We had a 1MW generator for the adit fans, when hydro was run to the site and it finally shut down it had over 15,000hours on it, was only started once. On-line filter changes, constant rpm, constant load, it's the cold starts that wear equipment, standby stuff has a hard life.
It's from sitting for a month the oil drains down and you have a few seconds of metal on metal.. builds oil pressure and runs for a few minutes to warm it up and that probably it for the month. A years worth of nothing but non primed start ups would do that I dont doubt. A less likely scenario would be the oil breaking down from sitting so long that all the good bits fell to the bottom and it didnt get it's fair share of vitamins and nutrients.
This is 100% accurate for the F-15s I work on. We came to rescue two stuck in Europe, both down for their compressed air system (ECS) and the second P.O.S. shits out a component in the starting gearbox once we get their airflow issue fixed.
I grew up on my Grandfather's farm, he always said, "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it twice". He was pretty snarky, but he was mine!
I have friends who are like that. They spend at least half of every day undoing everything they fucked up from being in hurry the day before. Then spend the second half of the day fucking everything up for tomorrow by trying to do a long day's work in less than a light half days time and effort.
I bought an older military generator with about 400 hours on it for $500.00 US. Has the same issue. Best part is the original price tag of $36,000.00 US is still on it.
Yap cost less than $1000 to produce = BIG PROFIT MARGINES you're politicians collaborating to the tune of bend ya over fencing laundering & kick um backs you can trace the national budget deficit the top of that schemey pyramid bunch😉
Got a military Humvee M998 for 8100 bucks on the government auction site. Was in 100% perfect mint condition. Has the 6.5L V8 diesel in it. Original price tag was still on it and it was over 50,000 dollars. Lol I have it registered, tagged, and titled. It's been a great farm truck and has outperformed any jeep or lifted 4x4 truck while off roading. Gets 14 mpg. 2500 pound cargo capacity. Can buy every part I could ever need for it on Ebay. Lol
I've changed hundreds of oil filters and I've never thought to look inside for metal. Damn it man, you've just added 60 seconds to every job from now on.
@@IXIskarfaceIXI yes, but then that filter needs a filter to filter the filter's filter and so forth. After a few oil changes you'll own a controlling share of fram.
I mean diluted as it probably sat so long the oil was fuckered, so the three to six times it saw service were HELL. Firemen probably never thought it needed achanging. It looks purdy as the day it came off the line. Aware deluded works there but im considering the pretty sparkles in the oil pan in my og comment
We have a FLEET of those Mitsu/Generac units in service + 300 at last count. By far the best running units aside from an old Kohler. (We use J.D., Kohler, MQ, Onan, Mitsu, old Chevy V-8 L.P./NG and newer Ferd V-10 L.P./NG) Veeeery little goes wrong with them Mitsu's but I will give you a hint of 2 items to replace before putting it into "service" 1) The fuel priming plunger, (Whiteish round plastic thing on top of the injector pump @ 1:53) It unscrews and then you pump it to prime. The o-rings go bad and they suck air. 2) fuel pressure sensor, which I don't see on your model but it may be hidden elsewhere. It's typically on the injection pump, has 2 wires and a tiny hole on the end of a rubber nipple. diaphragm goes bad and nipple turns into a Diesel squirt gun. They still run but squirt fuel all over the door and catch basin
Before retirement my father was in charge of making sure that a soviet made generator, 2 wheel trailer type was always ready. That thing was build like nuclear reactor. Had a pre lube pump that made sure nothing was running dry at the start. Damn thing despite being 40 years old, always started on first turn.
@@alvydasurbonas8913 It isn't going to be worth more than scrap if they run contaminated oil over the heads, cylinder walls and through the turbo. Not to mention it's going to smash up the crank.
@@alexmaclean1 Oh it Could have been fucked more. could have started it up and threw a rod though the side of the block then what would there even be to rebuild. currently its a pretty straight forwarded rebuild. but it wouldn't be with a hole in the side of the block.
Too bad she's got a touch of the consumption death-rattle. At least you can rebuild it properly and not have to guess if it's gonna shit the bed when it's needed most. That oil pan glitter was a bit chunky for my liking. Looking forward to seeing updates for this. Thanks for sharing my friend.
@@Theorbit10 Well will need at a minimum new pistons, new linings or a rebore, brand new rings to suit new pistons, and a whole load of the finest Japanese made white metal half moons of bearings, plus some extra minor things like timing chains, tensioners and a new oil pump, because the old one will be plumb dickered from having a glitter meal.
Surprised you didn't try jiggling the big ends of the rods while you had the pan off. A knock that bad with that much metal in the pan and you'd feel it it with your fingies.
you'd think you would but at really high compression and high rpms even the smallest imperfection can become a very large problem. This is a completely random example but it kinda makes sense: think of it kind of like putting a brick in a washer. If you tape it to the side so it doesn't fall down and you can actually rotate it 360° and you hand turn the washer, no big deal, it feels like its spinning normally. But if you turn the washer on at full speed and put that brick in, there is going to be so much more force and it will rattle that machine to death because of the higher centrifugal forces at higher RPMs. Again, it's a far stretch of an example, but it kinda makes sense. Or you could feel it by hand, in which case you would have a major issue in tolerances.
We have on old straight 6 liter Dorman. 100 kw. For farm backup. Even on a good day she doubles as a simulated pazer division, all noise and smoke and just a touch to much fire
AvE, my brothers at the fire hall love cooking on the 3/4” BBQ griddle you inspired me to build. It maintains its heat while we inspect the broken bumpers of America... and for that I thank you. Keep the videos coming👍👍
Got a nice oil filter wrench years ago, if it will not come loose it will at least have a nice easy to hold set of collapsed sides crushed into it when it does finally come. Will be off, either with the centre threaded pipe or separate, but it will be off. Consider yourself lucky you do not have the modern plastic housing filters, where you are lucky it will not break every second time you undo it.
