How to Install a Basement Bathroom | Ask This Old House
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Richard Trethewey shows how to rough-in the drainpipes for a basement bathroom. (See below for steps.)
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Richard used standard schedule 40 PVC pipe for the new drain lines. All of the supplies for this project, including PVC, glue and cleaner, and flexible couplings, are available at home centers and plumbing supply companies.
Contractor Jeremiah Kelley used a styrofoam cap to protect the toilet drain from concrete. It is manufactured by Richard Specialty [www.richardspec...] and available for purchase through Ferguson [www.ferguson.com/] (model no. JS13140).
Expert assistance with this project was provided by Service Plus of Indianapolis [serviceplusnow...].
Steps for How to Install a Basement Bathroom:
1. Lay out the 2x4 bottom wall plates to establish the perimeter of the bathroom walls.
2. Measure off the wall plates to locate the center of the shower drain and toilet flange.
3. Dig a trench extending from the existing drainpipe over to the new locations of the shower drain and toilet flange.
4. Use a right-angle grinder fitted with a diamond-impregnated cutting wheel to cut through the old cast-iron drainpipe.
5. Attach a flexible no-hub mechanical coupling onto the end of the just-cut drainpipe. Tighten hose clamp onto the cast-iron pipe with a torque wrench.
6. Cut and glue together 3-inch-diameter PVC pipes and fittings to form the drainpipe assembly that connects the old cast-iron pipe to the new shower and toilet drain.
7. Slip the end of the PVC drainpipe assembly into the mechanical coupling attached to the old cast-iron pipe. Tighten the hose clamp to secure the PVC pipe.
8. Next, run 2-inch-diameter PVC pipe from the drainpipe assembly over to the shower and vanity sink.
9. Install traps for each fixture, and be sure the pipes slope 1/8 inch per foot to drain properly.
10. Drive a 1/2-inch-diameter steel-reinforcing bar down into the soil beside each trap. Then, use duct tape to secure the bars to the traps.
11. Have the rough piping inspected before pouring the concrete floor.
12. Cover the open end of the toilet pipe with a foam cap. Wrap plastic around the shower-drain pipe.
13. Have the concrete contractor pour a new floor around the piping.
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im a plumber myself and ive done underground rough ins, I have to say that this video is very explainable for anyone who is not a plumber and wanted to do their own plumbing. good enough video
Question - how does the drain for the lavatory act as the vent (wet vent for all other fixtures)? Around 6:40 he says it. So there's not actual vent that goes to the outside?
@@nofurtherwest3474 I wonder can an air admittance valve be used for everything instead of routing to the roof?
@@nofurtherwest3474 oversized drain line. The air is able to get between the water and the top side of the pipe. If it were a smaller pipe there would be no room for the air and water.
@@corysturgis6660 yes.. I am a plumber.. It is possible
@@lep8622 yes. I AM A PLUMBER AND IT IS POSSIBLE TO REPLACE A NATURAL VENT WITH A MECHANICAL ONE
Richard is so humble. My favorite member of this old house.
Growing up and even now still this show is just dope
Ikr, same here
smoke it, dope head !
Great! I’ll start excavating my basement to look for any vintage drain pipes. Hope I find one!
hehe lil funny
🤣🤣🤣
I'm doing the same, didn't find anything but the cost to put down new concrete is over 10,000...Whoops...should've just sh-t outside in the grass
@@johnames6430 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@johnames6430hahhhhaa nice! , good laugh
The old cast pipe moved as they tightened it! Among plenty of other issues!
yup saw that too. ua-cam.com/video/gqwAETNyTnE/v-deo.html that joint is toast.
4:15 loved how he gently put his hands on the pvc cause he knew his buddy was dealing with a saw
i noticed that as well
I was frying my head trying to understand what the heck was that pipe going absolutely nowhere in my basement. Thanks to you guys, now I fully understand the reason. You guys are awesome!
you never want to use flexible couplings under the concrete but rather a solid metal banded coupling with a rubber behind it, its called a mission band, over time flexible rubber couplings can flex to much, if shifting occurs in the ground that could potentially obstruct the flexible coupling they used in this video, what they used is a fernco, I suggest a mission band.
