You want a trick to suck the life force of your teammates? Ogryn with max hp curios+60% hound resistance Be last one alive and have near full hp get eaten by a dog Now either A) everyone waits for like 2-4minutes (forever) for your ogryn to die or B) they leave the mission
Funny enough i used to have 9 Stamina on my trinkets. I started adding an extra wound later because playing in sudden death mode after getting downed once is not fun. Stacking gunner resistance is my go to on curios, everything else is optional... so i'm running stamina/toughness regen (for the overall boost) and... ordo dockets because i'm constantly broke.
Hey your vids have really made me rethink build crafting even after 1k hours, i love ur upfront delivery too man. You can watch telopots dominate, or listen to tier list zombies tell u whats best, but there needs to be someone like you that shows people what works and why
hej Tanner just want to say alle the contens you have put op have bin supper helpfull TY!! alot of the things you have testet her like suppretion and so muce more si supper helpfull i vill defenetly change my playstill to this so ty Tanner
I find his comments great except for me it’s usually the random pickup games where I need wounds. You know those moments where you are dead and scratching your head wondering why your “team” can’t stay together. Those “teams” that walk up to the demonhost and then ignore it. All while going off in opposite directions to agro more.
@TannerLindberg modern day lingo, which only barely makes sense, used as a pun on stamina "bricks" like you call it. Also in reference to how some fighters don't "relieve themselves" for days before a fight in order to have more adrenaline in their viens
Hey Tanner, can you clarify block efficiency and ragers? Like it feels like they still go through my blocking and armour digging into my health, lemme know what I’m missing here. Great vid! 😊
Block Efficency isn't as good as it was in Vermintide 2, used to be able to get 60% Block Cost which translates to 2.5x block Stamina, now you get with 3 curios 36% which translates to 1.5625x Block Stamina
On Curios then should I replace 5% Health with 4% Ability Regen on all? If I keep up Toughness I don't really have to worry about +15% Health right? VS getting the Yellow Toughness that stops one shot I'm assuming.
Health is still very useful, but it kind of depends on your build. Tanner didn’t mention this in the video, but toughness fully protects against ranged damage, but only proportionally against melee. That percent is based on your missing toughness. So an example: You have 75/100 toughness and 100/100 health. You take a 60 damage melee hit. 1/4 of your toughness is missing, so 1/4 of 60 (15) is taken to your health. What I’m not sure on is whether you take the full 60 to toughness or just the 45. If however it was a 60 point ranged attack, you’d be at 15/100 toughness and still full hp. So +heath is more useful for melee builds that take melee damage. Ranged builds may be better off with more toughness (not from curios, but talent points).
@@jacobvriesema6633 you also don't take any damage from melee when you're toughness is at *or above* 100. That's why I find it a bit confusing that toughness stacking is considered so terrible, but I am obviously the terrible player he was referencing(one of many).
Ive been just running my curios from day 1 as Vet. 2 adding toughness, and 1 with wound. Been considering swapping for more stamina .....i should just go for it. As far as stamina regen, i thought the speed was correlated with your weapon you have out currently.
@1:56 you state “stamina gives you more sprint speed…” don’t you mean, you can sprint longer with more stamina? Or are you suggesting that a Zealot with 10 stamina actually runs faster than one with 6? The only thing I’m aware of that affects your speed is the weapon. I’m pretty sure sprint efficiency just means you burn less stamina per second while sprinting.
no this is just mis interpreting what im saying. you spritn faster with stamina than with out. so it gives you more sprint speed by virtue of keeping your stamina high. i can see why thats confusing for people
@@TannerLindberg would it make sense to refer to that as “running” as opposed to “sprinting” ? I’m not entirely sure what the game files refer to sprinting with no stamina, or if certain perks that say sprinting still have effect when you’re out of stamina…. You really have 3 speeds: walking, running, and sprinting.
@@alanwilson3572 Hes just saying you sprint slower when you have 0% stamina so with 3 more from a curio you can sprint at max speed for that much longer.
The gunner damage resist is looking pretty good right now. Most of the time when i die and it's not from a stupid choice it's from gunners. It's just applying to the two gunner units right?
