Breaking Point Exposed! Rusted and Broken Suspension Nightmare in Chevy Silverado
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Finally, Ray gets to experience the joy of the rusted bolts that we have on almost every bolt in the white North!
That's what I was thinking! Every video he just use impact gun on every bolt-nut and they come undone! Not when you get to experience rust belt job's!
Clearly he doesn’t know that the smoke wrench is your friend with northern vehicles 😂
Take a 1300 mile roadsy North and hang out with Eric O for a week. You'll get to see "Vic" hard at work every day. Make for a great video series.
@@paullenzen2562New York uses a lot more salt & brine than most of the other Northeastern states.
New York cars are truly awful after just two winter seasons.
Great video as always Ray, I admire your dogged perseverance 👍🙂
General comment on Sawsall use (because you asked for comments). IF POSSIBLE, let the foot of the Sawsall butt against the work. It keeps the blade moving max distance relative to the piece you're trying to cut. Holding the tool in "space" allows the tool to move back and forth as much as the blade even though you try to hold it steady. Of course sometimes you just do what you can.
I would have to agree with paulmessinger, don't waste the energy in just making the saw vibrate!
not to mention, using the right sized blade for the right sized job is also critical.
I kept hearing Eric O in my head... "Use the torch, young Ray-walker. Trust in the torch." 🔥
I enjoy your videos very much. MANY years ago my daddy impressed upon me how special a good mechanic is. Too many "technicians" these days, and not enough mechanics. You are a good mechanic. Your community is lucky to have you.
We need more apprentices, they seemed to have become extinct lately. A company could save more in maintenance costs by supporting an apprenticeship program, as the knowledge would grow, not get lost to attrition.
Eric O sitting back with his popcorn 😂
L:laughing at the rust? He isn't that mean.
He feels sorry that Ray does not have a cutting torch.
Ray really needs a friend called Vic
I'm with you 10 times over with the gas can thing. I have spilled more than I ever have with all these safety features. Drives me crazy.
My old gas cans didn't have vents untill i ordered some and installed them. Now with the vents, and old school nozzels I'm like living in the 50's again. LOL
Honestly. There's no more concrete example of how dumb the government can be. These are rules made by people who've never mowed their own lawn. Every gas can I have has been converted to a 'water' can with the help of amazon parts.
I live up in Canada where a torch is a necessity. Btw I kept an old can or 6 that nobody has questioned yet!
Taking the stupid cap off and using a funnel is the only way I use over regulated gas cans
Amazon sells conversion kits.
I got the tree pack kit, and it worked perfectly!
Ray, did this job on a Wisconsin rust belt 1500 in a driveway and this video made me feel that sense of accomplishment all over again. Quite the struggle to get those rusty sunuvaguns removed. I appreciate your methods and your continual knowledge share!
Enjoyed watching you systematically tackle the challenges presented by those rusty bolts. It must make estimating labor very difficult. The 'car jail' finally answered the gate question too.
When replacing the hanger bolts for those shackles use the marine bearing grease for the bushing sleeves. It will keep them from seizing up. Ray get a induction heater designed to fit around the head of a bolt and the nut. By heating the bolt up the penetrating oil will flow around it in the sleeve
Or anti-seize?
Lot of work on that crusty Rusty, the customer must have a good love affair with that thing?
Love watching your videos here in the UK!
Agree that heat helps. In my day rusty bolts came out much easier after heating with oxy torch / cooling with spray lube, wait a bit while doing other bolts, re do the heat/lube. etc.
@@user-vb5qn2ch1fplot twist: The owner is blackmailing Ray and making him fix his truck for free.
I was working on the suspension of 2003 suburban yesterday. Two things jumped into my mind while watching this video. 1) Texas cars are awesome, 2) it’s much more fun watching someone struggle getting a bolt out than it should be allowed to be.
As a lifelong car owner seeing how the leafsprings operate was interresting! And yes, working on cars in part the "rust belt" (New England) is a beotch! Thanks for the education Ray, your videos are my treat to myself when I get home from work!
