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Queen Ramonda, Shuri, M'Baku, Okoye and the Dora Milaje fight to protect their nation from intervening world powers in the wake of King T'Challa's death. As the Wakandans strive to embrace their next chapter, the heroes must band together with Nakia and Everett Ross to forge a new path for their beloved kingdom.
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11:18 yes, they're Atlanteans, sorta
Hey JV and Jane you two gonna Wesley Snipes Blade 3 plz watch it I'm still waiting for you'll reaction to that movie !!!!
@Marcus W. Bryant
They are Talokanils not atlanteans.
The mother met Young T’Challa when she was meeting T’Challa’s woman earlier in the film. He was the boy on the far right.
Jane yelling out "pull it out and put it in" and jv implying that not everyone could get into wakanda without enough rhythm just killed me. 🤣
When he side-eyed Jane saying "Pull it out, put it in!" LOL
@@thedefinitionisthisI’m late but he looked scared for his life 😭😭😭
@@thedefinitionisthisat what point in the video ??
@@natedillon4599 @1:11:16
The way this film deals with grief and how it affects you and everyone around you is really well done. Letitia Wright did a great job! Angela Basset was no slouch either and will win the Oscar for it =D
Or maybe this film just pushes a propaganda
@@Anonymous-gh6xf Sure - I'll play along - how does it push propaganda and why did you feel the need to make that comment when nothing I said was political?
@@kevink9764 Men were depicted as weak while women on the other hand were depicted as strong. For eg, m baku and shuri. White people were shown as evil trying to steal vibranium. Also white people were called colonisers. Imagine the uproar if black people were called slaves in the same way.
Another thing was that they replaced a name character with a female character again. First it was female Thor now female black panther.
I think what happened with Mbaku is that Shuri decided not to be queen and just be Black Panther. So it leaves it open for him to be king. Also, I'm looking forward to the Disney+ Ironheart series. We'll get to learn more about Riri there.
The slavery scene is when the Spanish conquistadors conquered the Aztecs, Mayans, and Incans civilizations. As a Mexican American, watching a hero from my ancestral indigenous heritage is special. My ancestors were the Aztecs, and they lost their civilization and language because the Spanish conquistadors conquered mostly everything. I can speak my native Aztec language and Yucatan Maya language, too.
This movie had me full sobbing in the theatre lmao
Same, I thought I was gonna hyperventilate at one point. My entire row sounded like everyone had head colds by the end lol
💯💯 me too!!
When I watched this film I had especially enjoyed how Ryan Coogler had directed the scene of Shuri visiting the ancestral plane because it was clear that Shuri being submerged in water was symbolic of her being drowned by her sorrow and isolation due to the deaths of Ramonda and T'Challa; and when she surfaces to the throne room I imagine the display of fire was meant to be representative of the overwhelming emotions of hatred and fury that Shuri held in her heart for not only Namor but for the entire world.😔
This world doesn't deserve the wonderfulness that Chadwick Boseman gave us and we are lesser without him. May he Rest In Peace.
What? The world doesn’t deserve him yet it’s less without him? U doing the most with that, his presence in these films are extremely missed
Seeing this movie on opening night in theaters was so surreal. It was unlike any other marvel theater experience. The whole theater was silent and all you could hear were the sound of people sniffling. Honestly one of my favorite theater experiences ever. This movie was the perfect send off for Chadwick and I think he would’ve been so proud.
The entire crew has said that making this movie helped them process their grief for Chadwick's passing. I really love that about this movie, and you can absolutely feel it in every moment on the screen. It's crazy to hear some of the stories, like how even in his early MCU roles, people would notice that he was needing to spend more time than most in the warming tent... his cancer was impacting him even then. And yet he did not go quietly into that good night. He pushed to give the world a powerful character to remember even after he was gone. I don't know that anyone else could have truly formed T'chala into the symbol that he did through his drive and dedication. Even here in Seattle, I see murals with his likeness on them. It really shows just how powerful his impact was.
