Nobels ODR Shootout! - ODR-1 Vs. ODR-Mini
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
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Nice to hear the "Footprints" melody played in an overdrive pedal demo!
I have the mini for a couple of weeks now and it's a love story... Congratulations to the Nobels team! The price is great too
yes.. that was cool..
I have the mini for a few weeks now and it has become my favorite overdrive pedal and I have quite a few of them. Cleans up so nice and when you lower the level on a higher gain setting the gain stays stable and doesn't lose the drive signal. So much great tone.😄
Thank you very much! Regards from the Nobels team
One of the really big reasons the Nobels OD is a Nashville gem, is that when you have a really great Tele or Strat tone to begin with, it transparently accentuates that tone so you hear your guitar’s character, not the pedal.
Well put, I have often thought the same.
Well.... now I have to get one hehe!
There is a small, but consistent difference between them. The mini has more cut, while the full-size pedal is more rounded and the highs/mids/lows seems more incorporated together rather than separate frequency spectrums. I’m being ultra-critical here mind.
Nearly identical sounding on the system I'm listening on. I just hear slightly more low mids on the full size but it's near to indistinguishable. I would buy the mini.
You should check out Nordland Electronics, hes the founder of the ODR-1 and he put out a new version the ODR-C it´s a game changer in my opinion just got mine in the mail and it does evrything the ODR-1 does and on top even more cool things like a overdrive de compress knob
Dig it! Especially the mini one has true bypass.
I can't believe you're doing a video on tone. Your tone sounds like someone farting through a violin
The full size version has an internal bass cut switch. Maybe the mini hasn’t.
May have to order a mini...these sound fantastic . I'm addicted to overdrive pedals. Thanks .
I'm addicted to overdrive pedals too but the difference between them is so minute, they all end up sounding about the same. Your listener probably wouldn't know the difference.
Great sounding pedals.
Thanks, lago! Regards from the Nobels team
I own a mid-90s original ODR-1. I played music all over the SE US for 25 years. I've used almost every OD/distortion pedal on the market (pre-2010). I really "like" my Nobels, but for the f-ing life of me I cannot understand the religious zeal with which this pedal is regarded. YES! It sounds good. But so do so many other pedals. I've never been one to run with the crowd, and my favorite OD pedals on Earth are the two incarnations of a little-regarded pedal by Ibanez - the Tube King. A Tube King through a cranked Fender Vibrolux Reverb or Pro Reverb is absolute Heaven. I've been offered $1500 for my ODR-1, which is tempting.
How many Tube Kings can you buy for $1500?
@@OgamiItto70 LOL....probably 20.
Ordered a Mini last week. Can’t wait to use it 😎🎸
The best pedal I have ever used and I've owned 100s of them. 👍
I have been thinking about the Mini now I know! Gracias
The only real differences you're hearing is component tolerance. If they rated at + or - 5% there can be as much as 10% difference overall which is audible especially in gain, however in a band situation it's a non issue.
Would have been nice to hear some neck pickup demo, but great sounds overall. Thanks
Have seen some comments that say it's not good with the neck PU'P. Most demos seem to stay away from the neck (maybe that's why) but still going thru them all to see. Probably won't stop me from getting one in any event!
Sounds great Jim!!
Vaughn ?
Buffered bypass/true bypass and mini is crisper sounding and the original is a bit warmer, I think those are the only differences in my opinion.
I guess I'm not the most sensitive interpreter of tone, but I'm not hearing any difference. Could just be the way You Tube reproducers sound on it's vidz. . Both pedals sound painfully awesome. I smell a mini version in my future. (Good job on the demo.)
They're not really supposed to sound different; the ODR 1 is buffered bypass with a choice of high or low impedance, and the ODR Mini is true bypass. On both units, the spectrum control is an active filter, rather than a simple treble bleed circuit, and the Mini has a detent when centered.
is it just me or did that mini sound better then the non mini
Is the noble odr a circuit clone of Bluesbreaker, Tubescreamer or Klon Centaur?
Definitely NOT a TS Clone. It certainly lacks the zealous mid-hump of a TS. I don't know that it's a 'clone' of anything. nobels.de/history-of-odr-1?lang=en I think it's its 'own thing' that you can use to dial-in a healthy range of usable tones.
Les Caster
Link says it’s an “amp in a box” supposedly inspired by fender blackface, thanks for info 👌🏼
It's an original circuit, not a clone of anything
Great demo. Gorgeous strat.
hello, I'm curious how the UAD OX is being used in this video. Sounds good.
Sounds fizzy because it is being played through the vibrato channel on DDR .
I love those smirky smarmy fake faces
They really sound identical it seems...
Personally, I like the high end of the biggie... in the first example, with all controls at noon... the full size had more snarl on the high notes.
They sounds the same, maybe the big one has a little more low
Great Pedals. Sound Identical to me. I'd go for the Mini & may get one. Even in the Pete Thorn Video, it Sounded fantastic. Great & Fair comparison.
