Jock was 100% right! When he says “Bobby has a lot to learn Ray. Trouble is, he doesn’t know it yet” He knew that it was just a matter of time before he lays a smack down on Bobby that Bobby will never be able to shake! Great acting and writing. Back when men acted like real men.
"Ewing Oil Is Mine, I Started It I Worked It!" He also could have said I also saved The Southfork as well, I took it from a Little Cottage to the House it is today.
Jock was the one man JR totally looked up to. A lot of his character was about pleasing ‘Daddy’ and his relationship to him. He inherited Jock’s business savvy but not Jock heroic character.
Jock was the only man that JR Ewing truly respected and would never betray. JR even went toe to toe with John Ross in the reboot. JR did a lot of very shady questionable things while Jock was alive i.e. mortgaging SouthFork for the Asian Oil leases but it was all about making Jock proud and that JR was showing his daddy that he loved Ewing Oil just as much as he did and wanted to turn it into the biggest independent oil company in the Southwest. I think that’s what made fans understand the character and showed that JR was a three dimensional character and that he did love his family (with the exception of Ray and Gary of course) lol
You really see how Jock can be a "Bundle Of Contradictions". In the First Episode Of The Five Part Mini Series he talked about how happy he was that Bobby was joining The Business and how good it is that he takes on responsibility. Now that Bobby is running Ewing Oil, he acts like Bobby isn't doing things right.
Its called a courtesy, if your kid is running a company, you don't screw him over. That's exactly what Jock did. For someone who said the Ewings are all one, in everything together, then either Jock goes back to work or lets JR or Bobby or JR/Bobby run the company without his interference. Once Jock turned it over, he needed to let it go. Tearing Bobby down in public doesn't help when either he or JR are running things and Jock is out of the picture, it makes them loose face to others, especially at that bar. If I was going to make a deal with a company where the parent took money out of accounts any time he wanted to, I'd drop it because I'd have to idea if the deal we shook on would hold.
Yes, and remember in The First Part of what was a Five Part Miniseries where Jock was outside "Smoking". Then when he was reading some Papers, and Jock told JR to stay out of "Bobby's & Pam's Business" when Jenna Wade #1 (Then played by Morgan Fairchild), came back into Bobby's Life. JR retorted "Daddy all of your life you've fought Bobby's Battles for him, don't you think it's time that he learned to fight his own."
Jock was a strong character and his death changed the course of Dallas. JR was his daddy's son more than Bobby. JR never yelled at Jock and Jock taught him at an early age what to do and not to do especially keeping Jock's business to himself which Bobby didn't like. Bobby was spoiled and when he couldn't get his way, he'd threaten to leave south fork.
Maybe so but JR wasn't a saint and he wasn't always in Jock's "Good Books". Remember the time when JR did a major deal and put up Southfork as Collateral. They almost lost everything including Southfork but they were able to save it on the hair of their chinny chin chin. Bobby was ranching but Jock wanted him back at The Office to keep an eye on things. Jock was right that Bobby had a lot to learn but at least Bobby always tried to do things by the Book where JR was very "sneaky".
No. JR was basically a sycophant - he worshipped the ground Jock walked on, and Jock used that. I always believed that it bordered on abusive (who knows how many times Jock overruled JR on business deals prior to the beginning of the series), and JR responded indirectly by graduating from ruthlessness to outright cruelty over time, to the point where even Jock saw that without some sort of oversight, it'd wreck the company, which is why he always wanted Bobby there as a check. Bobby on the other hand had a sense of right and wrong and he had every right to call out Jock as he did. He underestimated how ruthless Jock could really be - though the real icing on the cake in that follow up scene is the reaction from Jock; pondering, "Shit. What have I done?" - great acting on the part of the late Jim Davis. And as for Bobby leaving Southfork, there really was nothing left to do. JR did something out of pettyness (closing an oil field which both Jock and Digger shared rights to) which Jock agreed with (he was after all angry and Cliff Barnes for having him arrested for murder), and Bobby called him out on the absurdity. Frankly I think Jock gained more respect for Bobby for showing the Ewing 'guts' after all.
Yes. Sometimes I feel that Jock dangled his love in front of JR like a piece of Raw Meat in front of a Starving Dog. I remember when Ray, Bobby & JR came back and had to tell Miss Ellie that Jock had died. JR went outside and looked up at the Sky as if to say "Whatever I did with my life Daddy right or wrong, I just wanted you to love me and to be proud of me"
He threatened to leave and would have followed through with it. He would only threaten to leave because he had to jolt them into straightening up. If it were not for Bobby, the moral compass of the entire Ewing clan, the family would have probably become more corrupt than the GOP lol. P.S. I don't read replies in case anyone reading this wants to fight. I said what I had to say, but I won't read anything else or engage in a battle. Peace out.