Defiantly brought back many memories working on everything from cars to heavy transport trucks. I live in the prairies in "Canadia" where the salt isn't so bad but worked on many coming in from Ontario and Quebec. But even some of our own units hauled calcium as well for roads and mines, that's when you just used a torch to take everything off. I'm glad you used new U-bolts, they all stretch and will come loose and that's when the spring can break right in between the U-bolts. Like so many people say here. they love watching you doing honest work, and getting it done right. After over 45 years and retired now, I know I made the right call in my profession a very long time ago, you my friend prove that to me time and time again.
You must be the only mechanic I know of that is happy to see rust so you can use your needle scaler, those of us in the rust belt would be happy to never see any rust again.
I'm glad I'm in lower rightside of texas
Luckily for Ray, rust is a novelty to him, that lucky dog...
Tip that might work for you, Ray.
You will notice that the bushings for the spring mounts are serrated. If you break the nuts loose by using a good pneumatic impact wrench on the bolt end it will often break the bolt free of the shackle bushing in the first turn because the serrated bushing ends are pinched between the spring perches. Once the bolt starts to turn hold the nut with a box end wrench and presto. The bolt is free to turn in the bushing.
Cheers!
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Never seize on some of those bolts going back in might help the next guy! That Canadian rust really bit you this time! Good job on removing the springs through the crust, love the channel, keep on wrenching Ray!
Ray, measure from center eye too locating pin/bolt from both ends to make sure there isn't a difference in length. And the center plates for the u-bolts to locate on top of the soring youll need to transfer over also, and the old bottom u-bolt plates are absolutely fine, just knock the dirt and loose rust off and a squirt of black paint and they'll be good as new. Just like your new shiny ones, and saving the customer a few bucks.
Being from Wisconsin it's not too uncommon for us to have to replace the frame mounts also, nice little buckets to hold all that wonderful salt and now the brine also !! Lol
Keep up the good work and wrench on and thanks for all the entertainment and sunny disposition.
Every time I see the carnage created by vehicles that live in the north, I thank God ah'm a Texas boy!!! LOL
Good work-arounds on getting things removed, Ray - having been a "fleet maintenance guy" early in my career, it taught me it wasn't something I wanted to do on the daily - but I love watching someone like you come up with ways to get the job done!!
I envy you brother. The northeast sucks when it comes to work on vehicles.
I live up north, it is cold and icy, an our vehicles rust, but we don’t have devastating hurricanes, fewer tornadoes and floods, and I hate the heat an humidity.
@@smplloydIt's just as humid in the north, especially in the summer. I'm the opposite, I like the heat compared to the cold. I'm a mailman and spend usually up to 7 hours in the cold. When the wind gets going, you may as well be wearing nothing... it goes right through you.
Road salt, plus moisture, plus temperature cycles equals total disaster.
Hey Ray. Hang on to the old springs. That heavy metal comes in really handy. You can find a thousand uses for them. They make great spacers and backers whenever you need them for pulling/installing bearings, etc.
I cut pieces out of the old springs.......good metal for brackets or prying!!
Great for making home made knives too!
@@larryberry2436 you must watch the "Forged With Fire" show as well.
Add old lawn mower blades to the "Save" list!
Yep!! Gonna say the same thing..at least one of them
Eric O would be proud, Ray. That was one heck of a battle and tool line-up.
i love to see how you came from an employe to employer, love to see how your bisnes grow
Working on those rust belt truck is a real challenge! Nice to see some potential solutions! Using the penetrating oil is a great start!
Ray, you now own half of Canada. It's all over your floor. 😂 love your videos.
This was an interesting video, Ray. You get so excited when you get to use a new tool even if it was to remove Canadian Rust 😂 You win this challenge of removing the rust as heck bolts. Great job finding the broken leaf spring. May the AI of Algorithm raise the views.
WOW, what a bunch of rust! But you prevailed!
I'm sure I'm not the only one wishing you used a torch to heat up the super rusted parts(watch some more ERIC O). Also, HOPEFULLY you will use anti-seize on the new bolts just as you use massive amounts of silicone on your spark plug boots?? They make it for a good reason, as you have just experienced.
Yes the bolt is not seized if it is liquid...
Hey Ray! Any thoughts to putting a coating of anti-seize on those shackle bolts before you reinstall those leaf springs to slow down the rust?