"A man who has not prepared his children for his own death has failed as a father" ~King T'Chaka ❤
That’s bs. No child can ever be prepared for the untimely loss of his/her parents. I know that very well. The same as how no parent will ever be prepared for an untimely loss of a child. There’s something wrong with you or you weren’t close to your parents if you don’t feel deep pain from losing them. Especially losing them to cancer. That’s how I lost both of my parents.
@@diegofonseca6708 Thats an oversimplification, I think the quote is more complex than that. To prepare a child for his/her parent(s) death doesnt mean prepare them to not feel pain when the time comes. I think it means to do one's best as a parent to give children the tools to survive in a world even after the parents are gone. To raise them to be independant, to "keep going", even though it hurts,, to understand that death is part of life, and not being afraid of it. Again, it doesnt mean that the loss will "hurt less", its more complex than that.
I lost my sister, so this film really affected me in ways I was not expecting it to. At its core this movie is the story of a sister who lost her brother. I understand how losing your sibling destroys you. Especially when your sibling happens to double as your best friend.
I believe this film was truly incredible. Oh my God, Letitia Wright went through so many ranges of emotions so freaking effortlessly Grief, Anger, Apathy, Empathy and finally Peace! T'Challa character mean a lot to many people I was so happy they gave him a legacy to live on in.
🤣🤣 Jane briefly turns into Palpatine was great! Great reaction 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Do it!!! 😂
And the oscar goes to ... Angela Bassett.
Great performance from her.
36:18 Different plant - the vibranium turned that plant blue, the heart-shaped herb is purple
I think his wings will grow back because in the comics he had them.
Yep
My mother died from similarly to Chadwick Boseman from complications from cancer a few years ago, and like Chadwick she kept the fact that she knew she was dying from us until a couple days before she died. So it was very hard to watch this movie, not just because of my mother, but because Chadwick Boseman and the character of T’Challa are my heroes.
But it was still a beautiful and cathartic movie to watch. And coming out of the theater I met a family of 10 black people who like me were wearing all white out of respect for Chadwick and T’Challa, we talked about how much we loved the movie and afterwards they let me take a picture of them with their phone in front of the Wakanda Forever poster. One of the most beautiful and cathartic nights of my life.
As for the story itself, I loved it. People think that Namor is the villain but he’s not. The real villain is white, European imperialism. Throughout history European empires plundered other nations for either resources or for slaves. Even though it’s 2023 it’s absolutely believable that either Russia, China or the U.S. would look for any excuse to dismantle non hostile nations just to rob them of their resources. The Contessa herself is a perfect example, she’s practically salivating at the idea of America owning all the vibranium in Wakanda. Everything Namor did was because he wanted to prevent what has happened throughout human history to happen to Talocan.
And I still cry my eyes out at the end with T’Challa’s son telling Shuri his real name. Rest In Power Chadwick.
Jane turning evil when the princess was stabbed had me dying 😂❤️
"A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts."
-Vision
CB, you will never be forgotten. All I can say is thank you for the memories.
The second in command is Namora it’s Namor cousin she’s actually supposed to have the same powers as him.
Shuri definitely had fight training. As you said, she fought in the first "Black Panther" movie, and she also took part in the battle against Thanos in "Endgame". Nakia's absence during the events of "Infinity War"/"Endgame" make sense now that we know that she and T'Challa had a son together. I appreciated that for Shuri, her victory over Namor wasn't her beating him in a one-on-one fist-fight; it was a match that really came about because of her intelligence & planning. Even at the end when she's able to cripple Namor, it's not because of anything she does with her strength or fight capability; it's using the exhaust from the ship to burn him. It's all tangible and within her character & arc.
She had training but it was obvious her training had not been anywhere near her brother's. I thought her getting her ass handed to her in a fight with fighter as experienced and as powerful as Namor was very realistic. In the end it was Shuri's strength - her technology - her personal strength and her heart that allowed her to win their fight.
I lost my twin sister Audrey to cancer last year 💔 😢. This movie resonates with me. It's very hard, but we have great memories.
