@@OdysseusofLetheYou repeating that under every comment mentioning that poor soul getting downvoted is ironic. But I doubt you are capable of seeing that irony
I claimed a Nitro gift while I already had Nitro, but it just disappeared. I’m canceling my subscription-if Discord can’t improve their support response times, they shouldn’t be selling subscriptions. Months ago, I reached out about a warning on my account and got a generic response meant for account bans, which made me think my account had been disabled. This should again represent the awful support discord offers us and they just don't do anything to solve it...
Discord support just, doesn't reply, EVER Use a VPN and they will ban you for 'ban evasion' because you got the IP someone had when they got banned. When that's clearly false, they'll bot reply and say it's true You can't even request your data at that point, they say it's a GDPR violation for you to get YOUR OWN data You literally have to take legal action to get support to reply
I have a brazilian friend and they've talked to me a bit before about how stupid expensive things can be. 1 USD dollar is roughly worth 5 BRL, but the amount of worth the currency has isn't the only factor. A paycheck of 500 USD doesn't translate to 2500 BRL in Brazil for the same job, it would still be 500 BRL, in other words they're getting payed less.
Minimum monthly wage here is ~R$1400,00, an AAA game like the new Call of Duty is generally ~R$300,00, more than 25% of a paycheck, and be aware that the minimum wage here is borderline starving.
@@normified but previously Nitro costed 19.99 PLN (which is $5), then they increased it into 47.99 PLN (which is $12, 2 dollars above the $10 mark) Also PLN is not that strong of a currency, you need to pay roughly 4 PLN to buy 1 dollar
Dude, I'm from Italy and a 4,99€ euro and my Turkish friend got the same frame for 55 or something TRY aka Turkish currency which is almost 2€ only or even less a bit.
Little clarification for 10:16 - these numbers will not necessary be same for all credit cards in the same bank. Banks have pool of numbers assigned to them
^ banks offer multiple different cards, each one gets its own BIN. when my card got stolen I got a new identical one and it had the same first set of digits, but the first card I had (which was a different card they offer) had a different BIN
The first 4 digits tell you the issuer of the card(i.e., Mastercard, Visa, American Express, etc). The next 4 digits tell you what bank and service(checking, credit, savings, etc) the card is connected to. Everything after that is a unique identifier for the card itself. I found out about the first 4 digits by using an online payment app with different cards from different companies, and once the first set of digits is input, the app automatically selects the correct issuer
@@Luci_Star755 TLDR Discord broke Anti Fraud laws. They are now trying to pass the buck to "illegal sites" When all of them were bought from discord anyway.
@Drakid13Re3kt I do the same thing and I don't know why I'm against a similar thing for discord specifically I think it has to do with discord nitro being exclusively a subscription whereas steam has a trillion little-known games and steam keys have been a thing for over a decade Discord does generally just feel like a stricter platform than steam and it probably is because discord is a social media platform first and foremost
@@Drakid13Re3kt Steam is completely different. Steam isn't the entity that you buy the games from. It's just the platform you buy the games on. But with Discord, Discord is the entity that sells you Nitro. Additionally, Steam benefits, even if you purchase games from 3rd party websites, since that brings users to their platform, meaning they can collect and sell data. And these new users will buy more games or DLCs. I mean, look at me. I originally created my Steam account to play a game I bought as disk with a key and now I have nearly 1000 games in my library. Discord only loses when you buy Nitro from a 3rd party, since they make less money from it compared to you buying it from them (or they just make none at all) and they don't really gain new customers.
@@Drakid13Re3kt And you still shouldn't be surprised if they ever get revoked. Also as my personal opinion, you're a piece of sugar honey iced tea for enabling these scams (Most of the keys on these sites are illegally bought. The ones that don't get caught just got laundered)
In short, either buy Discord Nitro legally, or don't buy it at all. You're not going to expire from this Earth if you don't have it, and you should know better than to trust grey-market resellers with your money and time.
Wow that outro had me in stitches. Also never even knew what Nitro was before this video (heard of it, never understood the point/perks) but still watched the whole thing. Kudos to you
i love the fact that in Poland you have that "localized pricing" if it comes to nitro but you actually pay 17,5% MORE than in US... so for polish citizens it's worth to buy US nitro more than their's with "local prices"
Ye even though we earn statistically less than us citizen we are getting scammed online on steam is the same. And in roblox oh boy they charge u 60 zł which is abt 14,5 dollars for 10 dollar giftcard💀. Such a scam and it gets worse if the price is bigger obviously
@@ssheeessh that’s not the solution tho, the fact that the pricing is like that is still an obvious issue and it’s not resolved by just closing your eyes
@@TamWam_ its not resolved by buying things you dont agree with the price on either. In fact it does the opposite. But keep wasting your money I dont care, just dont talk to me.
It’s impossible to guarantee the BIN lists will even work. The odds of guessing a credit card number AND the expiration date AND the CVV is very unlikely. The odds are astronomically low AND very time consuming to validate. Bots may help with generation BUT most merchants now have a captcha AND an error that occurs when you try to enter the numbers too many failed times. What I think is happening: either the discord gift database is shitting itself and discord is blaming its users OR all of the cards used to purchase nitro are skimmed (which is a major felony). The most probable of these is the gift database is shitting itself, most people that had this issue NEVER got an email about their nitro being revoked. This points to an issue on discords end, if the nitros were used with a stolen payment method there should have been an email stating that. Because the email was not sent out it makes me believe discord is pointing fingers to its users in hope that the users will not sue for refunds.
