A video on how to basically sync the TD-3 to Ableton in two different ways. - Sending midi notes to the TD-3 - Playing the Patterns while synced to Abelton
@@303Guy that's actually the problem haha I have to CRANK my volume to even hear the audio from the vid. So when we go to anything else it's going to redline the audio.
Omg , you are my hero!!, i just bought it 3 weeks ago, and couldn't get it working in ableton, there where noten coming in bu i heard nothing, this is a True lifesaver, now i can make some Patterns😂 thank you for making this!!
Great channel. I've learnt loads. Can the td3 pitch be controlled by external midi, in a live situation for example, or do you have to manually tune it for every track?
The problem I have when in sync mode is that in order for the TD3 to play in time you have to use a very low buffer size which is a problem as a project develops as it is inevitable the buffer will need to be increased and the td3 sync will lag. Unless I am missing something the only way around this is to record the patterns to audio early in the project which is not very inspiring and also will limit its use for adding another live pattern later in the project..
Great video! You can use the Mono Sequencer to trigger slides and accents. Just use velocity for accent and duration for slides. The longer the duration, the longer the slide. The accent threshold velocity can be set in Synth Tool.
Kudos on video bro. I have a quick q. I’m using Ableton session view and triggering scenes. Only problem I’m encountering is the td-3 is playing for each and every scene... I just want it to be engage for one! Any ideas ? (I’m using the sync mode as per your video - not track)
When you’re recording the accents and slides into your daw, can you program the accents and slides from the actual TD 3 itself? For some reason I’ve been hearing that you can’t and I also use logic. And how would you do the filter cutoff knobs and etc?
Hey man, really useful tutorial! Just what I was looking for how to get the patterns working in Ableton! But is there any way of recording in sync mode to MIDI? Can only seem to record the patterns into Audio! Thanks man
Try opening an audio channel and also a midi channel then recording the midi signal. There's two ways of setting up and external instrument. This video shows one but I use the other way. I can record midi from my devices. I only bought the td3 today so I'm not certain but pretty sure it'll be doable.
Worth adding too, that I'm finding the td-3 a little thin and plasticky sounding. It just doesn't have the balls, guts, and depth of the 303, or TB-3 sadly. And suffers from the same unintuitive note inputting, and other functions, and sort of gets in the way of any real-time idea flows (which was an issue with the original 303). Whereas with TB-3 you're straight in with real-time playing, key changes, or voice changes. Though, to be fair, at the price they're sold at, behringer have done really well in making it fairly accessible to most folk's pay packet.
This worked for logic thanks. my question is how would you get your DAW to record the automation for the cutoff, resonance, envelope, and decay knobs when jamming on the TD 3?
It is unlikely that the automation using cc number in Ableton can be achieved for the Behringer TD-3, as the device does not support cc parameters. However, it may be possible to utilize a USB modular output and connect it to the 303, allowing for control through the patch bay. But even that is limited
Thanks for the tutorial! You said you have your td3 connected to your sound card on channel 3. This might be stupid question, but, do I need a sound card or does the midi usb cable work on its own? Thanks
Question: if I want to record the automation using the cutoff and resonance of the TD-3, how do I do that? Just enabling automation doesn't seam to work. Do I record into a audio track?
I got the td-3 to send midi, but i’m doing livesets with other hardware devices + ableton , if I press play, the td-3 starts playing its own patterns, when instead i would like it to play simply the written pattern on ableton, is there any work around?
Hi! While recording in ableton, changing the parameters on the td-3, it doesn't record those changes (for me). When playing it back it just plays the recording with the cutoff, resonance, etc. where you left it at the ending of you're recording. Anyone have any idea how to record the changes you make to the loop?
Might be a bit late, but you cannot record automation from the TD-3 into Ableton. It does react to MIDI control of the cut-off though, sent from the DAW
Im running in to an issue, the audio of the TD-3 runs over my monitors twice, once trough ableton and once from the TD to interface and monitor straight, how to fix this?