Even though though those would likely never be replaced, I would coat them. My son just had to replace the bumper on a truck that we had to pull and replace on his truck 4 years ago. The original ones took several hours. After hitting a deer the ones we installed with never seize came off in minutes. We never thought we would pull those out again either.
I use copper grease on any bolts which pass through bushings - makes sure the rubber isn't being twisted by a seized in bolt.
I use neverseize on all bolts that rust, I may never take them out again but who knows I might and it doesn't take long to rust up here.
That sounds like a great solution, as long as the anti-seize doesnt attack the rubber...
@@dcbacon1 Yup. A dab'l do ya! Just a light coat between the bolt and metal sleeve.
Always appreciate watching these. As someone from the arid southwest, these are problems we don’t encounter often.
I agree with some others, this is Academy Award stuff. More leaf spring videos.
Thanks
Good job dealing with those nasty bushings. Special thanks to the engineer team that placed the bolt in bassackwards.
yeah...always WONDER'd WTH the head of long bolts are always installed to the SHORT SIDE on spring mounts-it shouldn't matter...when replacing, I've always install 'em the other way for the "next time" when possible and my vehicles have never fell apart on me (things that make ya go "hmmm???")..also, I think the whole concept of "torsion bars" is a DUMB-ASS concept...when I go to Hell, I pray I meet up w/these "engineers", along while the inventor of 4 way stop signs, phillips screws and traffic circles ;-)
Probably done that way for assembly. Automotive engineers do not worry about getting things apart again. More time and money for the dealer.
@@ronhall9040 sprung is sprung, doesn't really matter how you do it. It was even used by porsche & VW and this is exactly how F1 suspension is engineered. I think the only reason coiled springs are everywhere is because once they've been designed and manufactured there's economies of scale to be had and no one wants to pay for the development of alternatives.
Hi Ray, on the forward bolt, if you had cut the nut end of the bolt flush with the bracket (which was easier to reach with the cutting wheel) you would have have shortened the bolt enough to slide it out past the tank without cutting off the head.
How can you tell? It looks pretty close in there...
Living in New England and doing most of my own mechanical work in my driveway, I feel your pain, Ray. Every car I ever worked on was badly rusted. I learned to love my propane torch and wish I'd had access to pneumatic tools. Your videos are a joy to watch because I'm seeing methods used I never even thought of. I learn so much from you Ray.
Really admire your determination and persistence.
Have a 2001 Silverado and I have managed to keep 90% of the rust from eating my vehicle away, a good shot of undercoating every year or every couple of years is definitely needed if the vehicle is from Canada, every time a shop looks at the underside of my 2001 Silverado when it's in for servicing they asked me right off the bat you want to sell your truck, the quality of the metal back in the 2000 to 2010 is definitely a stronger more durable metal than some of these newer trucks , love watching the channel Ray you definitely inspire me the way you can get some things done without going the full hundred yards to get one thing done, like the bolt on those leaf springs and the gas tank being in the way to take it out properly, I really do like how you can get a job done without taking the whole vehicle apart for a small part to be replaced. Thanks again, look forward to the next video take care and say hi to the wife unit for me she's awesome .
Ray, you should keep the spring leaf and use them as a crow bar when needed. Sometimes, the regular crow bar isn't wide enough or have the leverage you need. Also, because they have that curve you can bypass some cramped spaces.
Edit: Spelling correction.
Welcome to the world of rust Ray! Been there done that. Keep up the great work 🇺🇸✌️
For what it's worth, you need to get the more aggressive metal teeth diablo blades. They would have got the bolts better. Stay safe, I enjoy your content.
Hi Ray, always fun to watch you work with a more realistic real world job where there is more rust than fastener to work with! Living on the south west coast of West oz there isnt any snow etc to deal with but the constant Salt in the air from the ocean sets up some really efficient Iron oxidation and i find myself watching your videos wishing i could have exhaust or suspension projects that even remotely were a tiny bit as easy as what you deal with. So this is just a message for the YT algorithm but i thought i might as well say something.
