How To Make An Analog Kick with Tobi Neumann

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    Tobi Neumann shares a tutorial on making fun analog kick bass drum with a simple set of modular synthesizer gear; recorded at Riverside Studios in Berlin. Read more here: djtechtools.com/2016/01/13/mak... - Watch more videos from this series: ua-cam.com/users/playlist?list...
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  • @precarious333
    @precarious333 7 років тому +56

    I never thought to sync the VCO to the kick pulse to insure the waveform starts at the same point for every hit. Thanks!

  • @newdensity7553
    @newdensity7553 Рік тому +4

    Kick is the most important ingredient, and this is the best video on how to do it in eurorack. I've watched it five times now. Thank you!

  • @pingazzzz
    @pingazzzz 8 років тому +70

    Gabber kick tutorial 2016

  • @XYtoTheDoubleG
    @XYtoTheDoubleG 6 років тому +3

    Wow... That was truly fantastic! I really didn't expect much from this tutorial at the beginning but then wow.... I have been trying to find new uses for the in and out syncs on my oscillators and this really helped! Great stuff! SUB

  • @delinquentdialect5869
    @delinquentdialect5869 7 років тому +25

    "Its highly addictive, I warn you"

  • @beatoold5986
    @beatoold5986 8 років тому +1

    I always admire your sound, underground feelings from Chile

  • @noahtorres7761
    @noahtorres7761 8 років тому +1

    love it ,that's the way I got into music , I had a teacher in high school that show me this style some how .

  • @mitchshivers
    @mitchshivers 3 роки тому

    Thank you Tobi for this modular inspiration!!!!

  • @umana93
    @umana93 8 років тому +7

    he made all my favorite style kicks so easy :O

  • @agro0
    @agro0 8 років тому +43

    Damn, that dude knows his stuff....

    • @goemon4
      @goemon4 8 років тому +2

      +L. Willis Mr. Neumann is a don
      His slices tech talks is worth watching as well. It's short but just oozes wisdom, very knowledgeable guy

    • @IIRojakII
      @IIRojakII 7 років тому +5

      its not that advanced to be honest once you know some things

    • @MaddDrEw
      @MaddDrEw 7 років тому +2

      exactly, it's really not that complicated it's just understanding signal routing/DSP

    • @FrancisXu0420
      @FrancisXu0420 6 років тому +1

      Yes very very basic and important concepts

  • @AndrewJohnClive
    @AndrewJohnClive 7 років тому

    Genius! thanks Tabi and DJ TT...

  • @zenzero1356
    @zenzero1356 5 років тому

    Great info. Recently purchased a Korg MS20 to synthesize drum sounds and this looks like the next level. The possibilities are endless with the modular approach. There goes my wallet.

  • @Padbangers
    @Padbangers 8 років тому +250

    I will not start to buy a modular. I will not start to buy a modular...

    • @IgorGuerrero
      @IgorGuerrero 8 років тому +4

      +Padbangers Good luck!

    • @wombora
      @wombora 8 років тому +15

      +Padbangers you sound like every modular owner i know

    • @F1tznbitz
      @F1tznbitz 8 років тому +3

      I made the mistake and I'm not going back

    • @LaurentLaborde
      @LaurentLaborde 8 років тому +3

      then buy a semi-modular Moog mother32 :D

    • @Zirko0
      @Zirko0 8 років тому +2

      I was thinking the exact same thing...

  • @els1f
    @els1f 8 років тому +3

    Somehow I never thought about using the oscillator sync. Great Stuff.

  • @SPAZit101
    @SPAZit101 8 років тому

    His modular setup in his studio had me drooling!

  • @julians7785
    @julians7785 6 років тому

    never thought of the sync trick. Thanks !

  • @playboxadministrator9229
    @playboxadministrator9229 7 років тому

    Now I know how to make a bass drum. Great method that I can now use to create other sounds. Cheers.

  • @ryansturgiss4115
    @ryansturgiss4115 2 роки тому

    LOVE THE PASSION :) AND GOOD VIDEO THANK YOU.