Hi, thanks for your tutorial, it really helps! Just a question..when I switch to pattern mode, the pattern still playing. Is it possible to controll it? that it will play only when I have notes in Ableton? thanks :)
Hi, could i just plug the td 3 into my mac with ableton and sound will be produced from ableton into my soundcard ? (without the use of a DIN at the back or an audio jack from the td 3)
I don’t believe so the td is not really equipped with a dedicated Soundcard via usb . You have to plug it in as the sound only comes out of the outputs . Usb is really only used for updates and setting changes.
So if you can’t record automation from the knobs then how do you add filter knob movements and etc in your recording? Do you have to do it in the daw itself?
Anyone ever find a fix for the double note playing? I'm using Ableton Light, and have been trying everything. I get audio in the midi channel, but I can't apply effects to it, i can add a audio channel but it then plays the audio channel and the midi channel and if i turn it off nothing plays. AHAHAHAHAHAH so frustrating!
I got right to the end where you have your drop box is midi to td3. Audio from ... Gives me 1/2 ,1 and 2 no input and configuration. Tried them all tried every configuration also. Still no sound hooked it up to a midi interface same thing. Looks like it's going in but there's no sound. Hours I've been trying at this stage. Any suggestions. Cheers
Hi - do you know if it is possible to record (as midi info into ableton) tweaks such as changing cutoff and resonance - so that when ableton plays back this change (eg increasing cutoff) is heard when the audio is played back...?
@@303Guy i emailed behringer and yup thats it the analogue circuitry does not yet respond to midi...was scratching my head trying to figure out how to do this!
Not sure what Im doing wrong but I cant get the sounds playing through Ableton, correct channel, MIDI as the clock, I know its playing as I can hear the pattern through my headphones attached to the TD-3, I can see yellow input bars but nothing being recorded or playing - certainly no green bars showing the beat etc - any ideas??
What about when you stop and start? In live, when I have a pattern playing from the TD3 as you do in the video, if I stop and start, the pattern will be offset or offbeat.
hello I have such a problem, I can not link my TD with any daw because when 2 programs are running, they cannot connect the synth tool and daw and I cannot use the TD correctly as a midi How to solve this problem
Can the TD-3 be used with Ableton and a USB connection only? I have followed all of the steps in this video and still can't get the sound to play in the DAW. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
the answer is NO, you need an audio cable into your computer or audio interface... and in my case I have to change the buffer settings every 10 minutes of so because Ableton is so lame
@@303Guy I downloaded Suite yesterday evening and a lot of a sudden I have a new problem. When I disable the track my Behringer is playing in, the MIDI notes in my clip keep playing, albeit with a slightly thinner sound and without the FX. Any idea how to solve this? The sound is also less thick than when I was using Standard. I suppose it's bcs of this reason.
hey man, do you have problems with the decay knob when synced with ableton? the last update seems to have solved the slide issue but created a new issue with the decay knob
@@FedericoMallaina sorry man, just seen your comment. I didnt resolve the problem, i was able to sync to abletons clock and maintain control of the decay knob but unable to use ableton to input notes in this case
Okay, so I did everything in this video but, patterns never started playing on the ableton. I see you have three connections into the TD 3, I only had the power source and the MIDI/USB cable connected into it, am I missing something?
@@303Guy hi, i don't remember what mode I was on,, most likely on pattern play. I purchased an audio interface and was able to run the td 3 into my laptop with ableton and after alot of research I was able to get audio out of the speakers connected to the interface but my issue now is I can't record on ableton.
Is it just me or when I select it as MIDI it won't play any sound? I can see the MIDI signal coming on Ableton but no sound, the volume on the TD3 is up Am I doing something wrong?
@@303Guy "External Instrument is only available in Live Suite or Standard. If using Live Intro or Lite, see step 6 instead." No worries all sorted thanks to the comment from @Hinkel Twister
@@hungarian4everr I done this in another way. go to your 303, touch "Function button", then back+write ( at the same time), all buttons will start blinking. Quickly (you have only 5 secs) touch 2 or 3. 3 if you are conecting your 303 via usb or 2 if you are conecting via midi 5 din cable.
