop Punk
10:52 Classical
11:08 Broadway
11:43 Classic Pop
12:27 Non-music examples
13:33 Remix
15:00 More tips
15:40 Limitations
16:43 Thoughts on the future of music
20:50 Futurepedia
Cool! Hope you guys like Noisee!
Seems no one ever uses harder forms of "rock", why is that? Could it be that all A.I.s are bad at it. and what about "intros"? it ALWAYS places what sounds like vocals
Suno makes better, catchier, _music_ , Udio makes better quality and _voices_ .
That’s a good summary of it. They’re both awesome, but I think I have more fun in Suno
What I don’t like about you is that they want you to shout them out or - give them arbitration. So I think right now Suno is better because you can do whatever you want with your generated music and you don’t have to shout them out. Does anyone know of a good AI stem splitter that will also help us create notation? Because I do want to take these songs and make them more of my own and bright parts to it.
I for one, welcome our new AI beat master overlords.
My prediction is at some point the big music studios will start buying up all these AI music generators so they can claim rights to anything anyone makes.
It is free for 10 minutes.
Like Suno, udio hallucinates massively when trying to create something in other languages, for example in Russian. It creates stuff in some non-existing language, that it thinks resembles Russian, but it is senseless sounds. But it is funny nevertheless.
Udio is great
Going to just copy paste my dilemma. I felt a little nicer when I wrote this, so I'll keep my rage to copy and paste.
Been playing professional Bass and Drums for 20 years now. This is the beginning of a very dehumanizing future, fun stuff now but long term is something people don't take into consideration
Of course when new toys come out that is currently mind-blowing everyone is going to be so positive and defend it to the death. But this isn't my idea of something that will be a companion to help you expand your music. It is replacing your creativity and will make alot of people who already struggle with confidence they will get to that place they dream about as a musican, completely give up. Why spend a year of ups and downs as you are start from nothing but ideas in your mind and see them turn into complete songs. This will become the norm like everything else, our collective attention span is awful. Nothing slows down so anyone can catch their breath before something bigger and better arrives, its pretty unreal I don't see more people being realistic of the path this will most likey take for the majority of humans who lived a life already feeling left behind by society.
Where does that lead us? There is beauty in creation over time to see your final product and look back on the hard work. Those are moments that makes life have meaning. Family and those accomplishments that lets you show how hard you've worked as you publish who you were at that moment in your life, captured through the language of music (something I beleive is such a beautiful way to say who you are and around the world its the language you don't need to learn too understand the meaning of why it was written). I really hope I'm wrong, but seeing people already pushing this so hard it doesn't matter about what I'm saying. Its becoming more impossible everyday to have anyone step back and realize this could push us completely out of the way in place of a prompt that takes less effort then making coffee in the morning. And its not just the music apps, its a frenzy to see if they can make AI for everything eventually that gives you the proud moments we hang on too. I know theirs amazing possibilities in this. But THINK. I'm more concerned about where we sit with these amazing creations. It's pretty F*cking low already. And it gives me a sense of sadness cause I know the feeling of not understanding where you are supposed to fit.
Be excited, just sharing a different perspective on what its making me feel.
Suno is still way better.
For music with vocal, I agree Suno is very good especially the voice sounds feels natural. But for instrumental no vocal, Udio is far better. I've tried orchestra with many vibes and theme, I shocked that it's not feels stiff like in Suno, just super duper realistic!
My limited experience with udio seems that suno makes much better music while udio does superior voices.