Good call-out, thanks for pointing that out TPB! 🙏 These are the standard Faith calculation multiplied by your MA * N. Here's a list of N for each ability below: --- 💚Moogle - 12 💚Faerie - 24 Shiva/Ifrit/Ramuh - 24 Titan - 28 Bahamut - 46 Odin - 40 Leviathan/Salamander - 38 Cyclops - 50 Zodiark - 96 --- These have rates of success also using the standard Faith calculation multiplied by (MA + N). Here's a list of N for each below: Sylph: 150 Carbuncle: 150 Lich: 160 --- And finally Golem is unique: the Caster Faith multiplied by MA +200, then divided that by 100 for your success chance.
I didn't realize I also uploaded a summoner video on the same day as you until someone made a comment. I'm stealing! I'm stealing! This was a great video and overall analysis of the Summoner! I want to say I agree with everything that came out of your mouth so far? lol. Anyway, I can't wait for a future collab. I think it will be solid and also can't wait for the next upload of stream. 👍
Super humbled that you enjoy the content, and I am jealous that you are experiencing the game for the first time! Welcome! 👋 I do have Monks planned later down the line, and seeing as how much I love the Job class I think I can bump him up a couple spots. They have amazing HP growth so leaving them as Monks while they level, and switching Jobs when you want some secondary skills to compliment, is always a decent route. Chakra, Aurabolt, Lifefont; all three of these skills I rate as top-tier investments for starting Abilities. Great thing about Monks is you spend less gil equipping them for battle. I prefer evasion accessories over power accessories, as I like to play more defensively. I hope this gets you started while you wait for the Monk's Job Focus to come up and I go into more detail on their class. Thanks again for stopping by, and be well! 🙏
Thanks, Professor, that means a lot! Glad I could help out, and you remind me how I would need to search guides and forums before UA-cam was a thing to find out how to play some Jobs correctly. Even still, I learned a bunch of new stuff while making these videos! Excited that you're getting into this classic, and looking forward to seeing you around on the channel as you progress in your journey! 👋
So glad you enjoy the content! 🙌 You can find the tracks used in the video in the description at the bottom, in case you are interested in using their work in your own content. Thanks for stopping by, and see you in the next video!
My build. Summoner Lisa Brave 97 Faith 75 Summon Magic Math Skill Speed Save Maintenance Move MP-Up Wizard Rod N/A Ribbon Rubber Costume Chantage With her in my group no one dies. She gets up from fallen, moves MP Up, to cast Golem over and over again. Math Skill as you know is OP. I play around in combat winning without using Math Skill nearly all the time. Every now and then a lucky shot might force me to calculate.
friend I'm late to see the video but... I love it 😄😄😄, your guides fascinate me, there will be a way to get a video of the oracle please, it's another favorite class thank you very much keep it up 😎😎😎
Never too late to stop by and comment, friend! Good to see you, and yes, Mystic (Oracle is original name with Yin Yang Magic I believe) is one of my favorite Jobs and I can't wait to get started on that one in particular. 👋
Swiftness is almost essential with Summoners if you want to reduce how much time you spend charging, lessening the chances you will be vulnerable to attack! 👍
I could never tell a difference. Though turn 1 golem may help. It's an underrated defensive tactic which yay 4:50 though I'd only learn 1 elemental for the rod (I think monsters have weaknesses like goblins ice, those annoying mind flare guys lightning, and undead fire) and moogle as this takes forever. Always felt it was an early game class for golem, moogle, and ramuh/shiva/ifrit with an elemental rod to boost. It's support is crap to carry over compared to black mage arcane strength or flare with arithmetician, or time mage graviga damage cap to bosses, quick (can't be used with math skill) for any heavy hitter, or teleport (which helps thieves and archers get the high ground).
