Edey's college coach, Matt Painter, confidently said in an interview that Edey would have gotten a guaranteed contract if he stayed in the draft after his junior season, despite those "late 2nd round" draft projections. Painter is one of the most honest and straight shooting college coaches out there. He wouldn't have just said that if he didn't have a legitimate reason to believe it.
Purdue fan here... Zach is a nice young man, smart and a hard worker. He has improved every year while at Purdue and I wish him the very best in the NBA.
I’m a Grizzlies fan and I was pretty stoked when they drafted him. I felt we had a good team to develop him. I wish we still had Adams there to help mentor him but he’s doing well!
Just watch Boban running and then watch Zach running Boban looks like he's being electrocuted. Zach is incredibly coordinated for being huge on top of being tall
4 weeks later, but you can thank his time in baseball and hockey for that. In baseball, you have to run the right way if you want to have a chance at even making it to first base, even at a high school level. Hockey's even better for running in that aspect; doing it wrong ends in you falling on your face. To even make it to that level, you have to be far more coordinated than the average person, and as long as you're active that coordination never leaves you.
Edy is a victim of the NBA's over shift to the 3 offensively. that combined with scouts not giving him credit for being relatively new to basketball and thus having a higher ceiling than other Bigs that had been playing. Edy wasn't a one and done type because he didn't start playing until like his sophomore year of high school, so he had to develop more in college as a basketball player. Kind of like Tim Duncan switching from swimming to basketball as a teenager then doing 4 years of increasing his statistical output in college. and when you play 4 years of college ball you tend to fall out of the lottery, because teams feel like you're basically done developing...him and Knecht had a similar fall in the draft, and I thought both would be good because Knecht is new to his 6'5 size and Edy is new to basketball. If Knecht is a 6'5 freshman in college instead of 6'3, he's 1 and done. If Edy had played basketball his whole life coming into college, he would have been 1 and done too.
@chevy4x466 I think the giants that suck at every part of basketball that isn't just "be tall" would love that game... everybody else would think it's boring
Are we talking about the same guy????? Then 7ft guy whose putting up maybe 15-9 for a career high season in no way is game changer unless you mean it on the smallest scale with just the grizzlies which even then is a stretch,
Rik Smits. The man started playing basketball as late as possible. He is now basically the best center in Indiana Pacers history. Why? Because you can teach a tall person how to play baskteball, and the less he knows, the more you can teach him. But you can't teach a short person to be tall.
Hes got great hands and very good footwork. At his size, he can pull down a rebound every 3 to 4 minutes without trying. He needs to learn how to defend NBA level talent night in and night out, but he's having some good nights out there, even if he is committing a lot of fouls.
Two things that always impressed me about Edey: his constant movement, setting picks and positioning himself in the lane, and his excellent free-throw stroke. Lots of seven-footers are terrible free-throw shooters, but not Zach. And he shot a LOT of free throws, often fouling out two or three players who tried to guard him!
A lot of fans and even coaches just forgot that basketball is simply about size. Guard heavy era of basketball warped the scouting reports heavily on Edey. As long as he can shoot up the court in 5 seconds he’s more than fit for the NBA.
fax I remember watching him before he was drafted and my impression of him was that he is much more mobile than he was being given credit for, so I knew straight away he was gonna be a problem
While true. What's more important than height is mobility especially in the NBA. A big that can defend the rim very well but struggles to move laterally will get exploited. What's the use of being a great shotblocker when you can't even stay in the paint. As teams will force you to move your feet and pull you out the paint.
IMO The biggest assets Edey has , is that even though he is 7ft4 he is proportional , and his very coordinated and seems to understand that he can't get too heavy and has already done work on that , unlike Zion or Shaq lol . With Wemby , my first opinion of him was he looked brittle , but in the year he has been in the league his has worked his arse off to increase his size and to take care of his flexibility. I had the same opinion with Chet as i did with Wemby , unfortunately I don't think that Che is going to be able to change much with his body , and he is now out with a hip fracture because he has no meat to protect those bones when they hit that wood floor
I feel like I remember Edey seeming like he had the potential to be a player like this while he was in college but the system Purdue was running basically didn't need him to utilize more of his mobility. I feel like you could tell that Edey had more than just a big man post game but he was just rarely ever put in a situation to further develop or showcase that.
I’m sure that painter had something in place where Edie wouldn’t contest a lot of shots down low just so he didn’t pick up fouls because he was more needed on office which is why he’s picking up more fouls now in the NBA because he’s not as needed and they’ve released him as far as that goes
i'm a spurs fan and watched the ncaa finals to have a look at stephon castle. while uconn won the game, it was quite showing that edey was the player doing the most in the game. basically carrying purdue the whole game until he couldn't anymore. meanwhile, castle didn't even break a sweat because uconn was much more evenly spread in terms of talent. after watching the game, i was quite sure that edey was correctly picked at the end of the lottery. i didn't know that media would say he's not even worth a second round pick. geez. i honestly think that a lot of nba scouts aren't doing their jobs right. normally i don't say this because i've grown out of the 'arm chair coach' phase of watching sports long ago. but between brunson, edey and luka, i honestly feel that way. these guys has played for multiple years against high competition, producing multiple years of results as their teams' best player. what more do you want to see from a player? just because they don't have super high athletism, or are a couple years older that you won't be picking them? basketball is a skill sport. them coming into the league with high skill means that you are not wasting time to teach them about stuff. but nba scouts still routinely choose players who are a couple of years younger, thinking they can realize the players natural talents, while the teams fail to give the players the chance to learn and play simultaneously. isn't it basic logic that the dangerous gamble should be choosing a player who has not played many games, but has out of the world numbers? talking about teams though, edey might not have gotten such praises if he was drafted by another team. grizzies are almost the perfect fit for edey. they have a hole on their roster that edey filled, but they don't need him to do much, while he can still produce enough for them to let him play. not a lot of teams with a hole in their roster can afford a rookie a chance to do so.
