5 Tips for Drumming Odd Time Signatures

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  • Опубліковано 27 січ 2014
  • Dudes. Here are 5 tips for playing drums in odd (complex) time signatures.
    The video features "Tom Sawyer" by Rush, "15 Step" by Radiohead, "Whipping Post" by The Allman Brothers, and "Ra" by Jordan Rudess.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 396

  • @apothecurio
    @apothecurio 7 років тому +315

    I played 7/8 like ten minuets straight then did a regular 4/4 song and 4/4 suddenly felt weird and awkward.

    • @jan_Travis
      @jan_Travis 5 років тому +14

      There was a time where I did 5/4 so, I had to count 4/4 again. 5/4 is my favorite time signature.

    • @josephharvey1762
      @josephharvey1762 4 роки тому +5

      7/8 has great flow when you think of it as a bar of 3 and then a bar of 4 or vise versa

    • @dumpygoodness4086
      @dumpygoodness4086 4 роки тому +1

      @@jan_Travis I GREW UP listening to Cobham, Carl Palmer, MAGMa, and the rest... so when I finally got my first drum kit (this summer)... i instantly could play insane time sigs... but CANNOT PLAY ANY 4/4 TO SAVE MY LIFE. It's crazy! My brain wants the freedom of syncopation etc. ARGH!

    • @jan_Travis
      @jan_Travis 4 роки тому +1

      @@dumpygoodness4086 I remember learning odd time not too long ago. The stuff is so awesome. Especially when you start alternating time signatures with yourself. Awesome stuff.

  • @RickyFicarelli
    @RickyFicarelli 6 років тому +75

    Damn, you were RIPPIN that 7/8.

  • @canturgan
    @canturgan 6 років тому +127

    I like it when a 7/8 tune is played in 4/4 so it goes in and out, if you know what I mean.

    • @MichaelWLee
      @MichaelWLee 5 років тому +1

      canturgan boy do i have a band for you. If you havnt already heard of them, Meshuggah does this in every song and it's fuckig awesome

    • @birdmafia9884
      @birdmafia9884 5 років тому

      Daniel Villalobos I thought he was talking about Polymeters, but that too.

    • @MyGroo
      @MyGroo 5 років тому

      It's usually a 7/16 or 7/8 tune overlaid by 7/4. E.g. Sound of Muzak by Porcupine Tree, where it's 7/4 over 7/16

  • @xxchurchiexx
    @xxchurchiexx 7 років тому +199

    "Like Beethoven and dream theatre " 😹

  • @off1cerr640
    @off1cerr640 4 роки тому +53

    #2
    Listen to the Hits!:
    7/8: **TOM SAWYER INTENSIFIES**

    • @tito_nb
      @tito_nb 4 роки тому +2

      I swear, tom sawyer is the hardest song I've tried playing 😂

  • @andrewmayer2443
    @andrewmayer2443 5 років тому +32

    2:24 that splash stack stand thing is awesome

  • @simonsteamyhead5738
    @simonsteamyhead5738 7 років тому +37

    The simplest way for me to feel a 7/8 rhythm is the bass line in pink floyd' Money.And what a great use of that time signature it is

    • @kobruh
      @kobruh 5 років тому +7

      simonsteamyhead Money isn’t in 7/8, it’s in 7/4

    • @patrickgroll2046
      @patrickgroll2046 4 роки тому

      I always thought Money was 5/4. My mistake apparently

  • @rhythmantic
    @rhythmantic 8 років тому +138

    Very educating and entertaining. I dig your drumming too. It's one thing to explain, quite another to play it. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mateush998
    @mateush998 9 років тому +456

    Jim Carrey on drums

    • @StupidEarthlings
      @StupidEarthlings 7 років тому +34

      You misspelled drugs. ;)

    • @mossawirahmed8781
      @mossawirahmed8781 7 років тому +1

      hahaha

    • @garypugh1153
      @garypugh1153 7 років тому

      maybe i should change my set similar to yours? but are you left handed or both? i'm right. thanx

    • @JakeRosen635
      @JakeRosen635 7 років тому +6

      you mean Danny

    • @FanaticDrummer
      @FanaticDrummer 7 років тому +15

      mateush998 If Jim Carey banged Ryan Reynolds...