Love these dont let dipshits get a inch outta yea man. Enjoy a hardcore players mindset because when the chips are down useful information is a game changer. In those 5-8 seconds of change in Ai directors behaviour can go a long way. Running with stims, curios min/maxing all useful asf.
Bro your psyker gun build using scriers gaze and all that ult reduction is fkin insane, now it is Me thats hogging all the ammon not the veteran, or maybe i suck at ammo management
I'm not sure I'm sold on block efficiency on psyker. Yeah, it has excellent synergy with the funny peril block node, but it feels like overkill. Maybe I'm just a dodge addict but I don't see the value of being able to block ten ragers when there's never a situation where you wouldn't rather just dodge away from them so that they don't surround you. Greedy revives, maybe? But even then, i dont run block efficiency and i can still get people up in the middle of mixed hordes, and if they're surrounded by crushers that could overhead me, it probably wouldnt be helpful to revive somebody into that situation unless they're a shout vet or book boy. My usual psyker curio is stam regen, ability cooldown, and revive speed. I like revive speed over block efficiency because while block efficiency has kinda the same effect of being able to take riskier revives, revive speed helps when under ranged fire and is more helpful when there are active specials. Block efficiency is always active while revive speed only helps when you make mistakes, but in auric pubs that's a guarantee. I get use out of it every mission.
I'm a dodge addict too, but I still get tagged a bunch in large enough swarms. Blocking is a much better guarantee, and both together should ideally mean you're mostly invulnerable. I take frequent damage cause I don't block a lot, I just favor dodge cause most of the time it works every time, and I'm lazy.
YOu don't block with psyker if you have Deimos. you use all that stamina to push em over. I mean really you should be shooting them but being able to block an dthen push over ragers repeatedly quite fast is great if you run out of ammo (whcih happens to me on my scriers columbnuss build a lot!)
@@kudosbudoYeah I was so confused watching this video and he was harking so much on stamina. I almost never run out of stamina with psyker because i always push everyone down rather than just face tanking the stamina. Its just insanely more stamina efficient.
Wounds: the only character I still feel safer with one wound curio is psyker because of their unfortunate tendency to blow themselves up. One +3 stamina helps greatly.
Toughness vs Health my reasoning is: If your build gives you tools to easily keep your toughness maxed after taking damage, get health. If your build does not let you easily top off your toughness after taking a hit, then take toughness. If you're able to keep toughness at or very near to 100%, then getting more of it doesn't really help. But having a bigger health pool will be very helpful to last through all the chip damage you take.
@@blueboy1958 plus if you take the middle keystone, your Toughness effectively is even higher, have enough damage reduction and it will exceed max HP build
Another thing about wounds is that it’s like you say building to fail Being able to go down more is nice but the alternative is just don’t go down Whenever I see a zealot with like 8 wounds I always get an aneurism
I dont see it as building to fail, I see it as a safety precaution. No matter how good you are at the game, you are going to go down eventually, and it's REALLY nice not to get punished by it. Im running an all wound curio loadout currently for trying to learn an assail-scrier build, but once I get better at managing peril, I'll replace 2 of them most likely with toughness curios because of the insane amount of regen I get from building/quelling peril during scriers gaze. 3 wound curio has saved my ass a LOT with learning this build, but it is very strong and I can regularly carry my team once I focus hard enough.
Shit, I've been a bad player this whole time and still mainline 5s? Im retooling my shit when I get on next. It's time to ascend. (this is not a joke im running wounds and 5% H/T)
I don’t understand why people get triggered over this. If you feel like his takes were Elitist… What did you expect from a video from a guy talking from the top about the meta? It’s like you’re joining expecting your chosen build to be in the meta. Like, it’s the meta. (People also seem to forget that just because something is the meta, doesn’t mean that something obsolete/generally-worse is going to make you loose, it’s just generally more effective to run with a more consistent option like more stamina to avoid damage rather than forgoing it in exchange for max hp and wounds)
From his voice to his attitude to his actual competence on the subject, this man is literally the Ben Shapiro of Darktide. He triggers casuals like Ben triggers college students lol I love it
I think saying this video discusses "Meta" is somewhat misleading. Why? Because in order to follow a meta, you need to have grasped the game on a level that allows you to play Damnation, not talking Auric here. Many people overestimate themselves by feeling justified to run these types of builds even though they cannot even use all that stamina and toughness the curios give them. I for myself who somewhat plays Auric missions, am feeling decent with doing just half of what you say regarding Curios, and having at least 1 Wound so I am not severly punished when I make a mistake under pressure. Something Meta player's do. I just think, that in order to utilise the resources you are advising on in this video, it should be addressing High-Skill players, as "Meta" adresses the general playerbase.