It doesn't matter. You're not trying to guess a specific card number. Just ANY card number. The odds of doing that are much higher. It's not something that always pays off but it does pay off.
@@Unethical.FandubsGames the thing is though is how large the amount of nitro is being revoked. I would estimate it would be roughly enough for a credit card company or bank to notice someone is using their BINs. Quoting the terms of service: “Our right to terminate. Subject to applicable law, we reserve the right to suspend or terminate your account and/or your access to some or all of our services with or without notice, at our discretion for any reason, or for the following reasons:” This is the equivalent of a physical merchant having a sign “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone regardless of protected status.” and because nitro is a service. Quoting the Discord PAID services terms: “Your subscription may also be terminated, in Discord’s sole discretion, if you violate the Discord Terms of Service or other published policies. If your Discord account is terminated, Discord will cancel your subscription where possible. If your subscription was purchased via mobile app stores (i.e. Apple iOS or Google Play), you are responsible for ensuring any active subscriptions are canceled. If your Discord account is terminated, you will not be entitled to a refund for any unused portion of your subscription.” Because it was a gift discord has ZERO obligation to refund you or the person who gave the “gift”. I also believe the accounts that bought the nitro gifts were terminated by discord for some reason unknown by the public.
BIN’s for specific websites mostly are exploit which you can check the credit card if its alive or dead and then if goes thru but it mostly works for free trails
@@Unethical.FandubsGames The odds of you somehow getting the correct card number, with the correct expiration date, AND CVV, is so small that you could spend several lifetimes guessing, and it'll never pay off.
You do know that G2A is famous for having a lot of its stock being bought with stolen credit cards right? They might not be guessed or they might be, but the fraud is right there.
@@ILoveTinfoilHats Are you actually dumb or what? Its hurting, you know why? Cause why do you think localized pricing exists anyway? Its cause countries have different economies. Its lower price there because thats the equivalent of their reasonable price. And what happens when richer people buy them? They'll raise prices duh (discord already raised turkey's prices from 74.99 to 104.99 lol). So what happens to the locals who want to buy them? Of course they wont buy them anymore cause the price increased duhhhh. Basic supply and demand. Not even economics bruh. This is basic common sense and more than 5 seconds of thinking
@@normified They are "scam sites" that exist almost entirely off the back of credit card fraud. Lending any legitimacy to them is how you perpetuate the scam. If you're not in a localized price region, you are attempting to pull off a scam by purchasing these products.
This happened to me back in March, a friend gifted me nitro for my birthday. They told me they didn’t even attempt to refund or chargeback. Contacted support and they told me that they basically couldn’t do anything. Lost my 2 year nitro classic streak and decided it was time to never buy nitro again. I don’t regret it though.
My husband sometimes gifts me nitro directly from discord (I don't buy it myself because I don't think it's necessary for me to have it) and I remember 2 different occasions, where I still would have a day of nitro left and he would send me another one, I would claim it, and the next day it would be gone. No chargebacks were made until that point (of course he would chargeback since he spent money on it I wouldn't get it if I claimed it "too early"). This is a massive mess. There was no emails sent to either of our emails, either. Alas, this happened a few years ago too, so it might have changed.
My first thought was key were sourced from questionable sites and inescapable chargeback that come from using their services. Some things never change.
For sellers, localised pricing is a ‘grey market’ (it’s discouraged but not illegal, so the in between of a white and black market). That’s how a fair few do it, and that’s completely legal as for all discord knows it’s just your Turkish friend (or some other country with cheap nitro/other products) giving you a birthday gift.
In general, people should probably start to get used to the reality that these resale websites that give you discount video game license keys are incredibly sketchy places and very often scammers either trying to turn stolen credit cards into cash or posing as reviewers and asking developers for free review copies.
Meanwhile Poland where the nitro is 48zł/month which is actually more than $10. The prices of digital goods here are getting out of hand lately. You know it's bad when sometimes it's cheaper to buy in Euro or especially in $US. I don't care about Discord nitro but there are some stuff I considered buying that now I don't because we get western European (or worse) prices. The only based company is Valve because the price of CSGO case keys would go up when we had insane inflation but the price would actually get adjusted down when it settles, it's true the key is still now more expensive than it once was but the prices were actually adjusted down at some point unlike shit like RP in League where once they ridiculously inflated the prices they never went down, it only gets worse, fortunately I don't play League anymore and currently their pricing is ass and the shop is filled with gacha
Man, in my day I didn't do cyber crimes as a kid...but to be fair I was too busy in Yahoo chatrooms improving my RPing and writing skins as well as learning to make websites...also it was the early 2000's...
I will 100% always issue a chargeback if I notice something sketchy. It's there to protect you while keeping companies honest and on their feet. If a company tries to use strong arm wording in their TOS to discourage you from using chargebacks then you should steer well clear from them.
Props for mentioning a BIN. I work in card processing fraud and I havent heard someone else reference a BIN on UA-cam before lol I have the BINs for like 60 banks memorized haha but yeah you really only need 8 numbers of any given card.
On discord you have a black market, there are multiple methods to get nitro. They used to sell nitro for 1.5-2.5 USD now that some illegal methods are patched the market price went up to 3.5 USD for month and 20 USD for year (used to be 10)
Dude, you may be a chronically online Discord degenerate, but I have to respect you for the amount of research you do into these situations to be able to inform us of all these details. Instead of some drama-tubers going: "Oh look guys, all your nitro is disappearing!" and never actually coming up with a conclusion or a solution.
