I think you are missing some critical pieces of information in your perspective that leaves out major gaps. I recommend using the KJV as a frame of reference as it is the best to use but also mind you I recommend reading the books of First Enoch & Jubilees which act as witnesses providing further context to Genesis with proper context of what happened. First Enoch and Jubilees is very important to understanding the theology clearer. The book of 2nd Esdras too helps. Some people study these books and include them in their Bible studies like the god culture youtube channel and a few others I watch from time to time like Eredin, Angelegend, Timothy Alberino, and Right Response Ministries use them in their studies understanding Bible theology, concepts, and the timeline of events and where they happened and why. The best thing about Jubilees is that it goes into unique detail about the locations of certain places like the Tower of Babel, sodom and gomorrah, and the timeline from then to the time of Moses.
The King James Bible is not a literal translation, i.e. it is not always a translation. At places it changes the story to say something different than what the original says. As my concern is with why the story cannot be read literally, I have referenced one of the more recent and more exact translations of the Bible, ESV. The Book of Enoch is not canonical. The locations of Sodom etc do not change the fact that there are no doors and windows on a solid firmament, that the Sun and moon are not lamps, that there are no waters above the atmosphere and that the earth is not flat. You can make a simple experiment and take a plant of your choice that exists in our world and submerge it in water for a few days. Few if any of land living plants would survive submerged in water for 150 days.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos What kind of logic are you asserting? There is plenty of evidence that there was a huge world wide Flood that fits the Bible and there are people who defend the Canonicity of the Book of First Enoch. Not to mention Jubilees and 2nd Esdras do defend First Enoch being canon. Notice to I was very specific with my words. First Enoch. Not second or third enoch those accounts have been tested by the god culture to be frauds which don't fit the Dead Sea scrolls in Qumran and are done by occult groups. Plus the nephilim's existence in the Bible is supported across these books and that they were a menace to mankind and the kingdom of Yahsar'el the 12 tribes.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos As I said the King James in the best we got. Is it perfect? No but it's the least corrupted we just have navigate, research history, and test the word as we go. What kind of logic are you asserting? There is plenty of evidence that there was a huge world wide Flood that fits the Bible and there are people who defend the Canonicity of the Book of First Enoch. Not to mention Jubilees and 2nd Esdras do defend First Enoch being canon. Please notice too I was very specific with my words. First Enoch. Not second or third enoch those accounts have been tested by the god culture to be frauds which don't fit the Dead Sea scrolls found in Qumran and are done by some very bad groups who dealt in should we say evil magic doctrines and outside strange theology God would reject. Qumran was a very good place that the sons of Zodak mentioned in Ezekiel operated in even during the life of Jesus and they rejected the institutions who took power over the kingdom who were appointed by the Hasmonean Dynasty after the Hasmonean revolt taht happened in 167 B.C. Groups like the pharisees and sadducees who began changing the word when they took power. The sons of Zodak rejected them even after they were exiled from the 2nd temple. If you are wondering about the Dead Sea Scrolls authenticity test the works of the Sons of Zodak and their faith in God. Plus the nephilim's existence in the Bible is supported across these books and that they were a menace to mankind and the kingdom of Yahsar'el the 12 tribes.
how does one deal with the fact that flood narratives occur all over the world, even among nativ peoples of the Americas? It seems to be a long-lost memory of an actual event.
The known narratives from the Near East, as I point out in the video, have similar mythological elements and are not historical records. There is no evidence of flood that covered the entire earth and destroyed all species and all humanity in the last few thousand years.
The 40 days and 40 nights is referencing the "Windows of Heaven were opened." Now if you read in the first chapter, it will tell you where this extra water came from. God said, "may the waters beneath the firmament be separated from the waters above the same firmament and the waters above is called Heaven, or the 1st Heaven. The 1st Heaven is completely oceans. This is where the extra water came from. The fountain of the Great Deep is the ring of fire busting forth. The separation of the landmasses is what come out of that event. Lol. The Bible does not specify how long Noah had to build the arch. I always read NKJV. Idk what you're reading. Lol.
Bro, where is your physical evidence of a global food?! Look up all the evidence for the Missoula floods. Huge amount of geological evidence of an apocalyptic flood that was local only to the PNW of the US. If there was a global flood I’d expect to see a huge flood deposit later all over the earth. Not to mention he points out that plants can’t survive in salt water?! Be religious all you want but don’t fool yourself into believing that the flood is literal. It’s mythical at best
If you are reading the King James Bible, it does not contain a literal translation. Nor does the Gideon Bible. So if you are interested in Bible literalism, you should be reading one of the modern translations such as the English Standard Version, International Standard Version (ESV), the New International Version (NIV), the New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition (NRSVUE) or some other version that is a more literal translation of the original.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos I have seen all the translations. The online Bible has every translation there is, plus the original texts as well, I can say the wording are different, but the overall meaning is the same regardless of which translation any person reads. The difference is understanding.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos Myself, I prefer the New King James Version. This translation matches how I speak and read more without all the back and forth that the King James Version gives.