Man he's just about at 15 and 9 with only averaging 22 minutes per game up to December. Memphis is LOADED with up and coming dudes and one of the most efficient offenses in the NBA. Zach already owns an NBA rookie record from his 12/26/24 stats vs the Raptors. Edey will be a complete Dawg very soon!
The difference is in a game you don’t know where you are going beforehand and can’t practice it for weeks. You have to react. The combine results can be what they are but in an actual game he doesn’t move like those numbers say. He’s lumbering and slow with heavy feet. If he doesn’t nail his initial positioning he’s dead in the water.
When you see a college player improve each year in college, you know he is working his but off. No unnecessary comments on him should be made until after the 1st year. He continues to work hard he is going to make it in the NBA.
12:50 his foul numbers were lower in college because they told him to contest less shots to keep him out of foul trouble due to how important he was on offense
@@RustyShakleford01Yeah, and if someone so much as breathed on him, they were assessed 3 fouls. It was aggravating as hell. Yes, he's big, but over the backs just didn't exist where he was concerned.
@@A350Airways no not really. the Hawks front office is stupid for not trading Capela like 3 seasons ago, so they wouldn't have taken Edey no matter what. But over his last 7 games, Risachier is shooting 47% from the field and 39% from 3
Then why in his whole college career did he only shoot 2? Makes no sense, he should've been allowed to develop more especially in all those college games that are ridiculous blowouts. Horrible coaching at purdue to make him an inferior product. If he had an established 3pt shot he would've been drafted top 5
@@roboticvenom1935 It's because of the offense they run, and calling the coaching 'horrible' is crazy considering what that man has managed to accomplish at Purdue.
@@JSage13foolish statement. Making the final four and making the championship game are tremendous accomplishments. You sound like someone that hasn’t accomplished anything.
I remember looking at those mock drafts and thinking like why the hell Edey isn’t a top 5 pick… Sometimes we all just overthink shyt I guess..! But that was just stupid..!
All those busted big that werent ultra athletic or sharpshooters would still be in the nba if they were 7'4 lol. The reason they failed is because they werent long, tall, athletic and or strong enough to still get their shots off. Edey is all of those things other than maybe secondary lateral quickness and is more skilled than most of them were, stronger than most of them were and most importantly reads the floor and passes out of the post at a high level
I can admit when I’m wrong. I didn’t see this in him as a fit. I didn’t think he’d fit because I didn’t think he could play outside. I felt his foot speed would limit him guarding small centers but he’s shown he’s not as slow as I thought and he’s a better shooter. I didn’t see him play like this in college. Oh well I’ll own it. I got Ben Simmons, jahlil Okafor and Tyler Hansbrough (sp?) correct.
Interesting, when so called experts dismissed Zach Edey, for whatever reasons, I saw during his college years the drive and improvements to succeed in the NBA. I don't know what his injury is but up till then he's shown great potential. Another fellow Canadian, Olivier Rioux, makes me wonder if someone so tall can play in the NBA.
Olivier Rioux sucks. He doesn't have the skills nor the speed and stamina to play in the NBA. He's too tall and unathletic. That's why olivier is ranked so low and isn't even that good on his team
He sprained his ankle, and you would expect the Grizzlies to be suuuuper careful when bringing him back, because they're probably not really thinking about the regular season, they're most likely focused on the postseason.
Eddy is Nice a double double machine Reminds me alot of a young pau minus the mid range gasol had hes more similar to marc gasol good footwork and hands 🏀 💯
Nice piece, but the one thing I never hear about Edey… he’s super competitive! This kid has some sh&t in his game. Did no one see him go after Valancuinas?!
I think he will do just fine and he seems like a nice young man. Boy wouldn't it have been something if he stayed in hockey and been a winger over 7 foot tall?
I said before last year, 2023, Draft, that if Edey was in it, if I were the Mavs, I would take him in 1st round. They drafted Lively, bc they needed a center, but how much better would they have been last year with Edey underneath??
This man didn’t shoot threes in college and now he lets go without hesitation. I’m a big edey and grizzlies fan. The people who was doubting edey are looking ridiculous so far.
I always thought of Zach Edey as being at minimum a high end backup, possibly a 6th Man candidate every year but his ceiling as being the next Yao Ming. There’s just something about Edey that reminds me of him and the potential for that level of dominance. Now if he stays even just a decent 3-point shooter, then he could be Yao Ming with a 3 point shot.
"NBA draft "ANALYST" KRISTAN PEAK" Maybe someone should tell her ZACK EDEY has WAY more business being an NBA prospect.....than SHE does being a NBA "DRAFT ANALYST"
You missed the part when he played on the bronze-medal winning Team Canada at the 2023 World Cup, and he only made every single shot he took in the tourney...The Raptors would have taken him if he fell out of the lottery...
