Corrections: 2:16: The rocket motor does not cause the the combat unit to just turn 180 degrees. Instead it will cause the combat unit to start spinning in general as it scans the ground. Addendum: The mine is design to self-destruct in 1 to days after it's activated. This help the demining effort after a conflict is over. It's not clear if that means that the whole unit is destroyed or just the combat unit.
They have been spotted on the Russia/Ukraine front. It doesn't look like they can be used on a large scale. They have to be setup and then pointed in the potential direction of the enemy. Not too much info is available online but here is one ref: armamentresearch.com/russian-ptkm-1r-top-attack-anti-vehicle-mine-documented-in-ukraine-2022/
They've definitely been used in ukraine. To what extent, not sure. Just go ahead and assume that literally any weapon from world war 1 onwards has been used in ukraine lolll, at least once
This kind of defeats the point of mines. Cheap area denial to delay or funnel the enemy. If I'm going to spend enough money to by a whole field of mines on a single stationary anti-tank system why not just spend on a man portable anti-tank system that has two legs to move it around?
Normal mines are easier to detect than this one. You need several normal mines to fully block road. This system guards road 24/7 as long as battery lasts. Maybe couple of weeks and it's most likely more accurate than average soldier with cheap LAW. Your soldier might be sleeping/eating/toilet when tank comes. This system may possibly detect friendly units or it may be switched off remotely when own tanks drives road. Not sure if it has such capabilities, but switching off feature would not be difficult to implement. Normal mines makes no difference between friends or foes.
normal at mines aren_t getting triggered by personal either, just too expensive. That nobody just comes and pushes it over on it's sides they usually put anti personal mines around it in like 20m radius.
«Чудо оружие» Очень большим плюсом мин является то, что они дешёвые и их можно поставить в каком угодно количестве. Другим большим плюсом является то, что они неприхотливые и не имеют элементов хрупких и чувствительных элементов, а значит их можно поставить где угодно и какими угодно бойцами, будь у них подготовка или нет. Другой плюс мин в том что у них не может сесть аккумулятор, так как его там нет и они могут сработать хоть через десяток лет, а значит минные поля не надо постоянно обновлять и поддерживать в рабочем состоянии. Эта же «умная» мина всех этих достоинств лишена. Зато стоит как нормальный умный РПГ наверняка. Не забывайте: мины - оборонительное вооружение. Оборонительное вооружение не способствует перехвату инициативы у противника, это может обеспечить только наступательное вооружение. Значит именно наступательное вооружение и должно получать приоритет в спонсировании, а оборонительное - быть настолько дешёвым и простым, насколько это возможно.
These weapons are effective for psychological warfare. All it takes is 3-4 tanks to be destroyed by this and the enemy will be forced to modify his tactics, which will provide openings for generals to exploit and secure victory on the battlefield.
good observation, altho one can say that smart mines do have their applications, i just find that a top attack mine to be mildly redundant, i do think that a regular AT mine with a smart trigger system would be far better than a top attack mine, one exemple would be a shaped charge mine with enough penetration to pierce the hull belly and "smart" enough to detonate in center of mass of a tank, in particular if such mine existed and a T90M passed through it a direct hit to the ammunition could be scored, dumb mines are only capable of causing mobility kill to heavy armor and a smart mine like that could score a full kill.
1. Возможно, батареи может хватить на неделю.и больше. 2. Многие мины приходится самим снимать или уничтожать если необходимо перейти в наступление. Минное поле на 20 лет - не представляю кому оно нужно. Если нужно то там другие бОльшие проблемы. 3. Эта мина защищает площадь на которую возможно потребовалось бы 20 обычных мин.может быть она и стоит в 20 раз дороже, но это стоимость изготовления. Если учесть стоимиось военной логистики доставить этот объем и вес к линии соприкосновения (либо за неё!) - охрана и скрытность - то эта стоимость в разы превосходит цену самих изделий. Соответственно одна такая мина экономит деньги. Не говоря о ситуациях когда минёрам нужно проникнуть на территорию.противника и заминировать пять мест. Пять таких мин они смогут утащить и успеют расставить, а вот 100 обычных нет.
They have mines that last about a week then it detonates itself to prevent unforeseen accidents not sure if this is the same though 🤔. Looks complex probably does.
At least one of the good thing is that infantry can disable these things on foot, however if this thing is in a minefields in conjunction with other mines it may become troublesome if you cannot detect and shoot it even if it is quite tall.
The era of mine which by design usually is a cheap and low tech type of defensive weapon already at the end.. The era of sophisticated and AI laden mine is dawning..
feels like they could make this less complex if it didn't explode mid air and just used something like fins or just calculated a ballistic trajectory, but I'm no expert and the people who made this probably know what they're doing and I'm just a dumbass on the internet, still have to wonder why it's so complex
This is simpler than fins or some kind of guidance. Something that this video got slightly wrong was that the two rocket motors don't just turn the combat unit around, they make it spin. So the combat unit flies through the air spinning, scanning a large area of the ground below it. As soon as it detects that its pointing at the target, it detonates. This means that you only have to throw the combat unit roughly in the direction of the target, but no precision guidance or exact position is needed.
