Morality Remains the MOST Persuasive Argument for GOD! (ft. Dave Baggett) | EP 85

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @MrDaktor
    @MrDaktor 7 місяців тому +1

    What is your evidence that there are objective morals? If you can prove they exist, what is your evidence that the Christian god is the entity that establishes those morals?

    • @davidbaggett6005
      @davidbaggett6005 7 місяців тому +1

      These are big questions! I have a forthcoming book in favor of moral realism. And most of my moral arguments push to God but not to a Christian God, but I mentioned here a few reasons to think there's at least some evidence to suggest a Christian God is the better explanation. But these questions require book-length treatments, so if you really want to know my answers, I'd suggest the books I've written on the topic.

    • @KasperKatje
      @KasperKatje 7 місяців тому

      ​@@davidbaggett6005So you make a distinction between the OT god and the NT god?

    • @davidbaggett6005
      @davidbaggett6005 7 місяців тому

      @@KasperKatje Well, not really. As a Christian I think the OT God and the NT God are the same. The NT, to my thinking, reveals more about God; but God himself doesn't change between the testaments in my view. But most of my work just pertains to God per se; I don't usually explicitly push the moral argument all the way to Christianity, though I do think there are ways this can be done, and I think there's good cutting-edge work to be done in that area.

    • @KasperKatje
      @KasperKatje 7 місяців тому

      ​@@davidbaggett6005Thanks for clearing that up.
      I was a bit distracted by the bad quality of the audio and subtitles and the heavy use of terminology surrounding arguments so I might have missed your pov on the moral argument introduced at the start of the interview.
      I will try to listen again in the near future

    • @davidbaggett6005
      @davidbaggett6005 6 місяців тому

      @@KasperKatje I think the quality of the audio gradually improves as it goes along.

  • @davidbaggett6005
    @davidbaggett6005 7 місяців тому +1

    I'd quibble with the title of this talk, by the way. I actually suggest that we not make such claims--the moral argument is the most persuasive argument for God. No. I know it might attract viewers, but I think it's a mistake. What's most persuasive varies according to audiences. Not much rides on this matter anyway. I'd suggest tone it down.

    • @saftapologetics
      @saftapologetics  7 місяців тому

      The title is from the perspective of the host. We realise that not everyone finds the argument to be persuasive. However, in your conversation you reference Dr Craig's remark about the mass appeal the argument has on university campuses. And the final point being what Jacob mentioned in the interaction: almost all objections raised about God are moral objections.
      We felt the clarification to be necessary as we have a strong policy against click-bait. But legit-bait titles are true to the content and works well with the algorithm too.

    • @davidbaggett6005
      @davidbaggett6005 7 місяців тому +1

      @@saftapologetics I hear ya, thanks. Just wanted to register my reservation. But your logic sounds solid. Appreciate the reply.

    • @saftapologetics
      @saftapologetics  6 місяців тому

      We appreciate you raising this concern as well Prof Baggett.
      - Jacob

    • @trumpbellend6717
      @trumpbellend6717 4 місяці тому

      ​@@saftapologetics
      Morality does not require a "God" and is subjective by definition