I agree buried under concrete is not the place for a fernco. Hopefully by the time it's a problem this couple's transgender kids will have to deal with it .
@@wesfrazier5739 LOL!
Why would there be shifting?
I like how the cast iron pipe was moving as they were tightening up the clamp.
I thought i saw it move i was confused for a sec.... 😅
This is the second one for the basement bat. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOuLt8IL_GxhhaK8DBuKEL-zV0UJVpWZn , works great
Love the comments from all the UA-cam licensed plumbers.
Yup
they are 1st year apprentices who think they know everytthing
Même un plombier du dimanche avec deux mains gauches ne mettrait pas un raccord en caoutchouc dans le sol
I don’t really care about this video much but I just love reading comments. Such a fun time. God bless UA-cam, God bless American inventors.
As a aspiring plumber this channel is extremely fun to watch and also motivating. Thanks. :-)
Polymoon you will be great
I need a good plumber.
It's a great way to find out how NOT to do things
If you're learning to plumb. Stop watching u-tube. I can lay out 5 things wrong with this plumbing system.
No vent for the shitter lmao, that why cuts off any sort of wet vent lmao
I was after the info at the very end, as I'm ready for concrete, but was concerned about the pipes getting bound. Good tips.
Boy if Osha saw you cutting out that closet bend with that grinder safety cover off!!! 😂
Greetings from Miami, Florida.
I'm also a licensed Plumber, the things we have to do to get the job done! 🙃👍
This guy is a professional plumber, and you have Richard talking to him like he doesn't know what he's doing.
No. That was a garbage job. I've been in the plumbing business before you were dropping deuces in diapers and I tell you that was a garbage plumbing job.
@@tdurden9532 please explain?
@@johnsmith-wc8gs I kind of have to agree with T Durden. I'm a Licensed Master Plumber in Michigan.
In no particular order...there are a few things that I would not let fly if it were my job. Not necessarily code violations but just a few sloppy things.
First, this is an underground. Not a "Rough".
They should of built boxes to go around the trap for the shower, to help protect when concrete is poured.
Risers should of been used and came high enough to cap. Not use plastic or cellophane.
I would of used a sawzall with a diamond blade, instead of the grinder. Also would of been bedding the pipe with fresh fill as we went, which brings me to the next thing---If you are good at running DWV you should not have to "dry fit".
You should measure, cut, prime and glue. Done! I also did not see an air test.
Either way, neither of these two would ever cut it working for me.
@@gunsnstuff4040 See this man knows his craft. If your not a licensed plumber or been in business for over 20 years please shut up.
That and the dummy tape he's using 🤣🤦🏾♂️
1#...Use a soil pipe cutter.
2#...use some kind of 1/2" minus or screenings to support piping from underneath, before concrete comes.
3#... Box off shower for drain install..not wadded up plastic.
I am so glad they did not installed water supplies in the concrete floor. It would have been easier this way, but running water supply trough Sheetrock wall cavity is the best way to do it. Props to Rich!
I like how his glue and primer bottles are banded together. Great idea.
I noticed that also. I was wondering if it would help prevent me spilling the glue or make it where I spill both, instead of one.
Back in the day guys used to mix 3/4 glue and 1/4 primer and you still got that purple color around each joint!!! It would water down your glue a bit but would actually go on better it's frowned upon these days though!!!
This is the easiest install of all time being that there was already a bathroom there. Where I live, no one cares if you move your toilet from one side to another, but in states like NJ and NY it's endless bureaucratic red tape and paying for inspections.
I was hoping to see how they were going to solution that problem... Thinking they were starting from scratch.
AxZxTxExCxA same
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AxZxTxExCxA probably would have used a macerating unit.
They could have done this without a permit. No one would have been The wiser
TIP : When doing a lot of PVC cutting , a miter saw will make perfect cuts every time very quickly, and no burring , you can cut up to a 4 inch pipe with a standard saw .
Great video and thanks for explaining the wet venting and local codes. I've had a basement rough in video on my channel for a while now and people are always questioning the venting and what is right and wrong. Different codes depending on where you are.