Half MP/Arcane Strength/Swiftness are all solid choices for Summoner support. But, I can't believe I never thought to use Move MP-Up on a Summoner. With Equipment such as golden hairpin, luminous robe, Lordly Robe and the PSP exclusives of Sage Robe and Brass Coronet, up to what... +200 MP? Summons for days. :U Okay maybe hours because some summons cost a lot of MP. :P
Thanks for the write-up and checking out the video! 🙏 Manafont is decent for Summoners since every little bit of MP means you can cast for longer, I just wish the amount was larger. I prefer Move +2 in case I need to put some distance between me and possible threats, since I will be charging with this character a lot I am likely to be in a vulnerable position. For MP replenishment I usually rely on other characters using items, Chakra, or using abilities like Invigoration.
Summoner is my favorite job in the game. However, I always suffer what could be the best accessory for one. I usually go with Septieme for the Invisibility and the MA+1 and Auto Haste. I know haste it's not that convenient with a magic caster, but you just need to wait your first turn and the second turn comes very quickly, your summons CT is also immediate with Swiftness (or almost depending on the summon, except for the VERY slow ones) and as you start the battle invisible there is no problem with waiting the first turn. In your opinion, what could you advise to me as the best accessory for my Summoner? I lover her and I want the best for her 😂.
Considering that some characters unlock a job and gain massive job points in a job and some times even open up a new job simply by unlocking a job that is a prerequisite; is there a formula for 'power growing' a job progression?
Hey Ryan, thanks for the comment and inquiry, and I am not quite sure the formula to amount of JP you get right when you unlock a Job, but there is a feature called 'Spillover JP', where you gain JP equal to 25% of what other units gain in battle, based on their primary Job. So let's say you wanted to gain a bunch of Black Mage JP as a Knight, without switching to a BM; you can run a single Knight and four BM's, and the Knight will gain 25% BM JP every time another BM on your time gains JP. This is one of the topics I would like to discuss in an upcoming video, so great question to ask, and I hope I answered it for you! 🙌
My favourite magic class, it´s a shame it is not actually that good compared to some physical classes. The fact that is very fragile when it comes to HP while also needing high faith which makes them weak to magical attacks and requiring long charge times means there is a good chance your summoner will die before finishing their cast.
It is really is a labor of love to raise a Summoner, because their spells just look so great and have amazing potential. I prefer Shirahidori to do the guarding of my Summoner, but even that can't guarantee safety!
@@jeremymason8081 It also depends on who you are fighting against. If your enemies don't have ranged skills then it's relatively easy to keep your summoner safe. Also certain reactions abilities and equipment helps a lot.
My favorite character in the game is my generic Summoner Nina And I don't have problems keeping her alive, and I don't min max or anything of the sort.
Played this game all the time when it came out and when its remaster on the PSP came out. Had no idea the Summoner AOE damage spells didn't effect team members this entire time and because of that I avoided this job.
Thanks for stopping by and checking out the video Calypso! I hope you do give Summoners a try, they are a very satisfying Job to use to lay waste to large swathes of enemy troops. 🙌
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in your other videos you listed the power of the abilities, do you happen to know the relative powers of the summons?
Good call-out, thanks for pointing that out TPB! 🙏
These are the standard Faith calculation multiplied by your MA * N. Here's a list of N for each ability below:
---
💚Moogle - 12
💚Faerie - 24
Shiva/Ifrit/Ramuh - 24
Titan - 28
Bahamut - 46
Odin - 40
Leviathan/Salamander - 38
Cyclops - 50
Zodiark - 96
---
These have rates of success also using the standard Faith calculation multiplied by (MA + N). Here's a list of N for each below:
Sylph: 150
Carbuncle: 150
Lich: 160
---
And finally Golem is unique: the Caster Faith multiplied by MA +200, then divided that by 100 for your success chance.
