He got out of the car, and she told him to get back in. That says it all. She is vile, and she can live her adult life but because of her actions, Conrad can't.
@@cutdogslim find some weak-minded person to abused and it's not your fault says everything about your mentality and with that attitude yeah better hope and pray the universe doesn't send somebody stronger than you to help you with your own demise
I don’t know if Conrad would be here today but he’s not here today because she told him to get back in,that to me is murder she should’ve got life in my opinion😡
@@aristakatz if you watch the documentary “I love you, now die”, which is all about the trial and shows a lot of evidence. It’s really clear that her primary motive was to get attention and sympathy from friends
The Aunt that said she was angry with Conrad for committing suicide and he’s only a victim after reading the texts….. that’s so unbelievably sad. It gives a little insight to his family situation. He clearly had no support there. People who commit suicide are still victims. Victims of their own mind, trauma and sometimes- life situations.
The Aunt was mad at first that is a normal feeling toward a loved one that kill’s themselves. Then after she learns about little twit Michelle Carter she is not mad she is heart broken.
I have had a friend do this and I was angry with him for a little while. Everyone is different I mean it can be normal in some cases. I don’t feel his father was abusive I think he took a swing at dad and dad Swamy back. If I were to hit either of my parents as a kid it would not be something I would soon forget. His parents loved him they did not see how he was feeling he made Michelle promise to not tell anyone. Infact he told her he would hate her if she told anyone. She should have not kept his secret and certainly should have never encouraged him! As a parent there are times my kids are going through something I have no clue how they are feeling until later if they choose to tell me. Kids hide things and that is what CoCo did with his parents.
My soul sister committed suicide in 2020... I wish everyday she would have called me. To see this little girl talked someone into killing themselves is beyond comprehensible. Disgusting
@@zdelrod829 Sylvia (OP) can speak for herself. If that’s not info she feels like sharing then she won’t share it. She doesn’t need some random person online vetting her questions for her.
I’ll never get over how he changed his mind and she coerced him back into it. No matter how many angels tried to save this poor boys life the demon inside Michelle was relentless in its pursuit. RIP Conrad.
She could’ve told him to NOT get back in there but she did the opposite. How sad. She could’ve saved him or even maybe as simply not saying anything that would’ve been enough for him to not get back in the truck.
@@Flower13022 She didn't want to save him. She would go on to harm and manipulate others if she hadn't got called out. She is just going to try and be careful next time she victimizes someone.
Shut up about the angels. She didn't kill him. He killed himself. I bet you didn't know he attempted suicide multiple times before they even met, did you?
One thing I find interesting about this is michelle told him to delete all her texts before he killed himself but he did the exact opposite. He deleted everyone else's texts except Michelle's
I believe that’s because the mind is not in the right state when you’re suicidal, but it’s also not stupid. He may have made his decision into committing suicide but wasn’t 100% committed, until his GIRLFRIEND convinced him to do it. I feel he had a wow moment where he couldn’t believe his own girlfriend thought he should indeed kill himself. Although he could unfortunately end his life without anyone pressuring him in the moment, he knew how disgusting and evil his girlfriend was for convincing him to pursue it rather than saying don’t; and for that he left those texts so she can be held accountable - it’s as if saying “yeah I don’t want to be here anymore, but that fact my girlfriend does too, yeah I’ll do it, but she should be held accountable” and that drew him more into his suicidal mind where your brain tells you lies “you’re not worthy, do it, you’d do everyone a favor, you’re a nuisance, etc” and unfortunately, he did it.
@@leolldankology obviously but it peaked detectives interest seeing he only had texts from here. They did recover what he deleted but if he had never deleted all those texts besides hers she probably would have gotten away with it
It's horrible to hear about kids commiting suicide because of bullying. But to hear about a young man coaxed into it by his girlfriend? Why would she do that? She needs to be in some type of institution!!! Locked away so she can't do this again...
She was in an institution up until a few weeks before his death. She was discharged by McLean Hospital and sent back into society where she clearly didn’t belong. In turn, this cost Conrad his life. So tragic.
Same thing happened with her and the penal system. This won't be the last time she does something like this unless she gets serious long term psychotherapy. God help her children when she has them if she doesn't get help.
@@tiptoe38 I’m sorry! 🧏♂️What the phuq is you peoples problem with human life? Whether one day or no day, he could have gotten help from his family had they known. His gf needs to be charge and you need to follow her also. PLEASE! I don’t want my children to have friends like you,{EVER}
I agree. I read hundreds of her texts and they were disturbing to say the least. Even though she is out of jail, I imagine her life will be difficult because of her infamy. Shame on her!!
Yeah I know a lot of people are screaming about free speech but it's not like she sent one message or two supporting the idea that he end his life there's just hundreds of when are you going to do it when are you going to do it when are you going to do it why not today why not today that kind of s*** like a cheerleader just disgusting psychopath
EVIL!!! Pure evil … people need to quit looking at a pretty young woman. She is evil. She will do this again. Too much pay off and excitement for her. Power.
@@makenziebrown3649 That's completely right. I just don't get why many people comment on this case saying Michelle forced Conrad to do anything. She didn't point a gun at his head or threaten his family and say "get back in the truck". Like you said, he was sick and suicidal at the time. He very well could have walked away and still be alive if not for Michelle's influence.
@@makenziebrown3649 Let me tell you: I've been suicidal many times in my life, and came very close to doing it many times. If I had a Michelle who encouraged me to follow through, I could be dead right now. It was a sick and evil thing she did for sure.
@@larisa7547 I sure was and I knew some shitty people, but I don’t remember anyone who would’ve actually wanted someone to die and convinced them to do it, esp when they were wanting to back out and not do it.
@@kaseysewick1691 I saw it a while ago so I can't remember the details around it but I implore you to watch the doc... I'm not saying she wasn't an effed up individual at times in this situation but my strong stance on her was softened
@@Guitarlvr01 Speech isn’t a crime but when he got out of the car she told him to get back in and finish it. She should be held accountable for her actions and not just be able to walk away.
@@Guitarlvr01 if she didn't tell him to get back in the truck he would still be alive today.. thats coercion. and she practically begged him to get in that truck. they spoke on the phone for 40 minutes while he was dying, she was probably wanting to make sure the job was done so she stayed on the phone til he was no longer breathing. Bullying is a crime. Threatening someone is a crime. Words can kill
she was completely deluded, its insane (no pun intended). like she didnt need to send these texts. no one was gonna see them. but i think she built up this lie so much that she began to believe it a little bit. she thought she genuinely loved him.
He was suicidal before her. He would've done it eventually even if she wasn't in his life. She isn't to blame. Words can't kill. If you want to blame someone, blame him.
@@princelips3980 Well I saw the texting and other evidence during the time that this happened . She is to blame. Dr. Kevorkian was just as guilty for his assistance with suicides. He was not going to commit suicide but she kept pushing him.
In most circumstances everyone’s first thought is to get this person help and do your best to not let them go through with trying to hurt themselves. Idk what is wrong with her but only psychopaths think like she does!
Exactly, Conrad reached out to her at the worst moment of his life, the moment he wanted to end it, and she told him to get back in the car! I'm sure his family wish he had reached out to anyone but her.
She's a woman, and so ofcourse she's a psychopath. As men, we just expect women to be conceited, narcissistic, and psychopathic. We have known enough women to know, it's extremely rare to find one who isn't. You're more likely to find a 10 million dollar diamond in your dog's crap.
@Chime In I feel for your brother. 😞 When you lose the will to live you just want out. please don’t let him know the way you feel or he’ll just want to die more. He probably feels like a burden to you and your family
@@summermackay7924 wish it didn’t matter but there are definitely people who have sympathy over her than him just cause she’s female, this is coming from a girl btw
People who constantly and secretly threaten suicide to one person in order to keep that individual near, feeling responsible and constantly on call ARE the abusers. Threatening suicide to maintain a relationship is a DEADLY MANIPULATION and the victim is the person guilty into "Saving the other person or letting them die" she was broken, tired and wanted relief from his fake grief. The guy died because she no longer fell for his lies and he was certain she would, every time he demanded it of her.
@@bluecube7247 except it WASNT a lie. If it was, he would still be alive. Obviously their relationship was toxic. But it seems Michelle could be even more manipulative and emotionally abusive as he "was".
Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to bully someone into killing themselves Just like Freedom to bear arms doesn't give you the right to use it to murder someone
Well not according to the Law. Realistically she wasn't supposed to be charged due to the gray area of Assisting Suicide in that state. The case was catching attention so they went for Manslaughter and it worked.
He is the one who ultimately made the decision after being suicidal for years. Even before he met her. What she did was reprehensible, but ultimately she isn't to blame. This, was his decision after years of feeling this way. No one else's
@@princelips3980 That’s your opinion, but it’s not the truth. He had changed his mind about it & got out of the truck & SHE opened her yap & convinced a (weak-minded, sick) individual to get back in the truck & do it! If she had kept her mouth shut, he would still be alive. BUT FOR HER actions he died. It’s way more than reprehensible …ITS MURDER!