Richard is one of a kind. Great teacher, he is truly passionate about plumbing/HVAC
Jesus, this man is an animal. Diamond blade grinder on cast iron with no ear plugs lol
exactly my thoughts
@@slandingham What?
Sweet mother of god do you know how loud that would have been? Dude must have insane tinnitus if he’s gone through his career like that.
There goes the 3 ft clearance for the breaker panel. Nice job guys...
3:43 the clamp has slipped out of the groove on the bottom as he torques it down.
Its not a huge deal.. the compression will hold it in place
lol I am glad im not the only one that noticed that. Totally inappropriate way to install that clamp. With the uneven clamping pressure on that coupler that's bound to leak down the road now.
I see alot of comments about the wet vent smelling bad, it's not to open air. It either ties into the buildings existing vent or if code permits you can get a $20 one way vent that only allows air in. Wet vents work well. I may have added an additional vent for the shower at least but just my opinion .
I love everything about this channel, I gel the most useful tips and advice, and I get to see them actually do it.
Been in the trades 16 years. Have had a master plumber, master electrical, and master hvac license for 11 of those years. I am now a building inspector.
First thing I see is working clearances to the breaker box when walls are built, you are not going to have three foot in front of it. Looks like about 32 inches if you go by seems in the blocks, and that's not counting that the front of the breaker box is four inches from the wall surface to start with.
Second thing, depending on code they are on, they may or may not have done the venting correctly. As a plumber I would have vented the toilet separately, however depending on the code for that jurisdiction they may be within code, however codes are minimum standards, nothing saying you can't do more, and all we are really talking about is a few more dollars in fittings, not much in the overall cost of adding a bathroom.
Third that is going to be a finished area, I would have depending on circumstances outside, dug down outside and made it to where I had PVC to outside of the home, as well as installed cleanouts on the outside of the home, again not required to do that per code, however why mess up a perfect finished area when cast iron fails, and it will fail. I might also would consider a check valve in the event of a sewer backup you don't flood the area, however check valves do fail, and that can be a problem too.
12.5" is all you need.... Thanks for deciding the wall covering for me by refusing to add enough room to possibly tile my walls... Did a bathroom reno and thankfully had the forethought to measure the closet flange placement, 12.5 wouldn't even fit cheap white builders tiles with adhesive let alone the 5/8" honed 18" square travertine I used. I moved mine to 13.25 and after the substrate, large format grout and tile there was less than 1/8" to spare after the 12" offset toilet was installed.
Especially in the case of a basement install under concrete, give yourself an extra .25 to .5" clearance, you can tile in the future if desired and if your toilet tank needs to rest on the wall a small shim or spacer will never be noticed if installed properly.
I’ve never used a diamond blade for metal only ever used them on block or concrete. Grinder zip cut discs are what I’ve used to cut cast.
Diamond seawall blade?
Diamond blade last much much longer, cuts cleaner and safer
you need to account for 1/2” drywall, mud 1/8” and tile usually 1/4” so your toilet should have been 12 7/8” or 13”
consumer tip, if it's only a few more feet to get outside of the house, then have your plumber go ahead and replace it. If that "80 yr old cast" fails 6 months later, then your tearing out brand new floor, tile.
Scott O'Brien" so true! that's what i said more money spent if it start coming apart.
It may be 80 years old but it will last another 900 years. Stupid advice to spend more money digging
They are also installing a toilet so they will come at a point it all gets to rusty and toilet paper gets stuck there. You don't want to save on something like this when you can easily go outside you will regret it if you don't. When you spend so much money on renovation do it good or buy a new house.
When he cut the line you could see how much material was still there. If pipe is in good shape why replace?
@@davem3789 Because, metal pipes only have a 30-50 year life expectancy when in use for water.
You should have installed a backwater valve to protect the bathroom since this is the basement . Also our plumbing code mentions that you need 1/4 per feet pitch for a pipe that is 3"or less. 1/8 per feet is for pipes 4" to 6".