@@SeanBZA my problem with filter wrenches, most every time I go to actually use one, it's on something that doesn't have enough room to get the wrench in there.
Two big wrenches, and a microphone. Oh, AvE. Generator City is a two-hundred seventy-seven amperes town That's beautiful, Dew-claw Get my microphone. Where it's at.
I was at the local FOMOCO stealership and they were putting a brand new 6.7 Powerstroke diesel engine in a fire truck with less than 5000 miles on the clock. All they ever did with it was let it idle. Condensation built up in the crank case and diluted the oil. All they had to do was use the thing...
Thats why I liked it when the fire guys at my local department would kick them up into the PTO even if they were just gonna sit for 15 minutes. Gave it some load and some heat. They keep their trucks going well for a long time.
@@sHoRtBuSseR Fuel can be an issue certainly, but i've seen engines in northern climates with similar duty cycles as standby generators drain quarts of water on multi-gallon sumps after failure or repair. When the enclosure is packed around with snow, and often even packed inside the enclosure with snow, you get crazy high relative humidities inside the cases. For really short runs you aren't even going to boil off water in the oil much less diesel.
It wouldn't be the first time shit like that has happened. I know of it happening three times at one tractor dealership on tractors being serviced by one particular mechanic in a month's time.
Higher than years of cold starts somehow leading to what's probably a spun rod bearing. Like if you want to quantify lifespan in cold starts this thing only had like a years worth of delivery truck service on it.
Pretty low actually, unless someone deliberately bypassed the oil pressure sensor. These generators will shut down if oil pressure doesn't come up within a few short seconds after starting, and will immediately shut down if there is a loss of oil pressure while running. Running an engine "dry" for just a few seconds won't do that kind of damage.
The thread strands from the oil filter gave me a laugh. I am going through Caterpillar applied failure analysis training this week. They specifically had a small section in the power point yesterday pointing out an engine failure caused by poor thread machining in an oil filter.
I’m about to start my senior year mechanical engineering soon, and I plan on challenging the FE exam this January just to see how difficult she really is. I just want to thank you, AvE, for running your channel and inspiring me to press on by just having a channel showing what you do. Whenever I’m getting burnt out from doing tedious calculations from classes like heat transfer and what have you, your channel makes me sincerely believe it’ll all be very worth it someday.
@Honourable Member GuD will never do that with me, typically 10 000km max before a new one goes in. Stay away from the house brands, and remember a lot of OEM filters are FRAM made, just there they do actually take care and make them properly, because they have to handle the warranty claims at stealership prices.
Wow!!!! This reminds me of doing generators in Haiti. Same exact scenario. Reaching in under the frame rails to put the oil pan back in. Doing it mostly by braille, learning new words cause most times we were working at church missions and didn't want to traumatize the kids. I had this one young man, Gerome who translated for me along with helping with the heavy lifting and driving. Hoo yeah. We invented a lot of new words both in English and in Kreyol!!! Great times.
Been watching your videos for years. Some of your occupational vernacular has rubbed off on me. Now I've got a meeting with HR to discuss, "what's appropriate" and "my future with the company" 🤣🤷♂️
When you 2 get together, it's the greatest show on earth. Have a great Chtistmmas and New Year. Please don't ever stop what you do. It's the best. Really.
The best part of any Junkyard Wars episode back in the day on TLC (when that channel was just a wee bit different) was when some wacky contraption needed the beating heart of an ancient scrapped V8 and they tried to jolt it back from the dead in the 11th hour. This is kinda like that!
8:10 - I read the comment. Regardless of the method (even replacing wood screws), I always turn counter-clockwise first until I feel/hear the click, telling me that the thread "ramps" just fell off of each other. Then CW to tighten.
Absolutely not, one guy is a hack and has no clue, and this guy knows what hes talking about, AVE would call him a GOOF and send him down the rd before he even got out of his shitbox
You, sir are my favorite taker-aparter and edumicator. Always a pleasure to see what is coming apart and hear you preach the workings with the bias of someone who sounds like they might know a thing or two. My hat is off to you kind sir for the learnment and knee slappins. Thank you!
It is almost-October, 2020; and UA-cam decided I should watch this again. And we have no resolution to the issue. Did you fix it? Did you eat the auction price and deliver it to the scrapyard? Is it providing all the power to Chez DeauClaw? Enquiring minds want to know!
thanks for taking the time to upload this video,I can't describe how entertaining it was to see this , i always looked at auctions of these generators and wondered what could be wrong with them for a rebuild
@@andrewlockwood6102 Plug the holes with grease? Or cold-soak the filled filter in dry ice/liquid nitrogen? (And give it plenty of time to thaw before cranking.)
@@earlwright3613 if you're uncertain about that I can definitely confirm you're right. Diesel is self igniting thus it needs a high compression ratio and does really well with a shit load of boost lol
Ran my mitsu on jet a1, pump seal failed and dumped fuel into the case, did another 50k before the head gasket went. Not as tough as Isuzu but nothing is... Apart from maybe Perkins.
@James Sloan plenty of stories from boaty folk who have un-sunk their tubs after 6 months in sea water and the Perkins has run fine, there is a good reason everyone from Nissan, Mazda and Ford to the Challenger tank have used them, lovely little diesels.
dont talk perkins to an ausie,they were crap,like a snail,see where they been.gutless,smelly,unreliable.last of them got turbo,ed,80,s.has to be toyota in aus,brain dead.i have an mwm 4.2tdi.super duty.brazilian.700nm,170kw.no computers..