What in the hell is wrong with her!? A literal demon! Preying on that young man 😭😭😭. I wish that boy had a true friend. Who would actually HELP him. Smmfh!! She pushed him to do it!
Well, Idk that your children should be taught that you are the ONLY person they can trust. That might set them up to have a very poor or nonexistent social/love life.
This happened very close to my home... Conrad worked at the docks as did i and i probablly ran into him many times while at work... i wish i could have met him and helped him
@☁POPULATION-_-420🌿 is one of those people who doesn't understand that people on the Internet actually live in real towns. They actually have neighbors and jobs. Poor kid. So clueless.
As someone who has an online friend who’s committed suicide, sending them texts despite knowing you’ll never get a reply is actually normal. At least for me
I do that too. I only recently stopped because I'm afraid someone may have the number already and that I'm.bothering them. I hope no one does though, because it's very therapeutic. I feel like I'm sending him something, although obviously I'm not. His number is the last form of "contact" I can feel I have with him.
@@Quebonitoeslobonito123 pardon me but I just want to tell you that there are some very good mediums here on UA-cam that I believe are contacting those who have passed. Kris from Spirit Talk, Judy from Electronic Medium, Sara Saving Spirits, Mandy from Spirit Seeker Squad, Sloan Bella and the Psychic Reverend Donna Seraphina. Donna was the lady who saw what happened to Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow 5 months before they were found. She saw what happened to them and the evidence was exact. Please reach out to someone who can help you to speak to your friend. Knowing they really exist and are okay is a wonderful relief. I don't think there's anything wrong with you sending messages. I'm sure they'd understand.
Yea it’s different when you talk someone into suicide. And do nothing to help them. Then act like you care and love this person. If she actually cared for him. She would have called the police and got him help.
@@Nolanoyayo More than persuaded. She hounded him and insisted upon it by finding ways to constantly bring their conversations back to him killing himself. When he was hesitant about it or decided not to do it, she would make him feel like he let her down or disappointed her. She knew that he always mentioned that he felt like he wasn’t good enough and that he let people down and she used that to manipulate him into killing himself. I read all the texts between them that were posted for the public to see and in the beginning I thought to myself “She really is trying to get him help. Maybe she’s not as bad as I thought and how the media is portraying her.” However, then I got to the texts on July 2nd and she was like a completely different person without a soul. She went from telling him repeatedly that he should get help and not to kill himself to encouraging him to do it, taunting him when he couldn’t go through with it, researching it and telling him ways to do it, and pressuring him to do it. So, no she didn’t physically kill him, but “persuaded” is a very light term to use when describing what she did.
CR manipulated her for weeks and months. Don’t just blindly accept the media’s lazy narrative for ratings. It’s a complicated issue that they have no time to delve into. htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/carter-exhibit-30-1497356322.pdf
Someone in the middle of committing suicide calls their "friend" after they get scared that it works and they force him to finish committing the act. That is the most horrendous thing I've ever heard. She was obviously having a great time knowing he was killing himself.
The worst part is the parents call her to ask if she contacted him and she said no, not only did she talk him into it but she also stopped any other person from finding him to stop him!
How in the world is her friend guilty? She didn’t know the details until months after Conrad’s phone had already been in the police’s possession. They already saw that Michelle told him to get back in the car, therefore the text Michelle sent to Samantha only solidified what the cops already knew. Her saying something wouldn’t have changed anything.
This has to be some form of munchausen by proxy where the victim dies and the perpetrator fully intends on soaking up and milking every bit of empathy and attention from the death of their so-called "loved one" and it should be no less punishable that the person who was found online who convinced a college girl to jump from the bridge (I forgot the case) and though the MO differs, they are still arguably responsible in that had they not done what they did (for power, thrill, attention, disordered socialization etc). If you are outside when someone you know tries to sneak in a house to steal something, and your friend ends up dying "but for" them being there applies to the death and causes murder convictions. How is this different? Arguably more culpable!
To think... how she encouraged him in his time of need. My friend once contacted me over the phone while attempting suicide when I was a state away. After a minute of research, that told me their method was in fact lethal, all I could do was coax my friend into seeking help and medical attention. I can’t imagine... encouraging them to die. That would’ve never been an option for anybody who has a heart. My friend survived, and although we haven’t kept in touch, I’m grateful that they live their life in peace now. Rest In Peace, Conrad.
@@vintagesparkles4289 Growing pains of being an adult. 🥲 I was able to watch my friend develop their career and move out of our home state for better opportunities. After that, we simply drifted apart. Thanks for your reply. ♥️
The parents knew but he went to inpatient and they thought he was doing better he was doing all the right things for them to believe he was doing better.
Therapy doesn't help unless you get rid of the issues. I think it's funny when I go to therapy and they think I'm the fucking problem and not society and if I only conform to what those fucking bullies want I'll be fine in life.
@@ebogar42 maybe you ARE the problem. Not saying your situation is true but if you're finding the same answers from different therapists, maybe you're not accepting the truth.
She validated his depressive suicidal thoughts. NO ONE should do that! He already have negative thoughts as it is and this chick pushes him to kill himself instead of encouraging him to seek help. Shame on her! She deserves prison time.
I had a friend since childhood do the same to me. I would wake up to calls from her saying that she had suicidal thoughts and I would try my best to convince her there's a better way, that life is worth it, while I had my own thoughts. After I had my own attempt and told her about it, she didn't comfort me or ask me why. She quickly told me that she believes there's a place for in the afterlife for people who commit suicide. I realized then that neither of us could help each other. Some people lack sympathy so much it's strange. I have no sympathy for Michelle because I know how easily a suicidal person can be swayed to go through with I when convinced well enough.
she encouraged help in the beginning. There's only so much a person can do. Once she realized he would always be a weak, she exploited it. No girl would ever want to be with a guy that weak unless she could somehow benefit from it.
That’s not the same thing. She convinced him back into doing it after he decided not to. That’s like convincing someone who’s been drinking to drive home after they’ve already decided to take an uber. If that person end up in a crash the person who convinced them to drive should be held responsible
She is the best manipulator ever. These types of people are the scariest of scary people. This is just the beginning of what manipulators do. watch & wait what she does next. She preys on those _weaker_ than her. This is sad...just terribly sad.
@@jaywholoveseveryone1721 lol I don't think it always works like that. If people had plans they wouldn't get caught so easily. She wouldn't have been stupid enough to text him or others incriminating her. I don't even think she thought he would do it but it was fucked up. Sometimes fucked up people have no real motive to do something. They just do it.
She will never be a woman, she will never have the mental capacity to be one she is still a twit teenager in my eyes an actual “mean girl” she was trying to get attention.
When I was in high school I dated a girl for a short period of time who at one point, on a school night had called me and told me she was going to kill herself. I did everything in my power, to talk her down from it, and even called 911 because i was concerned. She had every opportunity and in my opinion, obligation to help him.
My sister committed suicide 2 years ago... if I found out that she was reaching out to someone and that person was pushing her towards suicide rather than getting her help... I think I would loose my mind!! How could you be so heartless?so callous? All for what seems like personal... social gain. She had a good friend... and she pushed him over the edge. Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
You have my heartfelt condolences. This is more common than people think. Suicidal & mentally ill people get SO much judgement and so little help. On top of that, this family got no real justice for Conrad. Torturing a mentally ill person is pure evil. Even if you're mentally ill yourself.
I could related bc this also, the mother of my child try to convince me to take my own life, but I saw right through her damn plan. And now I have move on and am happy I didn't take my own life. And live to see my son.
It's a demon who whispers such falsehoods. They do it over and over and pass from person to person. The best thing to do is ignore them. Once they realize you're on to them, they'll leave you alone because they can't feed off your emotions anymore. The repetition is the key to knowing what's going on. They never say anything creative or different. Just negative thoughts. Pray, laugh, eat and forget about them is the best medicine.
Teens are extremely impulsive!! What seems like a good idea today will be completely different tomorrow if not within hours. So sad that she didn’t alert his mom or try and get him to stop. Literally ANYTHING other than what she did. I can’t grasp what could have been going through her head??
And I think she was drained by his non stop talking about killing himself, I read the txts, and I'm not sticking up for her but I have empathy. She had major mental issues herself.
@@morewithmariama7723 She had an eating disorder so I don't think she was trying to get attention but maybe cope with things she couldn't handle like this relationship and her boyfriends suicidal ideations. Also I think as a teenager and during that time in our lives we think about these things naturally. I had a friend or two that were tortured by their own mind. After they committed suicide I wondered if they were more at peace and it was better for them. It's a sad thing to think about. When you are a teenager things are so intense and seem so important but are really not at all.
@@wilddog4143 Couldn’t agree with you more! Michelle Carter has severe mental health issues. She also tried talking Conrad out of suicide for almost 2 years before she told him to go ahead and do it. Ultimately it was his choice to commit suicide. She will NEVER live this down. Everywhere she goes it will follow her. Idk what kind of life she will have now. But it won’t be an easy one. I wish he would’ve gone to his parents. We all do.
