Suzuki Burgman 650 Executive | Top 5 things I love
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- Suzuki Burgman 650 Executive | Top 5 things I love: Having ridden the Suzuki flagship maxi-scoot as a daily rider for a few days now I'm getting to understand it's finer points. In this video I reveal the top 5 things I love about the bike...
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I love my 650 Burgmann, its been my sole means of transport for the past three years and i couldnt be happier.
As TMF has said, it's a decent touring bike. The wife and I have done 2 continental tours on our 07 model, each time for a fortnight and about 3000 miles. Very comfy, cruise at 75mph no bother at all. Can get 95% of our luggage under the seat and the rest goes in a small bag strapped to back of passenger backrest. Will go again on it without hesitation as way more comfy than most bikes.
Have you had to do anything to the standard rear shock when touring with a pillion and luggage? Thanks.
The power is truly amazing. Smooth like a turbine. Just give the throttle a twist and in the blink of an eye your at 70 mph! Your Top 5 Things are spot on!! Thanks for the review.
Glad we concur!
Two wheels is two wheels in my eyes. You can’t beat the feeling being at one with the machine with all that open sky above you. Motorbike or scooter! More people need to get on two wheels!
Agreed!
opichocal
@Raden Sulaksana just not the same 🤷🏻♂️
I have 5 motorcycles and 1 scooter... the scooter collects the most miles.
After almost 30K miles on my 2017 model I am in complete agreement with TMF. They're a much underated bike. In a perfect world they would have electronic cruise control and 1 more gallon of gas but even as they are, they're still a great bike. I don't know of many other bikes that have the features found on the Burgman as standard. Get over the ego thing about riding a bike you don't need to shift and just enjoy the ride. 🛵
I had an 04 and now have a 09. Absolutely love them.
You're absolutely right about these top 5. Cheers from France, 2010 Burgman 650 executive.
Very cool, TMF. And you didn’t even mention the room it has for a full set of drums! 🏍👍🏍
Very much enjoy your reviews! One thing you did not mention is that the Burgman 650 has overdrive. Once at highway speed, all you do is put the bike into manual mode. The bike will then be in 5th gear. Then press the manual switch up one more time and you will be in 6th gear. The rpms will drop by about 400. At 70 mph the engine is hardly working. One should remember to only use overdrive at speeds higher than 60 mph. The engine to transmission ratios on this bike are amazing! Pure efficiency!
cheers Greg, done over 4k on mine, and never picked up on that... will try out at weekend, thank you. Love my Burgervan as a tourer - only limitation is no off roading, however, the older i get, the less that appeals any way! ride safe
Thanks for another great review TMF. One of these would be perfect for commuting with something else in the garage for weekend blasts as you say. Keep up the good work sir.
Thank you Pastie...
All the reasons I bought one and continue to ride it. Much better machines than most bikers give them credit for being. Took mine to the farmyard party a couple of weeks back. Great load Lugger.
August 2020, Mi 2008 Burgman 400AN was stolen from my apt building......On Feb1st I bought a Blue 2012 650 Executive I got it shipped from Caledonia, WI to Michigan....6900 Miles... im adding a $900 stereo system installation... the coldest bike on the streets....IN MINT CONDITION!!!!
Glad you like it.
I'm from Brazil bought a Burgman 650 2019 matte black
Great to see you have the 650 Burgman on loan, my new one is being delivered by the dealer tomorrow, really looking forward to having a scooter in the garage. I'll look forward to your final thoughts on the scooter. I know the official RRP is very steep but dealers are doing great deals at the moment with very low interest finance or if preferred, low interest on PCP deals, so you can actually get a new 650 Burgman on the road for far less than the RRP so hopefully the Suzuki quoted price won't put too many people off from trying to strike a deal
I’m a fan of these too TMF, would definitely have one for nipping about on...if I ever get rid of my little white van!😉
dont say i did not warn you about this bike you will want one when it goes. i went to italy 2 times on mine.
The one thing I miss from having my Honda PCX is the ease of going down the supermarket. I have a Versys x300 now which I can strap a bag on the luggage shelf behind the seat, but still more of a palaver than just lifting up the seat. Amersham still looks lovely, I see. Never seems to change, thankfully!
I wish they would make 1000 CC Suzuki Burgman Scooters
Exactly
650 is plenty
Smooth ride 😎
Thanks the update, great vid
Thanks for watching Toria!