  • @therealandrewlund
    @therealandrewlund 6 років тому +35

    If I can't be as good as you, I hope I can at least be as humble and easy-going

    • @michaelanderson2881
      @michaelanderson2881 3 роки тому

      I find it quite easy to be humble, easy-going, and suck at drums, all at the same time.

  • @crissreznor
    @crissreznor 5 років тому +2

    Love that cool Christmas tree 🎄 of splash cymbals up front .

  • @JamesOKeefe-US
    @JamesOKeefe-US 7 років тому +10

    I love these clips. I binge watch them over and over because there is so much subtle content in them that is hilarious and informative. Thank you for sharing with us!

  • @mikkovaltonen3564
    @mikkovaltonen3564 5 років тому +3

    Sting's "Ten Summoner's Tales" was my introduction to odd time. Vinnie Colaiuta groovin' in 5/4 and 7/8 :)

  • @IAmKrazyKyle
    @IAmKrazyKyle 5 років тому +5

    I love odd time signatures. It feels like a brain workout as well as a way to spark creativity. I particularly like 7/8 for some reason.

  • @heftyalan1152
    @heftyalan1152 5 років тому +3

    You can't beat good old fashioned counting. Dream Theatre? Yes were playing different time signatures back in the 60's but then they did have one of the greatest drummers of all time Mr Bill Bruford. That definitely helped.

  • @roman14032
    @roman14032 9 років тому +106

    yea......well....
    he can play

  • @krajax6875
    @krajax6875 4 роки тому +3

    1:34 holy crap im listening to the radio and that song came on as you started drumming

  • @michaelpivik5326
    @michaelpivik5326 5 років тому +7

    DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE. my dude, you have the gift, keep it passing on and on and... yeah before copyright laws get me for the lyrics I am singing in the comment, keep on swinging in the somewhat free world chief dude

  • @kettlemagic
    @kettlemagic 5 років тому

    I’ve never come across a drum instructional more spot on with exactly how I understand to play in odd times.
    I appreciate your pedagogy. Thanks.

  • @tickdog3
    @tickdog3 7 років тому +22

    damn this guy is good!

  • @Buttstastic2
    @Buttstastic2 10 років тому +1

    Ah odd times. The Peacecore of the drum world- toughest songs you'll love to play.
    Great channel man, love the videos.

  • @quinnstopher
    @quinnstopher 6 років тому

    Just found your channel the other day! I love the content and all the help that you bring to new drummers!

  • @EthanTheGoalie
    @EthanTheGoalie 6 років тому +3

    this is the youtube channel i've been looking for

  • @ernestorodriguez7419
    @ernestorodriguez7419 5 років тому

    This reminded me of good odd timing songs I discovered in the 90's by Sting (Seven Days, I Hung My Head, I was brought to my senses), DMB (The Stone, The Dreaming Tree), Soundgarden (Fell on black days, spoonman, my wave). Thanks for sharing these tips!

  • @aubreyrose9088
    @aubreyrose9088 6 років тому

    Dude, your the coolest, and the only person I can actually understand breaking down Rythems and time signatures. Thank you for making the best drum videos on UA-cam.

  • @james-en8yn
    @james-en8yn 6 років тому +1

    I love how he played that Radiohead song

  • @yioryaras
    @yioryaras 3 роки тому

    You're an incredible contributor into helping drumming new-blood picking up the ropes of multi-time signature Harry. During my half a century, plus, of performing, creating and teaching arts, there are not many times that I'm coming across educators that are charismatic in simplifying complex aspects of rudimentary issues and certainly you have what it takes Harry. I see very much of Mike Portnoy in you, I hope this is a compliment dude 🎶🥁😉.

  • @RichardWelsby
    @RichardWelsby 8 років тому

    Thanks for sharing this great lesson with us Harry, you're a really inspirational player!

  • @johnconnorclark6082
    @johnconnorclark6082 7 років тому

    Love the the left handed kit set up!