If your credits is gone, it's that you got scammed This bug didn't happened to me Also, if you get banned from Discord, just make a new account (it's legal doing this in a lot of countries)
2 years of using nitro and seeing the amount of bullshit discord is pulling i’m ready to go back to a free user for good, yes i will struggle because i’m used to nitro but i’ll live
I reside in Turkey and use nitro, I still get charged perfectly fine, it's most definetly people buying shady nitro from some guy and then crying about it when people do chargebacks because they got effectively robbed.
Are you here just to complain? Have you watch the vid? He clearly say that pp are getting their nitro canceled cause they buy it from scam and illegal seller. Or the Turkey’s banks was canceling all their Turkey citizens’s nitro since discord is banned their now. If not then maybe you are encouraged scam and hacking? 🤷
Very important point you don't really mention in this video - I think lots of those Reddit posts were because of an actual bug where people's Nitro credits were disappearing, that I did experience myself, that happened to occur at the same time as this thing with Turkey.
It might not be mass chargebacks and rather it's something similar to a banwave, if you revoke all the nitro from people who have been getting them illegally all at once they can't pin down how you found them out. With just one or a few people banned at a time they can tell others what they did and the others will know that method is burned or that they need to find a work around. If you ban hundreds or thousands of people you've found over the last 6 months all at once, there might be several methods involved and no one will know what went wrong. Either they treat all methods as burnt or they keep using the same method hoping they don't get screwed again.
I've never understood the trust people place in digital marketplaces outside the actual marketplace. Anytime you pay less than the actual price for something, you should know that something sketchy is going on
Y'know, funny story A year ago, my discord account was hacked and unfortunately a payment of discord nitro was made on that same account I requested a chargeback, stating it was false payment (As my discord account was hacked at the time ☹) and my account did end up suspended, but after sending another forum in discord support, my account was surprisingly no longer suspended, and I was able to log back into it. Now I still use the same account 👍
6:51 Localized pricing gotta be the greatest thing ever. I only pay the equivalent of $50 a year for netflix, spotify and prime COMBINED Edit: AMAZON prime guys
i kinda like that they dont instantly ban you if you buy from those third party websites so that kids who dont know any better can actually learn their lesson
I had paid for multiple nitro boosts for servers, and canceled them a few months ago. They started renewing them when I had months of time left. Game over.
Bro didn't watch the video 💀i'll summarize it for you since you couldn't spend 10 minutes just listening: -people buy cheap 1 year discord nitro from turkish sellers, -turkey ban discord, -turkish banks chargeback discord nitro purchases, -discord revokes nitro
So how should they earn money then to pay employees and server costs? Thank the people who pay for Nitro because they are what keeps the service free for others.
So essentially, Discord isn’t stealing nitro at all it’s the users stealing them and getting sad when things go sour (crazy, buying from a 3rd party website gets you scammed/unpleasant results)
I've heard that Discord is going downhill for a while now and may be having financial issues.... I think this is their first step to try to them trying to save their dying company (Sadly, they are doing it wrong!)
Bank cards really on secret information. It's a terrible system. While for example Sweden requires 2FA (BankID) to verify your purchase. This same card can be used in a foreign store that can't be verified because they don't have the Swedish 2FA, so the purchase just goes through. Plus the additional info such as expiery and secret 3 digits on the back are just optional for stores to accept. One simple fix: at 8 more digits to the number, four of which stands for the expiry, and the other 4 are random. This makes the number harder to guess, but also requires the expiry and the additional 3 (now 4) digits to be included, and stores can't ignore that. A harder fix, but maybe we can establish that banks should verify online purchases by 2FA. It shouldn't matter which store I buy from, that store should still wait for a 2FA confirmation from my bank, otherwise my bank won't approve it.
The idea right now (not a new idea) is the more the store verifies, the less it pays for fraud. So if you have a Swedish 2FA verification, the only way it could go wrong is the bank screwed up and the bank has to pay for chargebacks. But when used in a foreign store with no expiry date or CVV, if the customer (you) says it's a fraudulent transaction, the store has to eat the cost because it's the store's fault it didn't get expiry date and CVV.
Bought nitro once the legit way, downloaded a game they promotoed on official nitro tab to get some extra items. 30 mins later my account was banned without reason and is still banned to this day without any response from discord so im never ever going to buy nitro again to support them
Something to note is false chargebacks are actually a crime, known as chargeback fraud So in the situation a discord account has a chargeback on a purchase, either A) They are committing chargeback fraud for free nitro, or B) They stole someone's credit card and its rightfully getting disputed, so someone just committed credit card fraud instead. Makes sense why they ban accounts that have chargebacks, as either way some crime is being committed. I was once scammed over a charged back nitro, but thankfully the guys account got banned, justice was served.
Had a mass hacking situation in one of the discord channels I was in. People were impersonating others with some sorta hack links in DMs and tons of people lost their accounts and nitro with nobody recovering their accounts or being refunded because of no response from Discord.
If so many people are going through 3rd party to purchase Nitro, then it seems like Discord has a pricing issue. I personally think the Nitro pricing is a bit steep. For the basic version, it's fine but I feel like I could live without. The fun stuff is on the regular Nitro, but for $10 a month, now it feels like it's not worth it at all just for some fancy custom profiles and server boosts that most people won't care. Discord needs to figure it out
@@Sasha_Prime what Could you specify If it's for the first reply: Super sigma Skibidi grind If it's for the second reply:Look at her comment "Give us our money" Our Soviet onion was some country in the past at the time of Germany stuff and they liked sharing Communi. Sm I don't remember much cuz my history test was 2 months ago but they made people split their money Like people who worked hard got payed the same money as people who worked less Equality but bad
Getting mass downvoted for being 100% correct, classic redditors. Pathetic.