I'm getting my TD-3's sound double up when following the instructions for the second part of the video (playing the patterns while synced). Pretty sure its to do with not being able to turn the local control off as it says in the video below though do you know how I can change this? Its fine in my headphones but not out of my speakers ua-cam.com/video/OtvfhHlYUcU/v-deo.html
Make sure Monitor is set to Auto and not In on the midi channel (External Instrument Channel). You can also change the clock source manually on the TD3, just press the Back and Write Next buttons together and then press step button number 3 which corresponds to USB. Note, you only have a few seconds before the box returns to standby mode. Hope this helps.
remember to turn your sound down before playing any further vids
I tried to go as low as I good
@@303Guy that's actually the problem haha I have to CRANK my volume to even hear the audio from the vid. So when we go to anything else it's going to redline the audio.
Subtle... ;)
thanks man
Thank you very much. Short tutorial without unnecessary bs. Just what I needed!
Thank you for your time spent learning and teaching this process! 🎧
Omg , you are my hero!!, i just bought it 3 weeks ago, and couldn't get it working in ableton, there where noten coming in bu i heard nothing, this is a True lifesaver, now i can make some Patterns😂 thank you for making this!!
Man thanks so much for making this vid. Super quiet recording unfortunately.
Loved the vid, really helpful thanks
The perfect Tutorial!! Thanks so much!
You're welcome!
Huge thanks for the walk through.
Legend!! Thanks for this man
So useful man, thanks!
Thank you very much, exactly what I needed 🙏
You’re welcome 😊
Great channel. I've learnt loads. Can the td3 pitch be controlled by external midi, in a live situation for example, or do you have to manually tune it for every track?
The problem I have when in sync mode is that in order for the TD3 to play in time you have to use a very low buffer size which is a problem as a project develops as it is inevitable the buffer will need to be increased and the td3 sync will lag. Unless I am missing something the only way around this is to record the patterns to audio early in the project which is not very inspiring and also will limit its use for adding another live pattern later in the project..
Great video! You can use the Mono Sequencer to trigger slides and accents. Just use velocity for accent and duration for slides. The longer the duration, the longer the slide. The accent threshold velocity can be set in Synth Tool.
many thanks for this tip ! the mono sequencer is from ableton ? could you elaborate on this ?
I'm looking to do slide on a pattern that I wrote on midi track in ableton, trought external instrument.
Thanks for the video. Do you connect the BEHRINGER Crave to Ableton in the same way using the Synth tool?
This is great thanks. Where did you get that sequencer from?
Hey toubplug just the usb cable or with the midi on your soundcard ? Its possible to just make the midi tonsoundcard ?
Kudos on video bro.
I have a quick q.
I’m using Ableton session view and triggering scenes. Only problem I’m encountering is the td-3 is playing for each and every scene... I just want it to be engage for one! Any ideas ?
(I’m using the sync mode as per your video - not track)
Thanks, clear video👌
Followed the first part of the video and can input notes on my daw but can’t get the TD-3 to play patterns in Logic Pro X. Any ideas anyone?
I cant get the sound of the td3 on ableton only if i put in a analog or any sound
Thanks to you I was helped.
Thanks, definitely useful
Great video man. Good to hear a Irish accent on UA-cam tutorial for a change!
Sound lad. Hope your well now
When you’re recording the accents and slides into your daw, can you program the accents and slides from the actual TD 3 itself? For some reason I’ve been hearing that you can’t and I also use logic. And how would you do the filter cutoff knobs and etc?
Hey man, really useful tutorial! Just what I was looking for how to get the patterns working in Ableton! But is there any way of recording in sync mode to MIDI? Can only seem to record the patterns into Audio! Thanks man
Try opening an audio channel and also a midi channel then recording the midi signal. There's two ways of setting up and external instrument. This video shows one but I use the other way. I can record midi from my devices. I only bought the td3 today so I'm not certain but pretty sure it'll be doable.
the software is now called SynthTribe, could be useful
THANK YOU
Can you use mic input behind the computer for audio in?
any chance you could update this with better sound?
ty
Worth adding too, that I'm finding the td-3 a little thin and plasticky sounding. It just doesn't have the balls, guts, and depth of the 303, or TB-3 sadly.
And suffers from the same unintuitive note inputting, and other functions, and sort of gets in the way of any real-time idea flows (which was an issue with the original 303). Whereas with TB-3 you're straight in with real-time playing, key changes, or voice changes.
Though, to be fair, at the price they're sold at, behringer have done really well in making it fairly accessible to most folk's pay packet.
