I started with the moog mother32 because it is a very solid standalone unit that can be completely integrated in a future modular system. it takes you a lot of time to figure out the very basics of modular synthesis but it is a very rewarding thing. don´t cry about all the money spent, it is well worth it. so much fun that never gets old. once your system is growing, so is your knowledge about creating sound. with this kind of system you really can develope your own unique style of music and sound, which is just awesome. here´s what i put together so far: www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/662177 its still growing and is one of the most beautiful things i ever owned ;-) let me know if you have any questions!
Wow... That was truly fantastic! I really didn't expect much from this tutorial at the beginning but then wow.... I have been trying to find new uses for the in and out syncs on my oscillators and this really helped! Great stuff! SUB
Great info. Recently purchased a Korg MS20 to synthesize drum sounds and this looks like the next level. The possibilities are endless with the modular approach. There goes my wallet.
@Steel City Buds Channel Well yeah it is, I agree on that (Although it is still dependant on what kind of a kickdrum you buy ;) But you forget that those things are able to do a lot more than just being a kickdrum. Thats the real beauty of it. The shapeshifting nature of modular. Giving you the opportunity to patch something new up every single time. With an unprecidented control over every single detail you can dream of. And that is an amazing thing, right? :) Edit: I still found your comment really funny :D
I love this stuff I really do but sometimes I am like "I am just going to go grab that pearl kick drum and and a sweet ribbon mic with that tube pre and make that kick the old fashion way" lol.
At 4:24: "So then I take the output of the second envelope and put it to the pitch input". No, you don't, Toby! According to the layout of the Z3000, you actually put it into the FM2 input! I was wondering why I didn't get the same sound even though I was using the same envelope and oscillator modules, and this was driving me crazy! Later in the video, at 7:00 to be exact, he actually patches one of the attenuverter outputs of the Maths to the 1v/o input on the Z3000 to control the pitch.
Careful! I shorted out my whole rack twice by letting patch cables dangle down over bus connections like that. Fortunately my power supply protected everything but still.
Hey he has five modules An envelope generator(make noise maths) A four channel mixer(vca4mx) An oscillator(tiptopz3000) A cross filter/out- a-138d And a lfo-a145 ---- He takes the clock of the pulse log to envelope 1 trig(maths) He takes that same trig out into env 2 Then the same trig from 2 into Oscar sync function(vca) He then takes all 4 Oscillator outputs into the 4 channel inputs He takes the mixer(vca) into the a138d so you can hear it on your system Afterwards he takes the env 1 output to a mixers cv input Then the mixer cv input to the other 3 channels input. Later he takes the env 2 out into the oscillator pitch Then an extra envelope into the osc pitch Then he takes the mix and puts it through a filter Then the trig out into sync. I may not have put it all correct especially towards the end. But I’ll edit later if I have to.
@@considercaption Do you have any ideea how can i control the clock in vcv with a external midi controller? To my knowledge i need the midi -cv module but when i try to connect the clock from the midi module to the lfo nothing happens
sorry, i don't understand well at 1:55, connecting the 2nd Maths trigger input to the sync input of VCO? From input to input?... Sorry, because I'm a newbie. The camera POV is not so understandable.
Thank you Tobi. You are an f***ing expert. I ve seen it a few times. If anyone is interested and wants to learn more about it join our course in Berlin on 11th October 16 @ Noisy Academy with Stefan Knauthe. Stefan will explain in Ableton Live how it all works and it will make your decision to buy a modular system easier.
i am going to start with modular but didn't know which modules to buy, wel now i know haha. how would you implement this in ableton, just record a one bar loop?
Jan De Buysser you can get very similar results w/ operator, it has the same modules more or less; multiple instances of different sound generators (operators in this case) with mix control, there is a pitch envelope, plus much much more. Would suggest to just look up how to create a kickdrum w/ operator, ought to get you on the way
Nice video and tutorial, but its a risk to have the case open like you have . Dpnt show the new guys this. A cable can contact the psu or a other power line. Its a bit dangerous ...