We're so sorry about your sister. JV lost his little brother in a terrible accident. I swear this movie hit a different spot for the people who have gone through the pain. Losing a sibling is so unnatural, and the feelings aren't validated by other movies. xo
“Pull it out and put it in” omg 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
Did you guys catch when Naimor said he is a mutant? That's why he's not blue.
the scene with M'baku challenging for the throne is basically him being playful and announcing he is now King, Shuri is leaving the throne to him, while she is the black panther. (just like T'challa was black panther while his father was King during Civil War) honestly he is the perfect leader for Wakanda and exactly what it needs in its trying times!
1:03:55 In the making of wakanda forever in disney+, they said her suit was based off 2 panther suits. The gold is from her father's panther suit, and the silver is from her brother's panther suit.
"Give 'em the shocker!"
She thought we wouldn't notice, but we did.
black panther wakanda forever is one of the best movie in phase 4
I love that you both cry during the emotional scenes. So far I've only seen women openly crying from the other reactors for Wakanda Forever. Its nice to see a man be open about that.
Also u both are so cute
15:28 "You gotta have rhythm" LMAO.
Namor is the first mutant in the comics. Not the fictional world but the first mutant character created. This was sort of a retcon in the story of how they defined mutants but officially Namor is a mutant and when created in 1939 they did not have a word for what he was so it was not until the 50s did they call him a mutant and that term became part of Marvel comics.
Did you
Guys notice Prince T’Challa was one of the children that guided the Queen to Nakia.
I still can't understand why with so much reliable information about western colonialism written on books and internet, people still dislike Killmonger and Namor. They are the good guys, not the villains as they portrait them.
They're the antagonists and the opposition and the aggressive offense but colonialism is definitely the villain.
I'd just love to say I love how humane both of you are, how bothered y'all seem to be when an innocent get attacked or when someone dies
There was a deleted scene where Angela Bassett as Queen Ramonda did get to meet little T'Challa. Of course, for obvious reasons, the scene was deleted so that the reveal in theaters would be as it was to the fans.
Although the filmmakers and Angela believed that the Queen meeting her grandson was a beautiful and heartwarming scene, everyone agreed that it was best to take it out and show him at the end credits scene.
The original idea for the film was going to be about TChalla trying to continue his role as Black Panther while being a father to his new son.
This movie had me in tears so many times and then the end credit hit and I was sobbing so hard. My Grandson Ayan was devastated when Chadwick passed away because for the first time he had a super hero that was the same as him. He loved Black Panther and to have a Grandson to have a super hero to look up to that in its self was amazing. Rest In Peace Chadwick you may be gone but you will never be forgotten. 😍
I just happen to live in Chadwick’s hometown of Anderson, South Carolina. this man has done soo much for the local communities & kids down here. Wakanda Forever, My King 🤴🏿🙅🏼♂️🍻
The girl also audition for the role of Shuri in the first movie
9:34 Yup, that is Aya. The one who became General of the Dora Milaje after Okoye was told to give up her rank and position.
Not only was she the one who helped Bucky in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, but remember how she was first introduced? Back in Civil War, she was the one who told Black Widow, "Move, or you will be moved."
T'Challa ended up stepping in to break off that potential fight with a simple, "As entertaining that would be..." before politely addressing Nat.
Ayo ******
Jane - the hair, the makeup, it's all working sooo much! Saw this in theaters twice and balled both times.
I could hardly see my Google search through my tears but I had to know if Chadwick had a baby we didn’t know about…cause how’d they find such a perfect kid actor? 😢🥺😖
Apocalypse is the first mutant. Namor is the first mutant to appear in comics.
Shuri has the same training as T'Challa. That is often forgotten.
Jane: 'Damn it Michael B Jordan'
hahahahahahahahaha i laughed so hard
En el detras de camaras el director explica porqué se ve oscuro en el fondo marino no llega luz de la superficie y las escenas estan grabadas bajo el agua no como aquaman
I have to admit, Val is one of them humans that make you want to side with Namor
This one hurt so good! Also, did you guys know you’re in the Disney Plus Mandalorian promo? I was watching it with my husband and I saw you guys and screamed I KNOW THEM! It scared the crap out of him, but I’ve made him watch reactions of yours so often that he knew who you too. So me, and my flip phone husband recognized you on Disney Plus. And that just makes me smile. 😊 😂
Griot (the AI) was voiced by Trevor Noah.