  • @Goldkalb
    @Goldkalb 6 років тому +7

    I made the mistake to start building up a modular system and it turned out to be one of the greatest things ever. seriously.

    • @henryturner-ward3879
      @henryturner-ward3879 6 років тому

      I need to know how to do that... I love these sorts of projects

    • @Goldkalb
      @Goldkalb 6 років тому +2

      I started with the moog mother32 because it is a very solid standalone unit that can be completely integrated in a future modular system. it takes you a lot of time to figure out the very basics of modular synthesis but it is a very rewarding thing. don´t cry about all the money spent, it is well worth it. so much fun that never gets old. once your system is growing, so is your knowledge about creating sound. with this kind of system you really can develope your own unique style of music and sound, which is just awesome. here´s what i put together so far: www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/662177
      its still growing and is one of the most beautiful things i ever owned ;-)
      let me know if you have any questions!

  • @danielrast
    @danielrast 6 років тому

    Very simple but great idea to use all the waveform outputs for a kickdrum!

  • @RobertCharlesMann
    @RobertCharlesMann 5 років тому +1

    Who could possibly give this a thumbs down? Bravo and thanks Tobi !!!

  • @thediep9146
    @thediep9146 6 років тому

    Great video!

  • @contumancia
    @contumancia 8 років тому

    im doing this now : ) is awesome! many many thanks!!! : ))))

  • @allyouracid
    @allyouracid 4 роки тому +6

    "It's highly addictive" - even just watching it is highly dangerous!

  • @zenluiz
    @zenluiz 8 років тому

    Nice video!

  • @MondstaubMusik
    @MondstaubMusik 8 років тому +2

    Knows his tools, coole Socke der Tobi....dankeschööön :)

  • @threeinitiates8260
    @threeinitiates8260 7 років тому

    Thank you!

  • @user-ci6go6wz7p
    @user-ci6go6wz7p 8 років тому +3

    You ar de best

  • @peterb7435
    @peterb7435 7 років тому

    Tobi is amazing

  • @bFOURdwZEROlf
    @bFOURdwZEROlf 7 років тому

    awesome. I want to make my kick drums using modular synthesis

  • @infinitebisous
    @infinitebisous 8 років тому +5

    think there's a sample called 'analogkick1' which you can download if not

  • @davidsimmons9843
    @davidsimmons9843 8 років тому

    tobi you are awesome.....so, how would you recommend someone break into this sound desgn, music production menagerie?

  • @jdown330
    @jdown330 6 років тому

    This guy is brilliant

  • @AdamTheAd-vanc3d
    @AdamTheAd-vanc3d 6 років тому

    Good share wikid.

  • @contumancia
    @contumancia 8 років тому

    thanks toby : )

  • @christianmarucco5296
    @christianmarucco5296 8 років тому

    are there any videos about this but showing you how to create all the diferents sounds in a loop?

  • @quixotic7
    @quixotic7 8 років тому +50

    i kept waiting for his cable to hit the power supply...

    • @ClausHvass
      @ClausHvass 8 років тому

      +quixotic7 LoL

    • @robbrobb7587
      @robbrobb7587 7 років тому +2

      Just what I was waiting for. Sizzle sizzle red stripe wouldn't matter.

    • @naturligfunktion4232
      @naturligfunktion4232 6 років тому +2

      Im watching like ”DUDE! Close your case”

  • @bubi0083
    @bubi0083 Рік тому +1

    Tobi the analog king😊

  • @user-jx5lq8pf5h
    @user-jx5lq8pf5h 8 років тому

    love him

  • @controledj
    @controledj 8 років тому +1

    Awesome

  • @UnderGreyPreassure
    @UnderGreyPreassure 8 років тому

    please make more videos like this one but for newbies

  • @wessside
    @wessside 7 років тому

    great!

