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@@avinashsanil8165 no need to respond intelligently to a clown

@@avinashsanil8165 no need replying seriously to a clown

based on fraud?? Christianity is started by Jews not by dumb people like you, and Bible is written by Jews and TORAH(first five books of the Bible) are older than your mythical books bagavatgita, ramayana and many other books... its your false gods who are frauds and womanizers.

I agree. Holy Spirit add people to church, as is seen in Acts. Also at one point, HolySpirit forbade the disciples to go to Asia. At another time, the apostle was shown to go to Macedonia. So, we should refrain or go to other places according to the guidance of HolySpirit imo. However the Protestant ideology is to go wherever they can, and preach all over the place. Are they listening to Holyspirit forbading them to go to certain places? If they did, they wouldn’t have judged the traditional churches.

@@johngeevarghese1354 Well said. The primary reason for Christianity not spreading in India was that it got polluted by the local cultural and religious beliefs such as caste system. Also, this thinking initiated the idea that if you were born into a Christian household you are a Christian which is not biblically supported.. and also there was no commitment towards reaching the lost outside of their caste groups. To make things worse..when the evangelicals finally started reaching the lost in Kerala, a bishop from Kerala was so offended by this church growth that he started implying that the lower castes are just converting because they are receiving food and money.. ans he coined this extremely derogatory term called "rice Christians" which is now ironically being used against these so-called "high caste" Christians as well

You could be true, but there is some history of several documents (including ancient manuscripts) being burnt by Tipu Sultan

@@Luvallo That will not explain why Christianity did not spread out of Kerala for nearly 1600 years. Even now you can see that the traditional churches in Kerala are not evangelistic

I don’t think we should judge them. If you noticed, Christianity is highest in South and north east India, where there were Jewish settlements in highest concentrate, as Christianity came to India because of the Jews. And people there readily believed in the messiah Jesus. And, it’s not required to convert all people, as is seen in acts, the HolySpirit forbade disciple to go to Asia, and Lord Jesus had said if anyone do not receive you, dust off your feet and leave the place, for they would later face judgement. The kind of rage the Hindu nationalists shows to Christianity, one must think about it and leave them to judgement day. Let God be the judge. So in my opinion, what the South Indians did was right. Preach gospel to those who are accepting, who are enquirers of the faith. Holy Spirit will add them to church as it is seen in Acts.

Kerala had Persian immigrants who spoke Aramaic which probably answers why there was no translation of texts to the regional language.

This is a lie. It never happened

@@raivolution What? Please explain.

@@raivolution then say the truth

@@godislove7605 there is no proof. It's all fake.

in first century??

🤣😂 wah! U seem to be very knowledgeable

Bro got graduation from Madrasa University

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Parasuramas axe is yet to be unearthed !

⁠Same as Jesus’s cross. That’s all…!

@@Anonymous-io6dj So, both jesus cross and Parasurams axe are imaginary ?

Parasuraman’s axe is at least a Myth. Because it is culturally significant. Jesus’s cross is utter nonsense.

@@Anonymous-io6dj Jesuss cross does not affect indias real history , but the lie story sanskrit scriptures dop ! Are you ready for a healthy discussion in this regard ?

Thomas didn't want to come to India , It was the Lord Jesus Christ who told him to come here and preach the message, as written in the Gospel of Thomas.

Please check the Indian missionary history before making such false comments "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek” Romans 1:16 But Jesus said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” / “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.” Then Jesus said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.” Matthew‬ 15‬:24‬, 26‬, 28‬ NKJV‬‬ “And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.” John‬ 10‬:16‬ NKJV‬‬ ““I, the Lord, have called You in righteousness, And will hold Your hand; I will keep You and give You as a covenant to the people, As a light to the Gentiles,” Isaiah‬ 42‬:6‬ NKJV‬‬ “For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, And deep darkness the people; But the Lord will arise over you, And His glory will be seen upon you. The Gentiles shall come to your light, And kings to the brightness of your rising.”

@@NiviWord Gospel of Thomas is not even part of the Bible. Holy Spirit led them where the Apostles should go. Please don't be deceived.

@@andthetruthshallsetyoufree3618 What are you even trying to say? Read the Bible first and understand what the Word means. Not cherry picking Bible verses.

You have no clue about what youre talking about.

@@binsonthomas2158 what exactly did i get wrong?

Which orthodox church preaches that being born into a christian family assures you of salvation as a matter of doctrine?

@@Luvallo Almost all of the traditional churches will baptise you as a baby - the assumption being that the baby is a Christian and that this will take the child to heaven. What does that imply?

@@pkphilips2 That is your assumption. Lord Jesus said to let little children come to me, and do not hinder them for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven. When parents brought their children to Lord Jesus, did those children or infants believed in Jesus? Why are you hindering little children from the kingdom of heaven?

@@NiviWord this is called cultural invasion. How middle eastern fairy tale was used to influence indian sub continent.

