A Dragon Rises (House Velaryon) - CK3 AGOT RP Ep.7

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  • @VelascoAnastasi
    @VelascoAnastasi 7 місяців тому +84

    I think Monford, after his recent fame of winning the Battle of the Fork, would have earned the respect of the King and Lords Paramount. He’s earned his place to marry with one of the great houses of Westeros, and Margaery has great inheritables.

  • @aidanolson9247
    @aidanolson9247 7 місяців тому +47

    Monford in this playthrough has a lot of similarities to Corlys during the Dance of the Dragons, supporting multiple claimants while trying to elevate his family

  • @mysteryjunkie9808
    @mysteryjunkie9808 7 місяців тому +50

    Marry Margery and you can get the Reach support to push Jon claims and you can get your daughter as Queen and grandchild on the Iron Throne. Have a Grand Wedding to increase the prestige of your House. Also Saaldor San needs to watch his back you’re coming for his head.

    • @viewer8734
      @viewer8734 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Trippels-c6f Monford in this playthrough had been fighting for the Targaryens claimant since 18 years old I'm pretty sure at this point he would do anything to achieve it

  • @janrussellheeringa1997
    @janrussellheeringa1997 7 місяців тому +54

    Waiting for Dany is what my heart wants, but Margaery is a good political choice

  • @MachivelianBear
    @MachivelianBear 7 місяців тому +26

    After defending Driftmark in a war that is lost to history, Lord Montford continues his war against the Bastard King. Having had some bad results in the earlier part of the war, many Westerosian Lords jokingly mocked for only being a tourney knigth. Montford had to prove his worth. Seeing his chance by baiting the Lannister armies in a battle at Great Fork he intends to lock them in while the main Barratheon armies come in at the rear. But with his smaller force at neerly breaking point, Lord Montford finally hears the battle horns of the Barratheons arriving, smashing into the Lannisters rear, the well equipped Westerlander army of the Lannister get squashed from both sideøs as the encircling manuevrer is complete. Trapped in the chaos is Jamie Lannister who suffers fatal injuries and dies of the consequences. With victory at hand a blank page exist's in the historical records as we do not know how Renly captured the bastard King Maric, but we know he swiftly executed him and sat himself upon The Iron Throne, restoring Barratheon control.
    The people of Westeros finally sigh in the hope that peace has finally arrived. But news from the north make the people loose their hope's. Because the bastard son of Rhaegar Targaryan is reveled to be Eddard Starks nephew Jon Snow. Jon has gotten himself a landed title, and seeing a new chance to serve the Targaryan bloodlin, the Velaryons quickly eye their chance to join the dragon-house's again. What will coem of this? Can Renly tamte the lande or is it true what they say about Westeros? That only a Valyrian may tame it?
    FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON DRAGONBALL Z! :p
    (If the episode is gonna be weird then my chronicle is also gonna be :P)

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  7 місяців тому +4

      Great recap! 😂😂😂

  • @robertmihaltan3310
    @robertmihaltan3310 7 місяців тому +66

    I think the best marriages for Monford would be with Margaery,Tyene "Sand" or with Daenerys if she shows up.

    • @Sangfroid1973
      @Sangfroid1973 7 місяців тому

      Yh I think so margaery will be the best option

  • @SolarBrain4128
    @SolarBrain4128 7 місяців тому +15

    As great as having Valyrian blood would be, once it came out that Jon was Targaryan, all eyes went to house Velaryon to see what they would do. They exposed the last king as being an incestuous bastard, broke Tywin's armies, and as soon as Jon's secret was revealed, Monford betrothed his eldest daughter to him. All signs point to Monford being a powerful threat to the status quo and would make a lot of Lords nervous, even Renly, whom Monford helped put on the throne. If Monford were to marry a daughter of one of the great houses of Westeros, such as Margaery, then it might make a few lords feel less worried about him or more likely to join him if he backs Jon's claim to the throne.

  • @thedreamingsage
    @thedreamingsage 7 місяців тому +10

    Margaery is unfortunately not Valyrian, but Monford would probably be proud to marry a daughter of a Lord Paramount.

  • @FantiniBlake
    @FantiniBlake 7 місяців тому +15

    Marry Margaery. If Danaerys shows up, you reassess your options. You need to secure a male heir ASAP.

    • @12354rony
      @12354rony 7 місяців тому +1

      Not really, the succession in this mod is primogeniture, so even if you don't have a male heir it's not too bad. Also, It'll be different to play as a female for a change.