Unpopular opinion: she was supportive and talked him out of it for TWO YEARS prior to this tragic ending. I honestly think she was just calling his bluff and didn’t think he would actually go through with it.
We heard here in Germany about this case. She forced a unstable soul to so suicide. So often she aks " will you do it today?" "Do it today!" Why didnt she call the parents or the cops?
There is no freedom of speech in Germany. Your laws also oblige you to mandatory help. But not here, people are free to walk away when someone is in grave danger - bleeding, drowning, etc. It is not a crime in USA. Hence the controversy.
This is case of bullying by a supposedly a friend /girlfriend that lead to this poor Young man taking his life & is intentional case of manslaughter by being the cause of depression & eventual suicide.
Regardless of Michelle why is no one having the conversation that his parents did not have him in therapy when he tried to commit suicide before. From that moment he should have getting help from that point on. His parents need to take responsibility for not knowing what was going on with their child and not making sure he had what he needed. Michelle would have no been a factor if they got him the help he really needed.
It seems like the parents did get him help “Conrad Roy struggled with social anxiety and depression for which he had seen several therapists and counselors, including a cognitive behavioral therapist in the weeks prior to his death.”
@@cynthiatowers1038 Speaking from personal experience (I’ve been hospitalized for suicidal thoughts, gave myself a black eye)- my guess is Conrad’s parents thought that taking him to see a professional and “several” therapists was enough. This case is a great example of how it’s not. You have to actually help your child at home too. Emotional neglect is so harmful and I don’t hear it talked about as nearly as much as physical or even verbal abuse. My suicidal tendencies come from never being taught how to properly manage my emotions. I was sent to my room every time I was upset. I took my anger out on myself starting at a very young age. Something as simple as my parents not being able to handle me being upset, affects me to this day. I believe this to be the case with Conrad after hearing what the Aunt had to say. In her eyes, Conrad wasn’t a victim until she read Michelle’s texts. I watched this yesterday but I’m pretty sure she also says she was angry with Conrad after he passed. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.) I’m aware that’s the Aunt and not the parents, but I would be surprised if their sentiments weren’t similar. Just my two cents as someone who can heavily empathize with Conrad.
He had seen many therapists and counsellors, you make it seem like all people have to do is see a therapist, get some medication and voila no longer suicidal, all better now, it doesn't work like that, do you know how many people in therapy and on medication commit suicide, many, many.
It’s scary how much control she had over him. Every demon he probably had in his head at the time probably sounded just like her. I wonder what her parents missed, she probably said some things to them that they took as a joke. She was serious
Disgusting failure of the justice system. You can't fix someone this severely mentally ill and since she clearly has no capacity for empathy I won't be surprised when she ends up in prison for something else.
And all she got was a few months in jail when it was all over 🤦🏻♂️ and she even got outta jail months early for …. “GOOD BEHAVIOR” 😮 our system is a joke especially when ur a pretty young blonde w/ 💰💵
The ONLY thing that seals the deal for me is that he got OUT of the vehicle, which indicated he wanted to STOP, even if only for a little while, to calm down, or maybe even abort the suicide, but in any event, he was probably NOT clear headed yet, still messed up from the fumes, and she then "told" him to get back in the car, and so he did, because his mind wasn't clear yet! It's like telling a drunk to jump off that cliff they are joking about jumping from! You get my point, right? If he had not been in the fumes already, and was totally sober, and she told him to do it, to me that would be different, he is still in control, fully.
LOL I've never been so fucked up I took my own life. Quit blaming chemicals for his mental state. That mother fucker wanted to kill himself and was just looking for a reason and she gave it to him.
They were both sick. She Most likely has BPD (I do) and he had serious issues and didn't want help. She kept getting help for her eating disorders and she always came out better until he dragged her down. BPD is serious and being alone is terrifying and affects your emotions. She had no real friends and she was needy and the only person that dealt with her was this boy who on and off verbally/emotionally abused her and they dismissed at the beginning for a while, she begged him to get help because it made her feel better and him being this way really affected her and he always freaked out on her and threatened to abandon her. He was the only one that dealt with her and him ditching her could have made her suicidal. She suggested calling his mom and she ultimately just got so tired of him and slowly went from being scared he would do cause when he would scream suicide she would blow up his phone and he would blow her off about it when he finally would answer a long time later and slowly starting he would.. just do it. On his own. I have experienced this with an ex and I eventually just would think to myself "omg just do it then!" Whenever we fought or I would try to break up. I finally did 911 and got a restraining order.. he needed help. Both families here for help for them here and there but as a parent with a mentally ill child, you HAVE to be on TOP of everything while also trying not to be too suffocating. My parents had a locator on my phone, occasionally checked my room, phone logs and computer in my room (my father was a computer engineer so yeah I could never hide anything but didn't need too because I did well) made me take my medicine in front of them and threatened legal measures when i became a legal adult and went through a phase. These families got some help but clearly wanted breaks from dealing with them or flat out were in denial eventually and be like "oh they used to have issues but grew out of it." This all could have been avoided by the parents being more attentive and just getting phone logs at some point and got them psychiatrists and counselors. Let Michelle alone and get help.
The day they met each other is unfortunate chain of events. When two teenagers who suffer from depression and anxiety, develop a relationship it is like a ticking time bomb.
She had the "They Shoot Horses Don't They" mentality. It's a reference to the normal practice of putting injured horses out of their misery. In the movie "They Shoot Horses Don't They", "Gloria feels her life is hopeless and has attempted suicide in the past. During the dance marathon she becomes increasingly depressed - losing the will to live." Basically someone who assists in some way to end the life of someone who is in deep physical and/or psychological suffering, like a "Jack Kevorkian" who was a euthanasia proponent and pathologist, he went to prison for 2nd degree murder. Also "Angel of Mercy", but they're listed as serial killers and are usually doctors or nurses. Euthanasia is legal in few states and very limited in who they deem eligible to end their suffering, usually incurable disease of the body ... but not incurable disease of the mind. That b.s. right there and how people with mental illness are FORCED to undergo even more extended suffering from Big Pharma chemicals and selfish family members who care more about losing their possession than their possession's suffering. And of course, look how much money a lot of people would lose out on as human suffering makes capitalists big bank. Fine lines here, but truth and yeah, it hurts.
I can still recall, like it was yesterday, driving by Kmart in Fairhaven, Ma wondering why there was a truck and yellow tape around 6am. Our town was broken to learn what had happened to Conrad! 💔🙏🏻😇 I’m sorry, but justice still hasn’t been served to what this family has endured when it could of all been prevented!
Michelle is a little sociopath. They are very good at faking emotions- sincerity, compassion, etc. How else could she have done it? It must be truly awful for her parents. She could pose a danger to them and anyone- RIP Conrad.
Please…for those who consider suicide, please please please reach out. There are always resources and help lines available for free. Please remember that if ever you feel like ending it, that you are worth more than anything and people will help you.
My husband’s best friend/honorary brother of 20 years killed himself a few months ago. No one had any idea he was in such a bad place mentally. Had he picked up the phone and texted my husband at 3am saying anything remotely close to “I’m thinking of ending my life” my and husband and I would be there immediately by his side doing anything in our power to in order to get that gun from his hands. What this girl did is absolutely despicable and inexcusable.
Please understand that mentally ill people feel huge shame & guilt and will lie about their depression to make others feel better, ESPECIALLY those they are closest to. There was nothing you could have done so I hope you are not adding to your grief with regret.
@@lorraineclark4413 Oh my gosh. How did you know that? I’m told not to put any of the blame on myself but I do truly feel partially responsible. I kind of caused a distance between my husband and his best friend because he wasn’t always very nice to me despite my best efforts. I still loved him and thought of him as family as he was my husband’s closest friend. I even asked him to officiate our wedding and he happily accepted. But he could just be so temperamental sometimes. Neither of us had any inclination he was struggling. He had just made plans with husband 2 days before he killed himself.
She did assisted suicide…it use to be a crime to commit suicide. The text messages is the truth and she blatantly convinced him. Like what person in the right state of mind will tell anyone that? She deserves everything that comes towards her.
Honestly suicide is tricky I don't think anyone should be forced to live and I also think that no one should be convinced to go through it. We should encourage others to continue to fight on.
Michelle Carter & Conrad Roy were sending thousands of text messages. She could have told him to tell his parents and she knew Conrad had problems. She was in prison and now she out of prison and living her life. Conrad Roy is gone.. so sad. The whole story is sad for everyone involved.
Think about those words...I COULDN'T HAVE HIM LIVING LIKE HE WAS....I COULDN'T HAVE HIM LIVING...He TRIED to live. He was vulnerable and she took advantage of it. She should be in jail.
This young mens death doesn’t sit right with me, I’ve cried watching the Hulu serie Such a heartbreaking unnecessary death and the fact that she’s out free makes more unsettling, My heart goes out to he’s family I so wish he would’ve never listened to that girl when she said to him to get back in the car I swear that was the devils work, Rest Peacefully Conrad🌹
I don’t this is the first time this was done, folks just haven’t been caught! I also mean before cell phones 📱 folks get that call at 2 am from a friend. How many help them thru it and just how many didn’t! I guess we’ll never know!