Also, the casing feels a bit light and cheap, and I'm unsure it will survive long "on the road"
thank bro u saved me !!!!
This worked for logic thanks. my question is how would you get your DAW to record the automation for the cutoff, resonance, envelope, and decay knobs when jamming on the TD 3?
It is unlikely that the automation using cc number in Ableton can be achieved for the Behringer TD-3, as the device does not support cc parameters. However, it may be possible to utilize a USB modular output and connect it to the 303, allowing for control through the patch bay. But even that is limited
How did you do it for logic? Still trying to figure it out
Can anyone tell me if they are getting this when they try to open the Synthtribe V2.5.7 folder "
Hey mate! Thanks for the video. I do everything like you but I can’t male sounds. I select the output ch 1 but it doesnt make any sound at all
yeah im also having the same problem as well
Thanks for the tutorial! You said you have your td3 connected to your sound card on channel 3. This might be stupid question, but, do I need a sound card or does the midi usb cable work on its own? Thanks
The USB cannot be used for audio.
YESS THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Question: if I want to record the automation using the cutoff and resonance of the TD-3, how do I do that? Just enabling automation doesn't seam to work. Do I record into a audio track?
You cannot record automation with the td 3
did anyone else nearly have a heart attack when the next video came on because of how high the volume was lol
Ha ha ha point taken
How do I let it change patterns from Ableton?
Any idea why mine only works on internal?
soo, usb is not enough? i have to also output via jack?
what happens if the midi then stops all of abletons other sounds?
Hey thanks that helped alot
I got the td-3 to send midi, but i’m doing livesets with other hardware devices + ableton , if I press play, the td-3 starts playing its own patterns, when instead i would like it to play simply the written pattern on ableton, is there any work around?
Yeah it's possible you need to send the midi from Ableton into the TD 3
Thank you my man
Hi! While recording in ableton, changing the parameters on the td-3, it doesn't record those changes (for me). When playing it back it just plays the recording with the cutoff, resonance, etc. where you left it at the ending of you're recording. Anyone have any idea how to record the changes you make to the loop?
hey did you figure this out?
Might be a bit late, but you cannot record automation from the TD-3 into Ableton. It does react to MIDI control of the cut-off though, sent from the DAW
Im running in to an issue, the audio of the TD-3 runs over my monitors twice, once trough ableton and once from the TD to interface and monitor straight, how to fix this?
hi, i have a akai midi keyboard. it will be possible to use the both on ableton? akai midi keyboard and behringer td-3?? thanks
Yes you can!
Hi, thanks for your tutorial, it really helps! Just a question..when I switch to pattern mode, the pattern still playing. Is it possible to controll it? that it will play only when I have notes in Ableton? thanks :)
iv got same thing, did you work it out
@@andrewgrimshaw4663 I think this is possible with Synth Tribe, but I'm not completely sure if and how this works.
Hi, could i just plug the td 3 into my mac with ableton and sound will be produced from ableton into my soundcard ?
(without the use of a DIN at the back or an audio jack from the td 3)
I don’t believe so the td is not really equipped with a dedicated Soundcard via usb . You have to plug it in as the sound only comes out of the outputs . Usb is really only used for updates and setting changes.
Mark DB would the CV gate outs work on an MPC X ?
To make slides you can overlap midi notes in the piano roll ;) thanks!
Good tip!
@@303Guy just learning the TD-3 myself. Good luck and good vibes🤘
To make accents you have to put the velocity of the note on 97 or higher!
thanks Jason (and Mark B!). How do I add accents in piano roll?
What about accents? Does this apply to logic as well?
So if you can’t record automation from the knobs then how do you add filter knob movements and etc in your recording? Do you have to do it in the daw itself?
you can just record the audio while turning knobs
anyone know what I need to do to save modulation into ableton are do I just have to do it live and save audio thanks
I don't think you can modulate the td-3
Anyone ever find a fix for the double note playing? I'm using Ableton Light, and have been trying everything. I get audio in the midi channel, but I can't apply effects to it, i can add a audio channel but it then plays the audio channel and the midi channel and if i turn it off nothing plays. AHAHAHAHAHAH so frustrating!