@@REktSigMa - If we are talking about Bible literalism, the version of the Bible is important. One may even say even the most recent versions are not absolutely literal. If you follow Bible scholarship, I mean those scholars who are university educated and can understand Greek and Hebrew, then you can see that there are differences in the translations and that the older translations were not always very literal and they often convey a very different meaning from what was there in the original.
If you are reading the King James Bible, it does not contain a literal translation. Nor does the Gideon Bible. So if you are interested in Bible literalism, you should be reading one of the modern translations such as the English Standard Version, International Standard Version (ESV), the New International Version (NIV), the New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition (NRSVUE) or some other version that is a more literal translation of the original. I do not see any common sense in a solid firmament, with the stars and planets attached to it, above which there is water. Do you find that commonsensical? If so, you will find yourself with disagreement with most people, expecially outside the United States of America.
You are a boomer sooner I’m not surprised that you take the Bible literally living in the Bible Belt. I will say a handful of theistic geologist claiming a global flood happened is the fringe idea of geology. I studied geology and there are deposits of ash all over the states from volcanic eruptions, there are flood deposits from the Missoula floods, but there is no evidence of a global flood occurring at the same time. On the other hand, civilization started around rivers, rivers flood like crazy during 100, 500, and 1000 year floods. It’s an apocalyptic event that was known by the people that wrote the Bible. It’s very reasonable that they invoke the flood story because at the time there were plenty of flood stories it was a common thread among early civilization
Taking the Bible literally is a newer idea of Christian’s. Early Christian’s apparently didn’t take it as literally according to theologians who spend their lives studying this literature and history and language. You can be Christian all you want, but why hamstring yourself by saying genesis and other stories in the Bible are literal? It doesn’t have to be to believe that God set everything into motion and backed away. It’s what we observe in multiple disciplines with biology chemistry geology
@@homeofthefree8656 The stories from the epic of Gilgamesh contain similar mythological elements as the Bible story, they are myths not historical records. They all claim some god selected a person of their own religion (Zoroastrianism or some polythestic religion) to be saved and everyone else to die. They are, therefore, mutually exclusive. Taking the Bible literally is a new idea, practiced mainly in America by religious fundamentalists. It is unheard of in the rest of the Chrisitan world. Please name someone who was not an American religious fundamentalist has ever written anything in defense of religious fundamentalism.
The account says Noah didn't need to collect the animals himself. Fish are not LAND animals. Invertebrates can survive in water. Plants are not LAND ANIMALS and their seeds can survive in water. Your take on this is absolutely ignorant and ridiculous. The OT absolutely can be read literally with the parts that are intended to be literal. There are obviously figures of speech and poetic language. Try again.
Invertebrates and fish etc cannot live in just water, you obviously do not understand biology. The salinity of the water is important. Not any water will do. Moreover, many invertebrates have short lives and could not survive for 150 days. The problem with Bible literalists is that they have no understanding of science.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos I think God does change the orders of animal's living traits in certain situations. The aftermaths of the Flood and it's consequences did lead to God making some changes to animals such as letting some eat meat while before it was described they mainly ate plants and he did shorten Mankind's lifespan form 900 years overtime after the Flood as we seen in the timeline of the Bible each generation began living shorter and shorter years. After all the damages the nephilim and evil men did to the face of the Earth before the Flood there were many consequences and situations God had to change to preserve mankind and fulfill his promises.
God didn’t tell Noah to collect 7 pairs of every species, but kinds. Big difference. He would have needed less that 3 thousand different animals. Obviously wouldn’t need fish on a boat lol
@@NicholasAggelopoulos You have misquoted the passages from the Bible. Genesis 6:20 Of the birds according to their kinds and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground according to its kind, two of every kind shall come in to you, to keep them alive. "Shall come in to you" indicates Noah didn't have to do anything. Genesis 7:9 two and two, male and female, went into the ark with Noah, as God had commanded Noah. "Went into the ark with Noah" also indicates that Noah didn't have to do anything.
@@YouDontKnowMeSoYouDontKnowJack - As I said I quoted from the Bible, you can find it online. Search for English Standard Version. You can also read the other versions. I cannot give you a link because my message will be automatically deleted but you can find the literal translations of the Bible online.