Backwater valve is required where I live, and horizontal dry vents are not allowed
@@HaakonAnderson horizontal dry venting not allowed because they can plug up with dirt and sediment?
Just curious..
@@REWYRED they will most likely function fine, inspectors don't wanna see it so we don't do it
It's just honestly not professional, water and waste could enter it, get paid to be professional and
Who all remembers watching This Old House back in the 1970s and 80s when they offered absolutely no information of any value? Thank gawd for the new This Old House. Reputation REDEEMED!
5:03 you can see the old cast iron pipe has broken free under the foundation. Leak.
this is how dumb you are...its under the foundation, in dirt
@@bilbobaggins5962 Yes dirt. So a constant smell that cant be found. And the tree roots will 100% find it in the “dirt”, so guaranteed leak. Idiot.
Just for clarification no obstructions 15" either side of toilet measured from centre of drain.
Also the lav can serve as the vent for both toilet and shower so long as it's within 6' of each fixture being served. When thats not obtainable you must increase pipe size by one size
Watch @ 05:01 when he's tightening the clamp, the cast iron pipe swivels. That means the lead seal is bad. It's going to leak.
Amazing eye, wonder if they will notice it or it will just seep into the ground without notice
@@LumenChaser
Short answer
They may have noticed the seal was broken and just didn't include any info on it in the video to keep the complexity down.
Long answer
If they didn't notice it, that will definitely leak. It's not a pressurized line so it'll be a slow leak. What happens will depend on the ground. If it's dry ground it may leach away for many years or maybe it'll never be an issue, but that's a slim chance at best.
If the ground is saturated with moisture any sewerage will seep under the slab and accumulate, anaerobic bacteria will build up and create a biomat, which will further trap moisture. That slab floor will always seem damp, but more importantly it will always smell dank because of the trace amounts of gas seeping through the slab. The trace gas probably won't be enough to hurt anyone but the smell will be noticeable.
The first thing the homeowner will do is use sprays to kill the smells, then use cleaner/bleach on the floors, but the smell will persist. A moderately skilled plumber will most likely recognize the smell and be able to diagnose the issue. But if the homeowner brings in a general repair the first thing they'll likely suggest is to seal the slab, which won't work. A waste of money. If they get very unlucky a foundation repair will suggest a new foundation drainage system. Which is expensive and has a possibility of working because that will take away a lot of the moisture. Anaerobic bacteria flourish in wet conditions, less moisture the less bacteria. But the smell will likely persist.
If they didn't fix that seal before they finished the remodel, they'll have to remove all the fixtures, take up the flooring, dig up the slab in that area, fix the seal and then put it all back.
If they did replace the seal at that stage in the video, since the slab is already gone, a plumber would chisel carefully around the pipe for an hour or so to reveal it. Put on a new coupler and seal. Maybe $70-100 extra cost on the remodel price. Which is worth it. They never should have shown people that you can guess whether the seal is intact or not. Just replace it, the added cost is insignificant compared to the total cost of the remodel and a new seal will last for decades.
Mrdead Inmypocket thanks for the detailed response
Mrdead Inmypocket you are so smart man
When I was a plumber in Mass a Fernco was not code. 4 band mission clamp underground only.
In New Orleans you can't use any metal fittings underground because of the soggy soil. So it's fernco or mission fittings with the bands removed, then cast in concrete, or donuts into a hub.
I've cut cast iron pipe using a fiberglass blade. Like butter.
Im addicted to this channel and this guy
4:12 😳😳😳 my thumb is never anywhere close to my sawzall blade. Maybe this one has a shorter safer throw? Still I'm not that brave
“Master” in the basement
when using the fernco coupling you should use a 4" fernco coupling with a metal brace and then reduced to 3" using a 4x3 pvc reducer, you cannot use a fernco with out a big metal brace
huh?
2:50 Grinding cast iron without hearing protection equals bad idea.
silverwoodchuck47 and no blade guard
LOL yeah right. That's not all that loud.