@digitalbath6057 What do you mean???? If you can't explain your comment, then why write it? Fairy tale means something that is made out of imagination. Now can you please elaborate the imagination brought from the Middle East ? By the way, India as a country was born just 75 years ago , before that every state was a different country with its own rich heritage and culture. Every state is unique and it's better not to indulge in mud slinging and hatred. We and the other south Indian states including the North-East have fought bravely with the British because our people were united unlike the north Indian states where the British could do divide and rule policy because people were not united and always indulged in back-stabbing and attacking each other leading the British to take advantage of it.

Maybe Saint Thomas did know Malayalam because the Holy Spirit descended on them giving them the gift of tongues.

the early church in Kerala before the advent of modern day Orthodox and catholic rites was considered as a "Judaised" and "heretical" form of Christianity as per the Portuguese...many Portuguese writer even concluded that they don't worship icons or statues...I'd say they were Iconoclasts in general which was at that time viewed as heresy by both the see of Rome and Constantinople..... And sorry pal The image of cherubims aren't equal to Creating image of God the Jews may have created the image of angels and cherubims but they never created an image for God or venerated it as it's written .. *You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below* Exodus 20:4

@@ChrisElias5002 Orthodox and Roman Catholics do have images and statues but in no way are they venerated. It’s like having a picture of parents who have passed away and a candle placed there as remembrance.

@@ChrisElias5002 Jesus has left us an image of Himself on the Shroud he was wrapped in in the tomb.

@@ChrisElias5002 The portuguese were catholics and the catholics have always made elaborate churches with icons or statues in it so what you are saying doesn't match with the thing called heretical judaism. It has to be something else. The jews might have never created the image of God but they do have a tradition of extensively decorating their temple even the doors were decorated with the carved angelic beings, flowers, palm trees in Solomons temple, 1 Kings 6:32 and other places inside the temple too were elaborately decorated. So, it means that God loves beauty inside his temple/church. However, in the New Testament we know that Paul says," Christ is the visible image of invisible God., Colossians 1:15" Since many people had seen Jesus and He was such an iconic figure many drew Him while He was living and after He was no longer there. Since Jesus is son of God so in that sense there is no problem in putting up that image of Christ and also respecting that image. Therefore, to decorate a church with the pictures of Jesus washing the feet of disciples, Jesus forgiving an adulterous woman is no problem and should be encouraged so that people can emulate their God Jesus Christ.

@@darapdiengdoh2179 what ever people state does not turn out to be truth 😊 Keeping science aside and stating from one book does not scientifically prove anything. Humans evolved over many life forms and that is proven. It took eons for humans to be in the state they are now. I do not write off Cosmic power totally and my belief is that it is universal mind beyond comprehension of one book.

Because we don't need some middle eastern political bs.

@arpanapalle5556 in just one breadth, you ended up judging multiple generations, without living with them, not knowing what hardships they faced, etc. Hope you could adopt humility and humbleness.

@@digitalbath6057 Even Hinduism is from that same region. The earliest sanskrit writings are from the Hittites

@@pkphilips2 there is a reason why Saraswati is called goddess of knowledge, there is reason Sanskrit is more common while rest of the region have their variation. But slaves will parrot the master's command. Also, I never said Jesus wasn't Jew, Christianity is roman propaganda. I have already commented the same but my comment gets deleted.

@@digitalbath6057 What does Sanskrit's popularity have to do with the fact that the oldest Sanskrit writings were from around Turkey? How is Christianity Roman propaganda?

To add to what you said… Saint Thomas converted a few Indians to Christianity. Those Indians were not Jews. Recorded data suggests Sankarapuri, Pakalomattam, Kalli and Kaliyankal Brahmin families. They were called Nasranis. They kept contact with church headed by St. Peter, the one in Rome and one in Antioch. Relationship with Antioch continued as it was closer, for 1500 years. When Portuguese arrived, the Indian Christians got exposed to the great East-West schism. Similar split mirrored on our side. Roman Catholics introduced Latin Catholicism. A section of Christian’s in India opposed to latinization and to Catholic principles and they are part of the oriental orthodox churches. The ones that opposed to latinization but wanted to preserve catholicity and their East Syriac liturgy, became the largest denomination, Syro Malabar Catholics. The new people that were converted by Portuguese were Latin Catholics. In 20th century, a group that was part of Orthodox moved to Catholic side, with their West Syriac liturgy and they are Syro Malankara Catholics. Orthodox side too had seen similar divisions in the last 500 years. In the later period, we began to see British introducing Anglican Protestantism in the 19th century and American and Australian missionaries introducing other forms of Protestantism after India’s independence.

@@SmokedChips But all these explanations do not answer why this did not spread across the land or atleast in peininsular region which now includes Andhra Taamilnad Keral and Kaarnataka. These early Christians kept Christ to themselves like what Jesus said putting the light under bushel. If these people did their job of spreading the gospel today Christianity in India would not have been associated with western missionaries.