I think you are missing some critical pieces of information in your perspective that leaves out major gaps. I recommend using the KJV as a frame of reference as it is the best to use but also mind you I recommend reading the books of First Enoch & Jubilees which act as witnesses providing further context to Genesis with proper context of what happened. First Enoch and Jubilees is very important to understanding the theology clearer. The book of 2nd Esdras too helps. Some people study these books and include them in their Bible studies like the god culture youtube channel and a few others I watch from time to time like Eredin, Angelegend, Timothy Alberino, and Right Response Ministries use them in their studies understanding Bible theology, concepts, and the timeline of events and where they happened and why.
The best thing about Jubilees is that it goes into unique detail about the locations of certain places like the Tower of Babel, sodom and gomorrah, and the timeline from then to the time of Moses.
The King James Bible is not a literal translation, i.e. it is not always a translation. At places it changes the story to say something different than what the original says. As my concern is with why the story cannot be read literally, I have referenced one of the more recent and more exact translations of the Bible, ESV. The Book of Enoch is not canonical. The locations of Sodom etc do not change the fact that there are no doors and windows on a solid firmament, that the Sun and moon are not lamps, that there are no waters above the atmosphere and that the earth is not flat. You can make a simple experiment and take a plant of your choice that exists in our world and submerge it in water for a few days. Few if any of land living plants would survive submerged in water for 150 days.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos
What kind of logic are you asserting? There is plenty of evidence that there was a huge world wide Flood that fits the Bible and there are people who defend the Canonicity of the Book of First Enoch. Not to mention Jubilees and 2nd Esdras do defend First Enoch being canon.
Notice to I was very specific with my words. First Enoch. Not second or third enoch those accounts have been tested by the god culture to be frauds which don't fit the Dead Sea scrolls in Qumran and are done by occult groups. Plus the nephilim's existence in the Bible is supported across these books and that they were a menace to mankind and the kingdom of Yahsar'el the 12 tribes.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos
As I said the King James in the best we got. Is it perfect? No but it's the least corrupted we just have navigate, research history, and test the word as we go.
What kind of logic are you asserting? There is plenty of evidence that there was a huge world wide Flood that fits the Bible and there are people who defend the Canonicity of the Book of First Enoch. Not to mention Jubilees and 2nd Esdras do defend First Enoch being canon.
Please notice too I was very specific with my words. First Enoch. Not second or third enoch those accounts have been tested by the god culture to be frauds which don't fit the Dead Sea scrolls found in Qumran and are done by some very bad groups who dealt in should we say evil magic doctrines and outside strange theology God would reject.
Qumran was a very good place that the sons of Zodak mentioned in Ezekiel operated in even during the life of Jesus and they rejected the institutions who took power over the kingdom who were appointed by the Hasmonean Dynasty after the Hasmonean revolt taht happened in 167 B.C. Groups like the pharisees and sadducees who began changing the word when they took power. The sons of Zodak rejected them even after they were exiled from the 2nd temple. If you are wondering about the Dead Sea Scrolls authenticity test the works of the Sons of Zodak and their faith in God.
Plus the nephilim's existence in the Bible is supported across these books and that they were a menace to mankind and the kingdom of Yahsar'el the 12 tribes.
how does one deal with the fact that flood narratives occur all over the world, even among nativ peoples of the Americas? It seems to be a long-lost memory of an actual event.
The known narratives from the Near East, as I point out in the video, have similar mythological elements and are not historical records. There is no evidence of flood that covered the entire earth and destroyed all species and all humanity in the last few thousand years.
The 40 days and 40 nights is referencing the "Windows of Heaven were opened." Now if you read in the first chapter, it will tell you where this extra water came from. God said, "may the waters beneath the firmament be separated from the waters above the same firmament and the waters above is called Heaven, or the 1st Heaven. The 1st Heaven is completely oceans. This is where the extra water came from.
The fountain of the Great Deep is the ring of fire busting forth. The separation of the landmasses is what come out of that event. Lol. The Bible does not specify how long Noah had to build the arch. I always read NKJV. Idk what you're reading. Lol.
Bro, where is your physical evidence of a global food?! Look up all the evidence for the Missoula floods. Huge amount of geological evidence of an apocalyptic flood that was local only to the PNW of the US. If there was a global flood I’d expect to see a huge flood deposit later all over the earth. Not to mention he points out that plants can’t survive in salt water?! Be religious all you want but don’t fool yourself into believing that the flood is literal. It’s mythical at best
If you are reading the King James Bible, it does not contain a literal translation. Nor does the Gideon Bible. So if you are interested in Bible literalism, you should be reading one of the modern translations such as the English Standard Version, International Standard Version (ESV), the New International Version (NIV), the New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition (NRSVUE) or some other version that is a more literal translation of the original.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos I have seen all the translations. The online Bible has every translation there is, plus the original texts as well, I can say the wording are different, but the overall meaning is the same regardless of which translation any person reads. The difference is understanding.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos Myself, I prefer the New King James Version. This translation matches how I speak and read more without all the back and forth that the King James Version gives.