I shamefully admit that seeing you struggle with rust-welded parts is entertaining. I live in the heart of Snowhio and have fought the battle many many times. I appreciate your persistence and good humor.
keep up the great work , your videos are something I look forward to everyday
Great part one, Ray! Can’t wait to see part two.
Great video as always Ray. Just an observation re the ride height check. When checking for body tilt using the method you employed, it is always good practice to check tyre (tire) profile and tyre pressure first. Keep up the excellent work.
How you have the patience is more than a miracle ray! God bless you! Id have given up but you did it again!!! Great video! Thanks ray!
Also I agree about the gas cans, the newer they are the harder they are to use without getting covered in gas, that is so real safety! Up North we need lots of gas cans too, snow blower, lawn mower space heater.
I'm glad they haven't applied their safety feature to beer cans...
There are kits of new plastic parts to convert gas containers to the old-fashioned style that won't cover you in gas or create a pool of gas at your feet, like the new "safe" ones do. If you get one of these, be sure to modify the drill bit used to install the vent cap. It must be resharpened so that the cutting edge is 90 degrees to the surface it is cutting, then it won't grab the work and crack the plastic.
The timing of this video is uncanny! Here you are, hacking the rear suspension off a pickup; here I am, hacking the rear suspension off my 72 Jimmy! It was kind of neat to step outside the garage, and here the sawing and wrenching going on.
Watching you reinforces my decisions to let someone else skin their knuckles doing the job. Great vid Ray!
Hi ray, years ago I was working as a wheel alignment tech, when checking the suspension height . Need to jack the front up when measuring the rear, and vice versa. That way they are not influencing each other. Also the tape measure goes to the bottom edge of the rim, not the floor because the tyre could be under inflated or worn. Great vids ray regards.
Each vehicle has its own correct way to check for ride height. How Ray did it is a quick and easy way to check especially on a truck as they can get quite complicated. In America it is spelled tire by the way
Oxygen acetylene torches would have been brought out immediately in my garage 😂😂😂
Good vid. Rather enjoyed this one. Thanks for keeping this old man supplied with new automotive knowledge and much needed mirth. You rock! Merry Christmas to y'all! ❤🙏✝️🎄🕊️
A good video to show that you don't always need a gas axe to remove rusted parts, but you do really need to make the time to find yourself a good quality replacent torch Ray, it'll make some jobs a lot easier! Eric at South Main Auto would be totally lost without his torch up in the rust belt.
That said, great videos Ray, you do good work and produce great videos, keep up the good work 🙂
I would have broke out the blue crescent first thing. time is money. not saving parts anyway.
Wasn't it Eric that told us it was called a "gas axe"? I love it...
Love the content!!! I always love watching a fellow mechanic do a thero and honest job!! Wishing I could be doing the work again but resent events won't allow me to be able to do it anymore. I will have to live vicariously through you and continue to watch all the content you share. Keep up all the great work.
Sorry about whatever interferes with your wrenching, I love to do my own work, and watching Ray helps me understand how to do it right.
I love your work Ray. As a journeyman tradesman in another trade, I can appreciate your knowledge and skills. I just can't figure out how you do so much of your work with only one hand since you are holding the camera with your other hands.
Oh the joys of being a mechanic in Canada, or anywhere in the winter rust belt.
If the customer gets the vehicle undercoated with rust inhibitor or even sprays the undercarriage with transmission fluid on an annual basis, it is unbelievable the difference it makes working on the vehicle.
Good luck with it.
Ray, really enjoyed this video as didn’t realise how these things were so difficult to change. Keep up the amazing content, we really do enjoy it. From ‘Us Two’ here in Wales 🏴 UK
Call me LoCo but for some crazy reason this is my favorite RRR video!
And I have seen ALL of them!
Something about the sheer power and will it took to remove those bolts and the unforced comedy that ensued.
I'll admit there's been some clunkers lately. But that is to be expected with the sheer volume of content that you put out each week. I even clicked 'Subscribe' today. Yup after about two years I finally smashed that subscribe button - going up!
I've also sent a number of clients to the shop this year and every one of them made the channel.
Eventually a couple of my vehicles will make it in on jobs I can't or don't want to do myself.
More Loud Noises!