I got right to the end where you have your drop box is midi to td3. Audio from ... Gives me 1/2 ,1 and 2 no input and configuration. Tried them all tried every configuration also. Still no sound hooked it up to a midi interface same thing. Looks like it's going in but there's no sound. Hours I've been trying at this stage. Any suggestions. Cheers
I have the same problem, have you found a solution yet?
I have this problem too please lmk if you solved it
Thanks mate!
Hi - do you know if it is possible to record (as midi info into ableton) tweaks such as changing cutoff and resonance - so that when ableton plays back this change (eg increasing cutoff) is heard when the audio is played back...?
I believe u can only send notes to the 303 not any adjustments
@@303Guy i emailed behringer and yup thats it the analogue circuitry does not yet respond to midi...was scratching my head trying to figure out how to do this!
How are you able to do filter cutoffs then in the daw since it won’t work with the knobs?
If you do this does the 303 keep its originals patterns right
yeah of course. the 303 is not recording midi in just playing back
Can I Ask a dumb question ? But is the output of the td3 connected to something or can I send the audio of the td3 by the usb cable ?
You need an Audio Card to put the TD-3 into ableton. USB is more for controlling the midi function or Updating the unit
Not sure what Im doing wrong but I cant get the sounds playing through Ableton, correct channel, MIDI as the clock, I know its playing as I can hear the pattern through my headphones attached to the TD-3, I can see yellow input bars but nothing being recorded or playing - certainly no green bars showing the beat etc - any ideas??
I have the same problem, have you found a solution yet?
What about when you stop and start? In live, when I have a pattern playing from the TD3 as you do in the video, if I stop and start, the pattern will be offset or offbeat.
This has to do with latency of the midi. You can edit your latency settings at preferences > audio
@@Technotuesday96 turns out I had to switch from pattern to song...I don't have it handy but one of the combinations makes it work.
THANK YOU SO MUCH
this is a geat vid, but im still struggling to set up my TD-3 in ableton 11 lite... is it possible? ..... any help would be great
any luck with this??
you are the GOAT
🐏
Thank you!
Can you control Filter cutoff etc over midi? Thanks
did you find out? been trying to figure this out.
No
No, they're analogue
thank you!
hello I have such a problem, I can not link my TD with any daw because when 2 programs are running, they cannot connect the synth tool and daw and I cannot use the TD correctly as a midi How to solve this problem
Yes this is an issue you cannot run both programs at the same time
You could describe how you are connecting the audio to your computer,, what output on the TD-3? What cable? r you using an audio interface?
Use the headphone output (small jack plug) to line in of your external sound device (big jack plug)
@@Remko_toch why use "phones" 3,5mm output instead of "output" big jack output?
@@Remko_toch sooo, do i have to have external sound device? Can't i plug it into my integrated(on mobo) soundcard?
can i set up my td 3 with ableton lite????
I'm sure you can but you may not have access to the instruments i use in this video
Can the TD-3 be used with Ableton and a USB connection only? I have followed all of the steps in this video and still can't get the sound to play in the DAW. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Unfortunately not I had to use a external Soundcard
the answer is NO, you need an audio cable into your computer or audio interface... and in my case I have to change the buffer settings every 10 minutes of so because Ableton is so lame
@@YoungNino2017 Unfortunate, but thank you.
To where have you put the audio output?
Into a mixer or speaker depending on what cable you are using
Cool. Thanks man!
No problem!
@@303Guy I downloaded Suite yesterday evening and a lot of a sudden I have a new problem. When I disable the track my Behringer is playing in, the MIDI notes in my clip keep playing, albeit with a slightly thinner sound and without the FX. Any idea how to solve this? The sound is also less thick than when I was using Standard. I suppose it's bcs of this reason.
@@maximepirard6171 could be your sample rate hat are you using to put your audio into ableton
@@303Guy Hm no the notes keep playing no matter the sample rate. Even when the MIDI track is disactivated...
HOW DO YOU RECORD IT ?
I dont have the external Instrument what can I do know?
You should be able to use the piano roll in Ableton the external instrument is not needed
Do you know of any sites for patterns/sequences? I just got mine yesterday in red
Yeah I was thinking of uploading some but haven’t started yet.
