German Reacts to Oversimplified's Punic Wars!

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    Afte a long hiatus, Oversimplified is back and he's back with a banger.
    We're going back to Rome and Roman history after the Napoleonic Wars and it's time to visit one of the most cruicial wars in ancient times, the Punic Wars!
    Tommy, per usual, not very informed on this topic so he is going to be learning a lot from these Oversimplified videos.
    Honestly I think Roman history is some of the most interesting stuff out there, there's so much to cover just about Carthage and Rome on their own, not to mention everything after that.
    Rome is insane when it comes to fun history.
    Really wish a game like Imperator Rome succeeded and was as good as HOI4...
    Anyways this is a German Reacts to Punic Wars aka TommyKay reacts to Oversimplified's video on the Punic Wars!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 659

  • @xR_Leonardo
    @xR_Leonardo 2 роки тому +1204

    Oversimplified is such an absolute chad at this moment

  • @theeternalsuperstar3773
    @theeternalsuperstar3773 2 роки тому +629

    I did the math and the peace treaty demanded Carthage to pay the equivalent of 128 billion dollars. The Treaty of Lutatius was very much the Treaty of Versailles of the time.

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  2 роки тому +207

      holy 💀

    • @hanpol2053
      @hanpol2053 2 роки тому +35

      @@TommyKay there is actually a video by overly sarcastic productions about double world wars that took the comparsion

    • @chelseacomps829
      @chelseacomps829 2 роки тому +40

      That’s some countries entire GDP. Even losing 5% of your GDP is an economical disaster. Wow

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos 2 роки тому +30

      No, it was misleading but 40 millions was the total number, not one silver talent. Estimates vary (silver wasn't worth the same thing as now) but generally a silver talent of this era is considered worth around 400-500 modern day USD.
      It was still enormous for Carthage, as pre-industrial societies had very little ressources and gdp. To give an example of back then vs now, the richest Roman province in 117 AD had a lower gdp per capita than the poorest African countries today. Life was hard in the past and people were dirt poor, even in the richest areas in the world.

    • @Vengir
      @Vengir 2 роки тому +1

      @@xenotypos How much was one talent of that era in kilograms? Because for 500 USD you wouldn't even get 1 kg today.

  • @oracle372
    @oracle372 2 роки тому +1231

    Virgin Mongols vs Chad Romans
    Mongols: invade Japan twice, sink twice in a storm, give up
    Romans: Build 5 fleets from scratch, they all sink, doesn't give up, wins

    • @melonmusk8924
      @melonmusk8924 2 роки тому +78

      Gigachads

    • @achgelisfocke-wulf6851
      @achgelisfocke-wulf6851 2 роки тому +47

      maybe if the punics did the same, they would have intvented kamikaze instead

    • @SafavidAfsharid3197
      @SafavidAfsharid3197 2 роки тому +29

      Virgin roman took 700 years to conquer a little land while Chad mongols needed 70 years.

    • @melonmusk8924
      @melonmusk8924 2 роки тому +114

      @@SafavidAfsharid3197 Then lost it in a century.

    • @sirpixel7945
      @sirpixel7945 2 роки тому +67

      @@melonmusk8924 And the Romans kept it for nearly 500 years (I think)

  • @williamking579
    @williamking579 2 роки тому +1565

    Carthage: You literally just lost hundreds of thousands of men in a thunderstorm, please give up.
    Rome: No.

    • @felixmurat1677
      @felixmurat1677 2 роки тому +59

      They when full gigichad mode.

    • @Dell-ol6hb
      @Dell-ol6hb 2 роки тому +22

      they also had that problem in the second punic war too, they just wouldn't fucking give up despite losing countless men

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 2 роки тому +1

      @@Dell-ol6hb imagine not throwing all the ppl you have at the enemy not like Italy did the same in ww1 and eventually captured 1M Austrians capitulating them after losing 2M ppl and 2 of its regions to the Austro-German offensives plus the nation went bankrupt 3 times with the citizens giving all they had to keep fighting the Hasburgs ( because in Italy it wasn’t about Austria but the Asburgs in particular which had mostly meastreted and repressed the Italians ).

