Should I skate Flat or Anti-Rocker on my inline skates? A history lesson on aggressive inline wheels

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • I am going to answer the meaning of life. The answer that everyone is waiting to hear. Should I skate Flat or should I skate Anti-Rocker?
    Spoiler alert! I’m not going to answer that question! Because I can’t, it’s your personal preference as to what you dig!
    What I will do however is;
    explain what is Flat and what is Anti Rocker;
    Ill break down the pros and cons of both;
    Then ill sum it all up and let you know what I have decided after this soul searching journey that I have taken over the last month.
    What is flat and what is Anti - Rocker?
    To understand this we need to take a trip back to the 90’s when the frame was riveted to the bottom of our boots and there were no such things as replacement frames and definitely no such thing as UFS. If you skated all large wheels, you couldn’t grind (unless you were John Pollard, who invented the Shifty Royale, but that’s a different story for a different day.
    So there were a few options, 1 skate 4 large wheels and don’t grind or skate 4 tiny wheels and suffer because they were too slow, remember the skate parks were not nice smooth concrete back then, they were chunky, rough as guts and brutal if you ate shit.
    Because this wasn’t ideal, there was a third option, large wheels on the outside and small wheels on the inside. We have anti rocker. And if you are wondering why they call it anti-rocker that is because there was another set up that was called “rocker” that was the opposite, this was when the centre 2 wheels would protrude more than the front and rear wheels. This would make it easy to turn like a figure skater because only the middle two wheels were touching. The skates actually had plastic spacers that would sit in the frame and you could position them in various ways to set up your skates for the type of skating that you preferred. Side note, these things used to break all the time and when you would rotate your wheels the pieces would crumble out like a melting moment.
    Anti-rocker was so good because you could get lots of speed from your large cozmos and still bust out a grinds down a hand rail. So it was perfect right, end of video.
    No, the sport kept evolving and we started coming up with more grind tricks that involved using parts of the skates that we didn’t think of using previously. We started bending our ankles in ways that the skates were not designed to flex. We started doing tricks like fish brains and various topside tricks.
    The Skates also evolved and they started making the grooves bigger in the skates and incorporated UFS frames (the Universal Frame System) so you could switch out your frames quickly and customize them to your liking.
    This is where things get interesting, we now have so many choices and we can set our skates up with lots of different options but at the end of the day, you are still either skating on the 4 wheels touching or just the two touching (anti-rocker or rocker).
    That was a big chunk of history so now that we have that out the way, let’s get into the nitty gritty, the good the bad and the ugly. I’m focusing around grinding here because if you’re not grinding, then you would be silly to ride anti-rocker, end of story. Unless you want to look bad ass!
    I just want to explain what this nasty little thing called wheel bite is: It happens when a wheel (usually a soft one) comes in contact with the grinding surface. Then the wheel grips up and bites! You’re momentum keeps going and your shin is going to connect with the rail or ledge. So Wheel bite is bad news.
    Some Pros for flat:
    Faster
    Smoother
    More responsive
    Less stress on wheels, hardware, frames, bearings
    Skating to places is better ride and don’t bottom out
    Flat cons
    Wheel bite
    More difficult to do grinds
    What have I decided? Will I ride flat or anti rocker? As much as I loved riding anti-rocker and how it made my grinding ability so much better, I love skating flat! I love the speed and I love the responsiveness of the 4 down. So I have actually purchased a new set of Kaltik Flat V2 frames. It is the best of both worlds, they have designed frames that have more space for grinding and no wheel bite and I get to ride flat. But this video isn’t about them, it’s about the journey that I went on to make sure that I was riding the right setup for me. I will probably take this journey again in a couple of years and test out new gear that has been developed.
    To put a bow on this topic, I can’t take that journey for you, you need to take it yourself and I recommend trying both for at least a month each. You might be surprised with what you find out. Get out there and skate for fun and enjoy what ever feels better for you, you can even take advantage of UFS and switch up your frames each time you skate depending on the location. It’s up to you!!
    Thanks for watching!
    Over and out!.2

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  • @questtobliss
    @questtobliss 2 роки тому +4

    Such an informative video, thanks for the history lesson. I’ve been skating anti rocker for a year now and am thinking about trying flat! Just subbed, looking forward to more videos like this. 🤙🏽✨

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you. Flat will take a little getting used to but it will be worth it if you persist. Also welcome 🤗 I have some exciting videos planned for the future!