@@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 to be fair the boaty folk at least on older boats prefer the good old detroit diesels they are not the most economical or anything but boy they last a century quite literally . and are really hard to destroy unless you let uncle bumblefuck have a go at it then it would last maybe half a day
@@phantomwalker8251 mate, all the early Nissan patrol diesels were Perkins, Massey used them exclusively for a few decades as did jcb, London taxi, Ford, dodge, the things are everywhere and most people that have owned one don't even know it.
At 10:15, on pre-filling filters or not, I generally fill them then install, but I fill through the holes around the main bore on the filter. Thats where unfiltered oil/fuel/what have you enters through, then it draws through the filter and into the engine as it normally would.
I've seen that pan glitter a few to many times. Standby generators have a very hard short life. The main engines see 20 to 60,000 hours with no problems, the poor standby genset is lucky if it makes it to 500 hours. There was a reason why the pony start engines were spun over tell you had oil pressure on the gauge before lighting them off.
Because very few beancounters want to pay for the fuel for a proper 1hr+ run under load. I have an Onan commercial7500 in a stand by role that once a month runs my home for 4 hrs. 2600 hrs on it when I got it, 5900 now. Always starts within 3 cranks.
@Bill Williams I was being a wise ass. I'm a gen tech ....all my tech buddies aren't a fan of em and we have many laughs over their designs when it's beer thirty and we get together.
Pro tip : You need more rtv. I like to apply just enough so that I can take a caulking tool and smooth it in there like I'm putting a bathtub in. The next guy will remember your name I promise
By direct math conversion, yes, but it takes a lot more than that from the engine to put that much down the wires. Those genny diesels are serious workhorses.
LazerLord10 ... Typical sizing of the engine for commercially available units is around 2 hp per Kw... plus or minus. Of course they round off based on available engine size, and rounding off to lower power is pretty typical in this category. The fact that this one has a turbocharger tells me they are trying to get a few more ponies out of it at 1800 rpm, which is also pretty common.
@@Paid2Win ... direct conversion and not accounting for any losses does equal roughly 108 hp but chances are the engine has power to spare because they never design things that tight.
Pro-tip, use used engine oil to lubricate the oil filter o-ring, not grease or new oil. If your diesel fuel is as "high quality" as ours here in the US n' A, may want to throw in something like diesel kleen additive +cetane booster regularly and a quart of ATF every other tank full or so. Maybe some seafoam since the engine has sat for a while. Add some liqui-moly MoS2 or ceratec to the engine oil, will smooth out running and help the bearings live longer. I would've used "the right stuff" black rtv on earl pan.
@@Coffeebreak6329 back in the day men like us may have competed but these days i think we all have a common bond because we realize we are a dying breed. cheers!
That's a point. Cars, SUVs and vans with runaway diesels on a motorway hard shoulder (UK) used to be a regular sighting but I've not seen one for at least a couple of years now.
Had that happen to me before when driving. Lucky I knew, that the engine was worn out, so it wasn't all the way unexpected, although it did happen on the Interstate. Left her in gear, made my way to the shoulder and put on the brakes. Left a huge smoke screen behind me.
I’ve been a generator tech for 20yrs. Generacs(aka generjunks, or genercraps) are probably the most problematic of all the major OEMs. Your unit has the E-Panel controller. It is notorious for going into running alarms(lop, or het) when it is just sitting there not running. The phase selector switch is another treat.. You would be wise to never turn that while it is running. The internals of that thing is made of a ribbon candy like material. It becomes incredibly brittle, and causes things to touch that shouldn’t... Recontrol that unit with a DeepSea 7310 after you sort out the engine, and that’ll be a decent unit...
i learn so gawdamned much from you I had to subscribe... that and you're hilarious. You remind me of everyone i grew up with in Minnesota on the farm. Thanks for sharing.
Your description of the fire hall sounds about correct. Our fire station has a generator as well but we run it under load, disconnected from the grid, for at least half an hour each month.
Right? Or the pound of bearing material in the oil pan. They just tossed it back together and were like, “hey maybe nothing is wrong with it!” Turns out, there was.
You mean the bluing that resulted from the factory hardening process? If that was from a faulty bearing, that crankshaft would be seized. 2:13 they are obviously fully aware of a bearing problem and just curious what it will do, not sure why, but I assume for views more than the will to fixing it properly in the first place.
100% rite lack of running caused this problem ! As a generac mec ive seen this a lot when biodiesel has been used and a bio-fungicide has not been used in the fuel for long term storage, more than likely a plugged injector or injection pump caused a catastrophic failure ..good luck ...
I remember reading a publication from UK piston manufacturer Wellworthy in the '70s that recommended having a Halon fire extinguisher or two handy when starting an overhauled diesel.
I was once at a site where the power had gone out (lots of flooding locally) and they were running the standby generator. It was sized to be able to run three industrial gas turbines simultaneously (not that that was ever really needed) and so we went around the MCC turning on all the heaters and (in effect, dummy) loads that we could find to load up the generator for that exact reason
The Power Shop guys deal with this stuff. All of our central offices are getting upgraded with new backup powerplants - the old Detroit Diesel 2-strokes have been scrapped. I know they follow a weekly run-up schedule, which I just learned from this video is crucial to them working when they're needed.
If it was owned by the fire department I'm guessing they might have a backup generator rated for that kind of load to run their a fancy big compressor to refill breathing air cylinders? As a firefighter that's a rather essential luxury to have when pissing water on the fires, it kinda helps keep you going for a while.
Great glob. Closing the covers on her was a good idea, rental companies do that every day and it werks. Looks like an okay engine to work on. Thanks AvE and DewClaw
@@Coffeebreak6329 without peelers in an engine, and with peelers in a gearbox or a differential, such as a rear axle on a car. After fixing with banana, sell fast as hell 👍
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We had a 1MW generator for the adit fans, when hydro was run to the site and it finally shut down it had over 15,000hours on it, was only started once. On-line filter changes, constant rpm, constant load, it's the cold starts that wear equipment, standby stuff has a hard life.