    • @aerosdacillo1227
      @aerosdacillo1227 2 роки тому +7

      if only genghis khan learned the romans more then there wont be an anime today

    • @floridaball4896
      @floridaball4896 2 роки тому +5

      Rome also demanded that Hannibal pay rent for squatting on Roman land after they found out about the battle of Cannae

  • @atakinpowa
    @atakinpowa 2 роки тому +668

    I love how dommy loves all the baby jokes now that he has a baby

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  2 роки тому +222

    • @Ricothegoat
      @Ricothegoat 2 роки тому +47

      He’s a father????????

    • @cantripleplays
      @cantripleplays 2 роки тому +14

      seems like he's about to do something to his baby i'd watch out if i was his baby

    • @lineyt6987
      @lineyt6987 2 роки тому +15

      @@TommyKay baby vid when

    • @IvanPlayyz
      @IvanPlayyz 2 роки тому +13

      @@TommyKay 31:06 i was laughing my ass off

  • @ZirconiumPantsTeardown
    @ZirconiumPantsTeardown 2 роки тому +150

    “Imagine being a slave that would suck” -tommykay in his genius

    • @peka003
      @peka003 Рік тому +4

      dude working in my garden: :(

    • @taxavation
      @taxavation Рік тому

      I, for one, think world hunger should stop

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. 11 місяців тому +2

      That one kid in Libya: :(

    • @digge2210
      @digge2210 11 місяців тому +1

      "sometimes my genius, it's almost frightning"

  • @hermelin205
    @hermelin205 2 роки тому +54

    If i remember correctly the corvus was a big reason why rome lost so many ships in storms

    • @hermelin205
      @hermelin205 2 роки тому

      Also my guess is that a large part of those 100 000 dead on the ships were the slave rowers!

  • @williamking579
    @williamking579 2 роки тому +125

    Oversimplified:
    uploads
    Literally every UA-camr:
    FREE CONTENT!

  • @YukoValis
    @YukoValis 2 роки тому +176

    The ships were mainly Quadrireme's and Quinquereme's. Basically how many levels of oars they had in the water. There were roughly 250-300 rowers that carried 100-200 soldiers. So 284 ships losing 100K isn't that absurd.

    • @speedy01247
      @speedy01247 2 роки тому +9

      350-500 people x 284 the lowest number you get is 99,400, the highest is 142,000.

    • @YukoValis
      @YukoValis 2 роки тому +18

      @@speedy01247 yep, give or take of course. 100,000 is a decent estimate.

    • @clubardi
      @clubardi Рік тому +1

      @@speedy01247 it literally also said ~100,000, meaning rough estimates

  • @de_rock9811
    @de_rock9811 2 роки тому +289

    The Punic wars are so cool and tommy makes it so great

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  2 роки тому +66

      roman history is insanely interesting

    • @de_rock9811
      @de_rock9811 2 роки тому +3

      @@TommyKay very true

    • @Sorieat
      @Sorieat 2 роки тому +1

      How?

    • @qfjd
      @qfjd Рік тому

      Man i wish i could get a top comment and then edit it to be very controversial😊

  • @marcxxp5881
    @marcxxp5881 2 роки тому +271

    Oversimplified gets better and better👍

  • @Savaris96
    @Savaris96 2 роки тому +110

    It is assumed that the Romans massively benefitted from a natural climate change at that time, which caused the Italian Peninsula to be insanely fertile, leading to massive population numbers, add to that the fact that condoms werent a thing back then and they reproduced like crazy with the food to actually sustain themselves, most of Romes food, even later on came from Italy and was only overtaken by the grain imports from Egypt later on

    • @locusta4662
      @locusta4662 2 роки тому +8

      actually not . The climate change happened later on when Rome was already an empire and was one of the many causes of the empire fall

    • @clubardi
      @clubardi Рік тому

      they still had a now extinct plant called silphium, that was a natural contraceptive and abortifacient (abortion) the romans used, later on in the empire era they used it so much that they made it extinct, at least that's one theory, others include climate change and overgrazing

  • @NovaSoldier
    @NovaSoldier 2 роки тому +117

    *Syracuse exists*
    Tommy: Thats a greek colony
    *Syracuse changes sides*
    Tommy: Italians! Am i right ppl?

    • @hazhoner5727
      @hazhoner5727 Рік тому +7

      Yes Germans cannot avoid talking about Italy whatever they are watching

    • @digge2210
      @digge2210 11 місяців тому +5

      In italy defence, if you live here since more than 2 generation you are italian, The Peninsula molds you, and the natives too, we are italian because we live in Italy, not viceversa

  • @Karle94
    @Karle94 2 роки тому +109

    Decided to actually look it up, on the wiki it does say that the avarage complement of that era Quinquireme was 400 men, thus, almost 300 ships lost would easily equal a 100k dead.