God I wish Curious in this game was like Vermintide where they're the same across all classes. Having them be class specific is not helping the grind
You want a trick to suck the life force of your teammates?
Ogryn with max hp curios+60% hound resistance
Be last one alive and have near full hp
get eaten by a dog
Now either A) everyone waits for like 2-4minutes (forever) for your ogryn to die or B) they leave the mission
I'd love a plasteel booster on my curio. Thanks for this guide. I'd figured most of this stuff out, just nice to see it confirmed.
+10% ordo docket is meta for playing shopclick
"Wounds are bad"
_That Vet Player who run 2 Wound trinkets disliked that_
I love these guides they’re very to the point
Your channel is exactly what I needed
Appreciate all these in depth guides. As an Xbox player these are super helpful thank you
This was crazy informative for me. Thanks!
Funny enough i used to have 9 Stamina on my trinkets. I started adding an extra wound later because playing in sudden death mode after getting downed once is not fun.
Stacking gunner resistance is my go to on curios, everything else is optional... so i'm running stamina/toughness regen (for the overall boost) and... ordo dockets because i'm constantly broke.
ordo dockets is the real meta pick lmao
i will say dont go all 3 gunner res 2 at max the third one is only adding like7% due to dimishing returns.
Hey your vids have really made me rethink build crafting even after 1k hours, i love ur upfront delivery too man. You can watch telopots dominate, or listen to tier list zombies tell u whats best, but there needs to be someone like you that shows people what works and why
hej Tanner just want to say alle the contens you have put op have bin supper helpfull TY!! alot of the things you have testet her like suppretion and so muce more si supper helpfull i vill defenetly change my playstill to this so ty Tanner
i love these breakdowns but maybe more of your own input, what should ever class be running? be more specific possibly?
I find his comments great except for me it’s usually the random pickup games where I need wounds. You know those moments where you are dead and scratching your head wondering why your “team” can’t stay together. Those “teams” that walk up to the demonhost and then ignore it. All while going off in opposite directions to agro more.
NOTED: Being bricked up constantly is meta in darktide.
What?
@TannerLindberg modern day lingo, which only barely makes sense, used as a pun on stamina "bricks" like you call it. Also in reference to how some fighters don't "relieve themselves" for days before a fight in order to have more adrenaline in their viens
+9 stamina with +36% stamina regen, loot goblin > team
Hey Tanner, can you clarify block efficiency and ragers? Like it feels like they still go through my blocking and armour digging into my health, lemme know what I’m missing here. Great vid! 😊
Block Efficency isn't as good as it was in Vermintide 2, used to be able to get 60% Block Cost which translates to 2.5x block Stamina, now you get with 3 curios 36% which translates to 1.5625x Block Stamina
@@prich0382 I’m really just asking if I add block efficiency if rangers won’t be able to bypass my block and toughness and damage my health
if you add enough of it with some base stamina yeah they shouldnt. unless you eat like 3 combos at the same time.
@@TannerLindberg great! That’s helpful thx. Can it also potentially eat a crusher overhead I think I’ve heard you mention before?
As far as overheads go. Id have to test but i would say no right now
Some useful information: If you have a 3+ stam curio with rating LESS than 78 it gives you only 2+ stam.
Time to reroll all my curious 😂😂😂
Ordo Dockets > all
On Curios then should I replace 5% Health with 4% Ability Regen on all? If I keep up Toughness I don't really have to worry about +15% Health right? VS getting the Yellow Toughness that stops one shot I'm assuming.
Health is still very useful, but it kind of depends on your build. Tanner didn’t mention this in the video, but toughness fully protects against ranged damage, but only proportionally against melee. That percent is based on your missing toughness. So an example:
You have 75/100 toughness and 100/100 health. You take a 60 damage melee hit. 1/4 of your toughness is missing, so 1/4 of 60 (15) is taken to your health. What I’m not sure on is whether you take the full 60 to toughness or just the 45.