Jesus poor kid. He deserved so much better. I wish he could have met a sweet caring girl who would have immediately called his parents and the police. And actually been a real friend and real caring girlfriend. She’s odd looking, has a creepy look to her. Why would she do such a hideous thing? Why wouldn’t she tell him to live! Things can change so quickly. He might have overcome his depressive thoughts around a caring sane person who had his best interests at heart.
Just started this show last night .. this makes me need to go finish it more now. I remembered this case and seeing it on Hulu last night I needed to start it . The fact it’s still being talked about it good because it needs to be , she shouldn’t forget what she did. Cases of people making them kill themselves / making pacts and backing out breaks my heart because it hits too close to home . Don’t snuff out a light that never got the chance to shine … help change the bulb(circumstances) to help them light up..
@@ladydeanna3775 what are u talking about? The Hulu show is no different than this news segment lol. And neither is “supporting” Michelle Carter. And she doesn’t get any $$ from tv show. Your comment doesn’t even make sense.
Poor guy just did whatever this evil said 💔 He might be feeling so bad that the girl he loves wants him to die and he literally found no more reason to live 💔 wish he had some self esteem I’m so sorry.. idk what joy this lady found in it by doing it
What a literal freak. I was in a psychotic depression. Didn’t remember my birthday. And still was doing my weekly food handout to the homeless around me. Never once would I have thought to harm anyone. Not now, or then. I only wanted to give others what I never received. I’m not bragging (you have no idea who I truly am), I’m not trying to one up anyone. But I have never, EVER EVER EVER met anyone who would even come CLOSE to what she did.
Suicide is caused by untreated mental illness and they actually believe their loved ones are better off without them. She reassured him of this lie and might as well have locked him in that truck herself.
It's disgusting what she did. I was in her position. I talked to a guy for 4 years and the entire time he was suicidal. He threatened to do it 3 times and I talked him down. One time after 24 straight hours of trying to talk him down he took a bunch of pills while on video call with me at 3am. I called his mother, she came and got him. It was finally over, and he got hospitalized. After that we gradually grew apart and disconnected. BUT HES STILL FUCKING ALIVE. She knew exactly what she was doing telling him to go through with it, and no matter the circumstances, no matter how long they talked about it and worn down she claims those conversations made her, no one, and I mean NO ONE, would ever tell someone to GO BACK to their attempt after they changed their mind.
I feel sorry for him but I feel sorry for her. Having to put up with a suicidal man for two years takes a toll on your mental health. The parents knew he was suicidal and could’ve tried harder. He knew he was suicidal and could’ve learned how to control his mind better, like that saying ‘Control your thoughts before they control you’. She needs psycho evaluation and hella therapy but not jail time, that doesn’t solve anything
He got out of the car, and she told him to get back in. That says it all. She is vile, and she can live her adult life but because of her actions, Conrad can't.
She's a demon simple as that miss me with this narcissist and psychopath and sociopath words there different levels of demons
Not her flaut he was weak minded
@@cutdogslim find some weak-minded person to abused and it's not your fault says everything about your mentality and with that attitude yeah better hope and pray the universe doesn't send somebody stronger than you to help you with your own demise
I don’t know if Conrad would be here today but he’s not here today because she told him to get back in,that to me is murder she should’ve got life in my opinion😡
Yea but he listened to her anyway.
Using Conrad’s death for clout. She’s sickening
I feel as though she did all that to make herself feel better for what happened. Which is even more pathetic for her
@@aristakatz if you watch the documentary “I love you, now die”, which is all about the trial and shows a lot of evidence. It’s really clear that her primary motive was to get attention and sympathy from friends
Yup
Clout chaser of the damn century
@@Andrea-bq2pj «they do anything for clout» offset
I feel so bad for his mom. She actually told Michelle that she was glad that Conrad had someone like her in his life.
when she was the one who pretty much took his life 🙁
The Aunt that said she was angry with Conrad for committing suicide and he’s only a victim after reading the texts….. that’s so unbelievably sad. It gives a little insight to his family situation. He clearly had no support there. People who commit suicide are still victims. Victims of their own mind, trauma and sometimes- life situations.
Give me a break.
The Aunt was mad at first that is a normal feeling toward a loved one that kill’s themselves. Then after she learns about little twit Michelle Carter she is not mad she is heart broken.
@@brittanyturner5148 dude they're right. from what we know about his family he didn't have any support and his father was abusive.
I have had a friend do this and I was angry with him for a little while. Everyone is different I mean it can be normal in some cases. I don’t feel his father was abusive I think he took a swing at dad and dad Swamy back. If I were to hit either of my parents as a kid it would not be something I would soon forget. His parents loved him they did not see how he was feeling he made Michelle promise to not tell anyone. Infact he told her he would hate her if she told anyone. She should have not kept his secret and certainly should have never encouraged him! As a parent there are times my kids are going through something I have no clue how they are feeling until later if they choose to tell me. Kids hide things and that is what CoCo did with his parents.
Thank you for this comment, @Princess cherry.
My soul sister committed suicide in 2020... I wish everyday she would have called me. To see this little girl talked someone into killing themselves is beyond comprehensible. Disgusting
I'm so sorry Sylvia ❤
do you mind me asking how old was she and have any idea why she could have done it?
@@Brucelee89896 I wouldn't suggest you try to get that sort of info, because it could end up doing more harm than good.
@@zdelrod829 Sylvia (OP) can speak for herself. If that’s not info she feels like sharing then she won’t share it. She doesn’t need some random person online vetting her questions for her.
@@evanacey1414 I was just saying that it might be a sensitive topic for OP, and it's not the best idea to ask for info about it.
I’ll never get over how he changed his mind and she coerced him back into it. No matter how many angels tried to save this poor boys life the demon inside Michelle was relentless in its pursuit. RIP Conrad.
She could’ve told him to NOT get back in there but she did the opposite. How sad. She could’ve saved him or even maybe as simply not saying anything that would’ve been enough for him to not get back in the truck.
@@Flower13022 She didn't want to save him. She would go on to harm and manipulate others if she hadn't got called out. She is just going to try and be careful next time she victimizes someone.
No angels and demons....just a conscience decision to manipulate and cause pain.
There are no such things as angels and demons, ONLY PEOPLE who do the right thing and the wrong thing. Enough with that religious jumbo jumbo!
Shut up about the angels. She didn't kill him. He killed himself. I bet you didn't know he attempted suicide multiple times before they even met, did you?
One thing I find interesting about this is michelle told him to delete all her texts before he killed himself but he did the exact opposite. He deleted everyone else's texts except Michelle's
I believe that’s because the mind is not in the right state when you’re suicidal, but it’s also not stupid. He may have made his decision into committing suicide but wasn’t 100% committed, until his GIRLFRIEND convinced him to do it. I feel he had a wow moment where he couldn’t believe his own girlfriend thought he should indeed kill himself. Although he could unfortunately end his life without anyone pressuring him in the moment, he knew how disgusting and evil his girlfriend was for convincing him to pursue it rather than saying don’t; and for that he left those texts so she can be held accountable - it’s as if saying “yeah I don’t want to be here anymore, but that fact my girlfriend does too, yeah I’ll do it, but she should be held accountable” and that drew him more into his suicidal mind where your brain tells you lies “you’re not worthy, do it, you’d do everyone a favor, you’re a nuisance, etc” and unfortunately, he did it.
I read and watched so much on this case and NEVER knew that. Thank you.
Deleted texts can still be recovered from a phone.
@@leolldankology obviously but it peaked detectives interest seeing he only had texts from here. They did recover what he deleted but if he had never deleted all those texts besides hers she probably would have gotten away with it
@@DeeRio9546 I agree.
It's horrible to hear about kids commiting suicide because of bullying. But to hear about a young man coaxed into it by his girlfriend? Why would she do that? She needs to be in some type of institution!!! Locked away so she can't do this again...
She’ll probably go into an institution and talk a nurse into killing herself or someone more likely to kill themselves.
She needs a home down under.
She was in an institution up until a few weeks before his death. She was discharged by McLean Hospital and sent back into society where she clearly didn’t belong. In turn, this cost Conrad his life. So tragic.
Same thing happened with her and the penal system. This won't be the last time she does something like this unless she gets serious long term psychotherapy. God help her children when she has them if she doesn't get help.
The boy was unstable,he was going to do it one day anyway.
@@tiptoe38 I’m sorry! 🧏♂️What the phuq is you peoples problem with human life?
Whether one day or no day, he could have gotten help from his family had they known. His gf needs to be charge and you need to follow her also. PLEASE!
I don’t want my children to have friends like you,{EVER}
Diabolical. That's the first word out of my mouth in 2015 when I heard of this. She deserved way more time than she got.
I agree. I read hundreds of her texts and they were disturbing to say the least. Even though she is out of jail, I imagine her life will be difficult because of her infamy. Shame on her!!
