Love my EQE SUV... But it(/EVs) really only makes sense if you have access to (at least L2) chargers, either at home or work. And if you have solar panels on your house (like we do), then it makes a little more sense. (Arguing for/against solar panels or for/against EVs is a whole other matter). MB will likely increase the range on these. But 250 miles is more than enough for a couple/few days of driving or getting us from San Diego to LA n back. MB did a great job w their EQE lineup.
I work for rental company and I hate driving a vehicle with a touch screen. The worst being a Chrysler, you have to touch them 2 or 3 times before it will do the next screen. To me, they are more distractive than a push button or knobs.
I have an EQE 350 4matic for a loaner while my GLS 580 is in for routine maintenance. It’s nice and fun to drive. The interior is especially nice. Hate the outside though.
Bought one a year ago. Worth half of its selling price now. Winter range in the midwest is very limited. We only use it for short trips. We like the design, but it just doesn't have the utility we hoped for road trips. We've lost a lot of money on this SUV should we decide to try to sell it. Fun factor: 5/10; Range: 5/10; Value for money 1/10.
$80,000 for a vehicle that is going to get bricked with an over the air software update in 100,000 miles or whenever Mercedes needs to sell more cars. Also what is the 350 supposed to mean in an electric car?
The numbers have slowly been becoming meaningless over the past few years. They've basically just been morphed into a trim level designation at this point and definitely even more so with EVs. It's no different from Porsche and their Turbo name. Most of the engines are turbocharged, so the term Turbo is given to the better one. That carried into the Taycans. There's obviously nothing turbocharged in an EV, but that name is now just a trim level moniker to denote the faster one.
I love my EQE 350, only complain is that Mercedes map is the most stupid map I have ever seen. Many intersections it acts weird like instead of going straight it asks to take right turn to next light and take a u turn and then take right.
Dealers are PISSED! The average time it takes to sell these Mercedes EQ cars are over 3 months, at which point the dealers are paying out of pocket. But Mercedes keeps sending these EQ’s to the dealers.
But.....you failed to explain the numbers. GLE is $15K USD less you day. Add in a home charger at $2K USD for the unit/install, that makes it $17K USD less than the EQE SUV. Ok, now doing an average of 13,500 miles per year (that is U.S. National Average, your mileage may vary). Cost to fill up 22.5 gallon tank in GLE s $83.25 (based on national fuel price average of today at $3.70 per gallon). ICEV has range of 450mi in city, therefore need 30 gas fill ups to do 13,500 miles, total yearly cost is approx $2,500 USD. EV range of the EQE SUV is EPA rated at 279 miles. In the city, it will get that in summer, 20% on average less in winter. So let's average it's range out at 240 miles. It would need 56 full charges to do 13,500 miles approximately. U.S. National average residental electricity costs is $0.23 cents per kWh. EQE SUV has a 90kWh pack, so a full charge in theory would cost $20.70 USD. Multiply this by 56 full charges to get a yearly home charging cost of $1,159 USD. Therefore, Yearly savings for BEV vs. ICEV on fuel alone is $1,341 USD. Plus lower maintenance, no oil changes, etc. per year. Oil changes are about $175 each, 2 per year, at a minimum for first 5 years of ownership, since new vehicle will be under warranty. BEV needs zero maintenance. Thus Yearly operating costs for ICEV are $350 plus fuel of $2,500 USD = $2,850 USD. Savings of BEV is now $1,691 per year. ROI for BEV being higher price versus ICEV is 7.9 years. This is based on the national average numbers I have used for fuel, residential electricity and oil change costs. Your actual costs could be higher, or lower. On average, I see a 3-5 year ROI on BEVs versus ICEVs. This means it takes this long to recoup the additional savings you get with a BEV, from the higher cost you pay for it upfront. Versus an ICEV of comparison. Oh and I did not even mention other BEV benefits, such as instant torque/performance, better handling with battery pack weight/lower centre of gravity, quiet, will start in -50F weather every time, heats up faster, ZERO EMISSIONS, increased safety (stronger structural integrity, low roll-over risk, larger front/rear crumple zones, increased protection from side-impacts, etc. These safety benefits are inherent with all-electrics. So, your blanket statement and negativity is not warranted and you should always back up comments with facts. Hopefully these facts get people to think that this (or any other BEV) could work for them. I understand and agree that a BEV does not work for all for many reasons. However, at least know the facts before passing judgements.
@@EVRevolutionI'm guessing EVs are mostly insulated from the oil cartels and war's sway on oil prices too. Instead relying on electricity prices which have been higher recently when they used to be
Dealers can't give these overpriced pieces of junk away, especially since even-lower-quality Tesla is slashing prices-the EV market is reaching saturation, and is basically dead when it comes to pickups. EVs as they currently stand are still a rich person's plaything.
I see point. Honestly, the market is overly saturated, and prices dropping are well, so why not wait to see how low they will go. Otherwise, the lots are filling up.