GREAT video Ray! My grandson and I enjoy watching your videos together and we both find them to be entertaining and informative. Keep them coming!
I don't usually comment on anything, but because you asked, your "get it done" mentality inspires me to keep moving myself
Ray, I have a Sawzall blade that I received as a sample from a salesman that has carbide/ diamond teeth that will cut through those hardened bolts with ease. You may want to find out if they are available. I think that it came from MSC.
I've been using the carbide teeth blades made by Diablo for years. They are great, normally. However, in tight spaces. They can cut to large of a swath.
Good video Ray. Fighting rust is a pain. Although I think those broken exhaust bolts are the worst.
You are right, combine the rust belt with the exhaust system and you have mechanical hell.
Ray. As you mentioned at the beginning of the video, the gas tank is empty. You might be able to loosen it off just enough to get the upper bolt in.
I did it this way on my old 2003 Silverado. It was just enough space.
😊 reminds me of when I had the rear springs on my 1970 Australian Chrysler Valiant rear springs reset and an extra leaf added for stiffer ride. Our Valiant? Your 1968 Dodge Dart. Ish. No rust here though as Np snow or salt on our roads. Really enjoyed a session on old fashioned lead spring setup! ❤
Hi Ray awesome video that’s was a lots of hard work I enjoyed it and as always you and you’re families be safe and also Dave families 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great camera effect with the rust /dust storm on are view of it made it look much bigger than it was (even though no special effects were used)I live in Mich so I can relate to the rust
Ray's videos are the best, always well lit, and he is very careful to make sure the camera is positioned right. I just wish his magnets were stronger, so they overcome gravity better.
Ray, Canada is wanting that half of Alberta back. Its laying all over your shop floor.
On Rangers up here that weren't maintained with rust proofing, often the spring hanger assembly you are delicately chopping around fail and you can actually replace the whole damn thing by unbolting it from the frame (oh, joy, bliss, MORE rusted bolts). When the perches get this bad, the truck is usually scrapped but as they say, where there's a will, there's a way. The 2000 GM you are presently working is remarkably preserved. I saw one the other day with a box that looked like the Jaws shark had eaten away wheel opening. I can only imagine what that frame looked like.
Love the gas can rant! I feel the same way...
Multiply that times my seven gas cans...
I run recreation fuel (%100) gasoline and never have any problems with my small engines, was great advice from my small engine repair shop. About $1 a gallon but well worth it,
Seems to me that Chicanic said the same thing about gas. But the prepackaged 2 cycle gas wasn't always the freshest, so be careful there.
Hey Ray. As always solid video. Working on suspension stuff from the rust belt is the worst. I always think you’re spoiled working on stuff in the south. Lol. Keep the quality content coming. As always enjoy your weekend.
Great job as always, Ray. Keep 'em coming!
Nice work Ray. It's been great following you since back in the dealership days. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
From experience its better to wire brush all the bolts before you use penetrating oil as it allows the oil to get where you need it. also some anti seize on the bolts through bushes on assembly will help the next guy!
In rust belt Northern Ontario, Canada. I admire your patience on all your projects, 35 years ago while working in garage the bolts on these would have been taken care of by our special wrenches called “Liquid”
Fantastic, loved seeing all that rust going flying away.
Did anyone notice the thermometer that ray left in the center vent.
Yep. I was just scrolling through the comments to see if someone had already noted that 😉
Ray i don't usually question what you do but cutting the bolt on the front of the leafspring next to gas tank and having sparks fly on top of tank is very dangerous if it has the smallest leak you might not be doing anymore videos my friend. You should have at least stuck something blocking the sparks from going on top of the tank. Such as a welders cape. Please be careful.
OMG
You should probably make this your last time you question what he does honestly.
Well thats a dumb ass reply...@Gizmetti
2wd in Canada is actually just fine, they go well in snow
Really? Lol . If there's no fumes or actual fuel there's no issue
Lost count of the times I’ve been in that position with seized bushings and trying to remove them. Always adds time to the job that isn’t in the timings. I’ve started to use poly bushes with stainless steel inserts. Broken springs in the UK are a very common thing now with the lack of maintenance and also the addition of traffic calming bumps…love the videos and your commentary too. Keep up the great work…
This is the stuff we want to see Raymond.