Yeah I know a lot of people are screaming about free speech but it's not like she sent one message or two supporting the idea that he end his life there's just hundreds of when are you going to do it when are you going to do it when are you going to do it why not today why not today that kind of s*** like a cheerleader just disgusting psychopath
I think that's a pretty damn good word to describe this girl. Absolutely horrendous behavior.
What did she say on the stand? I dont have hulu
@@blues4804 she didn’t testify
"I can't handle you being gone"....WTF!! She forced him to go. What a complete psychotic.
EVIL!!! Pure evil … people need to quit looking at a pretty young woman. She is evil. She will do this again. Too much pay off and excitement for her. Power.
She told him to do it. She didn't force him to get in the truck.
@@avalonjustin talked him into it those he’s sick
@@makenziebrown3649 That's completely right. I just don't get why many people comment on this case saying Michelle forced Conrad to do anything. She didn't point a gun at his head or threaten his family and say "get back in the truck". Like you said, he was sick and suicidal at the time. He very well could have walked away and still be alive if not for Michelle's influence.
@@makenziebrown3649 Let me tell you: I've been suicidal many times in my life, and came very close to doing it many times. If I had a Michelle who encouraged me to follow through, I could be dead right now. It was a sick and evil thing she did for sure.
Wow that is so evil. How can such a young person be so cold, callous and uncaring? So sad, poor guy and his family.
Were you never a teenager? Kids are horrible.
@@larisa7547 I sure was and I knew some shitty people, but I don’t remember anyone who would’ve actually wanted someone to die and convinced them to do it, esp when they were wanting to back out and not do it.
What are you talk about? She planned his tournament for him. He’d be proud!
All evil people were young once. 🤷🏽♀️
End of day it’s him he decided to Kill himself she she not be responsible this is retarted
DON’T Fall for this chick. She was covering herself for what she did. Go look and see what she really did to him.
She deserves LIFE.
She is a disgusting person.
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I felt EXACTLY the same way B U T go watch the HBO doc. I couldn't believe it changed my mind
@@Pinkricaan why ? She told him get back in the car and became obsessive,no?
@@kaseysewick1691 I saw it a while ago so I can't remember the details around it but I implore you to watch the doc... I'm not saying she wasn't an effed up individual at times in this situation but my strong stance on her was softened
It’s sad how she was able to get away with this. She should still be locked up today. RIP Conrad
If she was African, she would have been jailed!
@@jazzyj6640 and if she was Jamaican?
Speech isn’t a crime.
@@Guitarlvr01 Speech isn’t a crime but when he got out of the car she told him to get back in and finish it. She should be held accountable for her actions and not just be able to walk away.
@@Guitarlvr01 if she didn't tell him to get back in the truck he would still be alive today.. thats coercion. and she practically begged him to get in that truck. they spoke on the phone for 40 minutes while he was dying, she was probably wanting to make sure the job was done so she stayed on the phone til he was no longer breathing. Bullying is a crime. Threatening someone is a crime. Words can kill
It’s her fault for pushing him into suicide. I have no empathy for her.
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she was completely deluded, its insane (no pun intended).
like she didnt need to send these texts. no one was gonna see them. but i think she built up this lie so much that she began to believe it a little bit. she thought she genuinely loved him.
insane
He was suicidal before her. He would've done it eventually even if she wasn't in his life. She isn't to blame. Words can't kill. If you want to blame someone, blame him.
@@princelips3980 Well I saw the texting and other evidence during the time that this happened . She is to blame. Dr. Kevorkian was just as guilty for his assistance with suicides. He was not going to commit suicide but she kept pushing him.
In most circumstances everyone’s first thought is to get this person help and do your best to not let them go through with trying to hurt themselves. Idk what is wrong with her but only psychopaths think like she does!
Exactly, Conrad reached out to her at the worst moment of his life, the moment he wanted to end it, and she told him to get back in the car! I'm sure his family wish he had reached out to anyone but her.
She's a woman, and so ofcourse she's a psychopath. As men, we just expect women to be conceited, narcissistic, and psychopathic. We have known enough women to know, it's extremely rare to find one who isn't. You're more likely to find a 10 million dollar diamond in your dog's crap.
@Chime In I feel for your brother. 😞 When you lose the will to live you just want out. please don’t let him know the way you feel or he’ll just want to die more. He probably feels like a burden to you and your family
For all the Brothas heed the advice
The Brothas who can resist the white woman is on his way to paradise
Minister Louis Farrakhan
I feel like it’s sort of munchausen by proxy in that she wanted to feed off the the tragedy and her relationship to him to get attention.
She seems narcissistic. She did all of this for attention and to get sympathy. I feel so bad for Conrad and his family.
Please See Through Her Manipulation Here. No sympathy for you at all!
@☁POPULATION-_-420🌿 does it matter?
@@summermackay7924 wish it didn’t matter but there are definitely people who have sympathy over her than him just cause she’s female, this is coming from a girl btw
People who constantly and secretly threaten suicide to one person in order to keep that individual near, feeling responsible and constantly on call ARE the abusers. Threatening suicide to maintain a relationship is a DEADLY MANIPULATION and the victim is the person guilty into "Saving the other person or letting them die" she was broken, tired and wanted relief from his fake grief. The guy died because she no longer fell for his lies and he was certain she would, every time he demanded it of her.
@@bluecube7247 except it WASNT a lie. If it was, he would still be alive.
Obviously their relationship was toxic. But it seems Michelle could be even more manipulative and emotionally abusive as he "was".
Freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to bully someone into killing themselves
Just like Freedom to bear arms doesn't give you the right to use it to murder someone
@Luminary Harris when the intent is death it still is murder
Very well said.
Mentally and Physically are two different things
@@rg8954 still results in a death it's still murder
Well not according to the Law. Realistically she wasn't supposed to be charged due to the gray area of Assisting Suicide in that state. The case was catching attention so they went for Manslaughter and it worked.
Who the hell is SHE to “not LET people live…” the way they want?! Honestly, if she did this to my son, she wouldn’t make it to prison !
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Same!!! She is one of the most EVIL criminals we know about.
He is the one who ultimately made the decision after being suicidal for years. Even before he met her. What she did was reprehensible, but ultimately she isn't to blame. This, was his decision after years of feeling this way. No one else's
@@princelips3980 That’s your opinion, but it’s not the truth. He had changed his mind about it & got out of the truck & SHE opened her yap & convinced a (weak-minded, sick) individual to get back in the truck & do it! If she had kept her mouth shut, he would still be alive. BUT FOR HER actions he died. It’s way more than reprehensible …ITS MURDER!
Same!
What in the hell is wrong with her!? A literal demon! Preying on that young man 😭😭😭. I wish that boy had a true friend. Who would actually HELP him. Smmfh!! She pushed him to do it!
Technically she did help him.
@@paulmackyou9098 No.
@@paulmackyou9098 hell no, stop.
Parents empower your kids not to fall into manipulations from peers. Create a strong bond with your kids that you are the only people they trust
Dads- don't beat up your sons. Get over your macho gorilla behavior and get the boy HELP.
Well, Idk that your children should be taught that you are the ONLY person they can trust. That might set them up to have a very poor or nonexistent social/love life.
You should never be the only people they trust but rather the people they trust the most.
She decided to make someone kill themselves, and fully deserves to be punished.
For all the Brothas heed the advice
The Brothas who can resist the white woman is on his way to paradise
Minister Louis Farrakhan
He already wanted to himself. She didn’t cause those feelings of defeat.
That is not a crime
Poor Conrad got back in. I wonder how alone he must’ve felt in that moment. The one person who he trusted made her feel so alone. So terrible
Oh…💔
This happened very close to my home... Conrad worked at the docks as did i and i probablly ran into him many times while at work... i wish i could have met him and helped him
@☁POPULATION-_-420🌿 Not a liar
@@PROBLUM79 The whole thing is tragic. I think outward he hid it well, it was a nice sentiment by you.
So you both sold your body? The docks is where I pick up all my whores.
@☁POPULATION-_-420🌿 is one of those people who doesn't understand that people on the Internet actually live in real towns. They actually have neighbors and jobs. Poor kid. So clueless.
As someone who has an online friend who’s committed suicide, sending them texts despite knowing you’ll never get a reply is actually normal. At least for me
I do that too. I only recently stopped because I'm afraid someone may have the number already and that I'm.bothering them. I hope no one does though, because it's very therapeutic. I feel like I'm sending him something, although obviously I'm not. His number is the last form of "contact" I can feel I have with him.
@@Quebonitoeslobonito123 pardon me but I just want to tell you that there are some very good mediums here on UA-cam that I believe are contacting those who have passed.
Kris from Spirit Talk, Judy from Electronic Medium, Sara Saving Spirits, Mandy from Spirit Seeker Squad, Sloan Bella and the Psychic Reverend Donna Seraphina.
Donna was the lady who saw what happened to Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow 5 months before they were found. She saw what happened to them and the evidence was exact.
