As of 02 August 2022 Transportation Safety Board of Canada has not released a report. There is not scheduled release date for a report. This is curious as TSB’s website indicates a report of this nature is normally issued within 450 days of date of occurrence. We are more than 2 years from that date and as of the last update, OCT 2021 it was in the report phase. I have sent an email asking TSB to provide the public with an update as we are now 700+ days after occurrence.
I hadn't heard of this incident before now. One would think that this type of thing shouldn't happen, nowadas. Thre are all sorts of things designed to help prevent this. Thanks helping me learn something new today, Connor. Keep up the good work.
Nowadays there is more of a chance for collision because people depend and trust the technology to do the job of a human. Humans silence alarms and alerts all too often then forget to rearm or power up.
One would think! But, the Canadian "marine transportation safety board" has a library of reports on such incidents online, same for airplane and rail incidents, same for other countries.
With many years experience sailing on the Great Lakes my guess would be that the Florence Spirit had a black out and lost the ability to steer, I’ve been on freighters where this has happened multiple times on different ships but out in the middle of the lakes. Usually the engineers have multiple generators running when transiting the canal and the anchors out of the pockets ready to be deployed in case of this happening, you can see from the pictures that it doesn’t appear that the anchors were not out of the pockets and ready unless the stern anchors where ready
@@pumacat1637 why do you assume I wasnt on board? The official investigation and report hasn't been completed yet, but I am privy to information. Speed and bank suction were the cause. The engine did NOT experience power failure of any kind.
@@nicolemadden1457 because I know several sailors who were on board at the time and it was just a guess about the blackout however that still doesn’t explain why the anchors were not out of the pockets and ready to be deployed as that is highly recommended if not required while transiting the canal and I personally been on ships that had to deploy the anchors a couple of times due to a blackout and steering gear failure, and I have been a sailor for over 36yrs and been through the canal hundreds of times unbound and down bound I also have more sea time going astern then most people have going forward. Bank suction ? Hundreds of vessels transit the canal a season and have never heard of any ship have that problem. We slide the walls to get into each lock without ever having a suction problem lol but yes obviously speed was a contributing factor and they were well off the bank in fact both ships were in the centre of the canal from what I seen
I m a regular visitor at the welland canal and until today I still don't understand what happened there plus bolt ships had a welland canal pilot on board
Hey Connor ,I live 5 minutes from the welland canal walking , we still don't know what happened so don't let monster belly get you down. P.S. find the ship he is steering on and I'll give him the 1finger salute for u at lock 8 in Pt.Colbourne take care.
Connor the reason given by Transport Canada is that dynamic water forces caused the abrupt turn.p.s. check out the ship Steelton and and it's meeting with the PortRobinson Bridge on the Welland canal.
Yes! This is actually the "high speed" section of the canal, opened in 1973, where the speed limit is 8 knots. (The older, narrower sections have speed limit 6 knots).
Worthless Title: No answers. What sounds did the ships horn make before the collision? Was there pilots aboasrd? Will an Admiralty court convene? Which government has jurisdiction? Where the ships passing Port to Port sides?
His analysis is always on point. Considering you didn’t give any facts to support your comment it’s obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about….Zero
@@kendralogan8446 Ummmm, I steer that section of the canal a lot…. In ships that are bigger than the both of them. Plus one of my close friends is the captain of the Spirit 🖕🖕
I respect that sir. Please explain to a greater degree than being rude to a young person doing their best. I’d like to hear from your experience. Thank you for your reply btw…
If you are going to tell me that my analysis is not factual maybe try doing that in a nice way and telling me how I can better instead of criticizing my work.
As of 02 August 2022 Transportation Safety Board of Canada has not released a report. There is not scheduled release date for a report. This is curious as TSB’s website indicates a report of this nature is normally issued within 450 days of date of occurrence. We are more than 2 years from that date and as of the last update, OCT 2021 it was in the report phase. I have sent an email asking TSB to provide the public with an update as we are now 700+ days after occurrence.
Did they ever provide an update?
@@conormegaffin4934 MTSB report was released - www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/enquetes-investigations/marine/2020/m20c0188/m20c0188.html .