@@TacticsLive awesome, thanks very much :D
I didn't realize I also uploaded a summoner video on the same day as you until someone made a comment. I'm stealing! I'm stealing! This was a great video and overall analysis of the Summoner! I want to say I agree with everything that came out of your mouth so far? lol. Anyway, I can't wait for a future collab. I think it will be solid and also can't wait for the next upload of stream. 👍
@J7Jase I saw that hahaha! I promise, everyone, we are independent from each other! Yes, absolutely on the collab, let's get these viewers pumped!!
I just started FF tactics and i really appreciate your videos. Hope you can cover Monks soon.
Super humbled that you enjoy the content, and I am jealous that you are experiencing the game for the first time! Welcome! 👋
I do have Monks planned later down the line, and seeing as how much I love the Job class I think I can bump him up a couple spots. They have amazing HP growth so leaving them as Monks while they level, and switching Jobs when you want some secondary skills to compliment, is always a decent route.
Chakra, Aurabolt, Lifefont; all three of these skills I rate as top-tier investments for starting Abilities. Great thing about Monks is you spend less gil equipping them for battle. I prefer evasion accessories over power accessories, as I like to play more defensively.
I hope this gets you started while you wait for the Monk's Job Focus to come up and I go into more detail on their class. Thanks again for stopping by, and be well! 🙏
The vids don't have a lot of views, but I swear to god, they're so good. Just starting this game and these have been so helpful.
Thanks, Professor, that means a lot! Glad I could help out, and you remind me how I would need to search guides and forums before UA-cam was a thing to find out how to play some Jobs correctly. Even still, I learned a bunch of new stuff while making these videos! Excited that you're getting into this classic, and looking forward to seeing you around on the channel as you progress in your journey! 👋
Keep goin, man! Thank you for your explanations! Cool background track, by the way)
So glad you enjoy the content! 🙌 You can find the tracks used in the video in the description at the bottom, in case you are interested in using their work in your own content. Thanks for stopping by, and see you in the next video!
@@TacticsLive Thanks, I'll check them out
great video as always, the summon is one of my favorite job
Thanks so much for checking out the content, always a pleasure to see you! 👋
Thanks for this!
My build.
Summoner Lisa
Brave 97 Faith 75
Summon Magic
Math Skill
Speed Save
Maintenance
Move MP-Up
Wizard Rod
N/A
Ribbon
Rubber Costume
Chantage
With her in my group no one dies. She gets up from fallen, moves MP Up, to cast Golem over and over again. Math Skill as you know is OP. I play around in combat winning without using Math Skill nearly all the time. Every now and then a lucky shot might force me to calculate.
"Don't force me to Calculate!!" 😂 Great build, thanks for sharing!
Great videos absolutely great. Thank you.
Thank you so much for watching Luke, I am happy you enjoyed the content! 🙌
friend I'm late to see the video but... I love it 😄😄😄, your guides fascinate me, there will be a way to get a video of the oracle please, it's another favorite class thank you very much keep it up 😎😎😎
Never too late to stop by and comment, friend! Good to see you, and yes, Mystic (Oracle is original name with Yin Yang Magic I believe) is one of my favorite Jobs and I can't wait to get started on that one in particular. 👋
@@TacticsLive oracle is the name oficial for psx and mystic psp 😃😃
Martha XIII.📚
Master's Tome(s).📚
Iiplen-Mjodid-ael.⚜️
what, after 20 years my number 1 favorite game actually has a tournament? woww
my favorite support ability is the time mage swiftness, and it lets you just not take foreeever with the stronger summon spells.
Swiftness is almost essential with Summoners if you want to reduce how much time you spend charging, lessening the chances you will be vulnerable to attack! 👍
I could never tell a difference. Though turn 1 golem may help. It's an underrated defensive tactic which yay 4:50 though I'd only learn 1 elemental for the rod (I think monsters have weaknesses like goblins ice, those annoying mind flare guys lightning, and undead fire) and moogle as this takes forever.