    • @FantiniBlake
      @FantiniBlake 6 місяців тому

      @@12354rony Right, but besides the usual preoccupation from male lords on securing a male heir, your daughters are betrothed to marry normally, not matrilineally, right? So House Velaryon's rule would end with said daughter since her kids by Jon would be Targaryens.

  • @HenT8991
    @HenT8991 7 місяців тому +5

    If Jon pushes his claim and house baratheon is extinct it might be interesting to see you become Lord paramount of the storm lands but based on driftmark still. Also might be fun to get an heir and a spare and give one to the Kings guard of Jon/Aegon.

  • @DozleZabi
    @DozleZabi 7 місяців тому +7

    Absolutely cursed save lmao

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  7 місяців тому +2

      This episode in particular was trying my patience lol

  • @princeofcrowss
    @princeofcrowss 7 місяців тому +5

    I vote Margaery. Monford has proven himself in battle, he was amongst those that put Renly on the throne by revealing Maric’s bastardy. It makes sense that he’d be in Renly’s favour and the Tyrell’s would see that.

  • @nealjroberts4050
    @nealjroberts4050 7 місяців тому +2

    Looks like Margaery is the prime candidate as a wife.
    Also puts you in position to assist your son in law if he decides to become king.

  • @Bavio
    @Bavio 7 місяців тому +4

    I know you're going to put the poll up, and I'll make sure to vote, but I would say let Jon make his own decisions about if he wants to push his claim, but push it for him if Renly dies without an heir. Margery would make a good match, too. Not Valyrian, but desperate times call for desperate measures...

  • @aye-jephthahnengimote709
    @aye-jephthahnengimote709 7 місяців тому +5

    Evetho with the new dripppp!!! I love it😤

  • @anthonyh.2957
    @anthonyh.2957 7 місяців тому +1

    Since this is an RP, I think holding out for Daenaerys is a little out there unless you wanna retcon in him being involved with a pro Targ plot like Doran's.
    I'd go for either Margaery for the Reach, or one of the Sand Snakes/that Dornish princess to consolidate the Pro Targ Bloc.

  • @ilduce4298
    @ilduce4298 6 місяців тому

    That battle at the beginning was crazy

  • @kimkjeldsen9684
    @kimkjeldsen9684 7 місяців тому +2

    I agree with some here, while I want to say wait for Dany as that would be an awesome storyline and makes a lot of sense. It's just too risky as you need a son and we don't even know if she will show up. Margeary is the safer choice and my second choice anyway so yeah, Margeary.

  • @Neirikr
    @Neirikr 7 місяців тому +6

    It is nice to see the AI take advantage of internal revolts! Essosi politics was exactly what I hoped for with this series, and the Tyroshi invasion coupled with the alliance with Myr certainly delivers (not to mention the pirates!). Shame it was lost to recording limbo, but I appreciate the recap.
    Was there another faction that pressed demands? Like a dissolution faction or something? That might have had some weird interactions the mod's revolt mechanics. I think your solution is more than fair, in any case-the war getting invalidated is by far the least interesting outcome.
    Since Jon Snow is Eddard's vassal, I think Eddard is the only one who can launch a faction to install his nephew on the throne. Good Ol' Ned might need some _encouragement_ to do that. Alternatively, you could make it so that Jon loses his lands and comes to your court, in which case you could push his claims yourself. However, Eddard obviously has a better chance to succeed. Howland might have forced his hand there-King Renly (or some of his councillors) might well want Jon dead, so the only place Lyanna's child is truly safe is on the throne.

    • @12354rony
      @12354rony 7 місяців тому +1

      Being on the throne is the least safe place I could imagine one being lmao

    • @Neirikr
      @Neirikr 7 місяців тому +1

      @@12354rony Well, maybe in a general sense... But in this specific scenario, overthrowing the regime that wants to kill you might increase your chances of survival somewhat.

  • @EpicBurritto
    @EpicBurritto 7 місяців тому +3

    Margaery is a good choise but considering she is chaste and you need a male heir now rather than later and monford is nearly 40. I think Tyene sand is the best choise, her personality fits far better with monfords compared to any others.

    • @EpicBurritto
      @EpicBurritto 7 місяців тому

      Also monford and oberyn scheming to put a targareyan on the throne would be cool. Although oberyn would more likely want to install deanerys on the throne and monford seems more like the type that would want a king instead of a queen. And the Martells are more loyal to the Targareyans compared to the Tyrells who seem to just back the winning team. But them trying to put a targareyan on the throne but neither realizing they are not supporting the same targareyan would be very game of thrones.