I’ll be the first to say it, I was a big time doubter and he has out played my predictions for sure. I still don’t think his ceiling is much higher than what we see, he has proven me wrong in college (didn’t think he could take them as far as he did in the tournament) and now the NBA, and I’m sure he could do it again if I’m honest. Likable guy, I hope he does to be honest.
The jazz could have easily promised him the 28th pick and he woulve stayed in the draft. He went 1 pick before them this year and im pretty sure they had him at the top of their board. Ainge would light up anytime edey was brought up in the offseason
As a Spurs fan, I was worried when the Grizzlies picked up Edey. Sure, he may not have as many tools as Wemby, but I feel he'll give Wemby some headaches whenever the Spurs play the Grizzlies. Nice to see a low post big doing alright in the modern NBA regardless.
I love how all the people who condescendingly told us he wouldn’t make it are now condescendingly telling us what was always obvious and they dismissed, as if they’re a beacon of enlightenment.
I lose track of players when they get into the nba. Can’t stand to watch it. I will remember Zach taking his turn cutting down the nets. He promptly took his piece of net and gave it to Gene Keady. What a classy move
He's not quite that type of shot blocker yet. Clingan is a better shot blocker and was drafted before him. But we'll see if he can develop that side of his game to be an elite blocker. Something people aren't talking about is his shooting. In his 4 year college career he attempted two 3's, both in his final season. Now, in the NBA, he's already shot 10 of them and made.. SIX of them. He's shooting 60% from 3. His free throw percentage has also dramatically improved from his first stretch of games to his last. I guarantee you he will have a 3pt shot like brook lopez but likely better. This is the development you see with players who started playing basketball late and who have high athletic potential (dude was playing hockey and baseball at the same time and was nationally ranked in both).
@@homerthompson416 I think the trade was insurance for the future considering the Spurs will be facing awkward spikes in salaries once Sochan and Wemby's rookie contracts end. The math wont work for them sunce vassell and keldon are already signed to expensive long term contracts
@@niki8280 I think it was more a bet on the Timberwolves falling apart and eventually losing Ant based on the chaos with their ownership. Hell maybe even put the Spurs in a position to trade for him by giving Minnesota control of their drafts back so they can properly tank. Keldon's not gonna get another big money contract so he's no worry and Wemby won't be eligible for significant money until 27-28 at the earliest. No idea what kind of money Sochan will be able to pull in 26-27 when he's eligible for his first big extension.
One of the main reasons why people doubt Edey is because of the favoritism shown to him in terms of fouls. The Big 10 ref crew had no idea on how to ref games with Edey in them and it basically became the wild west and he was able to get away with a lot and also draw insane foul and free throw totals which allowed him to heavily inflate his stats. As soon as they played in the Tournament or out of conference games, his foul numbers skyrocketed and he wasn't drawing as many fouls for free throws
Naw. Right now with how the picks are looking Edey would be 7th if we kept the same player positions drafted and if not he'd crack T5. When you see the few guys ahead of him, its definitely a safe argument he jumps at least 2 spots
According to ChatGPT -- which confirmed my own beliefs 😀... What is the bias called when comparing an NBA player only to the past and ignoring his actual current and potential abilities? Answer: This bias is often referred to as anchoring bias or status quo bias. Anchoring Bias: This occurs when someone fixates on initial information (e.g., past performance) and fails to adjust their assessment adequately based on new or current information. In this case, the player’s past performance overly influences how they are judged, rather than considering their current abilities and potential growth. Status Quo Bias: This reflects a preference for the current or historical state of things, resisting change or reevaluation, which could result in ignoring the player's evolution or potential. Both biases could lead to undervaluing or overvaluing a player's true abilities.
He became super efficient in college... at his size... only thing that can stop him is an injury. Some so called expert talking heads need to be fired.
He's evolved nicely so far this year. I could see him becoming a poor man's jokic wth his foot work and finesse. He's a competent shooter, just needs to get better in the corners
Jokic? How would he be like Jokic who can shoot from anywhere and is a top 3 passer. Edey has more potential then most realize and i recognize that but your comments are out of line
Was that lady taken out of context? Who should they have taken? And with Clingan going 2 picks earlier? He’s a good fit there and I got one guy who I would have taken there instead (if you disregard fit). The take a teen who flashes potential for 4 years and then You have to give a max deal time is fading. A little polish goes a long way.
The number of fouls for a rookie is not a concern. He is learning the speed of the game and where he needs to be to make good defensive plays. Keep in mind that his teammate, Jaren Jackson Jr, also had a lot of fouls his rookie season, then won Defensive Player of the Year. If they work together on his defense, the Grizzlies starting Bigs would wreak havoc on anyone coming into the paint.
Multi sport players translate because it is about being competitive and a love to win, it's about the game, after "the bag" was introduced players stopped wanting to play for the game. They played for money and fame, no one really has heart anymore. Kobe was part of a dying breed of players who loved the game, this modern era has no heart and that's what it truly misses.