CV SoG Bobby was too much of a saint, J.R. was right to shut down Ewing 23 after everything Cliff Barnes did to the Ewing family(a move Jock agreed with) Bobby was the favorite son, but J.R. was much more like Jock.
It's so sad Jim Davis got sick and passed away when he did. This storyline had to be rushed and we never got to see where Takapa was really going to go.
Jock was the second best character next to JR that made and sustained DALLAS for its entire run. The Jock character was still a force to be reckoned with even after Jim Davis passed away in the spring of 1981. In the three short yrs that he was alive, he still was the patriarch of the EWING family. I never did get used to howard Keel's Clayton Farlow. Clayton was basically was used as a filler. Never had a beefy storyline and always played 2nd banana. I never found myself rooting for him.
This was a soap opera. They live off conflict. Having Clayton live with JR after Clayton had helped Sue Ellen keep John Ross away from JR was bound to create conflict.
SHAWN MICHAEL Duncan I agree. It should have worked. But J.R. wants it all, including the ranch, even though he's not a rancher He doesn't want to be challenged by anyone.
Bobby is so stupid..There is no Lake Tecapa..He should have told the banker and his dad that he was being lied to. Who's gonna invest $10M in the late 1970s/early 1980s at any lake resort..Even Lake Tahoe Harrah's would cost less than that! That was sorry writing..You buy smaller oil companies for $10M in the late 1970s..Not build a resort.
I love Jock's character so much that I even think that Dallas was one thing until his disapperance and another after that. Jim Davs served so well.
jock was the toughest old coot I loved his character. rip jim davis.
1:19 Jock’s portrait!! 🖼️
Never tell Jock what to do
Jock was the ultimate Dad...
LOVE THAT LION HEAD NECKLACE Jim Davis is Wearing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jock was 100% right! When he says “Bobby has a lot to learn Ray. Trouble is, he doesn’t know it yet” He knew that it was just a matter of time before he lays a smack down on Bobby that Bobby will never be able to shake! Great acting and writing. Back when men acted like real men.
"Trouble is, he don't know it yet."...
"Ewing Oil Is Mine, I Started It I Worked It!" He also could have said I also saved The Southfork as well, I took it from a Little Cottage to the House it is today.
REST IN HEAVEN, JIM DAVIS!!!
Jock was amazing
that first scene that mustve used for the jock portrait.
Jason Sapp, I agree
Jason Sapp yes this was the portrait scene ! Jock 1981
Jock is The Man!!!!! 🐎🐎🐎🐎....
Loved Bobby's character the only man to stand up and shout back at Jock and I think Jock admired Bobby for that
What Bobby should've said at the end was "Connie, I'm going to the Cattleman's Club to get my ass handed to me by my Daddy".
Hahaha! 😄
When bobby always handed J.R.s to him
Jock was the one man JR totally looked up to. A lot of his character was about pleasing ‘Daddy’ and his relationship to him. He inherited Jock’s business savvy but not Jock heroic character.
Jock was the only man that JR Ewing truly respected and would never betray. JR even went toe to toe with John Ross in the reboot. JR did a lot of very shady questionable things while Jock was alive i.e. mortgaging SouthFork for the Asian Oil leases but it was all about making Jock proud and that JR was showing his daddy that he loved Ewing Oil just as much as he did and wanted to turn it into the biggest independent oil company in the Southwest. I think that’s what made fans understand the character and showed that JR was a three dimensional character and that he did love his family (with the exception of Ray and Gary of course) lol
Bobby got Jocks heroic quality and JR got his ruthless businessman side
Bobby did not have Jock's sense when it came women.
or jocks toughness.
You really see how Jock can be a "Bundle Of Contradictions". In the First Episode Of The Five Part Mini Series he talked about how happy he was that Bobby was joining The Business and how good it is that he takes on responsibility. Now that Bobby is running Ewing Oil, he acts like Bobby isn't doing things right.
Its called a courtesy, if your kid is running a company, you don't screw him over. That's exactly what Jock did. For someone who said the Ewings are all one, in everything together, then either Jock goes back to work or lets JR or Bobby or JR/Bobby run the company without his interference. Once Jock turned it over, he needed to let it go. Tearing Bobby down in public doesn't help when either he or JR are running things and Jock is out of the picture, it makes them loose face to others, especially at that bar. If I was going to make a deal with a company where the parent took money out of accounts any time he wanted to, I'd drop it because I'd have to idea if the deal we shook on would hold.
Airdate: January 9, 1981
Matt Beeman the first scene was the portrait scene
@@jasonraczkowski6001 filmed at Southfork in Texas, summer 1980. Jim didn’t know he had cancer until autumn 1980.
Ray's Jock's Son as well - it was obvious from the likenesses.
So much!