Great vudeo im gonna install my bathroom basement in 10 years from now
You're the pro & I really don't know as I am just a handyman' But having done some jobs plumbing the inspectors alway's told me that any buried pipe connections such as your showing could not be hooked up w/a regular rubber boot as it had to be an emissions coupling. The truth be known, inspectors lie when they inspect a handyman's work & they resent a man making an honest living giving the home owners a fair price w/out taking him to the cleaners. It cut's in on the licensed plumbers license to steal. I know from experience plumbing is a dirty job, But I do believe it's just as dirty to rip people off!. I was installing schedule 40 in a basement that had 3" stacks to it & I installed 3" schedule 40. The inspector told me it had to be 4" pipe & I had to tear it out & waste it as it been already glued. I complied W/ 4" pipe when he came back & then said it had to be 3". I argued & told him he's already cost me hundreds of dollars of work & material when I had it already correct the first time. He just said well today it's back to 3" He did not like it that I was non-union & that I was a good man to have on hand, Dave the handyman. I don't rip people off & I believe what goes around comes around. His stupidity is in judgment day coming! May God bless his people.
First off, Plumbers are a licensed trade - not handymen. In Mass it takes 5 years of school before you can even sit for the Journeyman's test. You could not pull a plumbing permit in my state let alone perform work and stand for an inspection without being a licensed plumber. Plumbing work should always be left to the professionals since they are responsible for protecting the water supply in homes/neighborhoods/communities as well as Waste and Gas (propane and NG). We have codes that we must follow, we have continuing education (6 hours a year) to stay current with our craft. What does a handyman have to do, read another Plumbing for Idiots Book? Union or non Union does not matter, being a licensed tradesman is what really matters in the end. So stick with squeaky doors and stuck window panes. Leave the skilled trade work to the licensed guy. If you like Plumbing so much - go be an apprentice and work your way up like everyone else has in the trade! -GtheP.
Actually Dave, you are ripping your customers off by not being a licensed plumber and doing plumbing work.
There is a reason handyman shouldn't do plumbing for the public. If you mess up you might not only hurt your customer but the public as well. There's a reason that a plumber needs a license....they have to know what they are doing.
I'm a jack of trades myself but there's 2 things I tell customers I will not touch. Plumbing and electrical. You fuck those up you're out of business.
You need to use a stainless steel banded mission coupling for any connection between two different materials. Above or below ground anything else will shear or degrade over time and cause problems
A proper ci/pvc transition would be to maintain 4" to the new closet bend, thereby creating a full sized cleanout through the foundation.
So im doing my basement bathroom over. Its currently ABOVE concrete plumbing. Its almost 18in off the floor. Smh. So im trying to rough in plumbing. So I bought a 4in pvc to come from the upstairs toilet(i have a toilet stack down here) going vertically to a sanitary tee. To the left I have another 4 in pvc to a 90° ANGLE and attached a 4 in spigot flange with a cap and ring.
On the right side i have another 4 in pvc (going in a straight line) transition to a 3 in pvc. A 3 inch to 2 inch elbow that then transitions to a small 2in. Pvc and shower drain and a for my shower. Am i doing this wrong
@@ladyrenaissance2026 ...or just pump it up
@@Freedomring-uk6yd sump pump?
So much for not disturbing the old cast iron pipe.... looks like the whole thing shifted at 5:04 as he was tightening up the fitting.
+Video Québec He was talking about the lead further back, not the pipe
+Video Québec Man oh man you have good eyes! It does rotate left a tiny bit; I had to watch 5 times......That's a world of hurt there! Good catch!
look a little closer & you can see that the lead is kinda gone. That joint should've been re-poured, or a new donut installed.
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I didn't know anyone is even pouring molten lead anymore. That process drove me OUT of plumbing as a young apprentice. The weight and excessive labor of working with cast iron. Then, some brilliant inventor came up with the rubber "donuts" as you mentioned. It turned everything 180 as far as labor and ease goes.
That rubber reducer with the clamps remind me of the old black water pipe that used a fitting and clamps years ago. Someone will suffer lots of grief someday because of those clamps stainless or not.