Even if it's not personally relevant to our own vehicles it's great to watch.
I tell everyone, including women (a sexists would say), that they should watch your content so they know what's involved in maintaining cars.
That way you can have an idea of what you are bring quoted for if you need the job doing on your own vehicle.
Until my present car, I only once before owned a brand new one. My first car on this continent was a monster, old Pontiac Grand Prix. What I mean with monster, is the weight. I also nearly fully avoided any work on my cars, with the exception of having a set of winter tires on their own wheels, allowing me an easy change every spring and fall. The one exception I recall was replacing the starter solenoid on that Monster one. That took place in front of my apartment home. If I still remember, the job took over an hour with me lying on my back mostly on the asphalt. Oh, I also replaced (temporarily) a bolt and nut on the rear suspension of my second car, which started wild swaying of the whole rear once, when I drove over a (slightly!) bumpy rail crossing. Given all that, I have later depended on official repair businesses. However. I quickly subscribed to Ray’s videos once I realized what gem he is.
Another well-done repair video, Ray. J know the entire job isn't finished yet, but the hard part is over. RUST, RUST & more RUST! Plus, bolts that don't want to come out. The life of a mechanic.
Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!
Awesome video Ray! I even felt a sense of relief (or victory) when you got that first bolt out of that bracket! Well done sir…well done!
I have an 03 Z71 that I purchased new and due to filling bed with tools, hunting and farming gear, and the weight of a cover, I put 1" spacer blocks and longer shackles under mine. Wish I had watched this video before!! Now she needs a new rear main seal and after watching the vids on this I`m paying someone much younger and with good knees to do mine!!
Advice from the rust belt... TORCHES! Although not advisable near the tank, perfectly fine everywhere else. And since you're working on a Canadian truck, you must measure everything in metric. Try it, you'll like it.
We are supposed to resist that in the USA. One of the most hated things in the US Auto assembly plants was a Metric fastener. 'Course the cars were all metric, go figure.
Nice demonstration or heavy parts and rust so we can decide if it's worth it to tackle such a job. For so much rust the frame did not look too bad.
19:29 You can hear the excitement in your voice when your gnna start the job at hand, I can tell you really love what you do.
So Ray Ray went from a Car Dealership Shop, to owning his own business, as well as a UA-cam business. Now Ray Ray does 2 Cycle and 4 Cycle small engine repair. Anyone who needs small engine repair can go to Rainman Ray's Repairs.
Here just below the 45th parallel in the fantastic Washington. We get our share rain and cold weather. My dad moved back from Arizona and drove his truck from Arizona. It is a 2wd furd f-one hundred fifty. He drove it all cold and rainy days just fine without having 4x4.
I am a old retired master tech. I like the way you make videos. Keep it up!
Good to see you are still going, last time I saw a video was just after the Hurricane! Great video.
I would coat the bolts and threads with anti seize but I think the new springs will outlast the truck.
Greeting from Jamaica 🇯🇲 . Big up yourself and the wife unit .You are doing a fantastic job.Keep working together and keep being kind to each other.
we used to replace springs on hgv trucks years ago before air suspension took over and we never replaced the whole spring . it was just the broken spring . and even that didnt come from a parts centre . it came from a blacksmith that only did leaf springs .
Thank you for all your videos 😊
ALWAYS enjoy watching every video of yours!! You do make me laugh a lot!!
Working on trucks in the North, we learn to use a cutting tourch on bolts that are rusted in to bushings.
The shop is looking great.
Hey Ray, liking the videos. Keep up the great work!
Cut the bolt on each side. Take a thin welders chisel with a bolt dia cut out in the middle. Pound it on each side in between bushing and bracket- frame mount . It’s ready to pry out!!! Works pretty good!!👍👍👍👍
Right on with the suspension rebuild RAY! good stuff.
Great job! You persisted and so far so good! Always enjoy watching your work.
I love the multi-part video's on vehicles like the truck! You have an amazing amount of patience...I would have taken a torch to that truck after the second video! Thanks for the entertainment...and informative video's!
I also commend your attention to detail and all the hard work you put in on this job