  • @asthmaticrhino
    @asthmaticrhino 2 роки тому +3

    secret third answer: freestyle frames?

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  2 роки тому +1

      Never tried the freestyle frames but they look fun!

    • @simongloutnez589
      @simongloutnez589 Рік тому

      The good answer was : rockered frame ! Fuck flat !

  • @uu3903
    @uu3903 Рік тому +2

    There's also wheel profile and durometer considerations as a subset of flat. Harder, bullet profile wheels in the middle can help alleviate wheel bite.

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  Рік тому

      Yes, the wheels do make a big difference. Good point. Thanks.

  • @aaronwlkr
    @aaronwlkr 11 місяців тому +1

    In the 1992 area grind wheels were the thing, which I guess people call anti-rocker now. Then almost everyone went flat from like 1995-2000. Flat is the only way IMO. Anti-rocker is for fat concrete curbs, anything else is dumb. I skated for many years, I don't ever remember having wheel bite. Unless this is something related to a design flaw of newer skates. Never had wheel bite. I've skated N.I.S.S. and A.S.A. all flat.

    • @baileyayyy5085
      @baileyayyy5085 6 місяців тому +1

      you must not be going very big lmao go try that out on a handrail and let us know how it goes

  • @giovanniamore7532
    @giovanniamore7532 Рік тому +1

    if ýou start anti or free before switching to flat to learn grinds faster, ýou have to learn everý grind twice..

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  Рік тому

      I recommend beginners to start flat because if you can grind with a flat setup, you can grind with anti!

  • @benra723
    @benra723 2 роки тому +2

    That was awesome

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  2 роки тому

      That was funny, you said you liked flat but you had anti rocker!

  • @nephimcknight5832
    @nephimcknight5832 Рік тому +1

    Both
    I skate both
    Two setups always

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  Рік тому

      Do you switch frames each time or you have 2 full setups?

  • @glennnikkelson3082
    @glennnikkelson3082 2 роки тому +2

    good video need more like this one

  • @_sun_protection_
    @_sun_protection_ 2 роки тому +1

    Four down!
    Should ailso have mentioned Kayak rocker! I
    had heaps of fun on this journey recently.

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  2 роки тому +1

      I’m not familiar with the Kayak rocker, will have to look it up. Thanks 👍🏻

    • @_sun_protection_
      @_sun_protection_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@JoeStuartAU Joey Lunger is the authority on it I believe. Check out his JS episode

  • @adamschannel8685
    @adamschannel8685 Рік тому +2

    Flat all day

  • @rich8019
    @rich8019 2 роки тому +1

    Currently have a set up for both but do love the flat quite a bit more. Speed and control pay offs are too high for this bloke.
    10/10 thumbnail on this vid as well!

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks. They are both fun but loving the new frames. Did you like the Woody Point bowl footage?

    • @rich8019
      @rich8019 2 роки тому +1

      @Joe Stuart No lie, I drove by there last month and was explaining what was there to my wife. Pretty stoked to see it in this!

  • @dividendosdobem
    @dividendosdobem Рік тому +1

    Thx a lot bro!

  • @JustAnotherBlader
    @JustAnotherBlader 2 роки тому +3

    Flat skaters these days are like those annoying vegans lol

    • @JoeStuartAU
      @JoeStuartAU  2 роки тому

      🤣

    • @94SexyStang
      @94SexyStang 2 місяці тому +1

      anti-rocker is for children that are too scared to go fast, the REAL OG's skated flat and learned real skill! Period.

  • @DeathRUM27
    @DeathRUM27 2 роки тому +1

    Nice lesson

  • @MultitaskingGuy
    @MultitaskingGuy Рік тому

    I skated with four wheels once, and it just felt like I was cheating

  • @GpAsyea
    @GpAsyea Рік тому

    Nice video man. Thanks for the tips