I can't think of a reason why they should sound different, unless having shorter distances between the components affects the tone. It doesn't.
capacitors ( size , material, tolerance) are different, they are like eq
@@olsza6969 and allegedly some minor changes due to the addition of true-bypass. but I've not really heard enough differences to think you couldn't tweak a knob and dial it right back out.
Manufacturing tolerances in the components makes identical circuits have subtle differences. No electronic part is perfectly on the money, and those components that are closer to their rated value are very expensive. So you'll always get some fudge factor in the circuit. One of the stupidest things a reviewer can do is set the knobs at the same position on equivalent units and expect them to sound exactly the same. They never will. Even the best potentiometers have +- 5% sway from ideal values, and that goes for all the internal components as well.
thank you for doing the exact thing i wanted to know.
neck pickup sound???
Footprints! Such a great tune
My boy wearing Oxfords with nice neat bows. Trying to hide his Jazz.
Unrelated comment: "Mini" does not mean "budget". It just means surface mount which ironically means "better" in 2023. Get a mini. It sounds the same.. just smaller.
Never heard of this builder but really , what is different . From the other thirty or forty out there
30 or 40 thousand.
If you’re interested in hearing some about it, I’d check out Tim Pierce. He’s used it on a bunch of famous records. Cheers friend!
It's actually more of a classic pedal at this point and Nobels is not a new builder, by any means. I'd say what sets it apart is that Nashville players have been using the ODR-1 for decades, and most other builders couldn't make the same claim about their pedals.
twins
I don't hear a difference.
first comparison. bigger one better but . . . its possible, all at noon isn't meaning that that parameter is the same
In typical internet fashion, I don't have to hear the shootout, my opinion is ready for being blurted out. Don't be a baby. Batteries are awful for the environment, you don't need them. Real foot switches are better than big wobbly plastic thingies. Pedalboard real estate is important. Even more important: You can't hear a difference. You can? No, you can't. There. Done. Get the mini.
sounds fuzzy and thin
Learn to mix. If you give an engineer your big fat guitar tone - he's going to cut it to pieces, all that bigness and fatness is going to be low cut or low shelved way out of the way. You'd be horrified by the tone on its own, but in the mix, it'd sound like a big fat strat.
Unless you're like a guitar legend and record and play solo all the time. Then you can turn up the bass on your amp one notch and have the fattest tone ever. You may even be able to wear funny looking, obscure hats.
are you homosexual . that sounded awesome !
@@travgpeters1 I don’t suck dick like you. So, no.
@@alphanumeric1529 i wear the hats regardless
Slightly more glassy
I hate this pedal, yes it's my opinion but I find nothing natural about it in all honesty it sounds like crap to me and yes I had almost every Nobels pedal on the market at one time including the ODR-1 never had the mini, tried desperately to discover its magic but the Nobels ODR-1 failed miserably.
You aren't alone. I finally got me a mini, after years of hearing the hype. I think the very reason others like this pedal may be why it doesn't gel for me. I don't play a Tele bridge pickup, so the low end on the Nobels just sounds muddy to me on my guitar. To counter the mud I'll try to increase the 'spectrum' but it also adds more lows as it adds highs, so that doesn't work. To get rid of the mud, i have to dial back the spectrum, and then I'm left with more of a mid-hump tone, like a TS. Except I've already got a TS variant that I like more, and it has treb and bass controls, so it's already more versatile.
I think this pedal would do well on single coils / bridge pups, or run through a mid-heavy amp like a Marshall.
One thing this does that none of my other pedals can do, is provide a really scooped overdrive without noise. To get close to the same on something like a Timmy, you have to crank the treb/bass controls which increases the noise floor. Problem is, most people don't need a scooped overdrive sound, or a flat sound. Most need a mid-pushed sound to cut through. So this is like a 'reverse' pedal, where you set your amp for cutting through and then you use this pedal for flattening out the mids.
I like it. The OD character isn't the best, but I like it a bit more than a Timmy. For low-gain tones I far prefer my Xotic EP Booster (which can also give you a scooped EQ, but with less control over it), or my Dano TX Trouble (a wide-freq, low gain TS with bass/treb controls). For mid-pushed boosting tones, I prefer a klon, but the Nobels does work well when you dial back the spectrum for this.
I'll probably keep this guy, just like I'll probably keep my Earthquaker Plumes, another well-hyped pedal that just seems 'OK' to me because it actually does so little. They may have use in the studio for backing rhythm tracks, or for odd needs for 'flat tone'. They also both might do OK as a '2nd channel' pedal, to turn your one channel amp into two, but I'll have to see how well they take pedals proceeding them.
Also, we all hear these were well loved in Nashville studios. They bring life to sterile tele tones. My big question on this... Didn't the engineers know how to dial in the amps in these studios? Why use pedal format overdrive in the studio when you have a real amp you can dial in better?
maybe you just need a to play it through a bc rich warlock . problem solved
I tried to get a job at Nstuff but they said I’d have to shave my head if I wanted to work there :/
The Full Size has some extra body or warmth but it's subtle difference. The mini is a nice sounding pedal and you have to love the small size for board real estate.