Also good thing I never nor plan to spend money on discord lmfao.
Classic echochamber website
@@OdysseusofLetheYou repeating that under every comment mentioning that poor soul getting downvoted is ironic. But I doubt you are capable of seeing that irony
@peachypet808 The Odyssey had a purpose.
@@OdysseusofLethe Punishing Odysseus for a perceived crime against a narcissistic deity...
Are you saying that you pissed off a god?
@@peachypet808 The god is the one who controls the masses.
There is no such thing as freedom
I claimed a Nitro gift while I already had Nitro, but it just disappeared. I’m canceling my subscription-if Discord can’t improve their support response times, they shouldn’t be selling subscriptions.
Months ago, I reached out about a warning on my account and got a generic response meant for account bans, which made me think my account had been disabled.
This should again represent the awful support discord offers us and they just don't do anything to solve it...
skill issue ig
Nah Discord just fucking around and finding out @casixgg
Do a chargeback next time :D
"I claimed a nitro gift" sure enough thats some illegal Nitro you claimed mate
Discord support just, doesn't reply, EVER
Use a VPN and they will ban you for 'ban evasion' because you got the IP someone had when they got banned.
When that's clearly false, they'll bot reply and say it's true
You can't even request your data at that point, they say it's a GDPR violation for you to get YOUR OWN data
You literally have to take legal action to get support to reply
Just happened to me, i had 8 months of credit and now it disappeared. I love Discord!
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😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
ngl i dont feel bad for you ur an idiot to even buy nitro
real..
I have a brazilian friend and they've talked to me a bit before about how stupid expensive things can be. 1 USD dollar is roughly worth 5 BRL, but the amount of worth the currency has isn't the only factor. A paycheck of 500 USD doesn't translate to 2500 BRL in Brazil for the same job, it would still be 500 BRL, in other words they're getting payed less.
????!?!!
that should be illegal. that's so unfair
it is. and it's even worse in some places
@@AGamer_2010In Argentina we pay taxes for everything in dollars so 1 dollar can become 2 or more, unless regional pricing is added.
Minimum monthly wage here is ~R$1400,00, an AAA game like the new Call of Duty is generally ~R$300,00, more than 25% of a paycheck, and be aware that the minimum wage here is borderline starving.
i cant believe discord nitro is MORE expensive in poland than in US???? I FEEL SCAMMED???
That's just how economics works. Prices are almost always adjusted per country. You aren't actually "paying more/less" most of the time.
@@normifiedbut salaries in the US are higher than in Poland, how does this make sense?
@@normifiedits 10usd in USA and 12usd in Poland, 12usd>10usd
@@normified but previously Nitro costed 19.99 PLN (which is $5), then they increased it into 47.99 PLN (which is $12, 2 dollars above the $10 mark)
Also PLN is not that strong of a currency, you need to pay roughly 4 PLN to buy 1 dollar
Dude, I'm from Italy and a 4,99€ euro and my Turkish friend got the same frame for 55 or something TRY aka Turkish currency which is almost 2€ only or even less a bit.
Little clarification for 10:16 - these numbers will not necessary be same for all credit cards in the same bank. Banks have pool of numbers assigned to them
^ banks offer multiple different cards, each one gets its own BIN. when my card got stolen I got a new identical one and it had the same first set of digits, but the first card I had (which was a different card they offer) had a different BIN
I got quite a lot of cards from the same company, and the first 4 digits were the same each time. The next 2 were in different matching sets.
The first 4 digits tell you the issuer of the card(i.e., Mastercard, Visa, American Express, etc). The next 4 digits tell you what bank and service(checking, credit, savings, etc) the card is connected to. Everything after that is a unique identifier for the card itself.
I found out about the first 4 digits by using an online payment app with different cards from different companies, and once the first set of digits is input, the app automatically selects the correct issuer
TL;DR: People bought stolen nitro gifts and complained when they got revoked.
Thank you.😭
thank you
Sounds more like people bought nitro and discord is full of retarded devs and greedy slimy lil guys.
@@Luci_Star755 TLDR Discord broke Anti Fraud laws. They are now trying to pass the buck to "illegal sites" When all of them were bought from discord anyway.
NTTS is a discord kitten in secret
It ain't no secret anymore at this point 😅
No secret anymore we already know
Its not secret lol
@@itsmenatikahey baby girl
@@ZDTF💀
Buying Nitro might be one of the dumbest ways of burning money
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if you think this then you're not imaginative enough
@@anaveragekiwi nah nitro is so useless
But... But, how would I be able to send the custom big chungus emoji to my kitten 😧
@@johnyjakey1488 ok but if you genuinely can't think of worse ways to spend your money then you're not imagining hard enough
Me when I buy a subscription service from a 3rd party website and I'm surprised that the 1st party website is upset with that
this is why steam is the goat because a good 70% of the games i own come from a third party and I've never had a game removed from my account
@Drakid13Re3kt I do the same thing and I don't know why I'm against a similar thing for discord specifically
I think it has to do with discord nitro being exclusively a subscription whereas steam has a trillion little-known games and steam keys have been a thing for over a decade
Discord does generally just feel like a stricter platform than steam and it probably is because discord is a social media platform first and foremost
Issue is your not charge backing those games are you @@Drakid13Re3kt
@@Drakid13Re3kt Steam is completely different. Steam isn't the entity that you buy the games from. It's just the platform you buy the games on. But with Discord, Discord is the entity that sells you Nitro.