Please reach out to someone who can help you to speak to your friend. Knowing they really exist and are okay is a wonderful relief. I don't think there's anything wrong with you sending messages. I'm sure they'd understand.
Yea it’s different when you talk someone into suicide. And do nothing to help them. Then act like you care and love this person. If she actually cared for him. She would have called the police and got him help.
@@lorimiller4301 stop just stop, don’t use someone else’s grief and pain to advertise something. That’s just selfish, mediums are bullshit.
This. Mediums are con artists, preying on vulnerable people.
The way he died is so disturbing. She definitely killed him.
She didn't kill him. She persuaded him to kill himself. Two very different things.
@@Nolanoyayo More than persuaded. She hounded him and insisted upon it by finding ways to constantly bring their conversations back to him killing himself. When he was hesitant about it or decided not to do it, she would make him feel like he let her down or disappointed her. She knew that he always mentioned that he felt like he wasn’t good enough and that he let people down and she used that to manipulate him into killing himself. I read all the texts between them that were posted for the public to see and in the beginning I thought to myself “She really is trying to get him help. Maybe she’s not as bad as I thought and how the media is portraying her.” However, then I got to the texts on July 2nd and she was like a completely different person without a soul. She went from telling him repeatedly that he should get help and not to kill himself to encouraging him to do it, taunting him when he couldn’t go through with it, researching it and telling him ways to do it, and pressuring him to do it. So, no she didn’t physically kill him, but “persuaded” is a very light term to use when describing what she did.
He definitely did it himself ..but she coaxed him to do it
CR manipulated her for weeks and months. Don’t just blindly accept the media’s lazy narrative for ratings. It’s a complicated issue that they have no time to delve into. htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/carter-exhibit-30-1497356322.pdf
@@Nolanoyayo she told him to kill himself not persuaded
Someone in the middle of committing suicide calls their "friend" after they get scared that it works and they force him to finish committing the act. That is the most horrendous thing I've ever heard. She was obviously having a great time knowing he was killing himself.
The worst part is the parents call her to ask if she contacted him and she said no, not only did she talk him into it but she also stopped any other person from finding him to stop him!
She was clearly loving it. She’s sick af
This is disgasting and sick. 🤮 She is maniac.
@@bluemeanie9554 yes. She is maniac. She had pleasure . She had got self affermation by
breaking him. Poor boy .
When the 20/20 episode started and they were showing clips of what was coming up, my immediate reaction was “wtf is Cara Delevingne on trial for???”
Who? 🤣🤣🤣
@@bigmizzymike the model that got famous for her thick brows.
An insult to Cara
diet! Way
@@DanieladeLeca I can see the resemblance, like maybe a cousin. Lol
Cara is definitely prettier tho.
How guilty is her friend too she knew everything and she choose not to say anything
Yes
How in the world is her friend guilty? She didn’t know the details until months after Conrad’s phone had already been in the police’s possession. They already saw that Michelle told him to get back in the car, therefore the text Michelle sent to Samantha only solidified what the cops already knew. Her saying something wouldn’t have changed anything.
@@heyjphoto uuuuummm cuz she DIDNT tell the cops?!?!? that’s called being complicit..
@@heyjphoto it would have helped the cops arrest her sooner and bring this case to justice sooner
She found out after the police had already found out. You never know how she responded.
She did all this fake caring for clout and sympathy
She's a Malignant Narcissist, craves attention to the Nth Degree.
This has to be some form of munchausen by proxy where the victim dies and the perpetrator fully intends on soaking up and milking every bit of empathy and attention from the death of their so-called "loved one" and it should be no less punishable that the person who was found online who convinced a college girl to jump from the bridge (I forgot the case) and though the MO differs, they are still arguably responsible in that had they not done what they did (for power, thrill, attention, disordered socialization etc). If you are outside when someone you know tries to sneak in a house to steal something, and your friend ends up dying "but for" them being there applies to the death and causes murder convictions. How is this different? Arguably more culpable!
I was thinking the same thing. Very like MBP.
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To think... how she encouraged him in his time of need. My friend once contacted me over the phone while attempting suicide when I was a state away. After a minute of research, that told me their method was in fact lethal, all I could do was coax my friend into seeking help and medical attention.
I can’t imagine... encouraging them to die. That would’ve never been an option for anybody who has a heart.
My friend survived, and although we haven’t kept in touch, I’m grateful that they live their life in peace now.
Rest In Peace, Conrad.
why didn’t you keep in touch? i’m glad you were there for them
@@vintagesparkles4289 Growing pains of being an adult. 🥲 I was able to watch my friend develop their career and move out of our home state for better opportunities. After that, we simply drifted apart. Thanks for your reply. ♥️
Did his parents or the school know how depressed he was? Acting like he was just fine was not what he needed; he needed therapy/intervention.
The parents knew but he went to inpatient and they thought he was doing better he was doing all the right things for them to believe he was doing better.
Therapy doesn't help unless you get rid of the issues. I think it's funny when I go to therapy and they think I'm the fucking problem and not society and if I only conform to what those fucking bullies want I'll be fine in life.
@@ebogar42 don’t you dare conform! You’re doing fine.
his dad and grandfather were abusive. he tried committing suicide at least once before but gave up until michelle carter entered his circle.
@@ebogar42 maybe you ARE the problem. Not saying your situation is true but if you're finding the same answers from different therapists, maybe you're not accepting the truth.
You wanted to get him help, but you pushed him back in the car.
She validated his depressive suicidal thoughts. NO ONE should do that! He already have negative thoughts as it is and this chick pushes him to kill himself instead of encouraging him to seek help. Shame on her! She deserves prison time.
I had a friend since childhood do the same to me. I would wake up to calls from her saying that she had suicidal thoughts and I would try my best to convince her there's a better way, that life is worth it, while I had my own thoughts. After I had my own attempt and told her about it, she didn't comfort me or ask me why. She quickly told me that she believes there's a place for in the afterlife for people who commit suicide. I realized then that neither of us could help each other.
Some people lack sympathy so much it's strange. I have no sympathy for Michelle because I know how easily a suicidal person can be swayed to go through with I when convinced well enough.
she encouraged help in the beginning. There's only so much a person can do. Once she realized he would always be a weak, she exploited it. No girl would ever want to be with a guy that weak unless she could somehow benefit from it.
Dude if a plug sells someone dope and they’re an idiot and OD. The dealer gets life. This is way worse and she gets a pretty small charge for a body.
so if I sell someone a car and they end up crashing it and dying that makes me somehow responsible? Ok then! What a sick society we live in.
That’s not the same thing. She convinced him back into doing it after he decided not to. That’s like convincing someone who’s been drinking to drive home after they’ve already decided to take an uber. If that person end up in a crash the person who convinced them to drive should be held responsible
She is the best manipulator ever. These types of people are the scariest of scary people. This is just the beginning of what manipulators do. watch & wait what she does next. She preys on those _weaker_ than her. This is sad...just terribly sad.
Jada Pinkett 🤔
You give people too much credit. Do you think people just sit around trying to prey on people and have a plan?
That’s what I always say too. Those are the scariest kind of people absolutely!
@@ebogar42 nah. They don't "sit around" but they know when to leap when 'prey' is in sight. SHE did.
@@jaywholoveseveryone1721 lol I don't think it always works like that. If people had plans they wouldn't get caught so easily. She wouldn't have been stupid enough to text him or others incriminating her. I don't even think she thought he would do it but it was fucked up. Sometimes fucked up people have no real motive to do something. They just do it.
the woman is pure evil. My heart goes out to the family.
She will never be a woman, she will never have the mental capacity to be one she is still a twit teenager in my eyes an actual “mean girl” she was trying to get attention.
When I was in high school I dated a girl for a short period of time who at one point, on a school night had called me and told me she was going to kill herself. I did everything in my power, to talk her down from it, and even called 911 because i was concerned. She had every opportunity and in my opinion, obligation to help him.
My sister committed suicide 2 years ago... if I found out that she was reaching out to someone and that person was pushing her towards suicide rather than getting her help... I think I would loose my mind!! How could you be so heartless?so callous? All for what seems like personal... social gain. She had a good friend... and she pushed him over the edge. Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
I’m so sorry for your loss. Your sister is watching over you I promise ❤️nothing beats sisterly love ❤️🕊
You have my heartfelt condolences. This is more common than people think. Suicidal & mentally ill people get SO much judgement and so little help. On top of that, this family got no real justice for Conrad. Torturing a mentally ill person is pure evil. Even if you're mentally ill yourself.
I could related bc this also, the mother of my child try to convince me to take my own life, but I saw right through her damn plan. And now I have move on and am happy I didn't take my own life. And live to see my son.
I’m sorry that happened to you. You are worth it ❤️ your son is worth it 👌🏻
It's a demon who whispers such falsehoods. They do it over and over and pass from person to person. The best thing to do is ignore them. Once they realize you're on to them, they'll leave you alone because they can't feed off your emotions anymore. The repetition is the key to knowing what's going on. They never say anything creative or different. Just negative thoughts. Pray, laugh, eat and forget about them is the best medicine.