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  2 роки тому +39

      wtf

    • @booran.
      @booran. 2 роки тому +13

      @@TommyKay believe it now?

    • @ihavenojawandimustscream4681
      @ihavenojawandimustscream4681 2 роки тому +15

      Most of those casualties were probably galley slaves

    • @pierre9061
      @pierre9061 2 роки тому +4

      Damn, i guess they had scrap the barrel for that manpower

    • @niccolorichter1488
      @niccolorichter1488 2 роки тому +25

      @@ihavenojawandimustscream4681 werent used in ancient times both Romans and Cataginiens used payed sailors

  • @kevinsworldK.w69
    @kevinsworldK.w69 Рік тому +72

    Rome building an entire warfleet from scratch: 2 months
    The german government building a single airport: 43 years

    • @kuhluhOG
      @kuhluhOG 11 місяців тому +2

      If we would have an actual competent bureaucracy we could do the same...
      But for that we would basically need to rebuild it entirely from scratch, I doubt that the current state is actually salvageable at this point.

    • @digge2210
      @digge2210 5 місяців тому

      There are more money to steal

  • @deggho5877
    @deggho5877 2 роки тому +103

    seeing the punician/roman names for the cities of my island was so intresting:
    messana = messina,
    drepana = trapani
    Panormus = palermo ( my city )
    lilybaeum = marsala
    agrigentum = agrigento
    lipara = lipari

    • @Muffinracker
      @Muffinracker 2 роки тому +10

      It's crazy how similar they are

    • @shadow_b0itrash415
      @shadow_b0itrash415 2 роки тому +1

      @@Muffinracker exept marsala

    • @talelb6412
      @talelb6412 2 роки тому +11

      @@shadow_b0itrash415 marsala got renamed during the arabic period of sicily

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 2 роки тому +2

      @@talelb6412 a rare case in which the Arab period was influential to be fair the German Roman and Spanish had greater cultural influence and the French political and economicall.

    • @talelb6412
      @talelb6412 2 роки тому +3

      @@Boretheory I can agree that the Eastern Roman and the Spanish were more influential, but Arab left a lot of things in sicily, even after the Normans arabs still inhabited the island, becoming advisors of tutors of the new kings. The sicilians combined arabic and roman architecture to make many monuments and I advice you to come and visit, since sicily and its people are beautiful

  • @yoyyoy6376
    @yoyyoy6376 2 роки тому +43

    A TommyKay reaction video is basically watching the original video with a German guy occasionally ranting about something unrelated in the background.

    • @budury6348
      @budury6348 2 роки тому +11

      Yeah but its very entertaining

    • @kirby1225
      @kirby1225 2 роки тому

      almost like reaction videos are garbage...

  • @professionalgoob
    @professionalgoob 2 роки тому +14

    I’m pretty certain there was like 10+ rowers for each paddle, and like hundred paddles

    • @Thestuffnope
      @Thestuffnope 2 роки тому +8

      True. For being small ships compared to today, those ancient ships were brimming with men.

    • @andriandrason1318
      @andriandrason1318 2 роки тому

      2 or 1 per oar.
      According to Polybius, at the Battle of Cape Ecnomus, the Roman quinqueremes carried a total crew of 420, 300 of whom were rowers, and the rest marines. Leaving aside a deck crew of c. 20 men, and accepting the 2-2-1 pattern of oarsmen, the quinquereme would have 90 oars in each side, and 30-strong files of oarsmen. The fully decked quinquereme could also carry a marine detachment of 70 to 120, giving a total complement of about 400. A "five" would be c. 45 m long, displace around 100 tonnes, be some 5 m wide at water level, and have its deck standing c. 3 m above the sea.

  • @L_Monke
    @L_Monke 2 роки тому +22

    "According to Polybius, at the Battle of Cape Ecnomus, the Roman quinqueremes carried a total crew of 420, 300 of whom were rowers, and the rest marines."

  • @Shayrin2
    @Shayrin2 2 роки тому +27

    Italy was arguably the most densely populated place on the planet. Those numbers are ridiculous for the overall population of the place. Comparatively, Carthage was extremely sparsely populated and couldn’t afford much casualties.