Every ship I work on runs great until it's shut down for more than a week. Then it's cross your fingers, pray to the Virgin and Vishnu.
It's from sitting for a month the oil drains down and you have a few seconds of metal on metal.. builds oil pressure and runs for a few minutes to warm it up and that probably it for the month. A years worth of nothing but non primed start ups would do that I dont doubt. A less likely scenario would be the oil breaking down from sitting so long that all the good bits fell to the bottom and it didnt get it's fair share of vitamins and nutrients.
This is 100% accurate for the F-15s I work on. We came to rescue two stuck in Europe, both down for their compressed air system (ECS) and the second P.O.S. shits out a component in the starting gearbox once we get their airflow issue fixed.
Rhubarb Pie no shit I work 15s too, changed many a gearbox in my 3 yrs on the jet
Dam that's 625 days she ran
Knock knock. Who’s there. Piston number 2
Piston number 2 who?
@@truckguy6666 piston number 2's piston rings
@@FuckignRuby is it Ringing or is the rod the one who's knocking
🤣🤣🤣
@@truckguy6666 your mom
"I'll try to swear more and sound dumber..." Duclaw perfectly encapsulates the secret to this channel's success.
I grew up on my Grandfather's farm, he always said, "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it twice". He was pretty snarky, but he was mine!
We can all learn from this, If you don't fix it right the first time you might be snarky when you get old. That's worth doing it twice for sure!
I have friends who are like that. They spend at least half of every day undoing everything they fucked up from being in hurry the day before. Then spend the second half of the day fucking everything up for tomorrow by trying to do a long day's work in less than a light half days time and effort.
Farming's often like that. Most of my day is spent un-fucking stuff the boss did last week
I Love that saying.. so true!
What a great way to put impatient people in their place
Speaking as someone who once worked in a quality lab testing oil filters, those curlies are the least of your worries.
David Coghill Tell us mooooore
FRAM filters are shit. Bare minimum of element pleats, and often times rust inside the filter.
@@kshatriya1414 ua-cam.com/video/iTNJLEV8CG8/v-deo.html
Yes please.... share the details brother??
The details are: Fram = 💩.
I bought an older military generator with about 400 hours on it for $500.00 US. Has the same issue. Best part is the original price tag of $36,000.00 US is still on it.
Wrong Answer i got 35500 reasons why that was a good deal
Yap cost less than $1000 to produce = BIG PROFIT MARGINES you're politicians collaborating to the tune of bend ya over fencing laundering & kick um backs you can trace the national budget deficit the top of that schemey pyramid bunch😉
Wait what? Thats outright insanity... I will offer a small car with a generator strapped to the front wheels..US cars have cruise control right?
Sounds like you got a bunch of taxpayer dollars sitting in your garage.
Got a military Humvee M998 for 8100 bucks on the government auction site. Was in 100% perfect mint condition. Has the 6.5L V8 diesel in it. Original price tag was still on it and it was over 50,000 dollars. Lol
I have it registered, tagged, and titled. It's been a great farm truck and has outperformed any jeep or lifted 4x4 truck while off roading. Gets 14 mpg. 2500 pound cargo capacity. Can buy every part I could ever need for it on Ebay. Lol
I thought billowing white smoke meant there’s a new pope
I've changed hundreds of oil filters and I've never thought to look inside for metal. Damn it man, you've just added 60 seconds to every job from now on.
My rule is that if the filter doesn’t come sealed in plastic I don’t buy it, any reputable brand these days will be.
What's the big deal? Filter will catch it.
@@wzpu3283 need a filter to filter the filter
@@IXIskarfaceIXI yes, but then that filter needs a filter to filter the filter's filter and so forth. After a few oil changes you'll own a controlling share of fram.
Wham? Bam? Thank you Fram!
Listening to that generator "run" reminded me that I need to get my teletype fixed.
Excellent
Which raises the only question... what was the generator trying to say? Find out in the next episode when we hook up a teletype to the fuel injectors!
HA! I thought it was a coded Enigma message for Emperor Hirohito...
Looking forward to future vijayos on this Cork stuffer
Hark! I hear two skeletons fornicating on a tin roof.
15:13
That brief couple of seconds when it stops knocking...it's diluted hope
Sounds like wrist pin to me
"diluted hope" :: priceless. Not deluded.
I mean diluted as it probably sat so long the oil was fuckered, so the three to six times it saw service were HELL.
Firemen probably never thought it needed achanging. It looks purdy as the day it came off the line.
Aware deluded works there but im considering the pretty sparkles in the oil pan in my og comment
when that thing fired, my cat fled the room immediately.
Even I took a step back and hit the spacebar with a stick
My cat didn’t flee, but he sure did look concerned
What a pussy.
it caused me a near shart event ffs!
Sounded like a rod was just freely banging around in the crankcase. Lol
We have a FLEET of those Mitsu/Generac units in service + 300 at last count. By far the best running units aside from an old Kohler. (We use J.D., Kohler, MQ, Onan, Mitsu, old Chevy V-8 L.P./NG and newer Ferd V-10 L.P./NG) Veeeery little goes wrong with them Mitsu's but I will give you a hint of 2 items to replace before putting it into "service"
1) The fuel priming plunger, (Whiteish round plastic thing on top of the injector pump @ 1:53) It unscrews and then you pump it to prime. The o-rings go bad and they suck air.
2) fuel pressure sensor, which I don't see on your model but it may be hidden elsewhere. It's typically on the injection pump, has 2 wires and a tiny hole on the end of a rubber nipple. diaphragm goes bad and nipple turns into a Diesel squirt gun. They still run but squirt fuel all over the door and catch basin
Dude I used to work with on silicone carny, "customer payed for the whole tube, they gettin the whole tube"
Before retirement my father was in charge of making sure that a soviet made generator, 2 wheel trailer type was always ready. That thing was build like nuclear reactor. Had a pre lube pump that made sure nothing was running dry at the start. Damn thing despite being 40 years old, always started on first turn.