Eh... I'm a plumber of 10 years in Canada. This install is alright. My only grievance is the fact the shower is dumping over the lav, and I think they used too many fittings. The lav should be upstream of the shower so the shower can vent when it turns through the 45. I'd prob have put a 6*3 fernco on the hub of the CI. The hub will last way longer than the leaded joint. From there I would of put a 3" Y, the branch picks up the toilet. Bush down to 2", then a 2" Y, the branch picks up the shower, then two 45's to pick up the lav. I think this orientation saves a couple fittings. If the inspector demands a 3" cleanout I would probably put a 3" Y upstream of the toilet Y and have it 45 up into whatever wall near the toilet with an access panel in the drywall.
4:53 when something actually works like you planned.
these comments are simply classic. as soon as he measured the offset at 12.5" and not 13", i knew this was gonna be loaded with goodies. nobody here let me down either. hahahaha.
Standard offset for residential toilet with 1/2 wallboard is 12.5” off of the framing. 13 would be for commercial with rc channel and wallboard.
@@mitchjones2821 true
Umm, what if they going to tile the wall?
@@jamesintriago8816 tell em they cant have it
you don't encase the pipe in concrete, you bury it in thw sand/gravel that's been tamped down to evenly support the pipe
He didn't even clean the cast iron outer surface before installing the rubber coupling.
Code might be different in the area this video was recorded in but where I work we would have needed to use a 3"x4" bushing inside a 4" fernco connecting to that cast iron with a sheer band around the fernco.
Could they have used an air admittance valve?
The real question is why are they putting a master bedroom in the basement?
So the kids won't here mom and dad playing
illegal in most cases building codes.
It puts the lotion on or it gets the hose.
@@KPAU07 \ Building codes. The never ending gov foot in the door. The amount of changes to simple crap over 20 years is insane. So many codes are added just to find something to charge you for.
@@BobBob-we3wr Maybe it's for a rental. If your basement is tall enough, and have the correct sized windows and the correct amount, you can legally build a bedroom.
I like it,I'm technicians plumber from Tanzania, I agreed this cast pipe to change comes to PVC that nice,pls bring us that material in African there so many problems over hire.
The cast iron pipe moves at 5:05
Why does that matter? Wouldn't any pipe move somewhat when being worked on? Genuinely curious.
Garrett it turned in the hub to much not good
@@gjones963 That movement indicates that old style lead joint is deffo leaking at some point in the near future
So the toilet and shower pipes are 1 inch correct? And then you upsized the vanity drain to 2 inches to double as a vent for all 3 fixtures??
80 year old cast iron pipe that’s stood the test of time, let’s use a $2 Chinese coupling and some hose clamps that’ll rust out in 12 months and burry it in concrete.
Is it okay to use those hose clamps in concrete?
I do not know if that piece of corrugated pipe was disconnected like that but I hope they put it back together
0:30 Does it? Their are a lot of places that will allow the home owner to do it so long as they get the proper permits and inspections.
True, but not the tv personality...
I recommend using an electric 12" or 14" saw with a diamond blade for all basement ruff ins.. 14" is best for cutting in one pass any 4 inch cast. Electric becuase the stihl gas saws just stink the whole place up and gives everyone a headache
They didn't use purple primer when gluing the pipes.
So? What's wrong with clear? The inspector decides what color you use not the plumber.
In Los Angeles you have to have a minimum 7 degree slope. Also you have to have the housing inspector sign off on it before you pour the cement.
You are brilliant.they have been doing this for a long time are you sure your not from Iowa
They’re great! I admire those that are great with home improvement and cars. I’m very clueless to that stuff, which is why I chose computers instead.
"We don't want to disrupt this". LOL. Well, YOU DID! 5:04
cringed when i saw it
I was gonna point it out too. But you beat me to it lol. You can see the lead seal joint move. That's a goner.
Shouldn't flexible coupling (rubber fernco) have a stainless steel band/ shield if it's going to be buried underground?
Yes, In Massachutsets is a requirement
Wouldn't the wet vent from the sink fail to vent the other two if someone is running a lot of water down the sink?
Yes, theoretically however the odds of that happening often are not likely. How often do you take a poo while your significant other brushes their teeth?
@@DonJosesito You're obviously not married.