  • @steelcitybudschannel2804
    @steelcitybudschannel2804 5 років тому +64

    This kick drum is more expensive than an actual kick drum

    • @elrafa964
      @elrafa964 4 роки тому +12

      ... but it can make GABBA! :D

    • @jurj4108
      @jurj4108 4 роки тому +3

      @Steel City Buds Channel Well yeah it is, I agree on that (Although it is still dependant on what kind of a kickdrum you buy ;)
      But you forget that those things are able to do a lot more than just being a kickdrum. Thats the real beauty of it. The shapeshifting nature of modular. Giving you the opportunity to patch something new up every single time. With an unprecidented control over every single detail you can dream of. And that is an amazing thing, right? :)
      Edit:
      I still found your comment really funny :D

  • @mrbukse1
    @mrbukse1 8 років тому

    Correct me if im wrong please but can you make the exact same kickdrum possibilitys with the Pittsburgh Lifeforms SV-1?

  • @mej6519
    @mej6519 8 років тому +2

    great vid man,
    "its highly addictive , i warn you" ;)

  • @EntonDelMonte
    @EntonDelMonte 7 років тому

    so en guete!

  • @fourfourjunkie
    @fourfourjunkie 8 років тому +4

    I love this stuff I really do but sometimes I am like "I am just going to go grab that pearl kick drum and and a sweet ribbon mic with that tube pre and make that kick the old fashion way" lol.

  • @robotboot
    @robotboot 8 років тому

    great video...wish there was a better top down angle where it was easier to se the patch.

  • @hulqen
    @hulqen 4 роки тому

    At 4:24: "So then I take the output of the second envelope and put it to the pitch input". No, you don't, Toby! According to the layout of the Z3000, you actually put it into the FM2 input! I was wondering why I didn't get the same sound even though I was using the same envelope and oscillator modules, and this was driving me crazy! Later in the video, at 7:00 to be exact, he actually patches one of the attenuverter outputs of the Maths to the 1v/o input on the Z3000 to control the pitch.

  • @psysword
    @psysword 8 років тому

    Wow you are a genius

  • @q3rageq3
    @q3rageq3 7 років тому +16

    Never drop another end of the patch cable inside the case as the guy did - you can short circuit your system!

    • @joesmith4546
      @joesmith4546 7 років тому

      Shit man, your pro pic is awesome. Who's the artist?

    • @q3rageq3
      @q3rageq3 7 років тому +1

      It's DKNG studio art, head to their website at dkngstudios.com and search for "moog", they have more

  • @ru13r44
    @ru13r44 7 років тому

    Wow!

  • @MikeDGF76er
    @MikeDGF76er 8 років тому +1

    Nice

  • @MauricioMaisterrena
    @MauricioMaisterrena 8 років тому +1

    So how much equipment and cables do you need to make a full drum kit? :/

  • @pquic
    @pquic 5 років тому +1

    when he said gabba kick it reminded me of the good old days that hardcore wasn't just a one kick party

  • @FrankFra
    @FrankFra 8 років тому

    He knows how to do it.

  • @chasethevioletsun9996
    @chasethevioletsun9996 3 роки тому +3

    Careful! I shorted out my whole rack twice by letting patch cables dangle down over bus connections like that. Fortunately my power supply protected everything but still.

  • @cwgodwin1
    @cwgodwin1 8 років тому

    WOW!!!!

  • @Jeffeffect1
    @Jeffeffect1 3 роки тому

    How/where would the Optomix be inserted in this chain?

  • @mikepagliosa
    @mikepagliosa 8 років тому

    Thank you Tobi. You are an f***ing expert. I ve seen it a few times.
    If anyone is interested and wants to learn more about it join our course in Berlin on 11th October 16 @ Noisy Academy with Stefan Knauthe. Stefan will explain in Ableton Live how it all works and it will make your decision to buy a modular system easier.

  • @Atom15
    @Atom15 8 років тому

    Nice.

  • @mfThump
    @mfThump 8 років тому +1

    That is really fucking cool.