@@lorimiller4301 this comment just lifted me out of bed. Spread it. Thank you.
SO MANY NARCISSISTIC ABUSIVE WOMEN AND I BLAME FEMINISM FOR IT!
Teens are extremely impulsive!! What seems like a good idea today will be completely different tomorrow if not within hours. So sad that she didn’t alert his mom or try and get him to stop. Literally ANYTHING other than what she did. I can’t grasp what could have been going through her head??
she wanted attention.
And I think she was drained by his non stop talking about killing himself, I read the txts, and I'm not sticking up for her but I have empathy. She had major mental issues herself.
@@morewithmariama7723 She had an eating disorder so I don't think she was trying to get attention but maybe cope with things she couldn't handle like this relationship and her boyfriends suicidal ideations. Also I think as a teenager and during that time in our lives we think about these things naturally. I had a friend or two that were tortured by their own mind. After they committed suicide I wondered if they were more at peace and it was better for them. It's a sad thing to think about. When you are a teenager things are so intense and seem so important but are really not at all.
I think people forget that she was also a teenager and not mentally well. Neither of them were thinking properly.
@@wilddog4143 Couldn’t agree with you more! Michelle Carter has severe mental health issues. She also tried talking Conrad out of suicide for almost 2 years before she told him to go ahead and do it. Ultimately it was his choice to commit suicide. She will NEVER live this down. Everywhere she goes it will follow her. Idk what kind of life she will have now. But it won’t be an easy one. I wish he would’ve gone to his parents. We all do.
If she is not guilty, Charles Manson wasn’t t either…
Seriously. It's so messed up.
@@thegoblinsteed3558 I was just being sarcastic. I think that Charles Manson was definitely guilty as I also think that she is.
Why they talking 2 a minor at school without her parents or attorney present..? That's a violation.
There are ppl just like this young lady who thrive off of other ppls struggles. God help us all.
Unpopular opinion: she was supportive and talked him out of it for TWO YEARS prior to this tragic ending. I honestly think she was just calling his bluff and didn’t think he would actually go through with it.
The evidence including the texts don’t support your opinion
Indeed. And he also could have taken her with him as many men commit murder-suicide, taking their woman - and often children - with himself.
We heard here in Germany about this case. She forced a unstable soul to so suicide. So often she aks " will you do it today?" "Do it today!" Why didnt she call the parents or the cops?
bcuz she clesarly wanted him to do it. It's so damn sad.
@@tyffaneelavely8087 thats so true. How long did she go to jail? 11 months or so? 🤮🤬
There is no freedom of speech in Germany. Your laws also oblige you to mandatory help. But not here, people are free to walk away when someone is in grave danger - bleeding, drowning, etc. It is not a crime in USA. Hence the controversy.
Poor Conrad. He could’ve been alive today to speak about his dark times & how he pushed through.
Love life. Don't destroy it. 😥
I bet she never imagined being held accountable .
This is case of bullying by a supposedly a friend /girlfriend that lead to this poor Young man taking his life & is intentional case of manslaughter by being the cause of depression & eventual suicide.
I been watching Hulu’s The Girl from Plainville, it’s very interesting to case.
There is a documental about this case, much better than the serie, dont remember the name, I think was "I love you, please", something like that.
@Melanie Hale yes . It gave a much more nuanced look. Its not so black and white. Its really just a very unfortunate situation for both families
There’s also a song called Michelle Carter by band SKYND.
teach your kids to recognize fake friends right away and manipulation,mental abuse by others.
If a man did this to a female he would be locked up forever 100%
Regardless of Michelle why is no one having the conversation that his parents did not have him in therapy when he tried to commit suicide before. From that moment he should have getting help from that point on. His parents need to take responsibility for not knowing what was going on with their child and not making sure he had what he needed. Michelle would have no been a factor if they got him the help he really needed.
This!!! The family is getting off scot free for emotionally neglecting their son.
💯💯💯
It seems like the parents did get him help “Conrad Roy struggled with social anxiety and depression for which he had seen several therapists and counselors, including a cognitive behavioral therapist in the weeks prior to his death.”
@@cynthiatowers1038 Speaking from personal experience (I’ve been hospitalized for suicidal thoughts, gave myself a black eye)- my guess is Conrad’s parents thought that taking him to see a professional and “several” therapists was enough. This case is a great example of how it’s not. You have to actually help your child at home too. Emotional neglect is so harmful and I don’t hear it talked about as nearly as much as physical or even verbal abuse. My suicidal tendencies come from never being taught how to properly manage my emotions. I was sent to my room every time I was upset. I took my anger out on myself starting at a very young age. Something as simple as my parents not being able to handle me being upset, affects me to this day. I believe this to be the case with Conrad after hearing what the Aunt had to say. In her eyes, Conrad wasn’t a victim until she read Michelle’s texts. I watched this yesterday but I’m pretty sure she also says she was angry with Conrad after he passed. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.) I’m aware that’s the Aunt and not the parents, but I would be surprised if their sentiments weren’t similar. Just my two cents as someone who can heavily empathize with Conrad.
He had seen many therapists and counsellors, you make it seem like all people have to do is see a therapist, get some medication and voila no longer suicidal, all better now, it doesn't work like that, do you know how many people in therapy and on medication commit suicide, many, many.
Don’t we all know that her message about “moaning pain” is clearly a lie? Carbon monoxide poisoning is not painful.
Exactly. You might cough at best.
He was probably losing consciousness and moaning to stay awake. That’s the sad part that she stayed on the phone and listened. Disgusting.
I thought it made your eyes pop out.
I think you get really sick to your stomach.
It’s scary how much control she had over him. Every demon he probably had in his head at the time probably sounded just like her. I wonder what her parents missed, she probably said some things to them that they took as a joke. She was serious
And she was released early from prison for good behavior. She’s now a free woman.
I hope she is despised where she lives
Disgusting failure of the justice system. You can't fix someone this severely mentally ill and since she clearly has no capacity for empathy I won't be surprised when she ends up in prison for something else.
Charles Manson also didn't kill anyone. But in some scenarios...taking part is almost the same
Yup.
As a mother, her existence is offensive
Someone just unalive it already
And all she got was a few months in jail when it was all over 🤦🏻♂️ and she even got outta jail months early for …. “GOOD BEHAVIOR” 😮 our system is a joke especially when ur a pretty young blonde w/ 💰💵
Just watched a two hour documentary about this toxic excuse for a human being. She only spent one year in prison. Disgusting
Yeah, she got off easy.
The ONLY thing that seals the deal for me is that he got OUT of the vehicle, which indicated he wanted to STOP, even if only for a little while, to calm down, or maybe even abort the suicide, but in any event, he was probably NOT clear headed yet, still messed up from the fumes, and she then "told" him to get back in the car, and so he did, because his mind wasn't clear yet! It's like telling a drunk to jump off that cliff they are joking about jumping from! You get my point, right? If he had not been in the fumes already, and was totally sober, and she told him to do it, to me that would be different, he is still in control, fully.
LOL I've never been so fucked up I took my own life. Quit blaming chemicals for his mental state. That mother fucker wanted to kill himself and was just looking for a reason and she gave it to him.
Why she wants him to die so badly? Literally pressuring him forcing him to kill him
Wtf is wrong w her? And then telling him to delete
They were both sick. She Most likely has BPD (I do) and he had serious issues and didn't want help. She kept getting help for her eating disorders and she always came out better until he dragged her down. BPD is serious and being alone is terrifying and affects your emotions. She had no real friends and she was needy and the only person that dealt with her was this boy who on and off verbally/emotionally abused her and they dismissed at the beginning for a while, she begged him to get help because it made her feel better and him being this way really affected her and he always freaked out on her and threatened to abandon her. He was the only one that dealt with her and him ditching her could have made her suicidal. She suggested calling his mom and she ultimately just got so tired of him and slowly went from being scared he would do cause when he would scream suicide she would blow up his phone and he would blow her off about it when he finally would answer a long time later and slowly starting he would.. just do it. On his own. I have experienced this with an ex and I eventually just would think to myself "omg just do it then!" Whenever we fought or I would try to break up. I finally did 911 and got a restraining order.. he needed help. Both families here for help for them here and there but as a parent with a mentally ill child, you HAVE to be on TOP of everything while also trying not to be too suffocating. My parents had a locator on my phone, occasionally checked my room, phone logs and computer in my room (my father was a computer engineer so yeah I could never hide anything but didn't need too because I did well) made me take my medicine in front of them and threatened legal measures when i became a legal adult and went through a phase. These families got some help but clearly wanted breaks from dealing with them or flat out were in denial eventually and be like "oh they used to have issues but grew out of it." This all could have been avoided by the parents being more attentive and just getting phone logs at some point and got them psychiatrists and counselors. Let Michelle alone and get help.
The day they met each other is unfortunate chain of events. When two teenagers who suffer from depression and anxiety, develop a relationship it is like a ticking time bomb.