Rip chadwick and Angela deserves all the awards she killed it and it good seeing shuri kill her role as well taking on a very heavy mantle. That scene where she cries when toussaint tells her his wakandan name gets me
This movie is how you honor someone in my opinion you could not have just recast Tchalla in this movie and ignore the fact that chadwick boseman died
The pull it out n put It in had me laughing so much
I loved this movie! The cast a crew had such a tough job pushing forward after their lead actor passes (rip Chadwick). They also knew what ever decision they made weather it was make Shuri the new BP or recast T'Challa there was going to be people on either side complaining. Still Ryan Coogler delivered a beautiful movie imo and Angela Bassett deserves every award she's getting. Great reaction guys!
JV during the ads: "The S Squad, the....the James Gunn one"
Had me rolling 🤣
JV: U gotta have rhythm to break in
Jane: What?
🤣
For the six months before this movie came out, I was living Shuri’s story. Some days, I still do. The loss of Ramonda nearly broke me in the theater. I saw me in Shuri’s grief. While the loss was a lot for me on a personal level, I think it was important for pushing Shuri to her full potential. She would have left the hard decisions to her mother as she had been for a year instead of stepping into her power. She and Letitia Wright had to earn the mantle through the hardships and grief and I think they did it.
My name is Zuri. When I saw Wakanda Forever, I was a 22 year old neuroscience/data science student, and had just learned from a DNA test that I'm descended from a tribe in present-day Kenya (which Wakanda encompasses part of in the MCU lore) that spoke the Xhosa language (spoken in Wakanda). When the first Black Panther came out, I had just gotten into an Ivy League university, so my family said that I was "their Shuri" (and of course when I arrived on campus and started meeting people, at least 1 in 5 times I told someone my name they said "oh, like in Black Panther!")
My mom, Rhonda, died of a brain tumor when I was 15. She was diagnosed when I was 10. At the very end, it basically made her "forget" how to breathe such that she couldn't clear fluid from her lungs- she essentially drowned in her own body.
When I realized Ramonda was dead, I looked over at my dad, calmly said "I can't do it", and burst into tears. The movie had been close to home even before that happened- long story about a buff Hispanic "bad boy" and my jaded older cousin (I wish I was making this up but I'm serious)- but her death was the emotional equivalent of being punched in the face. I was stunned. It was the third time I'd left a Marvel film crying because I was triggered. I saw Infinity War the day after I was in the ER for inexplicable neurological symptoms that my terrified mind thought "brain tumor", and Peter Parker's "I don't wanna go" before being dusted reminded me of myself, a terrified teenager that didn't know what was happening and didn't want to die. Tony Stark's blank stare after he did the Snap in Endgame looked exactly like my mom's the last time I saw her.
I still haven't tried to watch the whole thing again. It being broken up in reaction videos means that it's not immersive enough for me to get triggered (and also I know it's coming), but I'll never forget leaving a 9 hour Black Friday retail shift only to be emotionally curb stomped for almost 3 hours by a damn superhero movie.
What really hits hard, but is also so honorable is that I believe every tear shed in this movie is 💯 real.
Shuri’s comment about the AI. I was wondering the same thing the first time I watched this (what about ultron?). Then I remember that Tony and Banner built The Ultron AI using the mind stone in the scepter. Since the infinity stones no longer exists in this universe, the only AIs we know now are entirely passive such as Karen, FRIDAY, and JARVIS.
Vision is still out there though, and I'm not quite sure what he thinks of the world anymore
@@mylightobscures you mean Cataract. I think that’s how you spell it
woah, is that from the comics? Cool name, considering
@@mylightobscures i'm very curious as to how they will continue vision's story now that he doesn't have the mind stone but still has old vision's memories.
in New Orleans we celebrate our loved ones passings w a second line. I didn’t realize it wasn’t normal until tv.