Additionally, Steam benefits, even if you purchase games from 3rd party websites, since that brings users to their platform, meaning they can collect and sell data. And these new users will buy more games or DLCs. I mean, look at me. I originally created my Steam account to play a game I bought as disk with a key and now I have nearly 1000 games in my library. Discord only loses when you buy Nitro from a 3rd party, since they make less money from it compared to you buying it from them (or they just make none at all) and they don't really gain new customers.
@@Drakid13Re3kt And you still shouldn't be surprised if they ever get revoked.
Also as my personal opinion, you're a piece of sugar honey iced tea for enabling these scams (Most of the keys on these sites are illegally bought. The ones that don't get caught just got laundered)
In short, either buy Discord Nitro legally, or don't buy it at all. You're not going to expire from this Earth if you don't have it, and you should know better than to trust grey-market resellers with your money and time.
Buy legally? Me no Bill Gates
@@cibularas3485 Then don't buy at all.
@@cibularas3485 you no bill gates, you no need nitro
NOOO I NEEEED IT HELP
@@cibularas3485 then don't buy it
Wow that outro had me in stitches. Also never even knew what Nitro was before this video (heard of it, never understood the point/perks) but still watched the whole thing. Kudos to you
i love the fact that in Poland you have that "localized pricing" if it comes to nitro but you actually pay 17,5% MORE than in US... so for polish citizens it's worth to buy US nitro more than their's with "local prices"
Ye even though we earn statistically less than us citizen we are getting scammed online on steam is the same. And in roblox oh boy they charge u 60 zł which is abt 14,5 dollars for 10 dollar giftcard💀. Such a scam and it gets worse if the price is bigger obviously
@@BARTEFI stop spending money on discord and roblox then? wish we had more bullies in the world.
@@ssheeessh that’s not the solution tho, the fact that the pricing is like that is still an obvious issue and it’s not resolved by just closing your eyes
@@TamWam_ its not resolved by buying things you dont agree with the price on either. In fact it does the opposite. But keep wasting your money I dont care, just dont talk to me.
this video is just a cover for NTTS to flex on his 22 years of nitro
wait
crazy to think someone would pay discord for 2 decades peak incel behavior
discord changed turkey's pricing from 74.99 a month to 104.99 TL a month and 1,049.99 TL a year btw
Eh discord is banned anyway
a increase of whole 3 cents!
100 lira da verirsin mk 30 lira icin ağlıyon
@@suruneimore like 1 dollars
Fuck turkey anyways😭😂
It’s impossible to guarantee the BIN lists will even work. The odds of guessing a credit card number AND the expiration date AND the CVV is very unlikely. The odds are astronomically low AND very time consuming to validate. Bots may help with generation BUT most merchants now have a captcha AND an error that occurs when you try to enter the numbers too many failed times.
What I think is happening: either the discord gift database is shitting itself and discord is blaming its users OR all of the cards used to purchase nitro are skimmed (which is a major felony).
The most probable of these is the gift database is shitting itself, most people that had this issue NEVER got an email about their nitro being revoked. This points to an issue on discords end, if the nitros were used with a stolen payment method there should have been an email stating that. Because the email was not sent out it makes me believe discord is pointing fingers to its users in hope that the users will not sue for refunds.
It doesn't matter.
You're not trying to guess a specific card number. Just ANY card number.
The odds of doing that are much higher.
It's not something that always pays off but it does pay off.
@@Unethical.FandubsGames the thing is though is how large the amount of nitro is being revoked. I would estimate it would be roughly enough for a credit card company or bank to notice someone is using their BINs.
Quoting the terms of service:
“Our right to terminate. Subject to applicable law, we reserve the right to suspend or terminate your account and/or your access to some or all of our services with or without notice, at our discretion for any reason, or for the following reasons:”
This is the equivalent of a physical merchant having a sign “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone regardless of protected status.” and because nitro is a service.
Quoting the Discord PAID services terms:
“Your subscription may also be terminated, in Discord’s sole discretion, if you violate the Discord Terms of Service or other published policies. If your Discord account is terminated, Discord will cancel your subscription where possible. If your subscription was purchased via mobile app stores (i.e. Apple iOS or Google Play), you are responsible for ensuring any active subscriptions are canceled. If your Discord account is terminated, you will not be entitled to a refund for any unused portion of your subscription.”
Because it was a gift discord has ZERO obligation to refund you or the person who gave the “gift”. I also believe the accounts that bought the nitro gifts were terminated by discord for some reason unknown by the public.
BIN’s for specific websites mostly are exploit which you can check the credit card if its alive or dead and then if goes thru but it mostly works for free trails
@@Unethical.FandubsGames The odds of you somehow getting the correct card number, with the correct expiration date, AND CVV, is so small that you could spend several lifetimes guessing, and it'll never pay off.
You do know that G2A is famous for having a lot of its stock being bought with stolen credit cards right? They might not be guessed or they might be, but the fraud is right there.
9:00 not everyone. Localized price abuse is accelerating the Turkish economic crash, and also making less online services available to us.
How would it be hurting. If anything, it's helping. It increases demand for the Liba, therefore increasing its value. Basic supply and demand.
@@ILoveTinfoilHats Not really how that works. I assume you meant Lira, too.