@@VeteranVandal work more to drink more
The analogy between "soviet made generator" and "built like a nuclear plant" smells like Chernobyl to me!
@@wetrock2766 Yeah, but that generator was located at police headquarters.
"Dewclaw's on the pipe again." Dropping comedy golden nuggets all throughout his videos time and time again.
Hey! We firemen do more than that. We pick up old people that can’t get up and wave at kids at the grocery store ;)
You found enough glitter in the pan for at least 5 strippers and decided to button it back up and run it?
At least pull the bearing caps before putting it back together.
they did this to find out if generator part is working you dum dum because its not worth the effort to fix the engine if generator is dead.
@@alvydasurbonas8913 It isn't going to be worth more than scrap if they run contaminated oil over the heads, cylinder walls and through the turbo. Not to mention it's going to smash up the crank.
At he said, it's already fucked, can't fuck it any more.
@@alexmaclean1 Oh it Could have been fucked more. could have started it up and threw a rod though the side of the block then what would there even be to rebuild. currently its a pretty straight forwarded rebuild. but it wouldn't be with a hole in the side of the block.
Too bad she's got a touch of the consumption death-rattle. At least you can rebuild it properly and not have to guess if it's gonna shit the bed when it's needed most. That oil pan glitter was a bit chunky for my liking. Looking forward to seeing updates for this. Thanks for sharing my friend.
@@Theorbit10 or blown rings
@@Theorbit10 Well will need at a minimum new pistons, new linings or a rebore, brand new rings to suit new pistons, and a whole load of the finest Japanese made white metal half moons of bearings, plus some extra minor things like timing chains, tensioners and a new oil pump, because the old one will be plumb dickered from having a glitter meal.
@@SeanBZA At that kind of work, might as well just get a new Mitsurbitchi diesel and swap the whole block.
Wet stacked and popped a hole
Theorbit10 or a cylinder wall with a window 😁
"Your hands are puttin' on weight man" -Duclaw
Oh no not down the center of the filter my goodness it is unfiltered now the horror lol
Surprised you didn't try jiggling the big ends of the rods while you had the pan off. A knock that bad with that much metal in the pan and you'd feel it it with your fingies.
Not necessarily
you'd think you would but at really high compression and high rpms even the smallest imperfection can become a very large problem. This is a completely random example but it kinda makes sense: think of it kind of like putting a brick in a washer. If you tape it to the side so it doesn't fall down and you can actually rotate it 360° and you hand turn the washer, no big deal, it feels like its spinning normally. But if you turn the washer on at full speed and put that brick in, there is going to be so much more force and it will rattle that machine to death because of the higher centrifugal forces at higher RPMs. Again, it's a far stretch of an example, but it kinda makes sense. Or you could feel it by hand, in which case you would have a major issue in tolerances.
Its probably the piston hitting the head after the bearing ejected .
@@petertaylor3424 OOF
@Dave Micolichek it is amazing how sometimes it can feel real tight with your fingers, but end up sloppy and loose when in use
Glad to see Fram is keeping up with the same quality over the years
We have on old straight 6 liter Dorman. 100 kw. For farm backup. Even on a good day she doubles as a simulated pazer division, all noise and smoke and just a touch to much fire
AvE, my brothers at the fire hall love cooking on the 3/4” BBQ griddle you inspired me to build. It maintains its heat while we inspect the broken bumpers of America... and for that I thank you. Keep the videos coming👍👍
I can’t tell you how many times I have had to drive a large screwdriver through an oil filter to get enough purchase to remove it.
Cody Mikles then cut your hand spinning the fuckers out, gets me every time😂
Got a nice oil filter wrench years ago, if it will not come loose it will at least have a nice easy to hold set of collapsed sides crushed into it when it does finally come. Will be off, either with the centre threaded pipe or separate, but it will be off. Consider yourself lucky you do not have the modern plastic housing filters, where you are lucky it will not break every second time you undo it.
@@SeanBZA my problem with filter wrenches, most every time I go to actually use one, it's on something that doesn't have enough room to get the wrench in there.
I remember having to use a pipe wrench to remove an oil filter after cutting it in half with a screwdriver. Not fun
Same here, hand tight is all she needs, only thing I can hand remove the oil filters, is on the shit I own, lol.
Two big wrenches, and a microphone.
Oh, AvE. Generator City is a two-hundred seventy-seven amperes town
That's beautiful, Dew-claw
Get my microphone.
Where it's at.
Right here. 🤣
I was at the local FOMOCO stealership and they were putting a brand new 6.7 Powerstroke diesel engine in a fire truck with less than 5000 miles on the clock. All they ever did with it was let it idle. Condensation built up in the crank case and diluted the oil. All they had to do was use the thing...
Fire engines have pretty much the worst duty cycle you could imagine - cold to full throttle as fast as possible winter or summer or idling forever.
Thats why I liked it when the fire guys at my local department would kick them up into the PTO even if they were just gonna sit for 15 minutes. Gave it some load and some heat. They keep their trucks going well for a long time.
Fuel gets in the oil actually, not usually condensation. Diesel engines don't burn all of their fuel idling.
@@sHoRtBuSseR Fuel can be an issue certainly, but i've seen engines in northern climates with similar duty cycles as standby generators drain quarts of water on multi-gallon sumps after failure or repair.
When the enclosure is packed around with snow, and often even packed inside the enclosure with snow, you get crazy high relative humidities inside the cases. For really short runs you aren't even going to boil off water in the oil much less diesel.