Angella Basett is an amazing actress no matter what she is in including the tv show 911 as the cop Athena. I was shocked that they killed her off in this movie because of how big an actress she is.
She Was Also In Bumblebee and Pixar's Soul
The word 'griot' is pronounced GREE-yoh. The griot was a tribe's history-keeper, which would be committed to memory, and recited as needed.
I'm rewatching this again, and I just want the both of you to know that ya'll are my top favourite reactors for Marvel stuff on youtube. Because you both appreciate films with black main characters on a special level. Seeing JV tearing up and being openly vulnerable with his feelings like, that's amazing. I don't see that everywhere. I look forward to seeing more from you both. I can't wait for your reactions on Across the Spiderverse!!
The hello fresh bit should definitely be a SNL skit... hilarious.
I don't really like the interpretation that the reveal of T'Challa son is the sign for the 'REAL' Black Panther future is set up. Its such a disservice to what Shuri has to go through to be Black Panther and the fact that she just received the roll. (Plus implying that Shuri isn't worthy or the real Black Panther.)
I just think that the reveal of Toussaint helps Shuri to realize that she isn't alone and that she still has family.
I loved the post-credit scene. We lost T'Challa and yet T'Challa lives on.
Tchalla was dead for 5 years after Infinity War so that would have been perfect to honor Chadwick then and have a post credit scene when Tchalla gets blipped back then he’s off to endgame. They honored Chadwick but Tchalla is still alive and they can recast him through the multiverse in Secret Wars
I don’t like tchalla jr. Nakia is a single mom, Tchalla jr is not a comic character
Only the ancestors of bass can take the heart shaped herb anyone else the herb will kill them
The power of the heart shaped herb is that it heals all wounds and diseases
The heart shaped herb gives you everything you need it connects you to all the panthers before you
And you can gain all there knowledge and powers and experience
Jane is super dark lol I love it
Beautiful tribute to Chadwick😇😢💘🙏😇And a Great Intro to the Submariner
It's not fair to compare the underwater scenes in "Wakanda Forever" to the "underwater" scenes in James Wan's "Aquaman" movie because they were filmed COMPLETELY differently. The underwater scenes in "Wakanda Forever" were actually filmed under the water, while the ones in "Aquaman" were NOT. The reason the characters' hair "moved better" in "Aquaman" is because it was 100% special effects. The scenes of Aquaman in Zach Snyder's "Batman v Superman," on the other hand, were actually filmed under the water, and they look VERY similar to he scenes in this movie.
James Wan filmed all of the "underwater" scenes for the Aquaman movie using a process called "dry for wet," which is exactly what it sounds like. The scenes were filmed in a dry environment (on a soundstage) and edited later using VFX to create the entire underwater atmosphere, world and kingdom, as well as re-creating/replicating all of the characters' hair. The actors had their hair slicked and tied back so the VFX artists could more easily recreate/replicate it.
Since Ryan Coogler chose to film underwater for "Wakanda Forever," a massively important part of the pre-production process involved months and months of preparation and practice by the actors, spent learning various breathing techniques so they could breathe as long as possible underwater. The actress who played Namora ended up being able to hold her breathe for more than 6 minutes, which is just INSANE!
Y’all make me cry watching this with you guys ❤️📌love you guys content it help people who can’t afford it get to watch a little bit with you guys love from Chicago
You guys edited out the most compelling scene of the film... Angela Bassett's dialogue
After I watch this movie last November when it came out, I went straight home and listen to Rihanna's Lift Me Up song and cry all over again
I loved this movie and thoroughly loved watching this with you both!
Namor is the first mutant as in publication date. He was one of the first if not the first Marvel superheroes.
Well, he is the first issue of Timely Comics, alongside the Human Torch Android. Together with Captain America, they were considered the Big Three of the Timely Comics era.
"oh sheet, HAHA they were married?!😆"
*the next scene*
"😭"
I wanted even more Namor. He was great along with most of the cast (jld mailed it in). Yes he was a bit too aggressive, but was mostly down with his cause.