  • @damienc.6448
    @damienc.6448 7 місяців тому +2

    You should marry Lady Margaery.
    From a practical point of view, all the other interesting prospects are still too young and, as you yourself pointed out, you need to get a male heir ASAP.
    From a roleplay point of view, this would not only give you a prestigious marriage to a powerful family, it would also gain you a powerful ally in the coming war to restore the Targaryens. (Let's not forget that the Tyrells fought against Renly and so might be looking to out him before he outs them.)

  • @DarkAbyss550
    @DarkAbyss550 7 місяців тому +3

    love the series alot, only complaint is the videos are not long enough lol keep it up tho

  • @wyattmacmillan7148
    @wyattmacmillan7148 7 місяців тому +1

    I will say there is not much choice in the good marriage out there, but we do as a community to pick the best one for you.
    -Cheezit3452.

  • @ThatDarth
    @ThatDarth 7 місяців тому +6

    Margaery would provide the best options IMO
    everyone else is too young or irrelevant.
    Reach was also Targ supporters so better to get them to back you if you push Jons claims.
    Also as of right now Danny isn't in the mod as far as I know. you will likely get a blackfyre event soon though based on your year
    so might be best to wait to see how that plays out before pushing Jons claims.
    He might "not want it" anyway

    • @Badstrategies
      @Badstrategies 7 місяців тому

      Daenerys is in the mod I got her once. Though she is less likely than fAegon

  • @АнтонКозак-и4ц
    @АнтонКозак-и4ц 7 місяців тому

    Mariage with Margaery can be Monford's prize and punishment for Tyrells for supporting "the wrong side"

  • @ZimbolicalMayhem
    @ZimbolicalMayhem 7 місяців тому +1

    Hm... Marying Margery in order to have them for the Dragon Return War would be best

  • @muhammadhabibieamiro3639
    @muhammadhabibieamiro3639 7 місяців тому +2

    Let's Go i have been waiting for this episode

  • @deankirkby8047
    @deankirkby8047 6 місяців тому

    When Renly Heard the truth of the lost Targaryen prince, he stepped away from the throne. So, he could be the lord paramount as one of the last of his house.
    I am unhappy with your choice.

  • @mercyriddle
    @mercyriddle 7 місяців тому

    I think the Margery marriage just makes so much sense it can't be overlooked.
    And i think its pretty easy to justify, the realm is in turmoil, the great houses in upheaval and Monford is a rising war hero, from an old house and hasn't had a male heir yet, so the Tyrell's can hope to get their blood to inherit.
    I think they'd take a smaller but stable house at the moment vs one of the great houses that could fall apart.
    As for Jon, im a huge sucker for my boy jon snow, i absolutely support the push for Jon as king.
    The Baratheons have fallen apart, and the idea of Ned hiding away a legitimate heir out of fear of Baratheon and Lannister violence would definitely ignite the passions of the Targaryen loyalists.

  • @Randazz077
    @Randazz077 7 місяців тому +1

    I think waiting for Daenerys would be awesome but what if she never comes? Lol. At this point I’m with Margery all the way. Especially if you’re going to back Jon Snow for the throne. That’s a great alliance to have. Also if you can make yourself lord paramount of dragon stone if that’s a thing for assisting so much with the war (starting it and essentially ending it).

  • @ShadowWolfRising
    @ShadowWolfRising 7 місяців тому

    I think the Bastard from Dhorne would bring in good traits into the bloodline if we don't wait for Daenrys.
    I think we should go North of the Wall from some easy lands, and give some of them to our Dothraki Knight with Cultural Protection so we can start getting some Dothraki in our Court.
    As well as Searching for Wun Wun, with the same plan but for the idea of Creating a Culture and Line of Valyrian Giants.

  • @Badstrategies
    @Badstrategies 7 місяців тому

    Marrying Margaery would consolidate the backing of House Velaryon and maybe restore your houses lost power. You should try to rebuild the citadel of High Tide

  • @nicholasmaryniak3815
    @nicholasmaryniak3815 7 місяців тому +1

    So howland reed gave up the truth of jon snows lineage? I wonder how Ned feels about that? But he was there, he would know. Anyways, Margery Tyrell for wife.

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  7 місяців тому +3

      I did notice afterward that Howland was on his deathbed with a brain injury, so that might have explained why he felt the need to get that information out to the world rather than take it to the grave.

    • @nicholasmaryniak3815
      @nicholasmaryniak3815 7 місяців тому

      @@StrayKing or Ned brained him for outing the situation. Lol!