Its a miracle these guys have all their fingers!
Hmmm. Looking at this. I see the elec circuit breaker box. Suppose to have a 3 ft clearance in front of that panel. Code. Can,t tell if this is far enough away from where the lubber is laid down in front?
Did no one notice the cast iron pipe move at 5:05 to 5:07?
Wow, nice catch.
I came to the comments to say that.
Yep, means they broke the lead in the hob. So now this lady has an open sewer line underneath her master bathroom
I did
In which universe regular Fernco band is allowed to be installed indoors under slab? Major no-no.
I agree, it shouldn't be allowed. At least a reducing fernco shouldn't be as there is no way to prevent sheering or swelling. I've put in ferncos below the slab years ago that are still intact today, but only the ones that are the same size for both connections. I just put a sheer band around them to prevent them from flexing in the ground too much
@@andrewwelch5668 What's a sheer band ?
Remove cast from bell, install pvc ferrell, pack pour lead right into that bell, no band not disturbing a thing @ Philadelphia plumbers best tradesman in world
Only if Union
pro tip: use a dry rag to de-burr a freshly sawzawed pvc pipe. Squeeze the lip tight with the rag and give it a spin, it gets it clean fast.
3 issues I see:
1 no backwater check valve to prevent sewage to back flow into basement
2 french drain was cut
3 proper clearance for electric panel
I'd recommend a clean out or a backwater valve
I kind of like the sound of gurgling that comes from unventeted pipes.
You might like the sound, but no one will like the smell of the sewer gasses. Even if you have no sense of smell, it is a fire hazard and a health hazard to let these gases in the house.
This would have been a lot more of a help had you shown how to add a bathroom when there isnt already all the plumbing in place. like show people how to add a bathroom where theres never been one.
i may be mistaken, i believe the working clearance is 3ft in front of electrical panel. the wall looks too close for that.
3' minimum for low voltage (up to 250V)
jwest1305
ike fun, don't go calling people f***** retards when you yourself are one. they arent foot blocks. standard concrete blocks are 16", occasionally they are 14"
ike fun ike fun you're insane! So what you're saying is at 5:15 when his foot is against the masonry wall and his KNEE is on the new wooden wall, that from his foot to knee is 3'???? So that means the next thing is from his knee to hip is again 3 more feet and so on!? So he must be 9-10 feet tall you moron. That wall is roughly 18" away from the face of the panel. It's completely wrong
@@timothybarney7257 It's actually 150V to ground and less, that is the cutoff for working space to always be 3 feet in depth, regardless of surface condition behind the worker. So this would apply for a residential 120/240V system, a 120/208V three-phase wye system, and a 120/208V single phase partial wye system for an apartment dwelling uint.
Over 150V to ground, requires greater working space, depending on the surface condition behind you. So this would apply to high leg delta systems that have a B-phase that is 208V to ground on 120/240V three phase, commercial 277/480V applications, and 347/600V industrial applications. An insulated condition behind you, like a plastic fence, wood, drywall, or vegetation, would still require 3 feet. A conductive or conditionally conductive condition, would require 3'-6", such as concrete block walls, chain link fences, or the backs/sides of other equipment. A common aisle situation between to pieces of equipment would require 4 feet.
Step 1 get 5 gallon bucket.
Step 2 put 5 gallon bucket in basement.
Step 3 drop trow and sit on 5 gallon bucket.
Wipeing optional.
Nice guard on the grinder
Jason Hilton I didn't know you could cut cast iron with a diamond blade. I always use metal cut off wheels
+Jason Hilton for TV, they usually remove safety guards (and put a disclaimer in the end credits) so the work being done is more easily visible to the viewer.
Timothy Barney I never use one anyway ;) can't get it in tight spots when cutting pipe
I hear you. sometimes they are a pain, sometimes they can save you pain.
Long sleeves would have been good to protect from hot, sharp metal fragments, coated in 80 years of shit.
Very nice. I like a little more off the wall, if there is a change and tile added. Plus a half or an inch i like for cleaning. I ask what the customers prefer..
4:17, seriously?
Totally.