  • @Elchinodiabolero
    @Elchinodiabolero 7 років тому +115

    wtf am I doin here? I barely know what a snare is

    • @vibin_psilocybin
      @vibin_psilocybin 5 років тому +7

      Elchinodiabolero gotta start somewhere!

    • @kunns123
      @kunns123 5 років тому +3

      Now you know what odd time is, so cool

    • @Rockin_Ross
      @Rockin_Ross 4 роки тому

      Don’t worry, we all feel the same way...😂😂

    • @rooster9855
      @rooster9855 3 роки тому

      This made me chuckle. I feel like that too sometimes. 😂🤣

  • @stereoroid
    @stereoroid 7 років тому

    IMHO, the great thing about Rush, as opposed to (say) Dream Theater, is that their use of odd time signatures tends to be more musical and tasteful. Try "Leave That Thing Alone" for a great example, where Neil swings like the proverbial mother---- in the middle section, lays a totally straight beat under the guitar solo for contrast, before smoothly taking it home through a few tasteful odd changes. The sheer musicality puts a smile on my dial every time.

  • @Good-Enuff-Garage
    @Good-Enuff-Garage Рік тому

    what sorta odd ball drum setup is that dude my brain hurts just looking at it, and yet you play amazing DUDE !

  • @mrrob817
    @mrrob817 9 років тому +10

    Best thing I teach students that actually should be playing an instrument is that hits off some off your points is counting,if you can count to 37'than what's the problem...it's about theory and pulse...so after they truly know what a whole note and a whole note rest is then we talk about the grid...not to sound like a know it all,bottom line what's the definition of a time signature? Top number is,number of counts fact, bottom number(here's the theory) pulse...it takes experience to define what the bottom number is but it puts you in range...as for foundation most drummers are taught wrong from day one...because they are not taught 2 things 1 rests are in equal in value as notes and 2 note duration....great job your vids are extremely informative and you are a true educational teacher and a great player

    • @mauimaui6478
      @mauimaui6478 7 років тому

      YES WHAT MRROB81-7-U2 SAID, SORRY ODD STROKE SIG. PERHAPS A REST?

    • @isaacleedrums
      @isaacleedrums 5 років тому

      My teacher said it Like this: the top number is how many of the bottom number there are in each bar.

  • @Guitarkid1991
    @Guitarkid1991 8 років тому

    This was great! Most helpful vid I found so far, thanks man! Keep up the kick-ass playing.

  • @ivtympanistam9903
    @ivtympanistam9903 8 років тому +4

    I use a combination of Mike Mangini's method and Mike Portnoy's method. Portnoy suggests breaking down big numbers into smaller numbers using simple arithmetic; however because there are always different ways of achieving the same answer, you use different methods to get to the desired time signature depending on the feel of the song and how natural you want it to sound. For example say I have a part in 15/8, I could make it feel natural by use of a bar of 12/8 (felt like a double length bar of 6/8) and then a measure of 3/8 added to the end. (I prefer using a jazz waltz feel for the 3/8 just so I can distinguish between the 12 and the 3), or unnatural by reaching 15 by using one bar of 7, and two bars of 4. Or again by using 7, 3, and 5. I see Portnoy's as being a tad bit more in depth as Mangini's because once you get into bigger numbers (into to teens 20s and 30s) you can only really feel the passes of 123 in triplets as you demonstrated in the section of 23. You could play that straight but it would be counter-intuitive to me at least. I use Mangini's as a fail-safe to Portnoy's. In a scenario when you don't have time to do calculations on top of the calculations you may be already doing (for example sight-reading a song or learning a new song that someone wrote in a band situation). If its not the right feel for the song then oh well you'll have time to do some calculations and make it right.

  • @OZRIC1985
    @OZRIC1985 3 роки тому

    Those beats were definitely bad azz! I'm enjoying your sense of humor along with your incredible talent on the drums! :)

  • @MartinLopez-cp1rl
    @MartinLopez-cp1rl 6 років тому

    using the bell on the ride trick really helped me out, thanks dude

  • @derc5284
    @derc5284 8 років тому

    Great lesson! You are one of my favorite drum teachers!!!!

  • @GornickPT
    @GornickPT 9 років тому +1

    Very good explanation. Thank you!