  • @Estel_98
    @Estel_98 7 місяців тому +3

    Margaery could good but Danerys is best. But you marriaged your daughter with Jon ? Which Targaryen will take your support ?

  • @FantiniBlake
    @FantiniBlake 7 місяців тому

    Clearly lord Monford's eldest daughter needs to marry Jon Snow. High time a Targaryen and his Velaryon queen sat the Iron Throne of Westeros again.

  • @BenSinclair04
    @BenSinclair04 7 місяців тому

    You declare your half-brother Aurane your heir if you don't have a son, that would be very cool, as you could play him as a pirate with not much of a moral compass. Also Margaery the best option with little risk, but I think Daenerys makes more sense.

  • @MrXavNiHuck
    @MrXavNiHuck 7 місяців тому

    In universe, Monford has no reason to believe Daenerys is alive so I don't see much reason for him to be holding out for a marriage to her, especially considering he has tied himself into the alliance with Jon and if she were to return, there would surely be conflict between the two. I'm echoing others' sentiments but Margaery makes the most sense for a match to Monford as he has proven himself a prestigious lord (probably the most influential Velaryon since the days of Corlys). The Tyrells also most likely have bad blood with King Renly since they fought on the side of the Bastard King, so it makes total sense for them to involve themselves into an anti-Renly plot to install Jon on the throne. Loving the series as always, keep up the great work!

  • @matthewawesome1212
    @matthewawesome1212 7 місяців тому

    Jon needs to take the Iron Throne. Idk if Daenerys pops up maybe wed her.

  • @Falconer1523
    @Falconer1523 7 місяців тому +2

    Can the war invalidate because Renly is incredibly broke and in debt? Is that a mechanic?
    Other than that I can only assume its a glitch, and therefore it is absolute legit to use "cheats" to fix it, no worries.

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah still not sure what happened there!

  • @ronnifich1720
    @ronnifich1720 7 місяців тому

    Go with a Rogare, as Lyseni they have some Valyrian blood and def the features.

  • @lazararsic249
    @lazararsic249 6 місяців тому

    Wrong video to say this, but few videos ago, when Robert was killed I don't think mechanically you can intrigue kill him when he's traveling in CK3, but you can try to kill him as a guest or a sabotage, and those I don't think characters need that strong motives but nevertheless Cercei was a guest. I think with cheats you can check who killed him.

  • @muhammedaqueeb2839
    @muhammedaqueeb2839 7 місяців тому

    I am a bit un familier with this mod but i just sawa couple of videos and wanted to ask if the targereyon return is fixed ad if so will u be changng charecters

  • @Chooch1080
    @Chooch1080 7 місяців тому +1

    I think Monford should conquer Massey's Hook. Along with the De Jure Islands of his Duchy. Then, he should Diverge his Culture to become: Bureaucratic Ethos, Diplomatic Court, Blood of the Dragon, Metalworkers, Sorcerous Metallurgy, Maritime Mercantilism, Beacon of Learning, and Warriors of Merit. This new culture could be called "Neo-Valeryian" or whatever you feel is best. But I think the best investment for Monfords Prestige, is to Diverge his Culture 🤙🏿🍻

    • @Chooch1080
      @Chooch1080 7 місяців тому +2

      Also, I feel after the conquest for Renly and devastating Tywin, Monford has clout. A marriage to either Margarey or the beautiful genius "Sand" should be his wife.

    • @Chooch1080
      @Chooch1080 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Trippels-c6f Monford is the architect of Renly's Ascension. And has already made moves to replace him with Jon Snow. Having already married his daughter to the rightful Targaryen King. Monford has positioned himself to become a Paramount even with the Starks and the Tyrells. Because of the success of his machinations and his acclaim at Tourney AND War. Yes, I feel the Tyrells would seek to ally through marriage. Especially if Monford pursues acquiring his De Jure territory and Massey's Hook. These are my opinions. You are welcome to yours 🤙🏿🍻

  • @deankirkby8047
    @deankirkby8047 6 місяців тому

    When Renly Heard the truth of the lost Targaryen prince, he stepped away from the throne. So, he could be the lord paramount as one of the last of his house.
    I am unhappy with your choice.
    I think you should take a mistress/courtesan

  • @ZimbolicalMayhem
    @ZimbolicalMayhem 7 місяців тому

    Are you using a mod to turn on debug_mode or running the game in debug_mode for the moment in order to imprison the King?

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  7 місяців тому

      I've set the game to start in debug and then just turn it off once I'm ready to record (when I remember!)

