Nepo is Surprised as Vidit Remembers An INSANE 30 Moves Engine Line
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2023
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Me watching this video after struggling to memorize 10 moves of Ruy Lopez theory.😂
In a way, those moves are harder to get down. The opponent just has so many choices out of the opening. Once you're deeper in a sharp line, the opponent is much more limited.
Bruh 10 moves is literally the start of many lines in the Ruy Lopez
Bruh 10 moves is a lot.
Ezackly
After i came to know that people could memorise lines, my motivation to improve at chess reduced….
I always liked that people should use their own creativity to play the moves. Not some computer helped bihearted stuff
Ian Face expression man so good😂
like Naka
Vidit has really upped his game as of recent
vidit can work w/ magnus, wesley so, fabi & nepo to promote classical 9LX.
It's sad they never played each other in 9LX whether FIDE or st Louis. Nepo beat Alireza 1 of their 4 classical 9LX games and drew the other 3. Vidit & Alireza drew both of their classical 9LX games. So who knows who among Nepo, Vidit & Alireza is really the best at classical 9LX?
Is Vidit the biggest reason India would want classical 9LX?
Vidit beat Sergey Karjakin to get in the 2019 WFRCC quarter-finals. But then...
Wesley So & Fabi expectedly do better in classical than in rapid for both 9LX & chess. Now, I'm not familiar with Vidit but
- Wesley So does 30% better.
- Fabi does 40% better.
- VIDIT DOES 300% BETTER.
LIKE 50% CLASSICAL SCORE BUT 12.5% RAPID SCORE.
Vidit in 9LX
- is the top Indian classical player
- is the worst rapid player among the top 9 of the 2019 WFRCC.
- in classical ties for 2nd place w/ Fabi & Nepo behind Wesley So.
When is Tata Steel Classical Chess960 ? It should be a knockout where Vidit is seeded into the quarter-finals. It can be 60min, not 120min.
P.s. In the 2019 WFRCC, wesley so beat magnus in 3x classical in a row!
Question : When was the last time this happened in chess that someone lost 3x classical in a row in the finals of a FIDE or PCA WCC (or finals of knockouts candidates or semi-finals of a knockout WCC) ?
Answer : Vishy Anand beat Alexei Shirov in 2000.
2 whole decades Vishy's record stood - broken only in a variant!
Sources :
p1w4Rr-bC
p1w4Rr-bC
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JxIdCEj6_E8
JxIdCEj6_E8
JxIdCEj6_E8
its called memorizing moves from a program
@@jadezee6316If memorizing is so easy, every tom, dick, harry would have become a GM now. You have to remember 100s of variations to stand a chance to compete with these superGMs. I think these chess players are one of the most hardworking humans on the Earth, 8-10 hours a day on a daily basis where you have to use your brain all the time, no easy man.
@@RAJKUMARSINGH002 I think the memorization part is easy. For example, I can memorize hundreds of digits of pi. I think the hard part of Chess is when you can't memorize your way out of a problem...and have to rely on thinking-outside-the-box...although I am not sure whether those things really happen anymore in Chess since Chess engines are now the best players of Chess and lots of things in Chess use memorization of Chess Engine lines and stuff.
@@jadezee6316
Speaking of memorisation Vs talent
Is Vidit the biggest reason India would want classical 9LX?
Vidit beat Sergey Karjakin to get in the 2019 WFRCC quarter-finals. But then...
Wesley So & Fabi expectedly do better in classical than in rapid for both 9LX & chess. Now, I'm not familiar with Vidit but
- Wesley So does 30% better.
- Fabi does 40% better.
- VIDIT DOES 300% BETTER.
LIKE 50% CLASSICAL SCORE BUT 12.5% RAPID SCORE.
Vidit in 9LX
- is the top Indian classical player
- is the worst rapid player among the top 9 of the 2019 WFRCC.
- in classical ties for 2nd place w/ Fabi & Nepo behind Wesley So.
When is Tata Steel Classical Chess960 ? It should be a knockout where Vidit is seeded into the quarter-finals. It can be 60min, not 120min.
P.s. In the 2019 WFRCC, wesley so beat magnus in 3x classical in a row!
Question : When was the last time this happened in chess that someone lost 3x classical in a row in the finals of a FIDE or PCA WCC (or finals of knockouts candidates or semi-finals of a knockout WCC) ?