If however it was a 60 point ranged attack, you’d be at 15/100 toughness and still full hp.
So +heath is more useful for melee builds that take melee damage. Ranged builds may be better off with more toughness (not from curios, but talent points).
@@jacobvriesema6633 you also don't take any damage from melee when you're toughness is at *or above* 100. That's why I find it a bit confusing that toughness stacking is considered so terrible, but I am obviously the terrible player he was referencing(one of many).
@Shadowburn2 at or above 100 percent, not 100 total.
Ive been just running my curios from day 1 as Vet. 2 adding toughness, and 1 with wound. Been considering swapping for more stamina .....i should just go for it. As far as stamina regen, i thought the speed was correlated with your weapon you have out currently.
you're so cute when you're passionate about infodumping statistics
Well uhh thanks haha :p
Obviously +10% dubloons on all your curios is mandatory.
@1:56 you state “stamina gives you more sprint speed…” don’t you mean, you can sprint longer with more stamina? Or are you suggesting that a Zealot with 10 stamina actually runs faster than one with 6? The only thing I’m aware of that affects your speed is the weapon. I’m pretty sure sprint efficiency just means you burn less stamina per second while sprinting.
no this is just mis interpreting what im saying. you spritn faster with stamina than with out. so it gives you more sprint speed by virtue of keeping your stamina high. i can see why thats confusing for people
@@TannerLindberg would it make sense to refer to that as “running” as opposed to “sprinting” ? I’m not entirely sure what the game files refer to sprinting with no stamina, or if certain perks that say sprinting still have effect when you’re out of stamina…. You really have 3 speeds: walking, running, and sprinting.
Tanner is the Ben Shapiro of Darktide
8:00 to skip the "good" rolls
Stamina gives sprint speed?
you sprint faster with stamina more of it does not make you sprint faster.
@@TannerLindberginitiation of the sprint? I always take a stam curio
@@alanwilson3572 Hes just saying you sprint slower when you have 0% stamina so with 3 more from a curio you can sprint at max speed for that much longer.
Why not 5% toughness on vet?
Other rolls are just better.
@@TannerLindberg Why?
Do basic math. 5% of 200 which you wont get anyways unless you only stack it is 10. Vs gunner resistance. Which can precent hundreds of toughness dmg
@@TannerLindberg Thanks
The gunner damage resist is looking pretty good right now. Most of the time when i die and it's not from a stupid choice it's from gunners. It's just applying to the two gunner units right?
And reapers
Love these dont let dipshits get a inch outta yea man. Enjoy a hardcore players mindset because when the chips are down useful information is a game changer. In those 5-8 seconds of change in Ai directors behaviour can go a long way. Running with stims, curios min/maxing all useful asf.
My body is ready
Bro your psyker gun build using scriers gaze and all that ult reduction is fkin insane, now it is Me thats hogging all the ammon not the veteran, or maybe i suck at ammo management
I'm not sure I'm sold on block efficiency on psyker. Yeah, it has excellent synergy with the funny peril block node, but it feels like overkill. Maybe I'm just a dodge addict but I don't see the value of being able to block ten ragers when there's never a situation where you wouldn't rather just dodge away from them so that they don't surround you. Greedy revives, maybe? But even then, i dont run block efficiency and i can still get people up in the middle of mixed hordes, and if they're surrounded by crushers that could overhead me, it probably wouldnt be helpful to revive somebody into that situation unless they're a shout vet or book boy. My usual psyker curio is stam regen, ability cooldown, and revive speed. I like revive speed over block efficiency because while block efficiency has kinda the same effect of being able to take riskier revives, revive speed helps when under ranged fire and is more helpful when there are active specials. Block efficiency is always active while revive speed only helps when you make mistakes, but in auric pubs that's a guarantee. I get use out of it every mission.
I'm a dodge addict too, but I still get tagged a bunch in large enough swarms. Blocking is a much better guarantee, and both together should ideally mean you're mostly invulnerable.
I take frequent damage cause I don't block a lot, I just favor dodge cause most of the time it works every time, and I'm lazy.