If you look up the CBU-97 / BLU-108, it works on a similar principle. The slight angle of the projectile combined with spinning allows it to scan a surprisingly wide area, sort of like how scribbling circles on a paper covers more area than drawing a straight line. Rather than detecting the target first and guiding itself into it, it just points the warhead at many possible target locations while it's still in the air and detonates if the sensor passes over a target at any point during its scan
this mine takes the "active protection system" type of engagement, it actively reacts with sequences of pyrotecniques triggered by very high refresh micro processors and sensor data, altho fins are honestly a good idea but still there are plenty of engineering challenges to make it reliable, a mine that launches a RPG glider thing is very interesting but would likely still be very expensive, the thing would basicly have the guidance system of a javelin and those are ridiculously expensive.
or just make a small automatic mortar. just rig it so that if falls a certain distance and place a trigger slightly before it. if you wanna be fancy, you can place 2 trigger and a small computer to see how fast the target is moving, to see if the mortar will be able to hit it. would be slightly more expensive , but much MUCH cheaper then whatever this is. see, this is why capitalism isn't good in war. you got money, but no brain and no bravery. but you do have fear, so you make the most advanced thing you can and hope it protects you.
The principles of this design aren't anything new. The US fields the CBU-97 Sensor Fuzed weapon, a cluster bomb with a very similar design, so it's a proven concept.
Corrections:
2:16: The rocket motor does not cause the the combat unit to just turn 180 degrees. Instead it will cause the combat unit to start spinning in general as it scans the ground.
Addendum:
The mine is design to self-destruct in 1 to days after it's activated. This help the demining effort after a conflict is over. It's not clear if that means that the whole unit is destroyed or just the combat unit.
Those are more complex than i imagine, i did not know that they have built in radar too
Saw a video of one taking out a ukrainian T-72 in the first year of the war, its was honestly kinda scary how far, quick and accurate it was
Because they spent a lot of time developing it they weren't at war with anyone they had time and money.
Fantastic video! Would love to see more military related videos in the future
Been a while, great upload
Yeah thanks. I'm hoping the next vid will come out a lot faster.
So blast sound mapped to a vehicle type (MBT) from a long distance back, the mine will be defeated.
Are these currently being used anywhere? Or have they been? How feasible is it to use it on a large scale?
They have been spotted on the Russia/Ukraine front.
It doesn't look like they can be used on a large scale. They have to be setup and then pointed in the potential direction of the enemy. Not too much info is available online but here is one ref:
armamentresearch.com/russian-ptkm-1r-top-attack-anti-vehicle-mine-documented-in-ukraine-2022/
They've definitely been used in ukraine. To what extent, not sure. Just go ahead and assume that literally any weapon from world war 1 onwards has been used in ukraine lolll, at least once
@@operationalfacts5602 Interesting read, thanks for the additional material.
This kind of defeats the point of mines. Cheap area denial to delay or funnel the enemy. If I'm going to spend enough money to by a whole field of mines on a single stationary anti-tank system why not just spend on a man portable anti-tank system that has two legs to move it around?
Normal mines are easier to detect than this one. You need several normal mines to fully block road. This system guards road 24/7 as long as battery lasts. Maybe couple of weeks and it's most likely more accurate than average soldier with cheap LAW. Your soldier might be sleeping/eating/toilet when tank comes. This system may possibly detect friendly units or it may be switched off remotely when own tanks drives road. Not sure if it has such capabilities, but switching off feature would not be difficult to implement. Normal mines makes no difference between friends or foes.
@@kutkitket3570 sounds really ineffective for IFF if such as in ukraine both sides use the same vehicles
@@wyattlewis7137 are you sure electronic IFF works by looking at the silhouette of the vehicle? : )
It sounds like these have no IFF capability, apart from (possibly) not firing at soft targets
normal at mines aren_t getting triggered by personal either, just too expensive. That nobody just comes and pushes it over on it's sides they usually put anti personal mines around it in like 20m radius.
The warhead employs a circular scanning pattern along its trajectory, assisted by its precession.
«Чудо оружие»
Очень большим плюсом мин является то, что они дешёвые и их можно поставить в каком угодно количестве.
Другим большим плюсом является то, что они неприхотливые и не имеют элементов хрупких и чувствительных элементов, а значит их можно поставить где угодно и какими угодно бойцами, будь у них подготовка или нет.
Другой плюс мин в том что у них не может сесть аккумулятор, так как его там нет и они могут сработать хоть через десяток лет, а значит минные поля не надо постоянно обновлять и поддерживать в рабочем состоянии.
Эта же «умная» мина всех этих достоинств лишена. Зато стоит как нормальный умный РПГ наверняка.
Не забывайте: мины - оборонительное вооружение. Оборонительное вооружение не способствует перехвату инициативы у противника, это может обеспечить только наступательное вооружение. Значит именно наступательное вооружение и должно получать приоритет в спонсировании, а оборонительное - быть настолько дешёвым и простым, насколько это возможно.