Answer : Vishy Anand beat Alexei Shirov in 2000.
2 whole decades Vishy's record stood - broken only in a variant!
Sources :
p1w4Rr-bC
p1w4Rr-bC
p1w4Rr-bC
JxIdCEj6_E8
JxIdCEj6_E8
JxIdCEj6_E8
Memorizing 30 moves for a comfortable draw with white, I love modern chess
modern top level chess*
I tell you this was as if walking on razor edge, kudos to Nepo finding all the best moves any lesser player would have succumbed to a blunder.
@@RigMaster_ this isn’t exclusive to top chess
It’s why top level chess is starting to focus more on shorter time controls because with modern engines, chess has become more of a memory game than what chess was in the past. It’s not interesting to see two behemoths just blasting out engine line after engine line. If it were, we’d all watch the chess engine championship.
@@sudowtf
This is why Magnus is so dominant.
190 IQ, cranium is 2 std deviations higher than the norm, has photographic memory and has memorized syzygy table to 97%.
0:39 Best moment. Comedic gold. 😂😂😂
I'm more used to seeing those sorts of faces on Hikaru 😁
Nepo more genius had to play all computer line on his own out of prep incredible
And yet Nepo lost!!! VD played almost all the best engine moves today and not to mention he won the rapid with Black.
He didn’t lose this game though
What planet are you in? They ended the game in a draw. You cant play 99% accuracy and lose lmao
Still lost tho 😢
Now u think Nepo didn't know the engine lines? All move he played over the board? He prepared for two world championship matches. 🤦
99 accuracy that is insanity
Vidit beats nepo and qualifies for semi final oh my
Qualifies to the qf
Ian : Bro do you have some chip in your mind 😂😂
Upgraded beads
I really like nepo he's an awesome dude but I gotta give it to vidit lol man's out there done his homework well done
"Chess isn't all about memory."
Also:
Doesn’t this prove the opposite?
Nepo is slightly better than Vidit, but Vidit is no slouch.
Even then, Vidit couldn’t win after memorizing a 30-move deep line.
PS. I bet Magnus at his best could takeover this game in move 10, create imbalances everywhere, get to a slightly better endgame (let’s say equal material but 2 pawn islands against 4), grind for a couple hours and win.
@@agm2531lol bro, nepo peak rating is nearly 2800(2795) vidit never even reached 2740 once in his lifetime, hippo is of course a slightly better player over-all, but ratings are just numbers, it got proved today, props to vidit.🇮🇳
It isn't though. Both chose to follow the line. They could at any time play another move to create imbalances and winning chances, especially in faster time controls. You can reach a pretty high level in chess without memorizing anything.
@@X.Com__hippo 😂
Dw bro you'll never get to the level where chess is all about memory
I spent admittedly far too much time the last few months studying the Caro Kann, and have yet to go more than a few moves before my opponent goes out of theory. I’m also still struggling with remembering how to spell Caro Kann.
Lol, Karo Cann is easy to spell
@@TaeKwonDodkwait a second, didn't the right spelling should be Kharo Caughn?
whatchu sayin' about Carrot Ann?
This is the future Bobby Fischer lamented about.
At the highest levels chess is no longer a game about intellect and creativity. It's a game about who can memorize Stockfish openings.
Same thought crossed my mind. It really killed the creativity in chess. It's now a competition of who has the best memory.
it's so sad
You have no clue on what you’re saying 🤡
you don't have to worry about it
look at their accuracies, 🤐🤐
That's why fisher said : i hate chess.
Nepo 🤝🏻 Hikaru
Memeable faces.
99% of the people who are commenting chess is all about memorization can't even reach the level where it is all about preperation and memorization 😂😂😂
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
that face lol
Heres the proposition for a gamemode of chess:
Randomly generated symmetrical positions that are equal according to chess engines are given to chess players. They start out by playing them. Removes the prep element, makes games random as well as makes the element of surprise even more enjoyable
chess engines destroying chess with all the prep
0:39
Lmfao im ceasing
That's a damn cool tattoo on nepo
The 2 Classical Matches which don't need memory were a draw, so I don't understand the drama cuz Nepo also came memorizing a lot of tricks to play here
Thats why goat thinks that shit boring
99 accuracy is just one computer throwing shade at another computer 😂
So awesome! I have pretty deep theory into the ruy, the caro and the queens gambit yet no one ever plays more than two moves of theory haha! I hope that improves when i get to a higher rating so i can start using it.