YOu don't block with psyker if you have Deimos. you use all that stamina to push em over. I mean really you should be shooting them but being able to block an dthen push over ragers repeatedly quite fast is great if you run out of ammo (whcih happens to me on my scriers columbnuss build a lot!)
@@kudosbudoYeah I was so confused watching this video and he was harking so much on stamina. I almost never run out of stamina with psyker because i always push everyone down rather than just face tanking the stamina. Its just insanely more stamina efficient.
Wounds: the only character I still feel safer with one wound curio is psyker because of their unfortunate tendency to blow themselves up.
One +3 stamina helps greatly.
Genuine skill issue
Hell yea love +12% faster shouty/sneaky mode for vet love it
Muted?
Toughness vs Health my reasoning is: If your build gives you tools to easily keep your toughness maxed after taking damage, get health. If your build does not let you easily top off your toughness after taking a hit, then take toughness.
If you're able to keep toughness at or very near to 100%, then getting more of it doesn't really help. But having a bigger health pool will be very helpful to last through all the chip damage you take.
Ah but see on Ogryn, because his Toughness regen is percentage based, the more Toughness you have, the more you regen, so it's so much more valuable.
Given that most Toughness regen is % and based off of max Toughness
More Toughness = More Toughness gained
@@blueboy1958 plus if you take the middle keystone, your Toughness effectively is even higher, have enough damage reduction and it will exceed max HP build
@@blueboy1958 yes but if you have no trouble getting your toughness back to 100% after a hit, then you gain nothing by regaining more of it.
Asking fir a friend is 1 wound ok cause they have skill issie wnd shit pc, i am the friend
Eh i would never do it.
@@TannerLindberg true I'm going full toughness now and my body goes hard literally cooming
ordo dockets because fatshark crafting
Another thing about wounds is that it’s like you say building to fail
Being able to go down more is nice but the alternative is just don’t go down
Whenever I see a zealot with like 8 wounds I always get an aneurism
They might have a martyr build,pretty sure that gets stronger based specifically on having lots of wounds
I dont see it as building to fail, I see it as a safety precaution. No matter how good you are at the game, you are going to go down eventually, and it's REALLY nice not to get punished by it.
Im running an all wound curio loadout currently for trying to learn an assail-scrier build, but once I get better at managing peril, I'll replace 2 of them most likely with toughness curios because of the insane amount of regen I get from building/quelling peril during scriers gaze. 3 wound curio has saved my ass a LOT with learning this build, but it is very strong and I can regularly carry my team once I focus hard enough.
I appreciate the info here but could do without being bitched at about the thing I'm literally trying to learn.
Shit, I've been a bad player this whole time and still mainline 5s? Im retooling my shit when I get on next. It's time to ascend.
(this is not a joke im running wounds and 5% H/T)
I don’t understand why people get triggered over this.
If you feel like his takes were Elitist… What did you expect from a video from a guy talking from the top about the meta?
It’s like you’re joining expecting your chosen build to be in the meta. Like, it’s the meta.
(People also seem to forget that just because something is the meta, doesn’t mean that something obsolete/generally-worse is going to make you loose, it’s just generally more effective to run with a more consistent option like more stamina to avoid damage rather than forgoing it in exchange for max hp and wounds)
From his voice to his attitude to his actual competence on the subject, this man is literally the Ben Shapiro of Darktide. He triggers casuals like Ben triggers college students lol I love it
that is the cringest fucking comparison i have ever heard.
@@TannerLindberg Listen man I don't make the rules
I can see it.
Statistically speaking, you're right.
Being compared to ben shapiro lmao
Tanner is just a twink and that's it
I think saying this video discusses "Meta" is somewhat misleading.
Why? Because in order to follow a meta, you need to have grasped the game on a level that allows you to play Damnation, not talking Auric here.
Many people overestimate themselves by feeling justified to run these types of builds even though they cannot even use all that stamina and toughness the curios give them.
I for myself who somewhat plays Auric missions, am feeling decent with doing just half of what you say regarding Curios, and having at least 1 Wound so I am not severly punished when I make a mistake under pressure. Something Meta player's do.
I just think, that in order to utilise the resources you are advising on in this video, it should be addressing High-Skill players, as "Meta" adresses the general playerbase.