It always seemed crazy to Purdue fans. Edey came to Purdue with 2 years of basketball experience. 2 friggin years. Immediately you could see the difference from other centers, and Purdues had a bunch of good ones. His quickness was always noticeable but missed by the casual fan. His athleticism was always under the radar to the national media (but I guarantee you not to opposing coaches and players and the smart scouts like the ones at Memphis). He was so unexpectedly better than even Purdue thought that he kicked an All-American caliber center into a (very valuable) bench player. If you watch an old Purdue game with any favorable bias toward Edey, you'll be amazed at the double and triple teams with un-called fouls by the dozens in almost every game that he fought through, still scoring 30 regularly. In the referees defense, if they actually called all the fouls, every opposing team would have had no players left by halftime. Haters liked to claim Edey was actually the one committing the fouls, because he has elbows attached to his massive arms. But the NBA doesn't allow defense like that, so watch Edey get more and more comfortable on offense. It's GOOD that no one knew he could shoot the three, because Purdue didn't want him to. A selfish player might have shot them anyway, but Edey is TEAM FIRST and will do what is asked of him. Grizzlies didn't need him to be the focal point of the offense, but if they did, he could. As it is, Jenkins wants a frantic pace and has the studs to do it, so Edey "surprisingly", as a rookie, is, once again, learning and successfully adapting. So yeah, you better back up if you smack Ja or stupidly try to run down a Sequoia tree named Edey. Unlike most of you players that started in AAU when you were 6, Zach Edey was playing HOCKEY until 6 years ago. Thinking you might not really want to test his fighting skills, I'm betting he's a little more comfortable with it than you. And to you "draft doubters" you got a steal at #9. Hopefully you're starting to realize how incredibly well you drafted this year, at ALL picks.
I was a freshman at Purdue the same year as Edey he was honestly awful as a freshman. Came back his sophomore season and played a solid contributing role under all big 101 teamer Trevion Williams. His development from sophomore to junior year and then again the jump from junior to senior proved everything to me he has only been paying competitive basketball since his junior year of high school, and if he continues to develop, we will remember him as one of the best NBA centers of all time.
He’s already made more career 3-pointers than Ben Simmons 😂
Holy shit your right
Ben Simmons is a total disgrace to the game. I wish him nothing but the worst.
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I thought you were joking... you were not. 5 for 36 geez.
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7'4 hockey player wouldve been crazy
Towering over Chara lol
One fall on the ice and it’s wraps
It would be unfair if he were a goalie. He's big enough to block out the sun, let along a tiny hockey goal.
"Hit McDavid. I dare you."
Catching running lobs at 7’4” is crazy….
It never ceases to amaze me how badly the "experts" miss at times.
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It's because these people are no longer experts. They just spew whats being said on the internet because they know that negativity brings eyes
I thought he would be a very solid regular season player, and my opinion hasn’t changed.
Miss he averages barely 10 points a game. Lolololololololol
at times is such an understatement. if i made the same amount of mistakes at my job, id be long fired
Edey's college coach, Matt Painter, confidently said in an interview that Edey would have gotten a guaranteed contract if he stayed in the draft after his junior season, despite those "late 2nd round" draft projections. Painter is one of the most honest and straight shooting college coaches out there. He wouldn't have just said that if he didn't have a legitimate reason to believe it.
The same coach that knew for a fact that he got treated with toddler gloves by the refs on foul calls?
Purdue fan here... Zach is a nice young man, smart and a hard worker. He has improved every year while at Purdue and I wish him the very best in the NBA.
I doubted Edey at first but I'm a grizzlies fan and they drafted him so now I'm a huge Edey believer.
Bunch of flawed thought processing...but you got there eventually
Do think Edey should have played the Olympics ?
@@ryanmussell739definitely, Canada would have medalled if he had played.
Grizzlies are good at developing too so gotta give them credit
I’m a Grizzlies fan and I was pretty stoked when they drafted him. I felt we had a good team to develop him. I wish we still had Adams there to help mentor him but he’s doing well!
Just watch Boban running and then watch Zach running
Boban looks like he's being electrocuted. Zach is incredibly coordinated for being huge on top of being tall
4 weeks later, but you can thank his time in baseball and hockey for that. In baseball, you have to run the right way if you want to have a chance at even making it to first base, even at a high school level. Hockey's even better for running in that aspect; doing it wrong ends in you falling on your face. To even make it to that level, you have to be far more coordinated than the average person, and as long as you're active that coordination never leaves you.
The man also knows his role. And got drafted to a decent team. If he was a top 3 pick we might not be seeing the same player
NBA scouts were so used to 18/19 year old prodigies getting all the attention that they were still grading him like he was the player he was at 19
Wait a minute is this a new venture that involves Kenny and Clayton???? Literally my two favorite basketball creators. Hell yeah
yo I just discovered this too and I was like ain't no way
Edy is a victim of the NBA's over shift to the 3 offensively. that combined with scouts not giving him credit for being relatively new to basketball and thus having a higher ceiling than other Bigs that had been playing. Edy wasn't a one and done type because he didn't start playing until like his sophomore year of high school, so he had to develop more in college as a basketball player. Kind of like Tim Duncan switching from swimming to basketball as a teenager then doing 4 years of increasing his statistical output in college. and when you play 4 years of college ball you tend to fall out of the lottery, because teams feel like you're basically done developing...him and Knecht had a similar fall in the draft, and I thought both would be good because Knecht is new to his 6'5 size and Edy is new to basketball. If Knecht is a 6'5 freshman in college instead of 6'3, he's 1 and done. If Edy had played basketball his whole life coming into college, he would have been 1 and done too.
I guess I have always struggled with the concept of a 3 point shot. In my view, a field goal is a field goal. Every score should be worth 2 points
@chevy4x466 I think the giants that suck at every part of basketball that isn't just "be tall" would love that game... everybody else would think it's boring
I miss a lot of the big man play 20 years ago.
One of my favorite memories growing up was watching Tim Duncan and Ben Wallace go at it during the Pistons/Spurs Finals.