@@REktSigMa - If we are talking about Bible literalism, the version of the Bible is important. One may even say even the most recent versions are not absolutely literal. If you follow Bible scholarship, I mean those scholars who are university educated and can understand Greek and Hebrew, then you can see that there are differences in the translations and that the older translations were not always very literal and they often convey a very different meaning from what was there in the original.
You need a KJV Bible to start with, then you need a healthy dose of common sense. Bacteria.....😂
If you are reading the King James Bible, it does not contain a literal translation. Nor does the Gideon Bible. So if you are interested in Bible literalism, you should be reading one of the modern translations such as the English Standard Version, International Standard Version (ESV), the New International Version (NIV), the New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition (NRSVUE) or some other version that is a more literal translation of the original.
I do not see any common sense in a solid firmament, with the stars and planets attached to it, above which there is water. Do you find that commonsensical? If so, you will find yourself with disagreement with most people, expecially outside the United States of America.
While I agree that it is difficult to read Gen literally, there are Geologists that point to evidence for a flood.
And Several flood stories before old testament. The epic of Gilgamesh 2000-1500 BC
You are a boomer sooner I’m not surprised that you take the Bible literally living in the Bible Belt. I will say a handful of theistic geologist claiming a global flood happened is the fringe idea of geology. I studied geology and there are deposits of ash all over the states from volcanic eruptions, there are flood deposits from the Missoula floods, but there is no evidence of a global flood occurring at the same time.
On the other hand, civilization started around rivers, rivers flood like crazy during 100, 500, and 1000 year floods. It’s an apocalyptic event that was known by the people that wrote the Bible. It’s very reasonable that they invoke the flood story because at the time there were plenty of flood stories it was a common thread among early civilization
Taking the Bible literally is a newer idea of Christian’s. Early Christian’s apparently didn’t take it as literally according to theologians who spend their lives studying this literature and history and language.
You can be Christian all you want, but why hamstring yourself by saying genesis and other stories in the Bible are literal? It doesn’t have to be to believe that God set everything into motion and backed away. It’s what we observe in multiple disciplines with biology chemistry geology
@@homeofthefree8656 The stories from the epic of Gilgamesh contain similar mythological elements as the Bible story, they are myths not historical records. They all claim some god selected a person of their own religion (Zoroastrianism or some polythestic religion) to be saved and everyone else to die. They are, therefore, mutually exclusive. Taking the Bible literally is a new idea, practiced mainly in America by religious fundamentalists. It is unheard of in the rest of the Chrisitan world. Please name someone who was not an American religious fundamentalist has ever written anything in defense of religious fundamentalism.
The account says Noah didn't need to collect the animals himself. Fish are not LAND animals. Invertebrates can survive in water. Plants are not LAND ANIMALS and their seeds can survive in water. Your take on this is absolutely ignorant and ridiculous. The OT absolutely can be read literally with the parts that are intended to be literal. There are obviously figures of speech and poetic language. Try again.
Invertebrates and fish etc cannot live in just water, you obviously do not understand biology. The salinity of the water is important. Not any water will do. Moreover, many invertebrates have short lives and could not survive for 150 days. The problem with Bible literalists is that they have no understanding of science.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos
I think God does change the orders of animal's living traits in certain situations. The aftermaths of the Flood and it's consequences did lead to God making some changes to animals such as letting some eat meat while before it was described they mainly ate plants and he did shorten Mankind's lifespan form 900 years overtime after the Flood as we seen in the timeline of the Bible each generation began living shorter and shorter years. After all the damages the nephilim and evil men did to the face of the Earth before the Flood there were many consequences and situations God had to change to preserve mankind and fulfill his promises.
God didn’t tell Noah to collect 7 pairs of every species, but kinds. Big difference. He would have needed less that 3 thousand different animals. Obviously wouldn’t need fish on a boat lol
I have quoted the relevant passages from the Bible, you can check for yourself if you are keen on Bible literalism.
@@NicholasAggelopoulos You have misquoted the passages from the Bible.
Genesis 6:20 Of the birds according to their kinds and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground according to its kind, two of every kind shall come in to you, to keep them alive.
"Shall come in to you" indicates Noah didn't have to do anything.
Genesis 7:9 two and two, male and female, went into the ark with Noah, as God had commanded Noah.
"Went into the ark with Noah" also indicates that Noah didn't have to do anything.
@@YouDontKnowMeSoYouDontKnowJack - As I said I quoted from the Bible, you can find it online. Search for English Standard Version. You can also read the other versions. I cannot give you a link because my message will be automatically deleted but you can find the literal translations of the Bible online.
But it literally happened this way, and the entire Bible is
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