  • @blackjo56
    @blackjo56 4 роки тому

    excellet vid, someone has a recom to record this on a more accurate bpm? i'm currently using voltage modular from cherry audio, i tryna rec but the transient keeps moving slightly from the 1.1 bar postion, it does not keep constantly

    • @blackjo56
      @blackjo56 4 роки тому

      i sended the 2con envelope out to the hard sync but didnt worked

  • @piotr803
    @piotr803 5 років тому

    When all your cables are stackables...total boss.

  • @shlamhabor
    @shlamhabor 8 років тому +1

    "if i wanna make gabba" hahahhahahahha im dying :D

  • @jandebuyssere
    @jandebuyssere 7 років тому

    i am going to start with modular but didn't know which modules to buy, wel now i know haha. how would you implement this in ableton, just record a one bar loop?

    • @ards5161
      @ards5161 7 років тому +1

      Jan De Buysser you can get very similar results w/ operator, it has the same modules more or less; multiple instances of different sound generators (operators in this case) with mix control, there is a pitch envelope, plus much much more. Would suggest to just look up how to create a kickdrum w/ operator, ought to get you on the way

  • @sleep4103
    @sleep4103 4 роки тому

    dankeee

  • @AudioPervert1
    @AudioPervert1 8 років тому

    so much more creative and interesting ... than, edm jocks punching multiple kick samples ...

  • @luvdattek
    @luvdattek 9 місяців тому

    This video invites me to drop all « ready made » sound modules !!! 😮

  • @instantknut
    @instantknut 8 років тому +3

    I guess you need an analog Speedmaster to accurately measure the release of the envelopes ;-)

  • @keshavrao27
    @keshavrao27 8 років тому

    Dj scientist !!!! Wow

  • @FUNCULOBUSH
    @FUNCULOBUSH 4 роки тому

    Which LPG he is talking about?

  • @nzd8870
    @nzd8870 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome! "it's highly addictive"... no shit!!! :)

  • @eph_kni
    @eph_kni 4 роки тому

    that cwejman is worth more than the rest of the modules combined. this was the video that go me into modular and it's emotional damaging to know i just cant justify the cost of owning that vca/mixer ( probably )

  • @SineSkeller
    @SineSkeller 8 років тому +1

    Where can I find those type of patch leads? Do they have a name?

    • @j.talbert9043
      @j.talbert9043 8 років тому +1

      +Sine Skeller They're Tip Top Audio stackables.

    • @SineSkeller
      @SineSkeller 8 років тому

      +J. Talbert Thanks!

  • @stephenstrang590
    @stephenstrang590 7 років тому +4

    If someone was to write up all the connections I would be eternally grateful.

    • @considercaption
      @considercaption 3 роки тому +4

      Hey he has five modules
      An envelope generator(make noise maths)
      A four channel mixer(vca4mx)
      An oscillator(tiptopz3000)
      A cross filter/out- a-138d
      And a lfo-a145
      ----
      He takes the clock of the pulse log to envelope 1 trig(maths)
      He takes that same trig out into env 2
      Then the same trig from 2 into Oscar sync function(vca)
      He then takes all 4 Oscillator outputs into the 4 channel inputs
      He takes the mixer(vca) into the a138d so you can hear it on your system
      Afterwards he takes the env 1 output to a mixers cv input
      Then the mixer cv input to the other 3 channels input.
      Later he takes the env 2 out into the oscillator pitch
      Then an extra envelope into the osc pitch
      Then he takes the mix and puts it through a filter
      Then the trig out into sync.
      I may not have put it all correct especially towards the end. But I’ll edit later if I have to.

    • @epicwhaleburger
      @epicwhaleburger 3 роки тому

      The best reply you could of asked for

    • @ove1312
      @ove1312 11 місяців тому

      @@considercaption Do you have any ideea how can i control the clock in vcv with a external midi controller? To my knowledge i need the midi -cv module but when i try to connect the clock from the midi module to the lfo nothing happens

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 6 років тому

    Speedmaster!! :)

  • @emilyschmanks
    @emilyschmanks 4 роки тому

    what a guy

  • @Cepagemusic
    @Cepagemusic 4 роки тому +1

    That feeling of relief when he starts listing the necessary modules and you realize you have all of them lol. Day is safe.