I hadn't heard of this incident before now. One would think that this type of thing shouldn't happen, nowadas. Thre are all sorts of things designed to help prevent this. Thanks helping me learn something new today, Connor. Keep up the good work.
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
Nowadays there is more of a chance for collision because people depend and trust the technology to do the job of a human. Humans silence alarms and alerts all too often then forget to rearm or power up.
One would think! But, the Canadian "marine transportation safety board" has a library of reports on such incidents online, same for airplane and rail incidents, same for other countries.
With many years experience sailing on the Great Lakes my guess would be that the Florence Spirit had a black out and lost the ability to steer, I’ve been on freighters where this has happened multiple times on different ships but out in the middle of the lakes. Usually the engineers have multiple generators running when transiting the canal and the anchors out of the pockets ready to be deployed in case of this happening, you can see from the pictures that it doesn’t appear that the anchors were not out of the pockets and ready unless the stern anchors where ready
True…
Wroooong. There was no black out in the engine room.
@@nicolemadden1457 how do you know for certain unless you were onboard ? And they wouldn’t admit to it anyway
@@pumacat1637 why do you assume I wasnt on board? The official investigation and report hasn't been completed yet, but I am privy to information. Speed and bank suction were the cause.
The engine did NOT experience power failure of any kind.
@@nicolemadden1457 because I know several sailors who were on board at the time and it was just a guess about the blackout however that still doesn’t explain why the anchors were not out of the pockets and ready to be deployed as that is highly recommended if not required while transiting the canal and I personally been on ships that had to deploy the anchors a couple of times due to a blackout and steering gear failure, and I have been a sailor for over 36yrs and been through the canal hundreds of times unbound and down bound I also have more sea time going astern then most people have going forward. Bank suction ? Hundreds of vessels transit the canal a season and have never heard of any ship have that problem. We slide the walls to get into each lock without ever having a suction problem lol but yes obviously speed was a contributing factor and they were well off the bank in fact both ships were in the centre of the canal from what I seen
wind turbines vs coal , how poetic 😃
I m a regular visitor at the welland canal and until today I still don't understand what happened there plus bolt ships had a welland canal pilot on board
how
Hey Connor ,I live 5 minutes from the welland canal walking , we still don't know what happened so don't let monster belly get you down.
P.S. find the ship he is steering on and I'll give him the 1finger salute for u at lock 8 in Pt.Colbourne take care.
Connor the reason given by Transport Canada is that dynamic water forces caused the abrupt turn.p.s. check out the ship Steelton and and it's meeting with the PortRobinson Bridge on the Welland canal.
Good to know.
Do you know what it cost to repair the ships?
I don’t think either of the shipping companies provided that information….
What actually happened????? No information has been released on what really happened, That was a waste of time
That's a canal?
Yes! This is actually the "high speed" section of the canal, opened in 1973, where the speed limit is 8 knots. (The older, narrower sections have speed limit 6 knots).
i feel bad for the crew
Worthless Title: No answers. What sounds did the ships horn make before the collision? Was there pilots aboasrd? Will an Admiralty court convene? Which government has jurisdiction? Where the ships passing Port to Port sides?
It happened in the Welland canal so Canada
Can I make a request?
Sure
Wharf 10 wharf 12... I thought the narrator said warp lol
She lost her steering
I had read somewhere that the Alanis lost its steering. FS was trying to get out of the way. Anyone else read that?
Alanisville
Bank section and speed
You have no idea what you are talking about…. Zero
His analysis is always on point.
Considering you didn’t give any facts to support your comment it’s obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about….Zero
@@kendralogan8446 Ummmm, I steer that section of the canal a lot…. In ships that are bigger than the both of them. Plus one of my close friends is the captain of the Spirit 🖕🖕
I respect that sir. Please explain to a greater degree than being rude to a young person doing their best. I’d like to hear from your experience. Thank you for your reply btw…
If you are going to tell me that my analysis is not factual maybe try doing that in a nice way and telling me how I can better instead of criticizing my work.
@@ConnorTenold amen and absolutely. Love your channel