@@LearnAboutFlow I don't know, I see plenty of people who are happy with their evs, at the least the dealerships are selling. I see tons of Teslas nowadays and I'm halfway across the country from where they're made in a rural/more conservative area. I don't see how there's many drawbacks of EVs for somebody who drives around town a lot, what would be a drawback for example? I can't really think of one, maybe it gets really cold where they live and the battery drains in the cold. But if somebody commutted a ton of miles I can see where EVs are at a significant disadvantage to ICE vehicles (or more often hybrids nowadays, it seems). But for many people I feel like an EV 90% of the time suits their needs. It also doesn't mean that ICE cars aren't the vast majority of cars sold today, but if we look the Tesla forums, Polestar, etc. there's plenty of people who drive them and like them.
@@zzoinks Well, your personal anecdotes have zero to do with the reality of the EV market. And you can't think of a drawback for an apartment dweller on the 14th floor with no charger in the building's garage? Too funny. The technology has to radically change to make these things a true reality for the mass market, especially when it comes to pickups (yet another EV failure).
My neighborhood in Calabasas, California has two EQS, one EQE, several BMW iXs, a Cadillac Lyriq, a Hummer EV, Ford Lightnings, and COUNTLESS Teslas. It’s interesting to travel outside California where Flyover State people (ignorant, afraid people, basically) complain about this exciting EV wave. I just laugh, get back in my Genesis GV60 electric, and move on.
Love my EQE SUV... But it(/EVs) really only makes sense if you have access to (at least L2) chargers, either at home or work. And if you have solar panels on your house (like we do), then it makes a little more sense. (Arguing for/against solar panels or for/against EVs is a whole other matter). MB will likely increase the range on these. But 250 miles is more than enough for a couple/few days of driving or getting us from San Diego to LA n back. MB did a great job w their EQE lineup.
Why does every car need a touch screen? Maybe I have too much screen time as it is and want a little break while I'm in the car.
its what the majority of people want
I work for rental company and I hate driving a vehicle with a touch screen. The worst being a Chrysler, you have to touch them 2 or 3 times before it will do the next screen. To me, they are more distractive than a push button or knobs.
"Simulated engine growl"
What tire size on this tester?
The ENTIRE lineup is. YAWNFEST!
I have an EQE 350 4matic for a loaner while my GLS 580 is in for routine maintenance. It’s nice and fun to drive. The interior is especially nice. Hate the outside though.
Hi, thanks for sharing question for you. What type of maintenance do they need? And also is it included and if not how much thanks.
im just gonna fast forward to the price 😂😂
Bought one a year ago. Worth half of its selling price now. Winter range in the midwest is very limited. We only use it for short trips. We like the design, but it just doesn't have the utility we hoped for road trips. We've lost a lot of money on this SUV should we decide to try to sell it. Fun factor: 5/10; Range: 5/10; Value for money 1/10.
Styling looks like a small minivan. If this is the future, they can keep it! The long braking distance is not helping either.
$80,000 for a vehicle that is going to get bricked with an over the air software update in 100,000 miles or whenever Mercedes needs to sell more cars. Also what is the 350 supposed to mean in an electric car?
The numbers have slowly been becoming meaningless over the past few years. They've basically just been morphed into a trim level designation at this point and definitely even more so with EVs. It's no different from Porsche and their Turbo name. Most of the engines are turbocharged, so the term Turbo is given to the better one. That carried into the Taycans. There's obviously nothing turbocharged in an EV, but that name is now just a trim level moniker to denote the faster one.
If you're worried about brick cars unfortunately you shouldn't buy any new car. They're all very computerized
Laughed out loud at the price. Mercedes has truly lost the plot.
“seats are more firm than plush but have plenty of longdistance comfort” 260 mi range? Lol ok!? Pregnant Jellybean! Pass! 😂😂😂
I guess the jelly beans of the 90s decade are coming back! The future of cars is looking E-ek!😂god i love my gas guzzler!
I want to kno, who thought these wheels were a good idea, regardless of drag. They are HIDEOUS!
Wait it has rear wheel steering??
Yes, it is optional and our tester had it.
Why keep using numbers in trim levels if it no longer signifies the engine size?
I love my EQE 350, only complain is that Mercedes map is the most stupid map I have ever seen. Many intersections it acts weird like instead of going straight it asks to take right turn to next light and take a u turn and then take right.
Dealers are PISSED! The average time it takes to sell these Mercedes EQ cars are over 3 months, at which point the dealers are paying out of pocket. But Mercedes keeps sending these EQ’s to the dealers.
Awesome vehicle)
With Tesla charging now it’s very practical
Range is too low.
Difficult sell without subsidies. In the USA the GLE starts at 15,000 usd less, and you don't have to buy a charging station at your house.
But.....you failed to explain the numbers. GLE is $15K USD less you day. Add in a home charger at $2K USD for the unit/install, that makes it $17K USD less than the EQE SUV.