@@ILoveTinfoilHats actually take the time to know the demand's currency before ur dumbass even thinks of supplying
@@ILoveTinfoilHats Are you actually dumb or what? Its hurting, you know why? Cause why do you think localized pricing exists anyway? Its cause countries have different economies. Its lower price there because thats the equivalent of their reasonable price. And what happens when richer people buy them? They'll raise prices duh (discord already raised turkey's prices from 74.99 to 104.99 lol). So what happens to the locals who want to buy them? Of course they wont buy them anymore cause the price increased duhhhh. Basic supply and demand. Not even economics bruh. This is basic common sense and more than 5 seconds of thinking
People buying shit on scam sites and wondering why it disappear (like the big ban on sims3/4 dlc's a while back).
They're not "scam sites", they just host people who sell illegally-gained copies. You can get legitimate copies for most things.
@@normified They are "scam sites" that exist almost entirely off the back of credit card fraud. Lending any legitimacy to them is how you perpetuate the scam.
If you're not in a localized price region, you are attempting to pull off a scam by purchasing these products.
@@normified isnt ilegal stuff still kind of a scam?
@@normified most of the shit on there are scams or illegal.
@@normified why are you trying so hard to defend scams
This reminds me of the spongebob episode where mr krabs gets tons of money, and then at the end everyone angrily steals the money back
They stole credit card info > Buy Nitro cards > resell.
so basicly g2a?
This happened to me back in March, a friend gifted me nitro for my birthday. They told me they didn’t even attempt to refund or chargeback.
Contacted support and they told me that they basically couldn’t do anything. Lost my 2 year nitro classic streak and decided it was time to never buy nitro again. I don’t regret it though.
feels good getting banned on those e-girl servers for being too based
My husband sometimes gifts me nitro directly from discord (I don't buy it myself because I don't think it's necessary for me to have it) and I remember 2 different occasions, where I still would have a day of nitro left and he would send me another one, I would claim it, and the next day it would be gone. No chargebacks were made until that point (of course he would chargeback since he spent money on it I wouldn't get it if I claimed it "too early"). This is a massive mess. There was no emails sent to either of our emails, either. Alas, this happened a few years ago too, so it might have changed.
My first thought was key were sourced from questionable sites and inescapable chargeback that come from using their services. Some things never change.
For sellers, localised pricing is a ‘grey market’ (it’s discouraged but not illegal, so the in between of a white and black market). That’s how a fair few do it, and that’s completely legal as for all discord knows it’s just your Turkish friend (or some other country with cheap nitro/other products) giving you a birthday gift.
In general, people should probably start to get used to the reality that these resale websites that give you discount video game license keys are incredibly sketchy places and very often scammers either trying to turn stolen credit cards into cash or posing as reviewers and asking developers for free review copies.
Bro I'm just seeing this right now AND MY FOOD IS NOT DONE. I refuse to watch this video while my food is cooking. I guess I'll wait.
mood
is it done?
R u watch it rn?
@@Williamkas1 Yep, eating my nice cheesy noodles im like 4 or 5 minutes in rn ❣❣
@@cruckian Yep, eating my nice cheesy noodles im like 4 or 5 minutes in rn ❣❣
Thanks for the comprehensive guide on international financial fraud
Meanwhile Poland where the nitro is 48zł/month which is actually more than $10. The prices of digital goods here are getting out of hand lately. You know it's bad when sometimes it's cheaper to buy in Euro or especially in $US. I don't care about Discord nitro but there are some stuff I considered buying that now I don't because we get western European (or worse) prices. The only based company is Valve because the price of CSGO case keys would go up when we had insane inflation but the price would actually get adjusted down when it settles, it's true the key is still now more expensive than it once was but the prices were actually adjusted down at some point unlike shit like RP in League where once they ridiculously inflated the prices they never went down, it only gets worse, fortunately I don't play League anymore and currently their pricing is ass and the shop is filled with gacha
idk whats up with eurotrash and cs:go.. and you like LoL? yikes bro
Man, in my day I didn't do cyber crimes as a kid...but to be fair I was too busy in Yahoo chatrooms improving my RPing and writing skins as well as learning to make websites...also it was the early 2000's...
Me who never buys nitro and only gets a chance once a year when there's a free trial watching the video : Hmm Okay.
I’ve been here for a few months, and I don’t even use Discord. You’re vids are just interesting I could watch them all day.😭
I will 100% always issue a chargeback if I notice something sketchy. It's there to protect you while keeping companies honest and on their feet. If a company tries to use strong arm wording in their TOS to discourage you from using chargebacks then you should steer well clear from them.
4:08, please tell me that's a fake video lol. That's $191,750 over 27 years 😧
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The hackers must have been upset to realize my card was already overcharged and they couldn’t afford discord nitro gift
Props for mentioning a BIN. I work in card processing fraud and I havent heard someone else reference a BIN on UA-cam before lol I have the BINs for like 60 banks memorized haha but yeah you really only need 8 numbers of any given card.
discord not tryna eat nitro for breakfast
Never known discord would steals your nitro Thanks for the information!
Honestly I'm surprised they also removed gifts that were claimed like 5 months ago
this guy post faster than my dirreah on taco Tuesday
real
2:42 +CHARGEBACK
+RICOSHOT
+COUNTERRICOSHOT
+ULTRARICOSHOT
Happend to me, thanks for keeping us up to date
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On discord you have a black market, there are multiple methods to get nitro. They used to sell nitro for 1.5-2.5 USD now that some illegal methods are patched the market price went up to 3.5 USD for month and 20 USD for year (used to be 10)
The Turky video was the first of you videos ever recomendet to me ^^
Hope you can also talk about the false child safety ban wave that occurred last month and the month before
Dude, you may be a chronically online Discord degenerate, but I have to respect you for the amount of research you do into these situations to be able to inform us of all these details. Instead of some drama-tubers going: "Oh look guys, all your nitro is disappearing!" and never actually coming up with a conclusion or a solution.