That VCA should have the CV in normaled to all channels, no? Luckily I have most of those modules... save the 4 channel VCA, now I have another excuse to pick up another module.
that cwejman is worth more than the rest of the modules combined. this was the video that go me into modular and it's emotional damaging to know i just cant justify the cost of owning that vca/mixer ( probably )
The VCA module he was using IS a mixer. So why have two modules when one will do. Also he wants independent VCA control of each wave form, rather than mixing the waves then applying the VCA after. Hence the use of two of the envelopes on the MATHS module
+GreatMateWorkshop You are correct. Either arrangement will work the same effect. In fact most people don't have 4 VCAs to dedicate to a kick! Makes much more sense to mix then into a single VCA. I think he only did it the other way because that's how that particular module is set up.
excellet vid, someone has a recom to record this on a more accurate bpm? i'm currently using voltage modular from cherry audio, i tryna rec but the transient keeps moving slightly from the 1.1 bar postion, it does not keep constantly
i don't understand how you just get a kick drum sound like that. I've tried this method with various envelopes, oscillators, gates vs lfos... all I get is fart noises. this sounds like a compressed kick drum, and mine sounds nothing like that. I don't have MATHS, so maybe that's why. doesn't make any sense though. i suck
the reason he's syncing it is to make sure the waveform starts on the start of the transient, not because it will drift out of time.... its not traktor ctfu* edit: autocorrect fucked ctfu up
+James Porch The Mbase interface is terrible to use and you are forgetting that those Eurorack modules could easily create a huge variety of lead, bass and percussion sounds also..
***** Yeah Jomox interface is terrible on my 888. You're right, having everything per knob and open to cross patching is much wider in potential. Urgent call for more patchcables!
I never thought to sync the VCO to the kick pulse to insure the waveform starts at the same point for every hit. Thanks!
Kick is the most important ingredient, and this is the best video on how to do it in eurorack. I've watched it five times now. Thank you!
I made the mistake to start building up a modular system and it turned out to be one of the greatest things ever. seriously.
I need to know how to do that... I love these sorts of projects
I started with the moog mother32 because it is a very solid standalone unit that can be completely integrated in a future modular system. it takes you a lot of time to figure out the very basics of modular synthesis but it is a very rewarding thing. don´t cry about all the money spent, it is well worth it. so much fun that never gets old. once your system is growing, so is your knowledge about creating sound. with this kind of system you really can develope your own unique style of music and sound, which is just awesome. here´s what i put together so far: www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/662177
its still growing and is one of the most beautiful things i ever owned ;-)
let me know if you have any questions!
Gabber kick tutorial 2016
I will not start to buy a modular. I will not start to buy a modular...
+Padbangers Good luck!
+Padbangers you sound like every modular owner i know
I made the mistake and I'm not going back
then buy a semi-modular Moog mother32 :D
I was thinking the exact same thing...
he made all my favorite style kicks so easy :O
Tobi the analog king😊
Damn, that dude knows his stuff....
+L. Willis Mr. Neumann is a don
His slices tech talks is worth watching as well. It's short but just oozes wisdom, very knowledgeable guy
its not that advanced to be honest once you know some things
exactly, it's really not that complicated it's just understanding signal routing/DSP
Yes very very basic and important concepts
Somehow I never thought about using the oscillator sync. Great Stuff.
love it ,that's the way I got into music , I had a teacher in high school that show me this style some how .
Wow... That was truly fantastic! I really didn't expect much from this tutorial at the beginning but then wow.... I have been trying to find new uses for the in and out syncs on my oscillators and this really helped! Great stuff! SUB
Who could possibly give this a thumbs down? Bravo and thanks Tobi !!!
This video invites me to drop all « ready made » sound modules !!! 😮
His modular setup in his studio had me drooling!
think there's a sample called 'analogkick1' which you can download if not
Great info. Recently purchased a Korg MS20 to synthesize drum sounds and this looks like the next level. The possibilities are endless with the modular approach. There goes my wallet.
I always admire your sound, underground feelings from Chile
"Its highly addictive, I warn you"
This kick drum is more expensive than an actual kick drum
... but it can make GABBA! :D
@Steel City Buds Channel Well yeah it is, I agree on that (Although it is still dependant on what kind of a kickdrum you buy ;)
But you forget that those things are able to do a lot more than just being a kickdrum. Thats the real beauty of it. The shapeshifting nature of modular. Giving you the opportunity to patch something new up every single time. With an unprecidented control over every single detail you can dream of. And that is an amazing thing, right? :)
Edit:
I still found your comment really funny :D
Now I know how to make a bass drum. Great method that I can now use to create other sounds. Cheers.