  • @josephgurzynski1053
    @josephgurzynski1053 8 років тому

    Totally inspiring!!! I'll never be able to play at your level, but at least you've given me a glimpse...
    Well done!!!

  • @murtinha
    @murtinha 8 років тому

    Dude thats one of the best odd times sigs video ive seen! Thanks man

  • @davelewitt
    @davelewitt Рік тому

    Great video and love the fun approach -

  • @progrunner3094
    @progrunner3094 6 років тому

    Dude, you're absolutely brilliant !!! Congrats! You rock !!!

  • @wesnile8972
    @wesnile8972 7 років тому

    Nice little run through. Definitely learned a thing or two, thanks bud!

  • @ChristianArnoldMusic
    @ChristianArnoldMusic 8 років тому

    Great video. I subscribed. Informative, funny, and a great musician. All good stuff man!

  • @carlosconcepcion1599
    @carlosconcepcion1599 8 років тому

    Dude, you are an outstanding teacher. Keep the good job.

  • @docevans8500
    @docevans8500 4 роки тому

    Man you're a great drummer! Sweet chops!!!

  • @jollygreengiantdrums
    @jollygreengiantdrums 8 років тому

    This is incredibly helpful! Thank you so much!!

  • @danielmacca7268
    @danielmacca7268 3 роки тому

    "I guarantee that you will get fired if you try this out on a club gig but you'll totally be on your way to shredding entire Rush albums if you look into this stuff"...too funny! Your fluidity and ease on the kit is so inspiring!!

  • @garypugh1153
    @garypugh1153 6 років тому

    best drum video ever. i can't seem to find your video of why you set your drums backword. i saw it once.

  • @CNder77
    @CNder77 7 років тому

    Oh my gosh, this was amazing! You play very well and I look up to that. Thank you for these tips, they'll help me do more with my drumming:)

  • @Swindonex
    @Swindonex 9 років тому

    Thanks so much man! I was looking for a video like this for so long :D

  • @21stcentent
    @21stcentent 3 роки тому

    "I have small resentments against each one of you" made me an "Instant Fan" today, and now I have learned something also! WTF is this geniusery...geniusry...geniusiery...Dude?

  • @xzzaaqa
    @xzzaaqa 6 років тому

    Dude you’re an absolute legend !!!!! My son is coming into the age of understanding and this is so helpful

  • @ChrisJohnsonDrums
    @ChrisJohnsonDrums 6 років тому

    Hah fantastic. Great information, straight to the point, and I dig your style man!

  • @oiddio69
    @oiddio69 7 років тому

    Great video. Thanks for the explaining this well.

  • @4LetterName
    @4LetterName 2 роки тому

    Super helpful! Thank you!

  • @2rkolle
    @2rkolle 8 років тому

    nice grooves... good to listening

  • @andydunn5673
    @andydunn5673 4 роки тому

    Dude
    Great little lesson
    Thanks for sharing

  • @michen667
    @michen667 5 років тому

    Harry, I love your style.

  • @MrIzzy5466
    @MrIzzy5466 5 років тому +2

    I learned how to play Tom Sawyer by Rush in high school. 6 years later I'm only now learning it's in 7/8. Guess I just felt the beat and said screw counting

  • @memyselfandlewii8781
    @memyselfandlewii8781 5 років тому

    Dude, love your vids, good drumming, great tips Dude!

  • @mrrob817
    @mrrob817 9 років тому

    Great job you make drumming fun and you have amazing dance moves....you are a tremendous player and love your vids

  • @trevormcmanis
    @trevormcmanis 7 років тому

    Great Lesson... You are a gifted player.

  • @matto483
    @matto483 5 років тому +1

    Dude, you produce really good content holy shit..thanks.

  • @treyroyal9536
    @treyroyal9536 5 років тому +5

    Try playing Dirty Second Hands by switchfoot

  • @lastcall9998
    @lastcall9998 6 років тому

    Great tips, thanks

  • @jackhill1999
    @jackhill1999 3 роки тому +1

    4:02 I need to know this filll!!!!

  • @santiagobotto9566
    @santiagobotto9566 6 років тому +1

    Daamn, that last part was sick!