@@2009dudeman never thought about snow pack. Hmm. Seems the solution is to run it hard for awhile after every startup.
what are the odds that the last guy that changed the oil started it dry, then dumped in the oil and told the boss "I dunno what happened"
I think that is the same guy that makes all of these "blown head gasket" Craigslist ads.
It wouldn't be the first time shit like that has happened. I know of it happening three times at one tractor dealership on tractors being serviced by one particular mechanic in a month's time.
Higher than years of cold starts somehow leading to what's probably a spun rod bearing. Like if you want to quantify lifespan in cold starts this thing only had like a years worth of delivery truck service on it.
@@natalieisagirlnow Why does everyone just know that F wit would be that type?
Pretty low actually, unless someone deliberately bypassed the oil pressure sensor. These generators will shut down if oil pressure doesn't come up within a few short seconds after starting, and will immediately shut down if there is a loss of oil pressure while running. Running an engine "dry" for just a few seconds won't do that kind of damage.
The thread strands from the oil filter gave me a laugh. I am going through Caterpillar applied failure analysis training this week. They specifically had a small section in the power point yesterday pointing out an engine failure caused by poor thread machining in an oil filter.
Uncle Rodney is about to come for a visit ;)))
.......and he comes knockin' more than thrice.
A real loose swinger that Rodney fuck'er..
Uncle rodney flies south to the panhandle for the winter
He's gonna bust thru the wall like the kool-aid guy by the sounds of her.
I’m about to start my senior year mechanical engineering soon, and I plan on challenging the FE exam this January just to see how difficult she really is. I just want to thank you, AvE, for running your channel and inspiring me to press on by just having a channel showing what you do.
Whenever I’m getting burnt out from doing tedious calculations from classes like heat transfer and what have you, your channel makes me sincerely believe it’ll all be very worth it someday.
We insist on GUD here in South Africa. Those Fram filters are for export to less fortunate countries...
Gud owns FRAM, they have to have somewhere to put the rejects, other than in the dumpster, because the price for sub grade steel is so low.
@Honourable Member GuD will never do that with me, typically 10 000km max before a new one goes in. Stay away from the house brands, and remember a lot of OEM filters are FRAM made, just there they do actually take care and make them properly, because they have to handle the warranty claims at stealership prices.
you got a decent 2nd hand 4.2tdi mwm lying around,.?/.send it to aus,s.a.
... Like Canadia!
Wow!!!! This reminds me of doing generators in Haiti. Same exact scenario. Reaching in under the frame rails to put the oil pan back in. Doing it mostly by braille, learning new words cause most times we were working at church missions and didn't want to traumatize the kids. I had this one young man, Gerome who translated for me along with helping with the heavy lifting and driving. Hoo yeah. We invented a lot of new words both in English and in Kreyol!!! Great times.
Been watching your videos for years. Some of your occupational vernacular has rubbed off on me. Now I've got a meeting with HR to discuss, "what's appropriate" and "my future with the company" 🤣🤷♂️
You and yours deserve a very Merry Christmas. Thank you for profane but totally guy-centric entertainment for years now!
That thing had more bearings in the pan than on the journals.
When you 2 get together, it's the greatest show on earth. Have a great Chtistmmas and New Year. Please don't ever stop what you do. It's the best. Really.
Just pull the piston and seal up all the ins and outs of #2 and you’ve got yourself a 70kw generator, ready to go!
The best part of any Junkyard Wars episode back in the day on TLC (when that channel was just a wee bit different) was when some wacky contraption needed the beating heart of an ancient scrapped V8 and they tried to jolt it back from the dead in the 11th hour.
This is kinda like that!
Scrapyard Challenge. 😏
My all time favourite was when they built an afterburning jet engine.
Favorite show from my childhood!
I find it interesting that we used the word Challenge and the Americans choose War.
Sightly depressing too but hey ho.
I actually remember that episode lol.
And then in the competition the rusty motor runs fine, but the drive shaft brakes.
8:10 - I read the comment. Regardless of the method (even replacing wood screws), I always turn counter-clockwise first until I feel/hear the click, telling me that the thread "ramps" just fell off of each other. Then CW to tighten.
Only sure way - and can be easily felt through hand tools or gloves.
That's what my father taught me
As a volly firemans, i resemble that comment...
Rich prolly that too.
@@rich3633 looks like we got ourselves an intellectual here
@@rich3633 "I resemble that comment" is a Groucho Marx line.
It's a joke. A meme, if you will. The intention is humor.
Oh jesus could you imagine this guy and ziptes and bias plies in a video together 🤯
Mint.
Absolutely not, one guy is a hack and has no clue, and this guy knows what hes talking about, AVE would call him a GOOF and send him down the rd before he even got out of his shitbox
@@kwmiked if I'm not mistaken AvE has sent zipties and bias plies some decals in the past.
That engine is mint!! If it starts - send it!!!
There's a bunch of canadians like this, we lurk the comments and leave the vidjas to uncle bumblefuck
You, sir are my favorite taker-aparter and edumicator. Always a pleasure to see what is coming apart and hear you preach the workings with the bias of someone who sounds like they might know a thing or two.
My hat is off to you kind sir for the learnment and knee slappins. Thank you!
It is almost-October, 2020; and UA-cam decided I should watch this again. And we have no resolution to the issue. Did you fix it? Did you eat the auction price and deliver it to the scrapyard? Is it providing all the power to Chez DeauClaw? Enquiring minds want to know!
thanks for taking the time to upload this video,I can't describe how entertaining it was to see this , i always looked at auctions of these generators and wondered what could be wrong with them for a rebuild
I thought I was watching a episode of gold rush when you showed the pan.
You are by far the best thing I’ve stumbled upon on this god damned internet thing.
Good god, a filter prefilled with shards....
That's amazing.