Give me your money
No
**hollow purple**
AA AAAAAAA
Congrats on 1 million subs NTTS ❤
If your credits is gone, it's that you got scammed
This bug didn't happened to me
Also, if you get banned from Discord, just make a new account (it's legal doing this in a lot of countries)
I just knew chargebacks would be involved in this, speaking as someone who used to work in chargebacks!
i dont have this issue because i never had and never will have nitro.
Me too
if u buy nitro normally u dont get credit thus u cant loose it
2 years of using nitro and seeing the amount of bullshit discord is pulling i’m ready to go back to a free user for good, yes i will struggle because i’m used to nitro but i’ll live
Why does Polish nitro cost 119$ for a year????
7:40 People in US are buying keys in Turkey while people in Poland would like to pay same what US pays... ($9.99 is 40PLN, not 48PLN)
Now i cant upload images of trees since they are too large for Discord to handle
I reside in Turkey and use nitro, I still get charged perfectly fine, it's most definetly people buying shady nitro from some guy and then crying about it when people do chargebacks because they got effectively robbed.
Your talking about tukey when its blocked in turkey, i wish roblox and discord is back there🤝🤝
i always wondered how things like g2a could be illegal or how they could sell so cheap lol this makes sooo much more sense!
God forbid I actually get to keep something I paid for. I’m sick of companies straight up abusing our money
Are you here just to complain? Have you watch the vid? He clearly say that pp are getting their nitro canceled cause they buy it from scam and illegal seller. Or the Turkey’s banks was canceling all their Turkey citizens’s nitro since discord is banned their now. If not then maybe you are encouraged scam and hacking? 🤷
@ yeah I did write this before I finished the video. I couldn’t find the comment to fix it lol thanks for helping me
bro why did i laugh so hard when you said "awww, I'm in the Canadian version again"
1:00 we found bros paypal
bros got eyes like a eagle I wasn't even looking at that I was looking at his mouse lol
thats just his email
@@TabbedOutLOLand his paypal
He already showed it publicly on other vids
@@LilShyme lol
Very important point you don't really mention in this video - I think lots of those Reddit posts were because of an actual bug where people's Nitro credits were disappearing, that I did experience myself, that happened to occur at the same time as this thing with Turkey.
Are those 2 dollars really so important that you're going to download shit from sketchy websites?
It might not be mass chargebacks and rather it's something similar to a banwave, if you revoke all the nitro from people who have been getting them illegally all at once they can't pin down how you found them out.
With just one or a few people banned at a time they can tell others what they did and the others will know that method is burned or that they need to find a work around.
If you ban hundreds or thousands of people you've found over the last 6 months all at once, there might be several methods involved and no one will know what went wrong.
Either they treat all methods as burnt or they keep using the same method hoping they don't get screwed again.
Discord is stealing your sanity too
I've been featured in the video🥰, never thought that it would happen
4:23 why did he sound so sad 😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I've never understood the trust people place in digital marketplaces outside the actual marketplace. Anytime you pay less than the actual price for something, you should know that something sketchy is going on
wow 3 video promotions in one video... they grow up so fast...
We're getting robbed with this one 🔥🔥🔥‼️🗣️
Babe wake tf up new NTTS vid just dropped.
Y'know, funny story
A year ago, my discord account was hacked and unfortunately a payment of discord nitro was made on that same account
I requested a chargeback, stating it was false payment (As my discord account was hacked at the time ☹) and my account did end up suspended, but after sending another forum in discord support, my account was surprisingly no longer suspended, and I was able to log back into it.
Now I still use the same account 👍
6:51
Localized pricing gotta be the greatest thing ever.
I only pay the equivalent of $50 a year for netflix, spotify and prime COMBINED
Edit: AMAZON prime guys
Prime? KSI's drink?
@@sidboypampu
Dawg
Amazon Prime
Amazon prime genius
ima need info on how to do this for netflix, their price is insane for the US 4k plan, for only 1 person (it made sense when it was multi-household).
@@sidboypampu the brainrot has consumed you, its too late.
i kinda like that they dont instantly ban you if you buy from those third party websites so that kids who dont know any better can actually learn their lesson
Jokes on them I don’t got nitro💀💀💀💀💀
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@@notcashlolwhat is . For
@@FpsIsCrazy makes it look like somebody replied and you fell for it
@ ah
@ ye
I had paid for multiple nitro boosts for servers, and canceled them a few months ago. They started renewing them when I had months of time left. Game over.
5:48 you kinda soft doxxed yourself I think by showing your zip code on the order screen 👀 great video though bro!
Don't worry, he's in canada. Zip code isn't his location.
There’s like 7 people in Canada. It’s not like the USA where there’s millions of people in hundreds of cities alone.
he uses a vpn
@@keiffermaynard3384the worst part is i cant tell if this is a joke
@@fusion.studioX I know what you mean.
you can judge me how you want but Teamspeak 3 never let me and my squad down since over ten years
I didn't watch the video, so I'll say that profile frames got banned idk
gotta love the 10 dollar profile frames!! (get them for only 8.99 with nitro!!)
you didnt even watch the video lmao
Bro didn't watch the video 💀i'll summarize it for you since you couldn't spend 10 minutes just listening:
-people buy cheap 1 year discord nitro from turkish sellers,
-turkey ban discord,
-turkish banks chargeback discord nitro purchases,
-discord revokes nitro
original comment was about "discord stealing nitro from the people"
After showing me the vencord Plugin about 1 years ago, I never thought about buying nitro since.