I ride a 2006 Honda Silverwing 600 scooter. I love the excellent weather protection. Riding in the rain, you are enveloped by the front fairing so rain stays off of you, as long as you're riding. Also with the foot boards up front my boots do not get wet what so ever with the road spray like a motorcycle would. The only complaint that I have is the wee 14 inch wheels. Makes for a rougher ride, and harder to balance at slow speeds. I am considering a Suzuki Bergman.
My friend has a Silverwing and he is also considering getting a Burgman, but to me the Silverwing looks more sporty.
Well done to you I've been riding for years and currently commute on a Honda x11 and a Burgman 400 z I just wish motorcyclist could see the benefits of any 2 wheeler,keep up the good work and maybe some reviews on some older bikes,
They're the best kept motorcycle secret. Glad you're enjoying!
TMF, great review as usual on a great bike - and I say that because I have one. In answer to some of the comments about the price, the well known saying is 'you get what you pay for', and what you get with this machine is everything you've mentioned here and more, much more. I've had mine for just over a year now, from new, and I've already clocked up over 8500 miles and I can honestly say I've enjoyed every single mile! Your top 5 are pretty much the same for me too. I test rode an MT09 recently and on the same day an FJR 1300 and I still preferred everything about my Burgman - and like you said, comfort being the main reason. I love that I can fold my mirrors in to filter. I love that I can store my lid under the seat instead of having to carry it around wherever I go. I love that I can charge my phone while on a ride out. I love that I can switch on the heated seats/grips if it gets chilly and what I love the most is the power this not-so-little 650cc bike has. But unlike you I think she's a great looking bike - to compare her to a beluga whale does her an injustice, but we can't all like the same things. It's what makes the world go round, innit! :-) Cheers TMF, always a pleasure watching your vids.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
I agree I have a 2017 in Pearl white and she is sexy looking, also like the changes they made to the tail end starting in 2013. ✌️
As you say "As comfortable as a car" but that was the whole idea behind the design of the first Vespa. If I remember correctly, the engineer, Corradino DAscanio hated motorcycles, which he considered dirty and uncomfortable, and designed the Vespa to be more like buying a two wheeled car, without the maintenance, grease, and road dirt.
You've concisely captured the essence of the Big Burger. It's a superb long distance tourer too - much more graceful than a Beluga has any right to be.
And you referred to it as a BIKE! I think that was the most telling part of your review. Ride one and see the prejudices evaporate!
Nice one, TMF 👍
Cheers Keith!
Ian Mann
When I owned a Burgman 650 I did have a large top box fitted because my Burger was an early model which lacked the fitted backrest. My wife said she was very comfortable on the pillion and actually used to fall asleep there - hence the box!
Most of the time I didn't need the extra storage because the underseat cargo hold was cavernous.
Hope that helps.
What I like about the British colloquial term "motorbike" is that it covers traditional manual shifted step over motorcycles AND auto trans step through scooters. Here in the USA, people only call motorcycles, "bikes". And like Big Keith said, we like to hear you all refer to our Burgmans as bikes. Even though you British are just naturally using your terminology, to our American ears, it's like elevating the Burg to the same street cred that motorcycles have--something we'll never hear from the haters on this side of the pond.
@Expat Biker better than just about any motorcycle I'd wager
I,ve had a 2010 model for 10 yrs and love it, i would,nt hesitate to buy another, love it at the lights when you turn on the power mode and twist the throttle.🤪🤪
Congrats on 75k, Almost makes me want to give a scooter a go!
Supremely comfortable, emminently practical, manouverable, feels light, pulls like a train....the thinking man's two wheeler?
Maybe?
Definitely!
After watching Ryan F9's and your review decided to get one. Had to hunt one all throughout Australia. Finally found one which is coming home next week 😁
Thank you so much for reviewing this one! I was super curious about your thoughts on it. I guess my only two questions about it are: how does it handle floods, and how does it handle large speed bumps.
Absolutely love your channel.
Thanks for watching - more to come on this puppy yet!
Looking forward to it, as always!
Hi TMF great video as usual :-) Could you test a Piaggio MP3 if you get the opportunity I would love to see the comparison to normal maxi scoots
Still using and enjoying my FJS600 silverwing on a weekly basis, unless it's one of those rare nice days then the Ninja comes out to play:)
Cool vid matey, i prefer the look of the TMax myself.
