My only problem I have with F2P content creators that are also doing content on Honkai Star Rail is that they are Whaleing in HSR and also advertising and promoting HSR but are not willing to spend on WuWa and goingF2P for some reason. I personally think WuWa needs the extra funding instead of HSR whene Mihoyo already has more than enough money both in Genshin and HSR
OMG THANK YOU, I am so glad somebody said it because I've seen it the same way. At the end of the day, it's a deep rooted bias to Hoyo that a lot of them won't admit. I've never whaled in Genshin or HSR, but if I did whale, common sense would say whale in a game where the only true 5050 you're dealing with, is the limited unit banner. Otherwise, all weapons are a given.
Bro, even tho content creators don't spend money directly they do giveaways, they've spent more money doing giveaways then a lot of low spenders, just because they don't spend in their accounts it doesn't mean they don't support the game somehow
@@ddlcp The mass majority don't actually buy pulls though is the thing. Just because whales dump money in doesn't mean the majority of spenders are not whales they are light spenders. People who can really only afford 10-20 dollars every now and then. Companies have actual data on this
@@cynthiahembree3957 I'm well aware that mass majority don't buy pulls where whales do, where most of their money comes from- comment "most of the money companies get from battle pass". The company makes most money in char pull from whale and light spender, not from battle pass per your og comment. Also even when there'r many low spender those who actually spend on BP's pretty low not high as its wouldn't make much sense as unless you'r lucky or save a lot/longer you would require at least BP + few to spend on actual pull to guarantee the character only.
The problem is people take shots instead of make points and or suggestions. It's an obvious point that if you enjoy a service you should pay the people that provide it OR it's likely that it will not continue. It's not about morality, it's personal best interest. The F2P game is not a charity, so if you CHOOSE not to financially support it, you take the 50/50 that it won't be around in the future. Most people will take the gamble because games really just aren't worth money to them at the end of the day. They of course just cannot complain when people do not want to make the games or the content they want to play because they do not feel the work that goes into the game is worth money. It's really that simple, no need to make someone a demon, just show the simple math of how you actually vote with your wallet.
sorry. cant watch that guy talk. he just is so oblivious of his lack of knowledge that I am loosing braincells. this is the kind of guy that thinks communism is great or earth is flat cos he lacks any deep understanding at the matter.
Certain ppl think that F2P are useless or leechers, but its the contrary, without them the game would make extremely less daily login, would have smaller community. The F2P are free advertisement, and participation to all activities and without almost limit compare to personal money investment. I even talk about the difference between giving access to a service by paying or freely first that is a hook to spend later and even more that the first payment access. "Gaming is the cheaper hobby" ... LOL, 60-70euro/dollars for average 20h of poor gaming experience or with no "replay value" because they have no interest to be replay or maybe in 6 months when you forgot the plot (the majority of "offline" games). Its just a scam for and even more on console with their life time, so no, its not the cheapest hobby.
Pretty sure he's talking about f2p streamer that get those stipends. Genshin says not to disclose they get primos so they show an income that a real f2p doesn't have. Now I have no idea why he's talking about wuthering waves
1: I can kinda level with baldy in that i dont understand major CC being f2p and not financially supporting a game but everyones can make their own choices. I always support a game AND the company i like at least through battle pass but like i said everyone is different 2:Thanks for mathing, i agree with hair man. f2p is free but the potential to make more off of the game far ecxceeds any AAA console or pc release 3. Baldy i agree, i personally like to watch creaters
Dropped Wuwa because losing the 50/50 made me realize I really don't like most of the 5* pool. So Kuro just lost me as a potential spender by being a bit too greedy with the coinflip system and the bad roster of 5* that can drop.
I already knew it was gonna be a shit show when he brought up people scamming welfare, something that is incredibly rare 😂 I will say, I don't think prices increasing is a development cost issue near as much as it is a marketing cost issue.
I agree with the bald dude. Ya mfs are easy to get offended by what he’s tryna say. It’s an iceberg to it and y’all are at the tip. Take a second and try to understand what he means.
even tho content creators don't spend money directly they do giveaways, they've spent more money doing giveaways then a lot of low spenders, just because they don't spend in their accounts it doesn't mean they don't support the game somehow
Lmao the funny thing is content creators are such a small percentage of whalezs too Most are buisness men/women who dont have time for standard games and blow a bunch of their large incomes for a littke bit of fun
My only problem I have with F2P content creators that are also doing content on Honkai Star Rail is that they are Whaleing in HSR and also advertising and promoting HSR but are not willing to spend on WuWa and goingF2P for some reason. I personally think WuWa needs the extra funding instead of HSR whene Mihoyo already has more than enough money both in Genshin and HSR
some of these f2p content creators like gacha smack buys monthly passes and battle passes for his viewers
OMG THANK YOU, I am so glad somebody said it because I've seen it the same way. At the end of the day, it's a deep rooted bias to Hoyo that a lot of them won't admit. I've never whaled in Genshin or HSR, but if I did whale, common sense would say whale in a game where the only true 5050 you're dealing with, is the limited unit banner. Otherwise, all weapons are a given.
@cc_the_rebel Totally agree with you man.
Bro, even tho content creators don't spend money directly they do giveaways, they've spent more money doing giveaways then a lot of low spenders, just because they don't spend in their accounts it doesn't mean they don't support the game somehow
Spends $100 on boothill@@ShinichiKudo14122
Bro though that he was cooking something. He doesn't know how the gacha industry works
How does it work, if I may ask?
This vid is the first of yours I’ve watched! New sub 🔥🔥
That's such a boomer take on original video's author's part. You did a great job breaking it down.