@@arpanapalle5556 True. In fact, upon my research, I came up with 2 factors. 1. A persecuted church always grew. Christianity was not persecuted in Kerala. Society was generally harmonious for centuries under Cheras and later dynasties. 2. Church itself spent its resources within the Christian society to strengthen. Western Christianity expanded with a military force in its side. Since the Christians in Kerala have no intention to go to war to preach, expansion is limited. Additionally, the church was isolated. I think this is the only church started by one of the disciples of Jesus, which is not a patriarchate. And yet, masses were conducted in Aramaic until 1965.

Why Christianity didn’t spread like it did in Europe? Let me explain. There’s two ways Christianity spread. One because of the population growth and second by force. That’s how Greece, Rome and Latin America became Christian territories. That did not happen in Asia or in Africa. Ethiopia and Alexandria was Christian for as long as any other communities. They did not force it on others like it happened in Europe. The colonisers were already Christians when they reached new colonies. Is converting by force Christian? You tell me!

@@SmokedChips The notion the persecuted church always grew is wrong. Look at our mother church, the church of east. It fell from being the church that covered all of Asia to just parts of Middle East and just Kerala. Look at what happened to Orthodox Church. They were driven out from their territories back to Greece. The centre of Christianity for over a 1000 years was not Rome but Constantinople. We all know what happened to Hagia Sophia. Rome became the centre of Christianity because of the fall of Constantinople and because they forcefully converted people from other religions. Ever heard of inquisitions? Roman Catholic Church have a history of inquisitions wherever they went. Starting from Roman inquisitions to Latin American Inquisitions to Goan inquisition to Philippines. The list never ends! Secondly, The Christiana in Kerala always were powerful and rich. We had our own army to protect our interests. You can check records. In fact we carried weapons until recently. You can see that people who migrated to Idukki and Waynad carried this tradition till recently. Always had a dagger with them. And churches had Aayudhappura aka armoury in front of them. And our language was Syriac. Even when people started talking in Malayalam, the Christian’s wrote it in Syriac. This method was called Karshon.

What do u mean?

@@anoopmathen4566 There is no Aryan invasion.

@@alugulapati1 what led u to conclude that

@@alugulapati1 Linguistic analysis, mitochondrial dna analysis, all suggest otherwise. There are political undertones for invasion versus migration. Every recent analysis in one of the videos on this, very same topic, concludes that it is an invasion. After the migration, the female DNA changed to the incoming aryans. And the aryan women’s DNA didn’t pass down. Which meant that a large group of men, without their women traveled to India and settled there.

@@SmokedChips There is a lot of research in recent times and it proves otherwise. Anyways we need people who go up the stream as far as thinking is concerned.

That is how everywhere, but once proclaimed to the Jews they didn't stop. They went on to preach Gospel to other people too.

Jews first Gentiles then, that’s what Christ told them

Jew to Gentiles that is us..Now that it preched so it's up to to you and me to choose. When we accept Christ we no longer jew,Gentiles,Greeks rich,poor,low high,slave and free and we no longer difference but the same to God we become his. childrens,he call us his own.

@@krishnaswami3362 That’s a flawed analogy. St Thomas didn’t come for Jews. If that’s true, he would have gone to Jewish centres before coming to India as well. He went to Assyria, Persia before and evangelised gentiles before coming to India.The legend is that he evangelised local population aka Hindus and moved on to south eastern India. This claim is not questioned by the Hindus either. Also according to Kochinjews, the oldest Jewish community in India, they themselves came here in Ad 50s. So??

Bro st Thomas came to the place to spread the word of god not for the Jews. He was killed by the Hindu Brahmins.

Proud of what? Bowing to white?

Good Brother don’t mind this low iq dog @digitalbath6057 s

Better than bowing to a penis 😂​@@digitalbath6057

what has that to do with white? Christianity is a middle eastern religion Has nothing to do with west ​@@digitalbath6057

@@digitalbath6057why do you use English? Why do you even use internet and UA-cam? Why do you study foreign knowledge, science and use inventions of the “whites”? Hypocrisy at the finest.

And everything is attributed to the Reformation, sorry, Deformation. 50% of British and Dutch efforts in India and Sri Lanka were not to convert anyone but to make money and pervert Catholics and others who already believed in Christ. Their own histories devote more chapters to bragging about how they 'defeated Romanism and papism'.

I would call it "setting things in order by exercising apostolic authority"...!!!

​@@michaelaratnam6517Is St Thomas not an apostle?

@@sciencescholar3440 he was an apostle who would have admonished his people if they did not obey the chair of Peter!!!

@@michaelaratnam6517 There goes the problem... Moses is not there...but someone sitting in the chair of Moses must be obeyed like God🤣

@@sciencescholar3440someone sitting in Moses's chair should be obeyed like Moses... That's what Jesus himself says...!!!

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