Ayeeeeee Clayton!!!!! I love how you build a narrative- and your voice is undeniable.
He's definitely a game changer. Not without his weaknesses but a true game changer.
Are we talking about the same guy????? Then
7ft guy whose putting up maybe 15-9 for a career high season in no way is game changer unless you mean it on the smallest scale with just the grizzlies which even then is a stretch,
Zach has already broke an NBA rookie record on 12/26/24 vs the Raptors! Check the stats then check yourself casual.
Rik Smits. The man started playing basketball as late as possible. He is now basically the best center in Indiana Pacers history. Why? Because you can teach a tall person how to play baskteball, and the less he knows, the more you can teach him. But you can't teach a short person to be tall.
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@@ImadogGarcia You mean Mel Daniels. JO played mostly 4.
@@ImadogGarciaJermaine O'Neal was 5-6 inches shorter than Edey and not as heavy.
Hes got great hands and very good footwork.
At his size, he can pull down a rebound every 3 to 4 minutes without trying.
He needs to learn how to defend NBA level talent night in and night out, but he's having some good nights out there, even if he is committing a lot of fouls.
Loved the video! I feel spoiled to get great content like this even from a small channel, keep it up!
Two things that always impressed me about Edey: his constant movement, setting picks and positioning himself in the lane, and his excellent free-throw stroke. Lots of seven-footers are terrible free-throw shooters, but not Zach. And he shot a LOT of free throws, often fouling out two or three players who tried to guard him!
A lot of fans and even coaches just forgot that basketball is simply about size. Guard heavy era of basketball warped the scouting reports heavily on Edey. As long as he can shoot up the court in 5 seconds he’s more than fit for the NBA.
fax I remember watching him before he was drafted and my impression of him was that he is much more mobile than he was being given credit for, so I knew straight away he was gonna be a problem
While true. What's more important than height is mobility especially in the NBA.
A big that can defend the rim very well but struggles to move laterally will get exploited.
What's the use of being a great shotblocker when you can't even stay in the paint. As teams will force you to move your feet and pull you out the paint.
Yup. Even the best guards now days are big
IMO The biggest assets Edey has , is that even though he is 7ft4 he is proportional , and his very coordinated and seems to understand that he can't get too heavy and has already done work on that , unlike Zion or Shaq lol .
With Wemby , my first opinion of him was he looked brittle , but in the year he has been in the league his has worked his arse off to increase his size and to take care of his flexibility.
I had the same opinion with Chet as i did with Wemby , unfortunately I don't think that Che is going to be able to change much with his body , and he is now out with a hip fracture because he has no meat to protect those bones when they hit that wood floor
I feel like I remember Edey seeming like he had the potential to be a player like this while he was in college but the system Purdue was running basically didn't need him to utilize more of his mobility. I feel like you could tell that Edey had more than just a big man post game but he was just rarely ever put in a situation to further develop or showcase that.
I’m sure that painter had something in place where Edie wouldn’t contest a lot of shots down low just so he didn’t pick up fouls because he was more needed on office which is why he’s picking up more fouls now in the NBA because he’s not as needed and they’ve released him as far as that goes
AYYYY CLAYTON GOOD TO SEE YA
i'm a spurs fan and watched the ncaa finals to have a look at stephon castle. while uconn won the game, it was quite showing that edey was the player doing the most in the game. basically carrying purdue the whole game until he couldn't anymore. meanwhile, castle didn't even break a sweat because uconn was much more evenly spread in terms of talent. after watching the game, i was quite sure that edey was correctly picked at the end of the lottery. i didn't know that media would say he's not even worth a second round pick. geez.
i honestly think that a lot of nba scouts aren't doing their jobs right. normally i don't say this because i've grown out of the 'arm chair coach' phase of watching sports long ago. but between brunson, edey and luka, i honestly feel that way. these guys has played for multiple years against high competition, producing multiple years of results as their teams' best player. what more do you want to see from a player? just because they don't have super high athletism, or are a couple years older that you won't be picking them? basketball is a skill sport. them coming into the league with high skill means that you are not wasting time to teach them about stuff. but nba scouts still routinely choose players who are a couple of years younger, thinking they can realize the players natural talents, while the teams fail to give the players the chance to learn and play simultaneously. isn't it basic logic that the dangerous gamble should be choosing a player who has not played many games, but has out of the world numbers?
talking about teams though, edey might not have gotten such praises if he was drafted by another team. grizzies are almost the perfect fit for edey. they have a hole on their roster that edey filled, but they don't need him to do much, while he can still produce enough for them to let him play. not a lot of teams with a hole in their roster can afford a rookie a chance to do so.
Well coached throughout college career .
I love this kids game, rooting for him I have always loved traditional centers and their game.
As an Indiana Hoosiers fan I never doubted Edey for a second
I'm just worried about the injuries. When healthy I think he's a 15 and 9 kind of guy could be a starter long term.
He's not though
Man he's just about at 15 and 9 with only averaging 22 minutes per game up to December. Memphis is LOADED with up and coming dudes and one of the most efficient offenses in the NBA. Zach already owns an NBA rookie record from his 12/26/24 stats vs the Raptors. Edey will be a complete Dawg very soon!
edey is pretty fast tho. he beat a bunch of guards at the combine in terms of how quick he was in his lane agility time. 1:35
7:19 oh i see you touched on this. haha 😂 my bad haha. great video
😂 Thank you!