She had the "They Shoot Horses Don't They" mentality. It's a reference to the normal practice of putting injured horses out of their misery. In the movie "They Shoot Horses Don't They", "Gloria feels her life is hopeless and has attempted suicide in the past. During the dance marathon she becomes increasingly depressed - losing the will to live." Basically someone who assists in some way to end the life of someone who is in deep physical and/or psychological suffering, like a "Jack Kevorkian" who was a euthanasia proponent and pathologist, he went to prison for 2nd degree murder. Also "Angel of Mercy", but they're listed as serial killers and are usually doctors or nurses. Euthanasia is legal in few states and very limited in who they deem eligible to end their suffering, usually incurable disease of the body ... but not incurable disease of the mind. That b.s. right there and how people with mental illness are FORCED to undergo even more extended suffering from Big Pharma chemicals and selfish family members who care more about losing their possession than their possession's suffering. And of course, look how much money a lot of people would lose out on as human suffering makes capitalists big bank. Fine lines here, but truth and yeah, it hurts.
I am all for Euthanasia. The minute I get Cancer I am hooking myself up. But this girl was cruel and wanted attention.
I can still recall, like it was yesterday, driving by Kmart in Fairhaven, Ma wondering why there was a truck and yellow tape around 6am. Our town was broken to learn what had happened to Conrad! 💔🙏🏻😇 I’m sorry, but justice still hasn’t been served to what this family has endured when it could of all been prevented!
This is disgusting I hope this helps someone from doing anything like this on both sides
Michelle is a little sociopath. They are very good at faking emotions- sincerity, compassion, etc. How else could she have done it? It must be truly awful for her parents. She could pose a danger to them and anyone- RIP Conrad.
The friend Sam should be charged too. She a POS too
Definitely is
I’m shocked at how drastically her appearance changed at trial
Please…for those who consider suicide, please please please reach out. There are always resources and help lines available for free. Please remember that if ever you feel like ending it, that you are worth more than anything and people will help you.
My husband’s best friend/honorary brother of 20 years killed himself a few months ago. No one had any idea he was in such a bad place mentally.
Had he picked up the phone and texted my husband at 3am saying anything remotely close to “I’m thinking of ending my life” my and husband and I would be there immediately by his side doing anything in our power to in order to get that gun from his hands.
What this girl did is absolutely despicable and inexcusable.
Please understand that mentally ill people feel huge shame & guilt and will lie about their depression to make others feel better, ESPECIALLY those they are closest to. There was nothing you could have done so I hope you are not adding to your grief with regret.
@@lorraineclark4413 Oh my gosh.
How did you know that?
I’m told not to put any of the blame on myself but I do truly feel partially responsible. I kind of caused a distance between my husband and his best friend because he wasn’t always very nice to me despite my best efforts. I still loved him and thought of him as family as he was my husband’s closest friend. I even asked him to officiate our wedding and he happily accepted. But he could just be so temperamental sometimes.
Neither of us had any inclination he was struggling. He had just made plans with husband 2 days before he killed himself.
What evil person tells a friend to get back in to end their life. You would stop a stranger from killing themselves.
"We have a search warrant for your phone, so we'll be taking it"
Dammit I wish I could see her face when the doctor said that 😭
She did assisted suicide…it use to be a crime to commit suicide. The text messages is the truth and she blatantly convinced him. Like what person in the right state of mind will tell anyone that? She deserves everything that comes towards her.
She didn’t assist him
@@melodyjane630 Uh, yes she did
She was SO consistent about it too! This wasn’t just a “snap from pressure.” She was telling him to do it for days. She wanted this dude dead.
@@melodyjane630 uhh she did when she told him to get back in the car, you not watch the entire video?
Honestly suicide is tricky I don't think anyone should be forced to live and I also think that no one should be convinced to go through it. We should encourage others to continue to fight on.
Michelle Carter & Conrad Roy were sending thousands of text messages. She could have told him to tell his parents and she knew Conrad had problems. She was in prison and now she out of prison and living her life. Conrad Roy is gone.. so sad.
The whole story is sad for everyone involved.
Think about those words...I COULDN'T HAVE HIM LIVING LIKE HE WAS....I COULDN'T HAVE HIM LIVING...He TRIED to live. He was vulnerable and she took advantage of it. She should be in jail.
*Who are these people!?*
Teenagers where the gf told him to kill himself
This young mens death doesn’t sit right with me, I’ve cried watching the Hulu serie Such a heartbreaking unnecessary death and the fact that she’s out free makes more unsettling, My heart goes out to he’s family I so wish he would’ve never listened to that girl when she said to him to get back in the car I swear that was the devils work, Rest Peacefully Conrad🌹
What is the name of the series?
@@LaMuffin-il7ei name pops up around 7.30 in the video on the top left
Oh, no. She didn't kill anyone. She's just a little Angel.
...an angel of Death..
Judgments will affect the mind also .
The downfall of Gullible Gems
I don’t this is the first time this was done, folks just haven’t been caught! I also mean before cell phones 📱 folks get that call at 2 am from a friend. How many help them thru it and just how many didn’t! I guess we’ll never know!
And that's why Elle Fanning has nailed the role as Michelle Carter in the Hulu miniseries The Girl from Plainville.
Now she's a free woman. So unfair.
Jesus poor kid. He deserved so much better. I wish he could have met a sweet caring girl who would have immediately called his parents and the police. And actually been a real friend and real caring girlfriend. She’s odd looking, has a creepy look to her. Why would she do such a hideous thing? Why wouldn’t she tell him to live! Things can change so quickly. He might have overcome his depressive thoughts around a caring sane person who had his best interests at heart.
I wish every narcissist & abusive person gets justice in this way when their words & action lead to a person's death or self inflicted harm!!!
Just started this show last night .. this makes me need to go finish it more now. I remembered this case and seeing it on Hulu last night I needed to start it . The fact it’s still being talked about it good because it needs to be , she shouldn’t forget what she did. Cases of people making them kill themselves / making pacts and backing out breaks my heart because it hits too close to home .
Don’t snuff out a light that never got the chance to shine … help change the bulb(circumstances) to help them light up..
You shouldn’t support her. She’s not the victim he is and the audacity of them to make a show about it.
@@ladydeanna3775 I’m not supporting her ? I was specifically against her in what I wrote ?
@@ladydeanna3775 what are u talking about? The Hulu show is no different than this news segment lol. And neither is “supporting” Michelle Carter. And she doesn’t get any $$ from tv show. Your comment doesn’t even make sense.
@@ladydeanna3775 No one is “supporting” her by watching a television show on Hulu
@@jenniferburton7044 do you think she’s not getting a cut of the profits?
I don't know what's more wrong her getting out of jail.or people who are victimizing her.
Poor guy just did whatever this evil said 💔
He might be feeling so bad that the girl he loves wants him to die and he literally found no more reason to live 💔 wish he had some self esteem
I’m so sorry..
idk what joy this lady found in it by doing it
What a literal freak. I was in a psychotic depression. Didn’t remember my birthday. And still was doing my weekly food handout to the homeless around me. Never once would I have thought to harm anyone. Not now, or then. I only wanted to give others what I never received. I’m not bragging (you have no idea who I truly am), I’m not trying to one up anyone. But I have never, EVER EVER EVER met anyone who would even come CLOSE to what she did.
Lots of people have mental & emotional problems. But that's no excuse for torturing another mentally ill person to death. What she did was EVIL.
With friends like Michelle Carter, who needs enemies?
Suicide is caused by untreated mental illness and they actually believe their loved ones are better off without them. She reassured him of this lie and might as well have locked him in that truck herself.
Let’s be honest here! She doing all this texting cause she feels guilty & this is her way of admitting it without actually telling it to ppl
And the worst part of it all is that she is now out of jail and free to live another day, unlike him.
It's disgusting what she did. I was in her position. I talked to a guy for 4 years and the entire time he was suicidal. He threatened to do it 3 times and I talked him down. One time after 24 straight hours of trying to talk him down he took a bunch of pills while on video call with me at 3am. I called his mother, she came and got him. It was finally over, and he got hospitalized. After that we gradually grew apart and disconnected. BUT HES STILL FUCKING ALIVE. She knew exactly what she was doing telling him to go through with it, and no matter the circumstances, no matter how long they talked about it and worn down she claims those conversations made her, no one, and I mean NO ONE, would ever tell someone to GO BACK to their attempt after they changed their mind.
I feel sorry for him but I feel sorry for her. Having to put up with a suicidal man for two years takes a toll on your mental health. The parents knew he was suicidal and could’ve tried harder. He knew he was suicidal and could’ve learned how to control his mind better, like that saying ‘Control your thoughts before they control you’. She needs psycho evaluation and hella therapy but not jail time, that doesn’t solve anything
She could've just handed him a business card of a therapist. And then moved on.
"Your mental health is inconvenient for me. Die." 💅
I feel no sympathy for a monster.
Horrible what she did. Horrible that he was that depressed. He was 18. He wasn't a boy.
He was a boy u not legal and adult until ur 21 so he was still a boy