I’ve been waiting for this reaction. I’m still processing what happened in this movie, and I love how they honoured Chadwick, it was so emotional. I cried with you guys as well 😭
The reason that they did not prepare for the attack on Wakanda is because they were overconfident and believed that they were safe. Okoye said that after Namor's first visit that it would never happen again. Wrong, lol!
1:11:40
J.V: No, that's not the way! 🥺😇💗
Jane: YES THIS IS THE WAY🔥👿😡💢
Lmaooo I love you guys' dynamic😂
The more I watch reactions to this, the more I realize how much easier it is to understand Namor when you are latin american. He is absolutely right when he says that "surface people" - we know exactly what quota of people but he doesn't differenciate and that is is his error - would come for them. They would. If Talocan sis and waits, US and EU governments would start bombing his cities with no remorse to take the vibranium and call it a "defensive war". We've seen this happen. Many times. Damn, France does that to a Wakandian outpost in the beggining of the movie.
Namor's methods may not be right, but he's not in a position to be merciful. And I don't think people without the background of a colonized country can really grasp this so easily.
Besides, I can really picture the discourse: "The Talokani are sooo tired of living underwater isolated, we are setting them freeee allowing them to enjoy the wonders of a life in the surface world!!!""
Add propaganda to it and they could even get some Talokani to agree. It's all a repeat movie from the real life.
8:49 It was only showcased for a few seconds in the opening intro for when Okoye steps in. Even though they wear vibranium armor to protect themselves from stray bullets. I'm glad you noticed how they actually used their spears to deflect some of the shots fired at them.
Their training is that intense and their reflexes are so honed that they basically could be Jedi at this point. They are that skilled.
JV: @ 3:34 "a lot of tears"
Subscribers: Isn't that every video you put out!
This is Killmonger a villain! When someone shows you who they are,
BELIEVE THEM! Thats
What makes the character.
15:38 THE FUNNIEST JOKE ON THE CHANNEL SO FAR
Great positive channel! Thanks for the great video and great vibes!
When i saw it in theaters i held it together all the way until when the son appeared then all tears started flowing from my eyes
This movie was the first one that made me cry after overcoming my emotional and psychological problems (before I couldn't show any emotions, it was like I had no feelings), and I'm glad that happened. Chadwick Boseman was a really good actor and a very good person, we will miss him.
The carrot thing was was Winston Duke's idea! They wanted him to eat something, but he suggested a carrot
I'm🤞that Angela will win her first Oscar!!!
I WAS SOBBING THROUGHOUT THIS FULL MOVIE 😭😭😭😭😭
I saw this movie three times in theaters.
" I am Queen of the most powerful nation in the world, and my entire family is gone, have i not given everything!"
"VENGEANCE HAS CONSUMED YOU, IT'S CONSUMING THEM"
39:00 Apocalypse IS the first mutant. Namor is the very first Marvel character ever to appear in a comic and is a mutant. So Namor is the first mutant to ever appear in a comicbook but in-universe, Apocalypse was born thousands of years before him.
Hope you two are having an great and awesome day ❤️
1:27:26
Regarding the Ancestral Plane
As far as I remember, from the way T'Challa initially explained the way 'death' worked in Wakandan culture, it didn't seem like the Ancestral Plane was exclusive to previous Black Panthers-- I feel like any Wakandan should be able to go there after passing. So I don't see any reason why Rowanda wouldn't go to their afterlife aswell
A good example of a non-Black Panther (as far as we know) appearing in the Ancestral Plane is Killmonger's father (whose name escapes me right now; T'Chaka's brother, T'Challa's uncle) who appeared to him when he became a Black Panther in the first movie.
Actually, it's kind of interesting-- I'd never really thought about it but since death is so present in this film...
When Namor's people initially took their version of the Herb, in his explanation, he essentially said they'd died, before they resuscitated... and Black Panthers briefly get to visit the Ancestral Plane when they take their Herb... along with Shuri's half-joke about how she didn't want to be buried when taking it incase of cardiac arrest...
Huh.
Shuri is the smartest in the MCU,smarter than Tony,banner, everyone
One of the best movies I've ever watched, can't stop crying in some scenes 👌 thank you for the great reactions as always.