That's probably why he is so good
The difference is in a game you don’t know where you are going beforehand and can’t practice it for weeks. You have to react.
The combine results can be what they are but in an actual game he doesn’t move like those numbers say.
He’s lumbering and slow with heavy feet. If he doesn’t nail his initial positioning he’s dead in the water.
I think that’s an error of his leg length he covers more ground by nature but he is still slow
He was the number one player who I thought was NBA ready, critics stink.
4 years of college make players NBA ready... always have. Why the decline of NBA... everything.
Averaging about 12 ppg on 61% shooting and 7 boards doesn't sound bad for a "miscalculation"
i never doubted him. he'll do just fine when he figures it all out. might take a season or two but, he'll be a great player if he can stay healthy.
When you see a college player improve each year in college, you know he is working his but off. No unnecessary comments on him should be made until after the 1st year. He continues to work hard he is going to make it in the NBA.
12:50 his foul numbers were lower in college because they told him to contest less shots to keep him out of foul trouble due to how important he was on offense
He fouled like hell and got away with it.
@@RustyShakleford01Yeah, and if someone so much as breathed on him, they were assessed 3 fouls. It was aggravating as hell. Yes, he's big, but over the backs just didn't exist where he was concerned.
I knew right away that Edey was going to be a lottery pick, and it's simply crazy that so many people thought otherwise
Oh I'm sure Atlanta must regret having taken Risacher over Edey by now...
@@A350Airways no not really. the Hawks front office is stupid for not trading Capela like 3 seasons ago, so they wouldn't have taken Edey no matter what. But over his last 7 games, Risachier is shooting 47% from the field and 39% from 3
Every Purdue fan knew Edey could shoot 3’s well, but he was just better in the post and Painter desires efficiency.
Then why in his whole college career did he only shoot 2? Makes no sense, he should've been allowed to develop more especially in all those college games that are ridiculous blowouts. Horrible coaching at purdue to make him an inferior product. If he had an established 3pt shot he would've been drafted top 5
@@roboticvenom1935 It's because of the offense they run, and calling the coaching 'horrible' is crazy considering what that man has managed to accomplish at Purdue.
@@ThaFlyDutchmanthey accomplished nothing
@@JSage13foolish statement. Making the final four and making the championship game are tremendous accomplishments.
You sound like someone that hasn’t accomplished anything.
@@AUA-camUser1yep, always those kinds of people that are quick to critique others' accomplishments when they have none themselves
His looks are deceiving. He doesn't really look athletic but he is actually pretty darn athletic for his size.
I remember looking at those mock drafts and thinking like why the hell Edey isn’t a top 5 pick… Sometimes we all just overthink shyt I guess..! But that was just stupid..!
Did this guy just call Robbie Hummel a traditional back to the basket big?!? Lmao, Hummel was not even a big.
You're right 🤦♂ that was a miscommunication
Man, seeing that name makes me sad.
@@thecheck-up shame on you, Rob is a saint!
Hummel scored 30 in the first half once at Purdue!
Dudes a baller. Great for the Memphis tbh
A 7'4 major league Pithcer would have been Wwwiled.
Great overview!
Great vid, very professional, no fat.
is this clayton crowley?
it has GOT TO be😭
OH MY GOD THERE'S HIS FACE
YOU CANT SAY IM NOT AN OG
It has to be Brodie!!
All of the people who doubt edey are going to be looking even worse in another season. He hasn't even been playing this sport for a decade yet...
All those busted big that werent ultra athletic or sharpshooters would still be in the nba if they were 7'4 lol. The reason they failed is because they werent long, tall, athletic and or strong enough to still get their shots off. Edey is all of those things other than maybe secondary lateral quickness and is more skilled than most of them were, stronger than most of them were and most importantly reads the floor and passes out of the post at a high level
I can admit when I’m wrong. I didn’t see this in him as a fit. I didn’t think he’d fit because I didn’t think he could play outside. I felt his foot speed would limit him guarding small centers but he’s shown he’s not as slow as I thought and he’s a better shooter. I didn’t see him play like this in college. Oh well I’ll own it. I got Ben Simmons, jahlil Okafor and Tyler Hansbrough (sp?) correct.
In the past few years it seems like if the grizzlies draft a player they will pan out well. The organization is so perfect for a small market
They was hating on Edey because he looks like Yao Ming
Why would that be a bad thing to look like a HOFer?
I just saw his Wikipedia page, didn't realize he is half Chinese.
He looks like it lfmaooo no way
Interesting, when so called experts dismissed Zach Edey, for whatever reasons, I saw during his college years the drive and improvements to succeed in the NBA. I don't know what his injury is but up till then he's shown great potential. Another fellow Canadian, Olivier Rioux, makes me wonder if someone so tall can play in the NBA.
Olivier Rioux sucks. He doesn't have the skills nor the speed and stamina to play in the NBA. He's too tall and unathletic. That's why olivier is ranked so low and isn't even that good on his team
He sprained his ankle, and you would expect the Grizzlies to be suuuuper careful when bringing him back, because they're probably not really thinking about the regular season, they're most likely focused on the postseason.
I gotta admit that I didn't therapist game would translate in the NBA but I'm glad I was wrong. I hope Zach sees continued success at the pro level.
His game will improve as he gains muscle mass. Imagine him at 320 lbs!
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how come there was no such speculation on Spurs' french giant last season? damn i forgot his name...