    • @ZimbolicalMayhem
      @ZimbolicalMayhem 7 місяців тому

      @@StrayKing I miss when you can hit ~ key and turn on debug_mode like in CK 2

  • @sampsjt
    @sampsjt 7 місяців тому

    I would say marry Margaery and secure the Reach, if Jon decides to push his claim the North will back him, the Riverlands might follow what the North does but with Catlin Stark dead the official alliance between the North and the Riverlands is done game mechanic wise. the war would probably be the North, the Reach, the River lands vs Stormlands. The Westerlands won't support Jon but they won't support Renly either, the Vale is a toss up, and Dorne is more likely to support a Targ than a Baratheon or any of the Lannister bastards that might still have a claim

  • @sampsjt
    @sampsjt 7 місяців тому

    Oh, one more thing, Is davos seaworth still alive in your game?

  • @ajwestgate3066
    @ajwestgate3066 7 місяців тому

    Does Danny exist in this timeline? If not Margaery

  • @adamgarry1664
    @adamgarry1664 7 місяців тому

    Marry Margaery I’m sure you gained a lot of prestige in Westeros from the war and Daenerys is refusing marriage so likely she will not accept your proposal

  • @viewer8734
    @viewer8734 7 місяців тому

    Definitely Margaery

  • @joannaszulc1496
    @joannaszulc1496 6 місяців тому

    I think Monford should marry a Lysene or Volantene noblewoman

  • @andrewcather8949
    @andrewcather8949 7 місяців тому

    Kaleesi is ideal but Marge is a solid alternative.

  • @BollekolleDK
    @BollekolleDK 6 місяців тому

    Would you PLEASE just check the Targaryan family tree to see if Daenaerys still lives... Come on - kind of important, dont you think?

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  6 місяців тому

      She does not. I didn’t bother because we never got an event from the mod about her being alive.

    • @BollekolleDK
      @BollekolleDK 6 місяців тому

      @@StrayKing I didnt see that you even checked up on her or put her on special interest. Perhaps you could have used her earlier or even married her off to your cousin or something.

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  6 місяців тому

      @@BollekolleDK Oh sorry, might be a bit of a miscommunication, the reason I didn't bother checking on her or anything is because all of the Targaryens are dead when at the start date we chose for the mod; Daenarys wasn't alive at any point during this play through.

    • @BollekolleDK
      @BollekolleDK 6 місяців тому

      @@StrayKing I see. But when Jon Snow was declared a Targaryan it said two members of the house. Who was the second then?

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  6 місяців тому

      Hmm… I’ll have to check! I know there is a cadet Targaryen branch that exists called the Brightflames that are descended from Aerion Brightflame. Maybe one of them? I’ll check next time I load it up.

  • @TheSeptemberSapphire
    @TheSeptemberSapphire 7 місяців тому +1

    Margery would be a good match. Great traits and a strong alliance. I would break the betrothal with the youngest daughter to keep the Valyrian blood purer. She could be betrothed to a Celtigar or a branch family member of House Velaryon.

    • @StrayKing
      @StrayKing  7 місяців тому +3

      Velaryon has a history of marrying with Essosi families, and technically the noble families of those cities are Valyrian descendants so I think it still fits. And Monford doesn’t have too much reason to break that very helpful alliance, that’d be asking for some kind of revenge for the insult.

  • @sampsjt
    @sampsjt 7 місяців тому

    So even with the canon traits option turned on the game get Jon wrong every time, I've only watched the show and not read the books but I think show Jon traits would be brave, honorable, just, stubborn. you could switch out just with honest or diligent, either of those fit as well.

    • @12354rony
      @12354rony 7 місяців тому

      The mod is based entirely on the books, not the show. (Thank god)

  • @wildertacklehdkek3309
    @wildertacklehdkek3309 7 місяців тому

    Maybe try to get the title for dragonstone, bc rn u obv couldn’t help that much

  • @Ardenator1
    @Ardenator1 7 місяців тому

    If Dany is alive marry her

  • @MootRental78
    @MootRental78 7 місяців тому

    just take margaery Golden flower alway royal to dragon

  • @Estel_98
    @Estel_98 7 місяців тому +1

    Renly just decide to give up after killing each other for 7 years. He is going to win why are you fcking give up ?

  • @Estel_98
    @Estel_98 7 місяців тому +1

    I didnt understand why this war lasted so long ?

    • @Falconer1523
      @Falconer1523 7 місяців тому +4

      Mostly becasue CK3s war mechanics are not very good, add the AGOT mod on top of it and the AI simply freaks out, having no clue what to do.