These weapons are effective for psychological warfare. All it takes is 3-4 tanks to be destroyed by this and the enemy will be forced to modify his tactics, which will provide openings for generals to exploit and secure victory on the battlefield.
good observation, altho one can say that smart mines do have their applications, i just find that a top attack mine to be mildly redundant, i do think that a regular AT mine with a smart trigger system would be far better than a top attack mine, one exemple would be a shaped charge mine with enough penetration to pierce the hull belly and "smart" enough to detonate in center of mass of a tank, in particular if such mine existed and a T90M passed through it a direct hit to the ammunition could be scored, dumb mines are only capable of causing mobility kill to heavy armor and a smart mine like that could score a full kill.
I expect this model does contain some kind of battery for those sensors.
1. Возможно, батареи может хватить на неделю.и больше.
2. Многие мины приходится самим снимать или уничтожать если необходимо перейти в наступление. Минное поле на 20 лет - не представляю кому оно нужно. Если нужно то там другие бОльшие проблемы.
3. Эта мина защищает площадь на которую возможно потребовалось бы 20 обычных мин.может быть она и стоит в 20 раз дороже, но это стоимость изготовления. Если учесть стоимиось военной логистики доставить этот объем и вес к линии соприкосновения (либо за неё!) - охрана и скрытность - то эта стоимость в разы превосходит цену самих изделий. Соответственно одна такая мина экономит деньги. Не говоря о ситуациях когда минёрам нужно проникнуть на территорию.противника и заминировать пять мест. Пять таких мин они смогут утащить и успеют расставить, а вот 100 обычных нет.
@@AlexKarasevдальность обнаружения 100метров всего. несерьёзно
Battery lifespan? Standby idle time? Effective countermeasures?
You can shoot it with a machine gun and you’ll disable or detonate it, provided you saw it in the first place.
They have mines that last about a week then it detonates itself to prevent unforeseen accidents not sure if this is the same though 🤔. Looks complex probably does.
At least one of the good thing is that infantry can disable these things on foot, however if this thing is in a minefields in conjunction with other mines it may become troublesome if you cannot detect and shoot it even if it is quite tall.
Great Video 😊👍🏼
The mechanism is Complicated. 😅
And, of course, these are *super* cheap, right? Like, 30 bucks each? ... No? Couple hundred?
At least 3…. Million
These are some crazy Russian shovels, oh buoy!
clever engineering by somebody
It's not turned 180 deg. It's get spinning for scanning...
Thanks for the corrections. I've added the correction to the Pinned comment.
where can I buy one of these?
Sam's
Black market
I saw them being sold at Walmart. Only 7$ each!
Call Russia.
Ukraine or Russian blackmarket
If HEAT is shaped charge use Munroe effect
EFP use Misnay-Schardin effect
The era of mine which by design usually is a cheap and low tech type of defensive weapon already at the end..
The era of sophisticated and AI laden mine is dawning..
Drones. The use of drones is a must these days. Jet fighter already start using it. Tanks should use it as standard.
feels like they could make this less complex if it didn't explode mid air and just used something like fins or just calculated a ballistic trajectory, but I'm no expert and the people who made this probably know what they're doing and I'm just a dumbass on the internet, still have to wonder why it's so complex
This is simpler than fins or some kind of guidance. Something that this video got slightly wrong was that the two rocket motors don't just turn the combat unit around, they make it spin. So the combat unit flies through the air spinning, scanning a large area of the ground below it. As soon as it detects that its pointing at the target, it detonates.
This means that you only have to throw the combat unit roughly in the direction of the target, but no precision guidance or exact position is needed.
@@danielfearn6076 Точно так же работает снаряд 155мм bonus.
If you look up the CBU-97 / BLU-108, it works on a similar principle. The slight angle of the projectile combined with spinning allows it to scan a surprisingly wide area, sort of like how scribbling circles on a paper covers more area than drawing a straight line. Rather than detecting the target first and guiding itself into it, it just points the warhead at many possible target locations while it's still in the air and detonates if the sensor passes over a target at any point during its scan
this mine takes the "active protection system" type of engagement, it actively reacts with sequences of pyrotecniques triggered by very high refresh micro processors and sensor data, altho fins are honestly a good idea but still there are plenty of engineering challenges to make it reliable, a mine that launches a RPG glider thing is very interesting but would likely still be very expensive, the thing would basicly have the guidance system of a javelin and those are ridiculously expensive.
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or just make a small automatic mortar. just rig it so that if falls a certain distance and place a trigger slightly before it. if you wanna be fancy, you can place 2 trigger and a small computer to see how fast the target is moving, to see if the mortar will be able to hit it. would be slightly more expensive , but much MUCH cheaper then whatever this is.
see, this is why capitalism isn't good in war. you got money, but no brain and no bravery. but you do have fear, so you make the most advanced thing you can and hope it protects you.
The principles of this design aren't anything new. The US fields the CBU-97 Sensor Fuzed weapon, a cluster bomb with a very similar design, so it's a proven concept.