3.4 seconds isn't "MUCH MUCH FASTER" then 3.5 seconds, I'm just saying ✌️
I would be intetested to hear what you have to say about Marcus Smart getting traded to the Grizzlies last season
Edey won the Wooden Award.. National Award.. John Wooden graduated from Purdue 1932.. :) Go Boilers!
Eddy is Nice a double double machine Reminds me alot of a young pau minus the mid range gasol had hes more similar to marc gasol good footwork and hands 🏀 💯
My basketball UA-cam GOAT Clayton Crowley talking about my actual GOAT Zach Edey? This is a beautiful day
“Hmmm this gus sounds like Clayton Crowley”
Then tada it is indeed Clayton 😂😂😂😂
Nice piece, but the one thing I never hear about Edey… he’s super competitive! This kid has some sh&t in his game. Did no one see him go after Valancuinas?!
I think he will do just fine and he seems like a nice young man. Boy wouldn't it have been something if he stayed in hockey and been a winger over 7 foot tall?
I said before last year, 2023, Draft, that if Edey was in it, if I were the Mavs, I would take him in 1st round. They drafted Lively, bc they needed a center, but how much better would they have been last year with Edey underneath??
I liked the look of him coming into the draft. He seems like a good kid
Players like Edey will bring back post-ups
This man didn’t shoot threes in college and now he lets go without hesitation. I’m a big edey and grizzlies fan. The people who was doubting edey are looking ridiculous so far.
I always thought of Zach Edey as being at minimum a high end backup, possibly a 6th Man candidate every year but his ceiling as being the next Yao Ming. There’s just something about Edey that reminds me of him and the potential for that level of dominance.
Now if he stays even just a decent 3-point shooter, then he could be Yao Ming with a 3 point shot.
As a Lakers fan I was hoping for him to drop at 17
Rasheed Wallace said Edey should go #1 overall. Everyone argued with him.
I wanna see him against wemby same height but polar opposites
Might be a little early to make a call on this one. He's played 14 games so far.
He learned from a really good college coach. Painter is smart and a great teacher of the game.
"NBA draft "ANALYST" KRISTAN PEAK"
Maybe someone should tell her ZACK EDEY has WAY more business being an NBA prospect.....than SHE does being a NBA "DRAFT ANALYST"
His success is the definition of it matters who drafts you …any other team would have fumbled his career
You missed the part when he played on the bronze-medal winning Team Canada at the 2023 World Cup, and he only made every single shot he took in the tourney...The Raptors would have taken him if he fell out of the lottery...
I’ll be the first to say it, I was a big time doubter and he has out played my predictions for sure. I still don’t think his ceiling is much higher than what we see, he has proven me wrong in college (didn’t think he could take them as far as he did in the tournament) and now the NBA, and I’m sure he could do it again if I’m honest. Likable guy, I hope he does to be honest.
The jazz could have easily promised him the 28th pick and he woulve stayed in the draft. He went 1 pick before them this year and im pretty sure they had him at the top of their board. Ainge would light up anytime edey was brought up in the offseason
Big is a defensive position now. Gotta be able to run the 2-5 on offense whether you’re 6’8 or 7’8.
As a Spurs fan, I was worried when the Grizzlies picked up Edey. Sure, he may not have as many tools as Wemby, but I feel he'll give Wemby some headaches whenever the Spurs play the Grizzlies. Nice to see a low post big doing alright in the modern NBA regardless.
willing to admit I was wrong about Edey, I clowned memphis for taking him at 9 and now he looks like a steal
I love how all the people who condescendingly told us he wouldn’t make it are now condescendingly telling us what was always obvious and they dismissed, as if they’re a beacon of enlightenment.
Bro you look 14 with an uncle voice 😂😂 I fw the content though keep it up
I lose track of players when they get into the nba. Can’t stand to watch it. I will remember Zach taking his turn cutting down the nets. He promptly took his piece of net and gave it to Gene Keady. What a classy move
I wanted the Spurs to get Edey. A freaking no fly zone within the 3 point line lol
He's not quite that type of shot blocker yet. Clingan is a better shot blocker and was drafted before him. But we'll see if he can develop that side of his game to be an elite blocker.
Something people aren't talking about is his shooting. In his 4 year college career he attempted two 3's, both in his final season. Now, in the NBA, he's already shot 10 of them and made.. SIX of them. He's shooting 60% from 3. His free throw percentage has also dramatically improved from his first stretch of games to his last. I guarantee you he will have a 3pt shot like brook lopez but likely better. This is the development you see with players who started playing basketball late and who have high athletic potential (dude was playing hockey and baseball at the same time and was nationally ranked in both).
Stephon Castle is better. Spurs are right.
@@niki8280 Agreed, in a redraft I'd still take Steph at #4. Could have taken Edey #8 though.
@@homerthompson416 I think the trade was insurance for the future considering the Spurs will be facing awkward spikes in salaries once Sochan and Wemby's rookie contracts end. The math wont work for them sunce vassell and keldon are already signed to expensive long term contracts
@@niki8280 I think it was more a bet on the Timberwolves falling apart and eventually losing Ant based on the chaos with their ownership. Hell maybe even put the Spurs in a position to trade for him by giving Minnesota control of their drafts back so they can properly tank. Keldon's not gonna get another big money contract so he's no worry and Wemby won't be eligible for significant money until 27-28 at the earliest. No idea what kind of money Sochan will be able to pull in 26-27 when he's eligible for his first big extension.