@@303Guy its still new and there's a nitche that is missing from this model or its in Italian lol
hey man, do you have problems with the decay knob when synced with ableton? the last update seems to have solved the slide issue but created a new issue with the decay knob
I have the same problems. Could you resolve it?
@@FedericoMallaina sorry man, just seen your comment. I didnt resolve the problem, i was able to sync to abletons clock and maintain control of the decay knob but unable to use ableton to input notes in this case
@@nurseflamingo100 the decay knob is a literal analog knob. It chances the analog circuit of the TD-3 and is not digitally controllable
The problem for me is that when syncing with ableton the decay knob on the actual hardware becomes un useable, it has no effect of the filter envelope
Thanks!!!
Okay, so I did everything in this video but, patterns never started playing on the ableton. I see you have three connections into the TD 3, I only had the power source and the MIDI/USB cable connected into it, am I missing something?
What mode are you in on the TD3 ?
@@303Guy hi, i don't remember what mode I was on,, most likely on pattern play. I purchased an audio interface and was able to run the td 3 into my laptop with ableton and after alot of research I was able to get audio out of the speakers connected to the interface but my issue now is I can't record on ableton.
i dont find mono sequencer's option . need help :(
Monosequencer is in max msp
❤ thanks 🙏
Ive followed this through a few times and I get no sound coming through. Any idea why?
i have the same problem, have you found a solution yet?
I have this problem too please lmk if you solved it
I went to site but it says no downloads for the TD3 TD-3
It’s there Man U gotta keep looking
Midi output doesnt see td-3. Help
kt is necessary to have an interface with midi ? :(
You can just us the usb
Is it just me or when I select it as MIDI it won't play any sound? I can see the MIDI signal coming on Ableton but no sound, the volume on the TD3 is up
Am I doing something wrong?
Have u updated and set the correct midi channel
do you know, how to fix this? Firstly use this and have the same problem
thnx!!!
thanks!
How do you put accents on notes?
got it, ur notes are accented if the velocity is 97 or higher!
Hi there have you figure out the slide?
Noob question here.... I dont have the 'external instruments'.... is there a way to add it?
Hmmm I’m sure you can add through a ableton midi channel
I used this: help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209774265-How-to-use-hardware-synthesizers-with-Live, step number 6
@@303Guy "External Instrument is only available in Live Suite or Standard. If using Live Intro or Lite, see step 6 instead."
No worries all sorted thanks to the comment from @Hinkel Twister
@@hinkeltwister7311 thanks man
no matter what I do I can't get sound coming out,
any solution?
@@hungarian4everr I done this in another way. go to your 303, touch "Function button", then back+write ( at the same time), all buttons will start blinking. Quickly (you have only 5 secs) touch 2 or 3. 3 if you are conecting your 303 via usb or 2 if you are conecting via midi 5 din cable.
thanks
Your welcome
Gold 🥰😇
Can u send me a download to ur Mono Sequencer.amxd
Tnxxxxxxx
Like how the 303 starts at 3:03 lol
👊🏼
I'm getting my TD-3's sound double up when following the instructions for the second part of the video (playing the patterns while synced). Pretty sure its to do with not being able to turn the local control off as it says in the video below though do you know how I can change this? Its fine in my headphones but not out of my speakers
ua-cam.com/video/OtvfhHlYUcU/v-deo.html
Having the same problem myself here :(
@@deehenry267 let us know here if you figure out how to fix it (same goes for anyone else). I'll do the same thing to help you out if I do :)
@@mick_nu Sure man, it's so annoying, it was doing it on my roland tb3 touch too that's why I bought this and am having the same issue :(
Make sure Monitor is set to Auto and not In on the midi channel (External Instrument Channel). You can also change the clock source manually on the TD3, just press the Back and Write Next buttons together and then press step button number 3 which corresponds to USB. Note, you only have a few seconds before the box returns to standby mode. Hope this helps.
Please tell me this thing stays in sync. I had to sell a TR-09 because it was impossible to keep in sync in Ableton.
It syncs perfect to my hardware and pc but each pc can have different issues like latency or sound card.
Why would people dislike a video, that does exactly what it says it does?
im going to dislike this comment
@@Miquitzli
I’ve liked yours, so that even things out.