I’ve owned a plethora of ‘maxi scoots’ over the years (Giles nexus 500, Peugeot satelis 500, Aprilia Atlantic sprint 500, Honda silverwing 600 and a Suzuki Burgman 650 which I bought an exdemo model 2008) the only things that have changed since I owned my burgman are you know get heated seats and grips as standard! Plus the newer models are more fuel efficient, it does feel more motorcycle like than a normal maxi scooter due to the way the engine is mounted and is not as willowy as the others. I’ve been through France a Belgium a couple of times on the burgman camping and it was loaded with everything I needed and more, but thanks to its large under seat storage and strapping my tent etc to the back seat I was able to leave the back box empty for my helmet etc when we stopped for lunch etc. So she will tour comfortably, they’re quick and nimble, comfy on a long trip. I part exchanged my Silverwing when buying mine and rode up from leafy Surrey to Bolton to do the swap on cold February morning, the ride back was so different to the ride on the Silverwing. Great vlog reminding me of what I’m missing, I ride a BMW R1200RT at the moment and was looking to get another scoot as my commute to work has changed so I’m looking at the Burgman or hondas ADV 750... stay upright and ride safe!!
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Hi all. I can't believe i have tracked one down. 7 years old with 1600 miles on it. Genuine. Just needs a clean. Had to use battery jump. And it just started first time.
I think the burgman looks awesome! Love mine!
What bike are you riding? You should mention at least once, it is the Suzuki burgman 650 executive.
Nowadays definitely the scooters are amazing .
I started with a piaggio 150 , then I bought a suzuki sv650 and believe me , I still miss my little machine .
Probably my next purchase it will be another scooter , but this time will be 1 of the maxi scooters.
Great review on the Suzuki 650 Burgerman but can I add the 3 things I hate... the price, the weight and the price! ... but I do love my Honda 300 Forza.
Thanks for the vid, it's my intention to get a Bergman in the next few months as my wife can no longer hang on to the back on a sports bike and the Bergman looks to tick all the boxes. Just don't tell my Lambretta riding mates or I'm in for it. 🤣 🤣
Great review
Thank you Brian!
Great video TMF nice and early today. Off on another tour? I bought Monimoto after your review really pleased with it.
I am indeed - I'm on a flying trip at the moment.....Good the Monimoto isn't it?
It gives great peace of mind. Can you upload some flying videos soon?
Nice little village. Cool.
I bought a 2006 Burgman 650 with 12k miles on it. I love the scooter so much. I bought it as a toy but now I am mad at the rain .... =(
Cool channel man
I know you are a massive fan of acf 50 just wondering if you have seen on the Bennett’s web site regarding xcp corrosion protectant. See what you think cheers phil
Ha, electric flappy mirrors ! Did notice rather bouncy rear suspension whenever you hit some bumps, seems to offer some adjustment which might help. For your long term review would be interested in how it performs with full load onboard in the underseat and front compartments, cheers :-)
Another brilliant review, I currently own a zzr1400 before that thruxton 1200r before that fz1s all beautiful bikes in incredible condition. Unfortunately I don't get to go on big ride's! Mostly 50mile trips with the occasional 200mile trips maybe once a year. You should be a salesman because I feel like swapping to a big scoot with all the storage. And to be honest I do worry that this power could get me into trouble 😬. I might consider the 650 Bergman with you saying it feels fast enough 👍 I'll keep my eyes open for a peache
If it had cruise control and a slightly longer service interval it would be perfect. It’s close as it is 👌
Chris Burgess yesssss....so few bikes have built in cruise. If this had CC I would buy it today.
Chris Burgess what is the length of interval? Servicing more often? And what do you do except change oil?
Great review, I switched from scooter to motorbike and definitely miss the ability to stash helmet and also Scooters can be fitted with a weather housing which more or less keeps you dry in crappy weather. On my motorbike I have to carry a change of work clothes in a dry bag!
The fabric covers for the legs are called tablier (in France) and are very popular with scooter riders. They keep the lower body warm and dry without the need for specialist clothing or boots. You can still get your feet down at a standstill with them. I love all bikes but nothing is as practical as a big capacity scooter.
I have 3 bikes 900cc and more and I think scooters are cool, always give 'em a wave. they;re a hoot. When it hits the market next year I plan to pick up one of the new SuperCub 125 machines. Scooters: Don't knock 'em until you've tried 'em.
Best. In. Class.
Top review TMF. Scooters have a poor image in Australia too. Lots of riders poo poo them, never having ridden one. I ride a conventional bike at the moment but I think a Burgie would be good to have. Unfortunately it seems Suzuki are not bringing them down under anymore? Just not the market i guess. Anyhow, keep up the great work.
Thanks for watching!
I like the look of the burgmen
Sorry...what was the bike called again?
Ok 3 years late to the party but Great review TMF...