There needs to be a. "AANNNNGG!... *click*" shirt.. or sticker or something.
I always prefill my filters, especially the ones that screw on from the top down
But damn that Anti-gravity synthetic oil is expensive as hell !
@@andrewlockwood6102 Plug the holes with grease? Or cold-soak the filled filter in dry ice/liquid nitrogen? (And give it plenty of time to thaw before cranking.)
Psht of course it's hard to turn over you dummies forgot to take out the spark plugs
I don't think diesel engines have sparkplugs
@@earlwright3613 ^^ There's always the brite one in the crowd to remind us what humor was supposed to be for
and the piston return springs too huh?
@@Theorbit10 the hood? 😂
@@earlwright3613 if you're uncertain about that I can definitely confirm you're right.
Diesel is self igniting thus it needs a high compression ratio and does really well with a shit load of boost lol
This is my 5-year-old's favorite channel!
"Two big wrenches and a Microphone!"
DuClaw know where it's at.
Ran my mitsu on jet a1, pump seal failed and dumped fuel into the case, did another 50k before the head gasket went. Not as tough as Isuzu but nothing is... Apart from maybe Perkins.
@James Sloan Peterborough's finest
@James Sloan plenty of stories from boaty folk who have un-sunk their tubs after 6 months in sea water and the Perkins has run fine, there is a good reason everyone from Nissan, Mazda and Ford to the Challenger tank have used them, lovely little diesels.
dont talk perkins to an ausie,they were crap,like a snail,see where they been.gutless,smelly,unreliable.last of them got turbo,ed,80,s.has to be toyota in aus,brain dead.i have an mwm 4.2tdi.super duty.brazilian.700nm,170kw.no computers..
@@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 to be fair the boaty folk at least on older boats prefer the good old detroit diesels
they are not the most economical or anything but boy they last a century quite literally . and are really hard to destroy
unless you let uncle bumblefuck have a go at it then it would last maybe half a day
@@phantomwalker8251 mate, all the early Nissan patrol diesels were Perkins, Massey used them exclusively for a few decades as did jcb, London taxi, Ford, dodge, the things are everywhere and most people that have owned one don't even know it.
I absolutely love ya commentary, cheers me up , proper logic ,
Like a Boss
That pan had more glitter than my collar the last time I visited one of those lap polishing clinics.. 💃🤯
Hahaha "clinic"
At 10:15, on pre-filling filters or not, I generally fill them then install, but I fill through the holes around the main bore on the filter. Thats where unfiltered oil/fuel/what have you enters through, then it draws through the filter and into the engine as it normally would.
Was expecting you to say, "Jou ma se poes!" when you saw where the oil filter was made lol.
Never mentioned your BIG ENDs once- Impressive work the pair of you!
I've seen that pan glitter a few to many times. Standby generators have a very hard short life.
The main engines see 20 to 60,000 hours with no problems, the poor standby genset is lucky if it makes it to 500 hours.
There was a reason why the pony start engines were spun over tell you had oil pressure on the gauge before lighting them off.
Because very few beancounters want to pay for the fuel for a proper 1hr+ run under load. I have an Onan commercial7500 in a stand by role that once a month runs my home for 4 hrs. 2600 hrs on it when I got it, 5900 now. Always starts within 3 cranks.
And not to mention that generacs are trash to begin with.
Ask a gen tech.
@Bill Williams
I was being a wise ass.
I'm a gen tech ....all my tech buddies aren't a fan of em and we have many laughs over their designs when it's beer thirty and we get together.
this is hands down the best asmr channel on youtube
Ahhr shes a beauty, nothing a hot cup of coffee and a cold easy chair wont fix.
"Remember kids the next guy is gonna be you." Words to live by right there I'll admit.
70s hustler bush. that brings back vivid images, reminds me of bin ladens beard
Pro tip : You need more rtv. I like to apply just enough so that I can take a caulking tool and smooth it in there like I'm putting a bathtub in. The next guy will remember your name I promise
I find it funny how 80kW sounds like a lot for a generator, but that's just 108 horsepower.
@Indosarnia True, true.
By direct math conversion, yes, but it takes a lot more than that from the engine to put that much down the wires. Those genny diesels are serious workhorses.
LazerLord10 ... Typical sizing of the engine for commercially available units is around 2 hp per Kw... plus or minus. Of course they round off based on available engine size, and rounding off to lower power is pretty typical in this category. The fact that this one has a turbocharger tells me they are trying to get a few more ponies out of it at 1800 rpm, which is also pretty common.
Yes just one hundred and eight horses
Just
@@Paid2Win ... direct conversion and not accounting for any losses does equal roughly 108 hp but chances are the engine has power to spare because they never design things that tight.
Two big wrenches and a microphone-----priceless!!
extra bolt is called a "shoulder bolt". throw over left shoulder if left hand thread or right shoulder if right hand thread .
{:-)
No make a fuckit bucket when it breaks fuck it went there lol
Pro-tip, use used engine oil to lubricate the oil filter o-ring, not grease or new oil. If your diesel fuel is as "high quality" as ours here in the US n' A, may want to throw in something like diesel kleen additive +cetane booster regularly and a quart of ATF every other tank full or so. Maybe some seafoam since the engine has sat for a while. Add some liqui-moly MoS2 or ceratec to the engine oil, will smooth out running and help the bearings live longer. I would've used "the right stuff" black rtv on earl pan.
Years and years of resealing sheet metal pans, particularly on 7.3l Internationals that seal like a $5 hooker, Permatex Right Stuff is the ticket.
I'll take and kick it up a notch. I like the "Ultra Black". As it's made for the professional.
@@Coffeebreak6329 great stuff
@@Coffeebreak6329 back in the day men like us may have competed but these days i think we all have a common bond because we realize we are a dying breed. cheers!