Very simple but great idea to use all the waveform outputs for a kickdrum!
Thank you Tobi for this modular inspiration!!!!
i kept waiting for his cable to hit the power supply...
+quixotic7 LoL
Just what I was waiting for. Sizzle sizzle red stripe wouldn't matter.
Im watching like ”DUDE! Close your case”
I love this stuff I really do but sometimes I am like "I am just going to go grab that pearl kick drum and and a sweet ribbon mic with that tube pre and make that kick the old fashion way" lol.
Knows his tools, coole Socke der Tobi....dankeschööön :)
when he said gabba kick it reminded me of the good old days that hardcore wasn't just a one kick party
Awesome! "it's highly addictive"... no shit!!! :)
So how much equipment and cables do you need to make a full drum kit? :/
never thought of the sync trick. Thanks !
At 4:24: "So then I take the output of the second envelope and put it to the pitch input". No, you don't, Toby! According to the layout of the Z3000, you actually put it into the FM2 input! I was wondering why I didn't get the same sound even though I was using the same envelope and oscillator modules, and this was driving me crazy! Later in the video, at 7:00 to be exact, he actually patches one of the attenuverter outputs of the Maths to the 1v/o input on the Z3000 to control the pitch.
LOVE THE PASSION :) AND GOOD VIDEO THANK YOU.
Genius! thanks Tabi and DJ TT...
Careful! I shorted out my whole rack twice by letting patch cables dangle down over bus connections like that. Fortunately my power supply protected everything but still.
oh god this is my nightmare scenario
When all your cables are stackables...total boss.
Never drop another end of the patch cable inside the case as the guy did - you can short circuit your system!
Shit man, your pro pic is awesome. Who's the artist?
It's DKNG studio art, head to their website at dkngstudios.com and search for "moog", they have more
That is really fucking cool.
awesome. I want to make my kick drums using modular synthesis
This guy is brilliant
You ar de best
are there any videos about this but showing you how to create all the diferents sounds in a loop?
Tobi is amazing
It’s highly addictive i warn you….. 😂😂😂😂😂
Great video!
great video...wish there was a better top down angle where it was easier to se the patch.
please make more videos like this one but for newbies
great vid man,
"its highly addictive , i warn you" ;)
If someone was to write up all the connections I would be eternally grateful.
Hey he has five modules
An envelope generator(make noise maths)
A four channel mixer(vca4mx)
An oscillator(tiptopz3000)
A cross filter/out- a-138d
And a lfo-a145
----
He takes the clock of the pulse log to envelope 1 trig(maths)
He takes that same trig out into env 2
Then the same trig from 2 into Oscar sync function(vca)
He then takes all 4 Oscillator outputs into the 4 channel inputs
He takes the mixer(vca) into the a138d so you can hear it on your system
Afterwards he takes the env 1 output to a mixers cv input
Then the mixer cv input to the other 3 channels input.
Later he takes the env 2 out into the oscillator pitch
Then an extra envelope into the osc pitch
Then he takes the mix and puts it through a filter
Then the trig out into sync.
I may not have put it all correct especially towards the end. But I’ll edit later if I have to.
The best reply you could of asked for
@@considercaption Do you have any ideea how can i control the clock in vcv with a external midi controller? To my knowledge i need the midi -cv module but when i try to connect the clock from the midi module to the lfo nothing happens
Nice video!
This is Raketentechnik
tobi you are awesome.....so, how would you recommend someone break into this sound desgn, music production menagerie?
Thank you!
I guess you need an analog Speedmaster to accurately measure the release of the envelopes ;-)
best kickdrum how to ...ever..(watch this video affect your wallet...please DON'T)
Correct me if im wrong please but can you make the exact same kickdrum possibilitys with the Pittsburgh Lifeforms SV-1?
im doing this now : ) is awesome! many many thanks!!! : ))))
Where can I find those type of patch leads? Do they have a name?
+Sine Skeller They're Tip Top Audio stackables.
+J. Talbert Thanks!
That feeling of relief when he starts listing the necessary modules and you realize you have all of them lol. Day is safe.
so much more creative and interesting ... than, edm jocks punching multiple kick samples ...
He knows how to do it.
How/where would the Optomix be inserted in this chain?