Always felt it was an early game class for golem, moogle, and ramuh/shiva/ifrit with an elemental rod to boost. It's support is crap to carry over compared to black mage arcane strength or flare with arithmetician, or time mage graviga damage cap to bosses, quick (can't be used with math skill) for any heavy hitter, or teleport (which helps thieves and archers get the high ground).
Half MP/Arcane Strength/Swiftness are all solid choices for Summoner support. But, I can't believe I never thought to use Move MP-Up on a Summoner. With Equipment such as golden hairpin, luminous robe, Lordly Robe and the PSP exclusives of Sage Robe and Brass Coronet, up to what... +200 MP? Summons for days. :U Okay maybe hours because some summons cost a lot of MP. :P
Thanks for the write-up and checking out the video! 🙏
Manafont is decent for Summoners since every little bit of MP means you can cast for longer, I just wish the amount was larger. I prefer Move +2 in case I need to put some distance between me and possible threats, since I will be charging with this character a lot I am likely to be in a vulnerable position.
For MP replenishment I usually rely on other characters using items, Chakra, or using abilities like Invigoration.
Summoner is my favorite job in the game.
However, I always suffer what could be the best accessory for one.
I usually go with Septieme for the Invisibility and the MA+1 and Auto Haste.
I know haste it's not that convenient with a magic caster, but you just need to wait your first turn and the second turn comes very quickly, your summons CT is also immediate with Swiftness (or almost depending on the summon, except for the VERY slow ones) and as you start the battle invisible there is no problem with waiting the first turn.
In your opinion, what could you advise to me as the best accessory for my Summoner? I lover her and I want the best for her 😂.
Considering that some characters unlock a job and gain massive job points in a job and some times even open up a new job simply by unlocking a job that is a prerequisite; is there a formula for 'power growing' a job progression?
How does the previous job formula add to the 'job gained' formula?
I never have understood that.
Hey Ryan, thanks for the comment and inquiry, and I am not quite sure the formula to amount of JP you get right when you unlock a Job, but there is a feature called 'Spillover JP', where you gain JP equal to 25% of what other units gain in battle, based on their primary Job.
So let's say you wanted to gain a bunch of Black Mage JP as a Knight, without switching to a BM; you can run a single Knight and four BM's, and the Knight will gain 25% BM JP every time another BM on your time gains JP.
This is one of the topics I would like to discuss in an upcoming video, so great question to ask, and I hope I answered it for you! 🙌
Martha XIII.📚
Master's Tome(s).📚🇲🇾🔥🇨🇳🔥🇲🇾📚⚜️
Iiplen-Mjodid-ael.⚜️
My favourite magic class, it´s a shame it is not actually that good compared to some physical classes. The fact that is very fragile when it comes to HP while also needing high faith which makes them weak to magical attacks and requiring long charge times means there is a good chance your summoner will die before finishing their cast.
It is really is a labor of love to raise a Summoner, because their spells just look so great and have amazing potential. I prefer Shirahidori to do the guarding of my Summoner, but even that can't guarantee safety!
I don’t really agree with “good chance to die” unless you don’t strategize.
@@jeremymason8081 It also depends on who you are fighting against. If your enemies don't have ranged skills then it's relatively easy to keep your summoner safe. Also certain reactions abilities and equipment helps a lot.
@@joaquinkhourysilvestre2530 right, for sure, tanking summoner would be 💀
My favorite character in the game is my generic Summoner Nina
And I don't have problems keeping her alive, and I don't min max or anything of the sort.
You should have VOD the livestream and put it on UA-cam. Just saying.
Here you go: ua-cam.com/play/PLGBHJMOBJkvqff49fxBl07opg5Qm3XVin.html 👍
Played this game all the time when it came out and when its remaster on the PSP came out. Had no idea the Summoner AOE damage spells didn't effect team members this entire time and because of that I avoided this job.
Thanks for stopping by and checking out the video Calypso! I hope you do give Summoners a try, they are a very satisfying Job to use to lay waste to large swathes of enemy troops. 🙌
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