Occasional Cortex
Resealing is right had one at my shop we put 2 new pans on finally got it to seal up.
Right stuff . Great product.
Run-away diesels are a sight to behold- like seeing Santa for the first time, you will tear up and.... RUN!
U don't know but Vatican use run-away disels to signal "habbenus papa"
I saw my first runway last week on a redimix truck. The poor driver had no idea what to do
Diesel engines don’t run-away. Diesel engines overspeed, it’s the mechanics that run-away.
That's a point. Cars, SUVs and vans with runaway diesels on a motorway hard shoulder (UK) used to be a regular sighting but I've not seen one for at least a couple of years now.
Had that happen to me before when driving. Lucky I knew, that the engine was worn out, so it wasn't all the way unexpected, although it did happen on the Interstate. Left her in gear, made my way to the shoulder and put on the brakes. Left a huge smoke screen behind me.
once she lets the metal fall out, you have to take it apart to put it back in.
I’ve been a generator tech for 20yrs. Generacs(aka generjunks, or genercraps) are probably the most problematic of all the major OEMs. Your unit has the E-Panel controller. It is notorious for going into running alarms(lop, or het) when it is just sitting there not running. The phase selector switch is another treat.. You would be wise to never turn that while it is running. The internals of that thing is made of a ribbon candy like material. It becomes incredibly brittle, and causes things to touch that shouldn’t... Recontrol that unit with a DeepSea 7310 after you sort out the engine, and that’ll be a decent unit...
We have 3 16 cylinder, twin turbo cats where I work. 2 for water pumps and 1 for electric.
i learn so gawdamned much from you I had to subscribe... that and you're hilarious. You remind me of everyone i grew up with in Minnesota on the farm. Thanks for sharing.
Oh yeah, I see that snap on light. Quite the valuable empire of dirt for chickadee to inherit!
Your description of the fire hall sounds about correct. Our fire station has a generator as well but we run it under load, disconnected from the grid, for at least half an hour each month.
Always prefil the filter , using brand new oil anyways
I Have Never Seen Something this CLEAN In the Empire of Dirt .Poor Poor Cactus
Careful, that thing'll rattle Dewclaws last remaining teeth out!
That's a beautiful deal! You did well my friend!
I'm surprised you didn't notice the heat blueing on the rod bearing journal
Right? Or the pound of bearing material in the oil pan. They just tossed it back together and were like, “hey maybe nothing is wrong with it!” Turns out, there was.
You mean the bluing that resulted from the factory hardening process? If that was from a faulty bearing, that crankshaft would be seized. 2:13 they are obviously fully aware of a bearing problem and just curious what it will do, not sure why, but I assume for views more than the will to fixing it properly in the first place.
@@oBseSsIoNPC far faster to make this video than to make a video repairing it. this was more like a test rather than repair video
100% rite lack of running caused this problem ! As a generac mec ive seen this a lot when biodiesel has been used and a bio-fungicide has not been used in the fuel for long term storage, more than likely a plugged injector or injection pump caused a catastrophic failure ..good luck ...
" Whenever ya die, you'll ride in a Hearse.....there's nothin' so bad that couldn't be worse ".
Ohh boy...We GET to rebuild it. Not fair...not fair. You guys GET to have all the fun.
Co2 fire extinguisher. Fastest/ safest way to shut down a runaway engine.
I remember reading a publication from UK piston manufacturer Wellworthy in the '70s that recommended having a Halon fire extinguisher or two handy when starting an overhauled diesel.
I was once at a site where the power had gone out (lots of flooding locally) and they were running the standby generator. It was sized to be able to run three industrial gas turbines simultaneously (not that that was ever really needed) and so we went around the MCC turning on all the heaters and (in effect, dummy) loads that we could find to load up the generator for that exact reason
She sounds great with those Canadian Canknackiestands in her
The Power Shop guys deal with this stuff. All of our central offices are getting upgraded with new backup powerplants - the old Detroit Diesel 2-strokes have been scrapped. I know they follow a weekly run-up schedule, which I just learned from this video is crucial to them working when they're needed.
@mark robertson - I'm sure to the scrapyard. The oldest ones dated from the early 50s.
If it was owned by the fire department I'm guessing they might have a backup generator rated for that kind of load to run their a fancy big compressor to refill breathing air cylinders? As a firefighter that's a rather essential luxury to have when pissing water on the fires, it kinda helps keep you going for a while.
Why don't they use Liquid Air, or compressed O2 with a re-breather?
There are a lot of legit reasons for a station to have a generator. Its humor....
My son and I just rebuild a 7.3 liter turbo diesel it was fun and the first diesel I ever worked on.
I'd love to see the repair/rebuild of this clapped out generator engine..... :)
Great glob. Closing the covers on her was a good idea, rental companies do that every day and it werks. Looks like an okay engine to work on. Thanks AvE and DewClaw
As a firefighter, I resemble those remarks. haha :P
I gotta say I appreciate all of your videos.
Yes it's a win win.
But what did you even want it for?
High power Christmas lights in the garden?
That Haas is a power hungry beast.
You ever *been* to Kannuckistan?
It's for the compound.
@@pileofstuff
Haas?
@@randomuser778
Nope.
But it seems quite familiar.
Good generators 👍 we run those up in the muskokas where its mandatory to have one if building a home.
A few bananas in the oil pan will solve that knocking instantly!
Is that with or without the peelers?
@@Coffeebreak6329 without peelers in an engine, and with peelers in a gearbox or a differential, such as a rear axle on a car.
After fixing with banana, sell fast as hell 👍
@@Hivmannen69420 Strippers! Get it?..... Peeler's, it's a Canadian thing... living in northern Michigan has learnt me a thing er three.
@@Hivmannen69420 I'm a true blue through and through, but not that kind scammer....
I could watch this all day. I hope there are vids of the rebuild.