Remember my biker chums you need a class A licence to ride one of these fantastic machines in the UK so this scooter rider v Biker is utter nonsense ! The 3500 mile service which puts some people off is for an oil and filter change and perhaps a CVT filter blow off but that is something easily done yourself.
If you want to see this thing really fly and beat anything away from the lights, then press the power button ! Man it really goes !
Had a Super Blackbird for over six years before getting this, should have got one years ago the comfort is absolutely supreme.
Ps ... I wish I was young again because I would realise I would never get old !
Great video again, I bet you’d be using that 90% of the time if you owned one !!!
Very true!
hello!nice video!do you know about cvt gears?that new model have metal gears or plastic like old??thank's!
I’m not sure....
ok thank you!!,but this is the most big problem with that bike,a friend of mine had the 2009 model,and he pay 800 euro for the cvt service in 40.000 klm, the gears are plastic and broke ,if the suzuki does not put metal gears in burgman then i think it is the most fail bike in history!!
I would love to have one of these but I have nowhere to park it at night other than having the front garden dug up redesigned i miss my 2 wheels
hi - I am thinking of getting a maxi scooter to run between birmingham and coventry (once we’re allowed out), so I have the choice of urban or motorway routes. I don’t fancy doing it every day on my GS and I used to have a scooter, so I am sold on their practicalities and understand the advantages. My question is: Burgman or Yamaha TMax? Did you find a massive difference between them?
Tmax - Burgman a bit too big.....
TMF maybe try the Honda Integra, looks like a good compromise between a scooter & motorcycle, especially with that DCT :)
Same engine, but everything else is different.
No your are mistaken, the X-adv yes, but not the Integra. Different machines.
I think the Yamaha T max is the market leader in France they sell 10 to one Burgman.
Hi, I have a 2007 400 Burgman which only has one headlight that works on dipped beam so wondering if say a 2016 650 Burgman is the same or do both headlights come on together whilst dipped? I’m considering the 650 as my 400 feels a bit underpowered whilst at motorway speeds.
I don't know Paul I'm afraid....
Thank you.
By the way, does the scooter have a centre stand?
Yes it does
Hi I love your scooter reviews. Please record more . I. From the usa , wine country , northern California
Nice! Love it up there, although it’s been a while since I visited the Napa valley....
WIll you be reviewing a Honda NM4? A hybrid Motorcycle/Scooter.
Not sure we get it in the UK??
Very handy for riding to work, for now my daily commute is my Blackbird to keep the miles off my other bike. Who knows one day ... noooooo lol
Do you think a 2003 Burgman, even with very low miles, would be too old to buy now? A guy near me is selling one, but I'm hesitating because of the age, and I don't know if parts, filters, etc. are still available for it.
If it’s at the right price why not!
they are agile but have some scooter experience for sure if u are thinking about buying one of these.
Had a honda silver wing. Not having a frame between my legs cussed me to drop it several times. Also, the small wheel in the front found every crack in the rode. Over grating and at highway speeds it was kinda scary. Your thoughts?
Essential G I have 58000 km on a 400 Majesty. No problems at all on sealed road. Live in Aus. Commute 140 km a day all year round. I would be careful on gravel. Would love to own a 650 Burger. My two reservations are gravel as stated and handling on a long winding road. Acceptable but i imagine a sports tourer would be more fun.
reksubbn thanks so much!
Essential G the only time i find the majesty gets a bit twitchy is when the tyres are getting worn.
Can you tell us what the max range is on a full tank inside and outside of town (motorway)?
I don’t know I’m afraid....
Excellent review. Is it just me or are there only 4 things mentioned in this video?
You are watching far too closely!
Might be a nice scooter but it's a bit pricey when you consider it's the same price as a new Street Triple R. I know what I'd rather have, I accept they are very different machines. Great vid as usual TMF, keep 'em coming.
Cheers Colin - and yes, two machines designed for very different use-cases....
Tmax has always been market leader, has not got as much gadget wise compared to the burgman but far more fun, handling and speed etc you have to try one!
I have tried one - check out my review if you're interested!
Have you thought about doing a tour on one of the long term loan scooters?
No...not until now!
bren106 I think the 650 Burger would handle a tour through Scotland just fine. I know of one retired couple who bought one to ride around Aus.
I realise this is a couple of years old, but it is still relevant.
Preaching to the converted, as I have had a Lardy arse Burgman since 2004. I am now on my second which is now 11 years old. I sold the first at 60,000 miles in 2010 after trouble free ownership and 100% DIY servicing and maintenance. The current 11 year old Burgman has been equally trouble free.