The way bro called "uma musume". "muma usume"😭😭
And once again, Thank you for your thoughts Connor.
14:00 reminds me a certain slime cc from an open world gacha game
Most of the money companies get from battle passes.
BP? I thinks many might buy BP but most money definitely comes for char/wpn + W/D
@@ddlcp The mass majority don't actually buy pulls though is the thing. Just because whales dump money in doesn't mean the majority of spenders are not whales they are light spenders. People who can really only afford 10-20 dollars every now and then. Companies have actual data on this
@@cynthiahembree3957 I'm well aware that mass majority don't buy pulls where whales do, where most of their money comes from- comment "most of the money companies get from battle pass". The company makes most money in char pull from whale and light spender, not from battle pass per your og comment. Also even when there'r many low spender those who actually spend on BP's pretty low not high as its wouldn't make much sense as unless you'r lucky or save a lot/longer you would require at least BP + few to spend on actual pull to guarantee the character only.
BPass AND the first three plus the last three days of Banners for characters and weapons.
The problem is people take shots instead of make points and or suggestions. It's an obvious point that if you enjoy a service you should pay the people that provide it OR it's likely that it will not continue. It's not about morality, it's personal best interest. The F2P game is not a charity, so if you CHOOSE not to financially support it, you take the 50/50 that it won't be around in the future.
Most people will take the gamble because games really just aren't worth money to them at the end of the day. They of course just cannot complain when people do not want to make the games or the content they want to play because they do not feel the work that goes into the game is worth money. It's really that simple, no need to make someone a demon, just show the simple math of how you actually vote with your wallet.
sorry. cant watch that guy talk. he just is so oblivious of his lack of knowledge that I am loosing braincells.
this is the kind of guy that thinks communism is great or earth is flat cos he lacks any deep understanding at the matter.
Certain ppl think that F2P are useless or leechers, but its the contrary, without them the game would make extremely less daily login, would have smaller community. The F2P are free advertisement, and participation to all activities and without almost limit compare to personal money investment.
I even talk about the difference between giving access to a service by paying or freely first that is a hook to spend later and even more that the first payment access.
"Gaming is the cheaper hobby" ... LOL, 60-70euro/dollars for average 20h of poor gaming experience or with no "replay value" because they have no interest to be replay or maybe in 6 months when you forgot the plot (the majority of "offline" games). Its just a scam for and even more on console with their life time, so no, its not the cheapest hobby.
Bald guy is like a dollar store John Malkovich.
He doesnt even have proof to support his accusations.
Pretty sure he's talking about f2p streamer that get those stipends. Genshin says not to disclose they get primos so they show an income that a real f2p doesn't have. Now I have no idea why he's talking about wuthering waves
Ahh yes this wierdo....he definitely thought he was making a profound point but it really just came off embarrassingly cringe for him.
Which one???
This is the 2nd take I have seen where someone thought he was cooking something and he burned down the house??
Someone pissed in his cornflakes 😅
1: I can kinda level with baldy in that i dont understand major CC being f2p and not financially supporting a game but everyones can make their own choices. I always support a game AND the company i like at least through battle pass but like i said everyone is different
2:Thanks for mathing, i agree with hair man. f2p is free but the potential to make more off of the game far ecxceeds any AAA console or pc release
3. Baldy i agree, i personally like to watch creaters
Plaz took his gacha videos to private and laid harassment against Tectones twitch and podcast now. According to his last video.
I have seen others react to this. Interesting opinions? Nah I don't think he knows what he is taking about.
I wouldnt be offended if that guy called me a hellish being i would be proud 😂 also this conversation is irrelevant to me cuz idc about this stuff
12:34 Bro, maybe you shouldn't "surmise" about things you have no clue about. 🤣
Me who’s wondering what content creator could have such a bad take.
Me after he starts the video: ohhh… this clown again. 🤣
Games are not cheap dude this bald guy trying so hard to say something, but he doesn't know what he's talking about.
data is worth more then money
the guy is delusional
hes the corpo slave xD
Dropped Wuwa because losing the 50/50 made me realize I really don't like most of the 5* pool.
So Kuro just lost me as a potential spender by being a bit too greedy with the coinflip system and the bad roster of 5* that can drop.
I already knew it was gonna be a shit show when he brought up people scamming welfare, something that is incredibly rare 😂
I will say, I don't think prices increasing is a development cost issue near as much as it is a marketing cost issue.
I`m sorry bro, but he has many good points, He just needed to word his argument in a better way. Anyway I personally agree with him.
I agree with the bald dude. Ya mfs are easy to get offended by what he’s tryna say. It’s an iceberg to it and y’all are at the tip. Take a second and try to understand what he means.
I'm sure you opened your third eye and have become god already
your such a mintpicker lol
even tho content creators don't spend money directly they do giveaways, they've spent more money doing giveaways then a lot of low spenders, just because they don't spend in their accounts it doesn't mean they don't support the game somehow
thast why this corpo dude is bald xD
moomamusume
just chill, this dude probably doesn't understand how gacha game works anyway
I just thought his video was really weird.
I made it 3 minutes I'm till the video you are covering gave me enough ick to want to stop watching. Who watches that guy?!
I thought this would be just an interesting video. I was not prepared for that.
i dropped a like and sub btw
I like the NIKKE reference in your name
@@ConnorsThoughts thanks, she and snow white are my favorites ✌️
Lmao the funny thing is content creators are such a small percentage of whalezs too
Most are buisness men/women who dont have time for standard games and blow a bunch of their large incomes for a littke bit of fun
Huh what lol 😂
helllo
His like the flat earthier equivalent for gacha games
why do you even listen to some new youtuber who is lookin for clout
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