Ok, now doing an average of 13,500 miles per year (that is U.S. National Average, your mileage may vary).
Cost to fill up 22.5 gallon tank in GLE s $83.25 (based on national fuel price average of today at $3.70 per gallon). ICEV has range of 450mi in city, therefore need 30 gas fill ups to do 13,500 miles, total yearly cost is approx $2,500 USD.
EV range of the EQE SUV is EPA rated at 279 miles. In the city, it will get that in summer, 20% on average less in winter. So let's average it's range out at 240 miles. It would need 56 full charges to do 13,500 miles approximately. U.S. National average residental electricity costs is $0.23 cents per kWh. EQE SUV has a 90kWh pack, so a full charge in theory would cost $20.70 USD. Multiply this by 56 full charges to get a yearly home charging cost of $1,159 USD.
Therefore, Yearly savings for BEV vs. ICEV on fuel alone is $1,341 USD. Plus lower maintenance, no oil changes, etc. per year. Oil changes are about $175 each, 2 per year, at a minimum for first 5 years of ownership, since new vehicle will be under warranty. BEV needs zero maintenance. Thus Yearly operating costs for ICEV are $350 plus fuel of $2,500 USD = $2,850 USD.
Savings of BEV is now $1,691 per year. ROI for BEV being higher price versus ICEV is 7.9 years. This is based on the national average numbers I have used for fuel, residential electricity and oil change costs. Your actual costs could be higher, or lower.
On average, I see a 3-5 year ROI on BEVs versus ICEVs. This means it takes this long to recoup the additional savings you get with a BEV, from the higher cost you pay for it upfront. Versus an ICEV of comparison.
Oh and I did not even mention other BEV benefits, such as instant torque/performance, better handling with battery pack weight/lower centre of gravity, quiet, will start in -50F weather every time, heats up faster, ZERO EMISSIONS, increased safety (stronger structural integrity, low roll-over risk, larger front/rear crumple zones, increased protection from side-impacts, etc. These safety benefits are inherent with all-electrics.
So, your blanket statement and negativity is not warranted and you should always back up comments with facts. Hopefully these facts get people to think that this (or any other BEV) could work for them. I understand and agree that a BEV does not work for all for many reasons. However, at least know the facts before passing judgements.
@@EVRevolutionI'm guessing EVs are mostly insulated from the oil cartels and war's sway on oil prices too. Instead relying on electricity prices which have been higher recently when they used to be
Dealers can't give these overpriced pieces of junk away, especially since even-lower-quality Tesla is slashing prices-the EV market is reaching saturation, and is basically dead when it comes to pickups. EVs as they currently stand are still a rich person's plaything.
You mean rich people wouldn't want to buy it even if they had the money? Or just that nobody can afford them
I see point. Honestly, the market is overly saturated, and prices dropping are well, so why not wait to see how low they will go. Otherwise, the lots are filling up.
@@zzoinks Rich aren't buying luxury EVs, including Teslas. Many are returning to ICE vehicles since they can't stand all the drawbacks.
@@LearnAboutFlow I don't know, I see plenty of people who are happy with their evs, at the least the dealerships are selling. I see tons of Teslas nowadays and I'm halfway across the country from where they're made in a rural/more conservative area.
I don't see how there's many drawbacks of EVs for somebody who drives around town a lot, what would be a drawback for example? I can't really think of one, maybe it gets really cold where they live and the battery drains in the cold. But if somebody commutted a ton of miles I can see where EVs are at a significant disadvantage to ICE vehicles (or more often hybrids nowadays, it seems).
But for many people I feel like an EV 90% of the time suits their needs. It also doesn't mean that ICE cars aren't the vast majority of cars sold today, but if we look the Tesla forums, Polestar, etc. there's plenty of people who drive them and like them.
@@zzoinks Well, your personal anecdotes have zero to do with the reality of the EV market. And you can't think of a drawback for an apartment dweller on the 14th floor with no charger in the building's garage? Too funny. The technology has to radically change to make these things a true reality for the mass market, especially when it comes to pickups (yet another EV failure).
50% depreciation in 30 months
My neighborhood in Calabasas, California has two EQS, one EQE, several BMW iXs, a Cadillac Lyriq, a Hummer EV, Ford Lightnings, and COUNTLESS Teslas. It’s interesting to travel outside California where Flyover State people (ignorant, afraid people, basically) complain about this exciting EV wave. I just laugh, get back in my Genesis GV60 electric, and move on.
It’s a car. Breathe.
I really hate the look of that interior.
Another EV no one is buying.
What a hideous looking car.....what a shame of what these EV designs have become! 🤔🤨😒
I find it better looking than a Tesla Model X
90 grand to sit around waiting 32 minutes to drive another 180 miles😂😂😂😂
280 miles
Awesome vehicle...wish they offered hydrogen powered technologies version
The volume of hydrogen needed to get acceptable range is HUGE, and quite dangerous.