Imagine trying to help out by saying something that's true just to be told you're wrong and mass downvoted so you have to pull up a source😂😂
I'M CRYING THE MSG HE LEFT AFTER SAYING BYE BYE AND GIVING A BYE KISS, THAT'S TAKING ME OUT
Burning money on Discord of all places is what's wrong in the first place, regardless of having the money or not.
So how should they earn money then to pay employees and server costs?
Thank the people who pay for Nitro because they are what keeps the service free for others.
Bro legit. I'd rather everyone drop nitro and teach discord a lesson. They've been greedy maxing for a few years now
@@jasperhuiskes8737they already steal our info. They dont need anything else
So essentially, Discord isn’t stealing nitro at all it’s the users stealing them and getting sad when things go sour (crazy, buying from a 3rd party website gets you scammed/unpleasant results)
How dare UA-cam gatekeep this from me for 3 minutes
youtubes push notifications are slow as hell
I've heard that Discord is going downhill for a while now and may be having financial issues.... I think this is their first step to try to them trying to save their dying company (Sadly, they are doing it wrong!)
Well i still live in turkey, and my Discord Nitro is still active. And i know of it, dont tell my Government pls...
Bank cards really on secret information. It's a terrible system. While for example Sweden requires 2FA (BankID) to verify your purchase. This same card can be used in a foreign store that can't be verified because they don't have the Swedish 2FA, so the purchase just goes through. Plus the additional info such as expiery and secret 3 digits on the back are just optional for stores to accept.
One simple fix: at 8 more digits to the number, four of which stands for the expiry, and the other 4 are random. This makes the number harder to guess, but also requires the expiry and the additional 3 (now 4) digits to be included, and stores can't ignore that.
A harder fix, but maybe we can establish that banks should verify online purchases by 2FA. It shouldn't matter which store I buy from, that store should still wait for a 2FA confirmation from my bank, otherwise my bank won't approve it.
The idea right now (not a new idea) is the more the store verifies, the less it pays for fraud. So if you have a Swedish 2FA verification, the only way it could go wrong is the bank screwed up and the bank has to pay for chargebacks. But when used in a foreign store with no expiry date or CVV, if the customer (you) says it's a fraudulent transaction, the store has to eat the cost because it's the store's fault it didn't get expiry date and CVV.
@thewhitefalcon8539 That does makes sense, that would be an incentive to add it. I hope my ideas are still valid for consideration.
Bought nitro once the legit way, downloaded a game they promotoed on official nitro tab to get some extra items. 30 mins later my account was banned without reason and is still banned to this day without any response from discord so im never ever going to buy nitro again to support them
Should've chargebacked
what a way to leave out 90% of the story lmao
Totally happened
then the discord admins clapped
Sure buddy. I’ve bought nitro from discord for the last 4 years and never had any issues. So tell me how that’s possible?
Something to note is false chargebacks are actually a crime, known as chargeback fraud
So in the situation a discord account has a chargeback on a purchase, either A) They are committing chargeback fraud for free nitro, or B) They stole someone's credit card and its rightfully getting disputed, so someone just committed credit card fraud instead.
Makes sense why they ban accounts that have chargebacks, as either way some crime is being committed. I was once scammed over a charged back nitro, but thankfully the guys account got banned, justice was served.
Thank you pookie bear for the updates
Had a mass hacking situation in one of the discord channels I was in. People were impersonating others with some sorta hack links in DMs and tons of people lost their accounts and nitro with nobody recovering their accounts or being refunded because of no response from Discord.
Bro get some sleep 6:27
How did bro use discord for 26 hours in one day 😭
At this point I don't even know if he's joking about the ''I need professional help'' anymore...
4:45 bro is telling, that he spends his life in discord and after that shows this. The thing is that Nitro Classic was removded in 2019 or so
If so many people are going through 3rd party to purchase Nitro, then it seems like Discord has a pricing issue. I personally think the Nitro pricing is a bit steep. For the basic version, it's fine but I feel like I could live without. The fun stuff is on the regular Nitro, but for $10 a month, now it feels like it's not worth it at all just for some fancy custom profiles and server boosts that most people won't care. Discord needs to figure it out
Buying nitro is bad and dumb enough for a human to do, but taking away someone's purchased pointless pixel garbage is even worse.
I've had bots takeover my acc and spend 120$ on nitro, dixcird pretty much paid it back when I told them I was going to talk to a lawyer.
Tl:dr? Discord is saying "stop cheaping us out and being an a**hole, and give us our money"
Hello holy beauty
Our?
*Soveit meme*
@@ZDTF what
@@Sasha_Prime what
Could you specify
If it's for the first reply:
Super sigma Skibidi grind
If it's for the second reply:Look at her comment
"Give us our money"
Our
Soviet onion was some country in the past at the time of Germany stuff and they liked sharing
Communi. Sm
I don't remember much cuz my history test was 2 months ago but they made people split their money
Like people who worked hard got payed the same money as people who worked less
Equality but bad
"give us OUR money"
discord doesn't own your money bruh
After I got hacked a few years ago, I became so paranoid that I stopped paying for Nitro. Best decision I ever made.