Both bikes mainly used for 2 up touring in the U.K. and Europe and set up for that purpose with a rear GiviE52, two E52 side panniers and an Autocom system. Very much a Lardy arsed bike with the side cases on and must be almost wider than a Goldwing.
Faultless ownership experience and my only wish for an upgrade would be cruise control. My only criticism is rear tyre wear and I average 8,000 miles but figure this is down to being fully loaded for much of those miles and the effective ‘engine braking’ as you roll off the throttle (I hardly ever use the rear brakes).
I was tempted back in 2010 to go down the Goldwing route rather than getting another Burgman - the Burgman won on practicality (more storage than the GW) and cost - although my heart was trying to persuade my head otherwise.
Yes they are super practical these aren't they - the GoldWing is a completely different experience though.....
Please I want to buy one Suzuki burgman and I need it very agent , how much when send it by air plane DHL curial service?
Me no idea - expect 4 million pounds - you send agently
Nice as always tmf. what's your average mpg?
Stay tuned for my long term "living with" review!
What about trying the BMW Scooters ?
I have ridden the electric one, did you see that video?
I'm surprised to see people commenting on various forums that they only average 35 MPG on the 650. The SV650 gets 58 MPG realizing I'm comparing apples to oranges.
I average 50-52mpg from my Burgman 650. Less than the SV I guess because it is auto transmission and a lot heavier, though it doesn't feel it on the move.
Honestly the Burgman 650 is only a Scooter by Styling, beneath all that it's a Motorcycle with plenty of power and speed to get you thousands of miles in any direction!
What are the extra features of the executive?
Did you see my initial review where I cover them?
TheMissendenFlyer will check it out
Burgman 650 or TMax 530 - Which is best?
TMax....
TheMissendenFlyer Why? Could you do a comparison? TMax or X-Adv?
Is it good for beginners
Yeah I would think so....
Better than Tmax530?
I’ve not ridden the 530 so can’t really comment Daniel....
You have tested the Tmax DX 530, TMF 😉
I haven't ridden either but the TMax is generally regarded as the sportsbike of the scooter world, whereas the Burgman is a more traditional maxi scooter with a focus on comfort and practicality.
Other scoots I'd like to see TMF take on:
Vespa (any)
BMW C400X (when released)
One of the tilting tricycles: Piaggio MP3, Yamaha Tricity, Peugot Metropolis.
Very different machines so try both.
No not better but different. If you want the best handling scooter then the TMAX would win. If you want the best load lugger and tourer then Burgman 650 every day. Both are great bikes though in their own ways.
I can see a fishtail parka moving into the TMF household.
The Burgman 650 is a motorcycle in scooter disguise. This is my 3ed Burgi. , two 400s and one 650. The 650 is the way to go. Ride safe, sunny side up. keep the wheels on the ground.
thanks for that insight! i live in cali, it has to be the bergie 650 for me.
ME FASCINA ESA MOTO, LASTIMA QUE NUNCA PODRE TENER UNA....NI QUE VOLVIERA NACER 10 VECES
Top speed in MPH?
Karl Bryant approx 110 mph, according to Bergman USA website, I've never pegged it to see what she will do but have had it up to 100 mph with no problem.
I thought the number one would be its name.
A 'walk around' would have been nice.
The video above is part 2, part 1 is below (with a walk around etc)
ua-cam.com/video/2i7Bve-p4GQ/v-deo.html
Thanks Mark!
"Only" 650cc? Beefy enough, though properly heavy. Not sure my ADV bike with luggage is quite that hefty!!
Come on Mr Flyer you can’t be a mod and a rocker hahahahaha
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Thank you Darling......
It's *Captain* Darling to you...
Excellent machine then. Seems to be far better than a GS! 🙊😂
Careful....
I imagine you are riding the Suzuki Burgman 650 Executive
How did you guess!! ;0) [cheeky!]
To be honest I’ve never ridden a beluga whale, but honestly, why would you sit in traffic in your car when you could ride the Suzuki to work? Looks made for the job! So, enjoy your flying trip. If you refuel in Albi on the way back, the croissants are on me! 😉
If only I’d known that! I’m in Carcassonne now....
TheMissendenFlyer that’s a shame. Carcasonne is only an hour away by bike. Next time eh? Safe return!
277kgs!! Crazy for a scoot
Thanks for watching Henry....
TheMissendenFlyer Hi yes I had to collect one from a customers house and load it in the van which had a flat battery I had to take a long run at the ramp to get it in especially when it was a icy morning! 😮 very good informative test tho! 👍