No one cares, no one asked
fkin ian hilarious XD
Fischerandom is the real chess now
Good battle, though still!
The man who made the thumbnail needs a raise.
He won the match! my god he played perfectly.
It was a draw
It was a draw
@@SalmanKhan-yx5uf sorry my bad it's the 10min rapid he had just won. Anyways he won the match now!
yall making this up 30 move what
This is why Bobby Fischer hated chess. How many moves can I remember ?
who cares about that guy
@@apzn1170 a lot of people!
That was always going to be the next evolution of chess. Individual genius and creativity still comes into play during middle game though. You can only memorise engine lines upto a certain point
I can't even think 3 moves ahead nvm 30
For a moment Ian thought - is this guy cheating.😅
That's my face when my opponent knows more than 7 moves of theory.
98.7 and 99 jesus christ
I would have the same expression. Why did Vidit make that move though?
Other than it being engine suggestion.
Chess has become prearranged engine moves
White has played 2 more moves than black at 1:45 😅
When engines play otb
Is this still chess?
dina belenkaya effect
Did anyone notice Ian's huge new tattoo? What is it saying?
‘2 times runner up’ but it’s in chinese
Tattoos cant talk silly
@@emanuelpetre5491😂
Engine hiding technique😃
It's a phoenix I believe
appreciate the accuracy stats and the debates in this comment section✌
the greatest chess player ever ROBERT JAMES FISCHER....told everyone 50 years ago that chess was becoming just memorization...well welcome to today
it's not all memorization, it's 50% memorization 50% skill.
Hence why he created Fischerrandom to try and get rid of the repetitive memory stuff.
It is not all memorization. Sure you have games like this one, but either player could deviate and play something new. You still have high level games which reach new positions after 5 or 6 moves. There has also never been this many different openings played, since many of them were believed to be losing before engines.
It is also interesting that he said it 50 years ago, before chess engines were stronger than humans.
HI MAN, YOU ARE BORING, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW
I have a theory that Fischer had an early US computer behind him… as part of the Cold War battle, being used to undermine increasing Russian superiority. It’s only a theory but could explain his decision to walk away from chess prematurely…
Edit: I’m not saying Fischer wasn’t a great player in his own right, but the way he single handedly, and suddenly, defeated an army of Russian GMs is undoubtedly an incredible and, at the time, hugely surprising feat. Could also have helped to form his view of chess being largely about memory.
Jeez the fragile ego ELO in this comment section is off the charts
RIP chess
I memorized 30 moves of a line of ruy lopez for a tournament and my opponent played 1 h3😂😂😂... I went on winning that game but since then I just blitz out my moves no prep
U need to prep ur setup, so u know the middle game ideas
I mean he had one mistake... So not really ...
So Nepo knew the same prep too?
For sure..
No he was calculating over the board. That was such kind of position where you have only one not losing move, so it's kinda easy for GM to spot those moves
The clock is a way to tell what is in their prep. Nepo had like 20 or 25 moves in prep. The last few seeming to be calculation.
@@jdmac157 That's what I'm talking about
Don't be fooled by the title. It could be that Nepo is surprised Vidit is so quick with the calculations since it's crucial point to not make mistakes
😂😂😂
I guess this is what bores Magnus. This and blundering to Vincent.
Insaene
So sad. Chess is a memory game now 😢
Always has been
@@Marthas84Before, you didn't have computers analysing the best possible moves you could make and have them help you with memorising the perfect lines. It was mostly prep for what your opponent could do to try to steer the game into your favour.
@@Marthas84 false
@@ZamAbove-m Computers also made so many more openings possible to play, openings which was believed to be losing before.
Unless you are really good you don't need to memorize anything.
This is why Magnus can’t stand classical lol
I think this was a rapid game
@@1001011011010 It was, but this type of thing is what I mean.
This is rapid…
@@claudiog7692 It was, but this type of thing is what I mean.
@@Gush27it’s rapid
Really this shows why Fischer hated modern chess. Honestly it has become a waste of time. Bridge is better.