Good share wikid.
sorry, i don't understand well at 1:55, connecting the 2nd Maths trigger input to the sync input of VCO? From input to input?... Sorry, because I'm a newbie. The camera POV is not so understandable.
If you make the same patch on Reaktor 6, you will get the same analog style imperfections for every hit.
Thank you Tobi. You are an f***ing expert. I ve seen it a few times.
If anyone is interested and wants to learn more about it join our course in Berlin on 11th October 16 @ Noisy Academy with Stefan Knauthe. Stefan will explain in Ableton Live how it all works and it will make your decision to buy a modular system easier.
"if i wanna make gabba" hahahhahahahha im dying :D
Awesome
Wow you are a genius
thanks toby : )
i am going to start with modular but didn't know which modules to buy, wel now i know haha. how would you implement this in ableton, just record a one bar loop?
Jan De Buysser you can get very similar results w/ operator, it has the same modules more or less; multiple instances of different sound generators (operators in this case) with mix control, there is a pitch envelope, plus much much more. Would suggest to just look up how to create a kickdrum w/ operator, ought to get you on the way
love him
so en guete!
great!
Nice video and tutorial, but its a risk to have the case open like you have . Dpnt show the new guys this. A cable can contact the psu or a other power line. Its a bit dangerous ...
That VCA should have the CV in normaled to all channels, no? Luckily I have most of those modules... save the 4 channel VCA, now I have another excuse to pick up another module.
Nice
THIS GUY FUCKING RULES!
I take de clock of de Äll Äff Ooh - just de palls! 🤣🤣
that cwejman is worth more than the rest of the modules combined. this was the video that go me into modular and it's emotional damaging to know i just cant justify the cost of owning that vca/mixer ( probably )
Hi! You can use the quad VCA from Intelligel: 200 euros max. It's an alternative....
Instead of using all the VCAs was not possible to mix them with a mixer, and then pass the mix through the VCA? Maybe I'm wrong..
Anyway, great video!
The VCA module he was using IS a mixer. So why have two modules when one will do. Also he wants independent VCA control of each wave form, rather than mixing the waves then applying the VCA after. Hence the use of two of the envelopes on the MATHS module
+GreatMateWorkshop
You are correct. Either arrangement will work the same effect. In fact most people don't have 4 VCAs to dedicate to a kick! Makes much more sense to mix then into a single VCA. I think he only did it the other way because that's how that particular module is set up.
excellet vid, someone has a recom to record this on a more accurate bpm? i'm currently using voltage modular from cherry audio, i tryna rec but the transient keeps moving slightly from the 1.1 bar postion, it does not keep constantly
i sended the 2con envelope out to the hard sync but didnt worked
I put ze CeeVee in ze envelop
If i vanted to make ze Gabba
what a guy
dankeee
i don't understand how you just get a kick drum sound like that. I've tried this method with various envelopes, oscillators, gates vs lfos... all I get is fart noises. this sounds like a compressed kick drum, and mine sounds nothing like that. I don't have MATHS, so maybe that's why. doesn't make any sense though. i suck
the reason he's syncing it is to make sure the waveform starts on the start of the transient, not because it will drift out of time.... its not traktor ctfu*
edit: autocorrect fucked ctfu up
Nice.
he's such a Canadian you can tell with the accent...
omg heart attack seeing the cables hanging in to the case...
8:59 uh-uh I don't want my kick drum to sound different every time
fucking awesome :)
Don´t throw your cables against bus board. ⚡💥 🔥
Hi I’m Toby I have my own studio 10 4 10 4 Pat on the back inbound
Dj scientist !!!! Wow
I wish I could use it on a plane ^_^
Wow!
Jomox Mbase seems suddenly cheap and easy compared to this, does it not?
+James Porch The Mbase interface is terrible to use and you are forgetting that those Eurorack modules could easily create a huge variety of lead, bass and percussion sounds also..
***** Yeah Jomox interface is terrible on my 888. You're right, having everything per knob and open to cross patching is much wider in potential. Urgent call for more patchcables!
James Porch
Amen! :)
is this how we create kick in the past?
Speedmaster!! :)
WOW!!!!
Jes cooles tutorial..Ich mache mir auch lieber den kick selbst als ein sample..ist irgendwie persönlicher 😂✌🇦🇹