Notice the cigarettes in Ray's pocket between 1:20 and 1:25
Yes, and remember in The First Part of what was a Five Part Miniseries where Jock was outside "Smoking". Then when he was reading some Papers, and Jock told JR to stay out of "Bobby's & Pam's Business" when Jenna Wade #1 (Then played by Morgan Fairchild), came back into Bobby's Life. JR retorted "Daddy all of your life you've fought Bobby's Battles for him, don't you think it's time that he learned to fight his own."
Jock was a strong character and his death changed the course of Dallas. JR was his daddy's son more than Bobby. JR never yelled at Jock and Jock taught him at an early age what to do and not to do especially keeping Jock's business to himself which Bobby didn't like. Bobby was spoiled and when he couldn't get his way, he'd threaten to leave south fork.
Maybe so but JR wasn't a saint and he wasn't always in Jock's "Good Books". Remember the time when JR did a major deal and put up Southfork as Collateral. They almost lost everything including Southfork but they were able to save it on the hair of their chinny chin chin. Bobby was ranching but Jock wanted him back at The Office to keep an eye on things. Jock was right that Bobby had a lot to learn but at least Bobby always tried to do things by the Book where JR was very "sneaky".
No. JR was basically a sycophant - he worshipped the ground Jock walked on, and Jock used that. I always believed that it bordered on abusive (who knows how many times Jock overruled JR on business deals prior to the beginning of the series), and JR responded indirectly by graduating from ruthlessness to outright cruelty over time, to the point where even Jock saw that without some sort of oversight, it'd wreck the company, which is why he always wanted Bobby there as a check.
Bobby on the other hand had a sense of right and wrong and he had every right to call out Jock as he did. He underestimated how ruthless Jock could really be - though the real icing on the cake in that follow up scene is the reaction from Jock; pondering, "Shit. What have I done?" - great acting on the part of the late Jim Davis.
And as for Bobby leaving Southfork, there really was nothing left to do. JR did something out of pettyness (closing an oil field which both Jock and Digger shared rights to) which Jock agreed with (he was after all angry and Cliff Barnes for having him arrested for murder), and Bobby called him out on the absurdity. Frankly I think Jock gained more respect for Bobby for showing the Ewing 'guts' after all.
Yes. Sometimes I feel that Jock dangled his love in front of JR like a piece of Raw Meat in front of a Starving Dog. I remember when Ray, Bobby & JR came back and had to tell Miss Ellie that Jock had died. JR went outside and looked up at the Sky as if to say "Whatever I did with my life Daddy right or wrong, I just wanted you to love me and to be proud of me"
He threatened to leave and would have followed through with it. He would only threaten to leave because he had to jolt them into straightening up. If it were not for Bobby, the moral compass of the entire Ewing clan, the family would have probably become more corrupt than the GOP lol.
P.S. I don't read replies in case anyone reading this wants to fight. I said what I had to say, but I won't read anything else or engage in a battle. Peace out.
CV SoG Bobby was too much of a saint, J.R. was right to shut down Ewing 23 after everything Cliff Barnes did to the Ewing family(a move Jock agreed with) Bobby was the favorite son, but J.R. was much more like Jock.
Jock was the best
1burnman I have a good idea to
Dallas TV show needed jock he kept everyone together
Miss Ellie the best
It's so sad Jim Davis got sick and passed away when he did. This storyline had to be rushed and we never got to see where Takapa was really going to go.
Jock was the second best character next to JR that made and sustained DALLAS for its entire run. The Jock character was still a force to be reckoned with even after Jim Davis passed away in the spring of 1981. In the three short yrs that he was alive, he still was the patriarch of the EWING family. I never did get used to howard Keel's Clayton Farlow. Clayton was basically was used as a filler. Never had a beefy storyline and always played 2nd banana. I never found myself rooting for him.
I agree. Remarrying Ellie was a bad idea. They should have had her be like Victoria Barkley.
I liked liked clayton. farlow, he didn't have jock business savvy but had a nice voice , good man the they family could respect him
This was a soap opera. They live off conflict. Having Clayton live with JR after Clayton had helped Sue Ellen keep John Ross away from JR was bound to create conflict.
Jock Ewing was the man!!
J.R. had an 'Iago' complex, he was jealous of his brothers, Gary, and even the brother he was the closest to, Bobby.
JR was such a Happy Camper when he had One On One Time with Daddy.
True! Lol
JR should been given the company Bobby the ranch. There would of been less rivalry.
SHAWN MICHAEL Duncan I agree. It should have worked. But J.R. wants it all, including the ranch, even though he's not a rancher He doesn't want to be challenged by anyone.
Bobby is so stupid..There is no Lake Tecapa..He should have told the banker and his dad that he was being lied to. Who's gonna invest $10M in the late 1970s/early 1980s at any lake resort..Even Lake Tahoe Harrah's would cost less than that! That was sorry writing..You buy smaller oil companies for $10M in the late 1970s..Not build a resort.
The Jock Ewing character was poorly written. His character was made to be stupid.