GingerGM it isn't 'great stuff'. It's boring crap watching people play out lines they have memorized.
Memorizing Blowfish lines has ruined Chess
yup high level chess just boring memorization now lame who cares. that's why magnus is awesome he goes into endgame and then finds a win anyway when memory is no longer a factor
yes and if u pay attention at tata steel 2023,magnus play a lot of random moves to destroy his opponent preps
to ruin their 20-30moves engine preps
I feel little interest in watching Human? vs Human? anymore.
first
this full memorization chess metagame is so boring.
Ian has a history of explicitly or implicitly accuse others of cheating especially if their skin is darker than his
First
@@AmanRight-cl2wb 😭😭
Hikaru is back on Coffee Chess after suffering a bitter defeat early in the chess world cup 2023.
Worst game and best game ... 💯% accuracy
i mean this is kinda fucked up lol, is chess like playing memory now? im a really good player at finding good tactics but just lazy to learn all the openings and just playing "memory"...
Don't worry you'll never be good enough to worry about it
Haha yeah. Do you think that by memorizing lines you could beat a grandmaster?
Chess has been like playing memory since the discovery of "opening theory" which was 100s years ago.
Also if you want to deviate from playing memory don't play the best engine lines all the time.
it kinda is turning into that on the GM level. engine lines are always going to surpass any tactics humans can ever think of, so the strongest engine line prepper will take over. at this point it's just Magnus so far above that he doesn't need engine lines so much
every gm is great at finding brilliant moves but at the end of the day you can't just play the game with your on the moment skills.... they got to prepare and memorise all the lines because the opponent is and that's how you reach elite level in chess
This is why Pro chess, on occasion, sucks
Honestly this chess is boring
G FREE. not g3. this guy has zero ability to say THREE.
It's sad they never played each other in 9LX whether FIDE or st Louis. Nepo beat Alireza 1 of their 4 classical 9LX games and drew the other 3. Vidit & Alireza drew both of their classical 9LX games. So who knows who among Nepo, Vidit & Alireza is really the best at classical 9LX?
Is Vidit the biggest reason India would want classical 9LX?
Vidit beat Sergey Karjakin to get in the 2019 WFRCC quarter-finals. But then...
Wesley So & Fabi expectedly do better in classical than in rapid for both 9LX & chess. Now, I'm not familiar with Vidit but
- Wesley So does 30% better.
- Fabi does 40% better.
- VIDIT DOES 300% BETTER.
LIKE 50% CLASSICAL SCORE BUT 12.5% RAPID SCORE.
Vidit in 9LX
- is the top Indian classical player
- is the worst rapid player among the top 9 of the 2019 WFRCC.
- in classical ties for 2nd place w/ Fabi & Nepo behind Wesley So.
When is Tata Steel Classical Chess960 ? It should be a knockout where Vidit is seeded into the quarter-finals. It can be 60min, not 120min.
P.s. In the 2019 WFRCC, wesley so beat magnus in 3x classical in a row!
Question : When was the last time this happened in chess that someone lost 3x classical in a row in the finals of a FIDE or PCA WCC (or finals of knockouts candidates or semi-finals of a knockout WCC) ?
Answer : Vishy Anand beat Alexei Shirov in 2000.
2 whole decades Vishy's record stood - broken only in a variant!
Sources :
p1w4Rr-bC
p1w4Rr-bC
p1w4Rr-bC
JxIdCEj6_E8
JxIdCEj6_E8
JxIdCEj6_E8
Are you off of your pills again?
What
9lx is another thing this is fide world cup i suggest u comment only on 9lx videos please
@@iswearillchangemynamesoon
Dear Indians, this person hates Vidit.
Now to you :
You shouldn't hate Vidit. Vidit never did anything to you.
As for 9LX
If there were then I would. The point is there isn't which is why I'm here.
@@iswearillchangemynamesoon
Also you didn't answer the question. Wesley So would be the biggest reason the Philippines would want 9LX. Sergey Karjakin would be the biggest reason pro-Putin part of Russia would want classical 9LX. Magnus for Norway. Nepo for anti-Putin part of Russia. Etc. For India, it's actually not necessarily Vishy Gukesh Arjun Pragg Nihal but actually Vidit!
This is why we need Chess960