  • @kristiaankristiaan5278
    @kristiaankristiaan5278 8 років тому

    Thanks. This was very helpful.

  • @dbsrid4
    @dbsrid4 4 роки тому +1

    Rules for finding what to do for a living.
    1) Watch this dude play the drums.
    2) Find something that makes you make the faces he makes while clearly enjoying the hell out of playing the drums.
    3) Done

  • @johnnyt5465
    @johnnyt5465 5 років тому

    #4... That happened to me.
    Been lost for years now without her.
    Thanks Harry.

  • @spottedstar1123
    @spottedstar1123 6 років тому

    your drumming faces give me so much joy

  • @jamesadamgleason9471
    @jamesadamgleason9471 3 роки тому

    New drummer here and I'm struggling to set my kit up perfectly for my body and brain. I'm odd because I'm right handed but skateboard goofy/ left footed. The high hat to the right definitely seems to make sense to me.

  • @samwilson6210
    @samwilson6210 8 років тому

    Really cool video, very helpful

  • @shalevtsadok2757
    @shalevtsadok2757 5 років тому

    I fucking love your floor tom.

  • @maleturtle4040
    @maleturtle4040 6 років тому

    I don’t know anything about what you said, but I’m still interested to learn. Really great vid!

  • @WTFWasThat
    @WTFWasThat 5 років тому

    Woah man, thanks for the tips!! Really helpful :)

  • @alexmarsh3156
    @alexmarsh3156 8 років тому

    This helped me a great deal..thanks man.

  • @breadboy2712
    @breadboy2712 5 років тому

    Great stuff

  • @tyronehall4484
    @tyronehall4484 6 років тому

    you are the man!! great stuff bro

  • @cursedgeorge939
    @cursedgeorge939 5 років тому

    I honestly like the more subtle uses of odd time signatures. Like turn it on again by genesis.

  • @alexdiesage4868
    @alexdiesage4868 7 років тому

    Concerning the part at 4:08, I've been kind of waiting for this. It restricts creativity, always marking the "1" of every bar with an accent. And now I'm trying to find out how to break away from this intrinsic motivation of marking bars.
    Basically, extending the accent on every two bars, to an accent on every four bars, to eight, to sixteen... to infinity....
    I want to become the Zen Master of accentlessness. Making people forget the existence of bars and accents. Fluid music, with no emotional beginning or ending.
    But then again, whatevs.

  • @Drumming-Life
    @Drumming-Life 9 років тому

    Really like your channel.

  • @dono9893
    @dono9893 6 років тому

    You are exactly what I thought of when I thought "drummer". I'm more happy rn then ever

  • @jasonodea9177
    @jasonodea9177 7 років тому

    Getting used to starting phrases with your non-dominant hand is also useful!

  • @FONO63
    @FONO63 10 років тому

    super nice!

  • @drummyboi7727
    @drummyboi7727 5 років тому

    Love u man so funny!! Great content keep it up👍

  • @PackdHouse
    @PackdHouse 7 років тому

    Great video man!

  • @steamsteam6607
    @steamsteam6607 7 років тому

    Love this dude.

  • @vgonzales787
    @vgonzales787 6 років тому

    Dude. Your toms are 🔥

  • @dankav19
    @dankav19 6 років тому

    Awesome video dude

  • @theredbaron057
    @theredbaron057 5 років тому

    Sub'd. Good editing and great skill.

  • @dickclark5656
    @dickclark5656 6 років тому +1

    Subscribed for your stage faces

  • @drum4fun969
    @drum4fun969 4 роки тому

    Awesome dude.

  • @MattOsborn98
    @MattOsborn98 6 років тому

    Dude... you have the best drum faces!

  • @MyGenSucks
    @MyGenSucks 6 років тому +5

    Why am I just finding this channel?

  • @Felipe.Glauber
    @Felipe.Glauber 5 років тому

    Awesome!

  • @leavingitblank9363
    @leavingitblank9363 7 років тому

    This is great!

  • @jackforsyte3351
    @jackforsyte3351 4 роки тому

    Goddamn man, you're a beast! Nice groove