Came here to find someone else that noticed this finger roulette!!! LOL
When you're a pro, you're a pro.
And no guard on the grinder.
Should have used a rubber flex from the cast iron joint. Could see the joint coming loose when the put on the 4x3 cross over adapter.
i hope he snaked that old drain be for putting it all together to make sure it was still hooked up i have ran into old pipes unhook from the city sewer system
That's good to remember but I'm sure the lady most likely hired people to demo
agreed
The only thing I could add is putting sand under and around the pipes it will help keep any rocks from concrete damaging your drain lines down the road
Title: How to install a basement bathroom. Finishes 5% of the bathroom and ends the video.
yeah...wheres the other vids?
Man , I was thinking the EXACT same thing. SMH.
@@biff322 True, and they shared only 1 or 2 nuggets on how to do that part.
But also, I'm sure people would've like to have seen them take the process at least to how it ties in with the framing, if not to the drywall phase.
😂😂totlaly
No hearing protection. No gloves. Free hand cutting. Great example to set.
You’re at end of the line with no clean out so that if there is a mainline clog how will you snake the mainline? Pull the toilet?
The venting is ok. It’s called horizontal wet venting where the lavatory is oversized to vent 3 fixtures. Your measurements for the toilet should be 15” on both sides from center and not just 30 inches🌺
How protect pipes under house, on pier beems, built around late 40's. The drain pipes were upgraded to pvc 15 years ago.
The cast iron soil pipe didn't move. Purple primer is only used in certain states, and I'm sure the inspector knew is what going to be done right, so probably not required anyway.a cleanout in this short of a run is not needed when you have such a short throw and they are using a 2" drain anyways. this was done right
Dan purple primer is only used on heat rated pvc such as 636
Ty Cobb. what are you talking about?? primer is used for cleaning and inspection purposes on DWV lines.
But it is not required to pass an inspection
I've only ever seen purple primer used on venting for furnaces
Ty Cobb. you do not know what your talking about, quit replying. Inspectors make their own rules, even in the same county. It varies from state to state. I've had inspectors have me rip out new work and redo it, because they couldn't see the primer!
First off im surprised they had no shrinkage dry-fitting and gluing that whole layout.
Second, why didn't they remove the cast iron all the way to the hub and use a soil pipe adapter?
Why didn't he use primer on any of those pipes? He obviously had some...
the old lead cast iron joint isn't more leakproof, you can see at 3:44 the joint is moving and opening a gap, so the joint should be cracked.
bad job, after pouring the concrete its necrassary to stem off the new solid concrete again to seal up the joint.
great video.. always with this programe.. so nice of u guys
I've always used a Sawzall with a rough diamond blade on cast iron pipe. That grinder with the diamond blade looks way faster.
Harder to get underneath the pipe with it though. I usually just use the diamond grit sawzall blades, then you don't have to dig around the pipe so much
Thought all new work requires purple primer to see if the fittings are properly glued.
according plumbing code every opening need a separate vent to me a bad job that underground plumbing work don't pass inspection in state of Illinois
so you're saying that in Illinois you have to run all indavidal vents and can't run circit vents wet vent combination drain and wast vent commin vents or any other type of vent??
As Richard said, new codes in certain states allow for wet venting. I like wet venting as it does indeed reduce the labor and materials. Of course it has to be done correctly. Also, in close quarters . .or open spaces. . how can you find room to run vent pipes? This is why wet venting was implemented.
IPC 2015
912.1 Horizontal wet vent permitted. Any combination of fixtures within two bathroom groups located on the same floor level is permitted to be vented by a horizontal wet vent. The wet vent shall be considered the vent for the fixtures and shall extend from the connection of the dry vent along the direction of the flow in the drain pipe to the most downstream fixture drain connection to the horizontal branch drain. Each wet-vented fixture drain shall connect independently to the horizontal wet vent. Only the fixtures within the bathroom groups shall connect to the wet-vented horizontal branch drain. Any additional fixtures shall discharge downstream of the horizontal wet vent.
The Canadian plumbing code or National plumbing code has a whole chapter on how to wet-vent!