One of the main reasons why people doubt Edey is because of the favoritism shown to him in terms of fouls. The Big 10 ref crew had no idea on how to ref games with Edey in them and it basically became the wild west and he was able to get away with a lot and also draw insane foul and free throw totals which allowed him to heavily inflate his stats. As soon as they played in the Tournament or out of conference games, his foul numbers skyrocketed and he wasn't drawing as many fouls for free throws
If we redrafted, he'd be picked at 9 again
Yup but for better reasons.
Naw. Right now with how the picks are looking Edey would be 7th if we kept the same player positions drafted and if not he'd crack T5.
When you see the few guys ahead of him, its definitely a safe argument he jumps at least 2 spots
Nah. Detroit would have drafted him at #5
@@hdhdhzh259 I'm not sure that 3 guys have been better. For fit and role, he's in the perfect market. We love us a monster in the paint in Memphis.
I wonder how would Edey stack up against Atlanta's bigs... would Atlanta have traded an existing big for some help on the wings?
because ncaa doesnt really prepare them for the nba
i wonder how johni broome is going to do in the draft
Brook Lopez’s successor if he gets better at 3s
According to ChatGPT -- which confirmed my own beliefs 😀...
What is the bias called when comparing an NBA player only to the past and ignoring his actual current and potential abilities?
Answer:
This bias is often referred to as anchoring bias or status quo bias.
Anchoring Bias: This occurs when someone fixates on initial information (e.g., past performance) and fails to adjust their assessment adequately based on new or current information. In this case, the player’s past performance overly influences how they are judged, rather than considering their current abilities and potential growth.
Status Quo Bias: This reflects a preference for the current or historical state of things, resisting change or reevaluation, which could result in ignoring the player's evolution or potential.
Both biases could lead to undervaluing or overvaluing a player's true abilities.
He became super efficient in college... at his size... only thing that can stop him is an injury. Some so called expert talking heads need to be fired.
Media and nba teams are too caught up with the curry warriors era .
A 7ft 4 baseball pitcher?
Now I’m curious who the tallest pitcher is
He's evolved nicely so far this year. I could see him becoming a poor man's jokic wth his foot work and finesse. He's a competent shooter, just needs to get better in the corners
Jokic? How would he be like Jokic who can shoot from anywhere and is a top 3 passer. Edey has more potential then most realize and i recognize that but your comments are out of line
Was that lady taken out of context? Who should they have taken? And with Clingan going 2 picks earlier? He’s a good fit there and I got one guy who I would have taken there instead (if you disregard fit). The take a teen who flashes potential for 4 years and then You have to give a max deal time is fading. A little polish goes a long way.
The number of fouls for a rookie is not a concern. He is learning the speed of the game and where he needs to be to make good defensive plays. Keep in mind that his teammate, Jaren Jackson Jr, also had a lot of fouls his rookie season, then won Defensive Player of the Year. If they work together on his defense, the Grizzlies starting Bigs would wreak havoc on anyone coming into the paint.
Yo when did Boban become 7’6 lmao
duncan robinson doing ur voiceovers? crazy
Multi sport players translate because it is about being competitive and a love to win, it's about the game, after "the bag" was introduced players stopped wanting to play for the game. They played for money and fame, no one really has heart anymore. Kobe was part of a dying breed of players who loved the game, this modern era has no heart and that's what it truly misses.
It always seemed crazy to Purdue fans. Edey came to Purdue with 2 years of basketball experience. 2 friggin years. Immediately you could see the difference from other centers, and Purdues had a bunch of good ones. His quickness was always noticeable but missed by the casual fan. His athleticism was always under the radar to the national media (but I guarantee you not to opposing coaches and players and the smart scouts like the ones at Memphis). He was so unexpectedly better than even Purdue thought that he kicked an All-American caliber center into a (very valuable) bench player. If you watch an old Purdue game with any favorable bias toward Edey, you'll be amazed at the double and triple teams with un-called fouls by the dozens in almost every game that he fought through, still scoring 30 regularly. In the referees defense, if they actually called all the fouls, every opposing team would have had no players left by halftime. Haters liked to claim Edey was actually the one committing the fouls, because he has elbows attached to his massive arms. But the NBA doesn't allow defense like that, so watch Edey get more and more comfortable on offense. It's GOOD that no one knew he could shoot the three, because Purdue didn't want him to. A selfish player might have shot them anyway, but Edey is TEAM FIRST and will do what is asked of him. Grizzlies didn't need him to be the focal point of the offense, but if they did, he could. As it is, Jenkins wants a frantic pace and has the studs to do it, so Edey "surprisingly", as a rookie, is, once again, learning and successfully adapting. So yeah, you better back up if you smack Ja or stupidly try to run down a Sequoia tree named Edey. Unlike most of you players that started in AAU when you were 6, Zach Edey was playing HOCKEY until 6 years ago. Thinking you might not really want to test his fighting skills, I'm betting he's a little more comfortable with it than you. And to you "draft doubters" you got a steal at #9. Hopefully you're starting to realize how incredibly well you drafted this year, at ALL picks.
I never really underestimated him. He dominated college for years like prime shaq would have
I was a freshman at Purdue the same year as Edey he was honestly awful as a freshman. Came back his sophomore season and played a solid contributing role under all big 101 teamer Trevion Williams. His development from sophomore to junior year and then again the jump from junior to senior proved everything to me he has only been paying competitive basketball since his junior year of high school, and if he continues to develop, we will remember him as one of the best NBA centers of all time.
One could say he’s making the case for Edey