  • @sandro1017
    @sandro1017 6 років тому +7

    This is Raketentechnik

  • @rossmotus669
    @rossmotus669 2 роки тому

    sorry, i don't understand well at 1:55, connecting the 2nd Maths trigger input to the sync input of VCO? From input to input?... Sorry, because I'm a newbie. The camera POV is not so understandable.

  • @guitarvibe75
    @guitarvibe75 7 років тому +4

    If you make the same patch on Reaktor 6, you will get the same analog style imperfections for every hit.

  • @DelasVC
    @DelasVC 2 роки тому

    I take de clock of de Äll Äff Ooh - just de palls! 🤣🤣

  • @christianmarucco5296
    @christianmarucco5296 8 років тому

    THIS GUY FUCKING RULES!

  • @brianobush
    @brianobush 8 років тому +1

    That VCA should have the CV in normaled to all channels, no? Luckily I have most of those modules... save the 4 channel VCA, now I have another excuse to pick up another module.

  • @worldwidevideotube
    @worldwidevideotube 6 років тому

    I wish I could use it on a plane ^_^

  • @caspermaster-com
    @caspermaster-com 7 років тому

    fucking awesome :)

  • @PapaLuke
    @PapaLuke 8 років тому

    Ya looks like im a continue to use sample kicks

  • @riktich
    @riktich 6 років тому +10

    I put ze CeeVee in ze envelop

  • @carlitsoseg
    @carlitsoseg 8 років тому

    Jeus!

  • @greatmateworkshop9764
    @greatmateworkshop9764 7 років тому

    Instead of using all the VCAs was not possible to mix them with a mixer, and then pass the mix through the VCA? Maybe I'm wrong..
    Anyway, great video!

    • @delinquentdialect5869
      @delinquentdialect5869 7 років тому +1

      The VCA module he was using IS a mixer. So why have two modules when one will do. Also he wants independent VCA control of each wave form, rather than mixing the waves then applying the VCA after. Hence the use of two of the envelopes on the MATHS module

    • @precarious333
      @precarious333 7 років тому +1

      +GreatMateWorkshop
      You are correct. Either arrangement will work the same effect. In fact most people don't have 4 VCAs to dedicate to a kick! Makes much more sense to mix then into a single VCA. I think he only did it the other way because that's how that particular module is set up.

  • @steelcitybudschannel2804
    @steelcitybudschannel2804 5 років тому

    Hi I’m Toby I have my own studio 10 4 10 4 Pat on the back inbound

  • @acidjack
    @acidjack 7 років тому +3

    Nice video and tutorial, but its a risk to have the case open like you have . Dpnt show the new guys this. A cable can contact the psu or a other power line. Its a bit dangerous ...

  • @mosai6950
    @mosai6950 8 років тому +1

    the reason he's syncing it is to make sure the waveform starts on the start of the transient, not because it will drift out of time.... its not traktor ctfu*
    edit: autocorrect fucked ctfu up

  • @thefoxfamily341
    @thefoxfamily341 2 роки тому

    Jes cooles tutorial..Ich mache mir auch lieber den kick selbst als ein sample..ist irgendwie persönlicher 😂✌🇦🇹

  • @kimrunic5874
    @kimrunic5874 8 років тому +1

    8:59 uh-uh I don't want my kick drum to sound different every time

  • @rawesome1000
    @rawesome1000 8 років тому +1

    omg heart attack seeing the cables hanging in to the case...

  • @lprophit
    @lprophit 3 роки тому

    he's such a Canadian you can tell with the accent...

  • @hardtekk90
    @hardtekk90 8 років тому

    Nice, but that Jupiter 8 tho...

  • @zbsfm
    @zbsfm 4 роки тому

    omg this guy is adorable