    • @zosasho8036
      @zosasho8036 2 роки тому +6

      You haven’t taken a look at china

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 2 роки тому +18

      China was way worse but Italy was the most populated in the west

    • @ihavenojawandimustscream4681
      @ihavenojawandimustscream4681 2 роки тому +7

      People forget just how OP Italian peninsula was,especially back in Antiquity when most of Western Europe was lightly populated tribal ranging areas.
      Its the same with France and Britain. These countries benefited from their absurd geographical advantages before technology and consolidation of new countries reduced that advantage

    • @Shayrin2
      @Shayrin2 2 роки тому +12

      @@zosasho8036 I said arguably. And China has tons of people but compared to the size of Italy, the density at the time might be closer than you might think.

    • @digge2210
      @digge2210 11 місяців тому +1

      I think only Egypt was more populated, Italy was and still is Heaven on Earth, so much resourses, so much fertile lands, in anciet times they could manage to have many babies even just for this, plus Italy even in roman era had a settlement every few kilometers, and not villages but literal cities

  • @theeternalsuperstar3773
    @theeternalsuperstar3773 2 роки тому +55

    34:37 In WW2 the Polish had a bear that worked with artillery, so the use of a real gorilla in war is very likely. Even if not directly, some army must've lured their enemy into a gorilla den where they were promptly torn apart.

  • @petarcivic7026
    @petarcivic7026 2 роки тому +16

    Uh hello?

  • @itslowdefinition
    @itslowdefinition 2 роки тому +18

    10:25 I actually convinced my AP history teacher in Highschool to start showing these in his class after convincing him to watch a few. Unfortunately, he did it after I left Highschool but It was really cool to hear he incorporated a few of these (obviously the relevant ones) into his curriculum.

  • @Novac_Alexandru
    @Novac_Alexandru 2 роки тому +12

    I can say that I didn't knew a lot about the Punic Wars, Oversimplified makes complicated things to be simple. He's videos are a combination between entartaiment and knowledge, you will get both. He doesn't post too much because he want to make hype for he's videos and also he want's them to be perfect and well made.

  • @andreasdalsgaard3354
    @andreasdalsgaard3354 2 роки тому +19

    Once had a history teacher that was so funny and great at teaching us, there was not a single soul that hated him. Sadly or not sadly he decided to quit his job to pursue his dreams.

  • @KingOfSciliy
    @KingOfSciliy Рік тому +1

    42:45 - Most of the numbers of the dead at sea would have been the rowers who would have been slaves

  • @denniswilkerson5536
    @denniswilkerson5536 Рік тому +31

    “Sacrificing your baby, that’s like some next level shit dude.”
    I mean not really… we do it everyday in every modern society

    • @andrewmckenzie292
      @andrewmckenzie292 Рік тому +6

      Actually today is worse as back then it was usually for some (albeit flawed) beneficial reason, nowadays its just personal choice.

    • @gameover9390
      @gameover9390 Рік тому +2

      Great you just had to make this comment section politically.

  • @mariuscatalin5982
    @mariuscatalin5982 2 роки тому +14

    For those who don't get it Tommy makes reference to Qatar who used slave labor to make their world cup stadium, over 6500 people died to make it, don't watch the Qatar world cup unless you support slave labor, or plz use OTHER MEANS to watch it

    • @SlovakChestnut12233
      @SlovakChestnut12233 2 роки тому +1

      What if I want to watch it

    • @pokpok97642
      @pokpok97642 2 роки тому +7

      @@SlovakChestnut12233 pirate it lol

    • @mariuscatalin5982
      @mariuscatalin5982 2 роки тому

      @@pokpok97642 someone gets it

    • @mariuscatalin5982
      @mariuscatalin5982 2 роки тому

      @@SlovakChestnut12233 "Qatar finals online free" of course there are dubious sites but an add locker and shit and you have it

  • @red_hrlow
    @red_hrlow 2 роки тому +38

    It’s a good day when tommy reacts to oversimplified.

    • @felixmurat1677
      @felixmurat1677 2 роки тому +2

      amen to that

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  2 роки тому +8

      oversimplified is the goat

    • @red_hrlow
      @red_hrlow 2 роки тому +1

      @@TommyKay Thanks for the reply funny Ginger German Man.

  • @darkbut8864
    @darkbut8864 2 роки тому +3

    If the russian army is so bad how 200k reckt 600k soldiers ,you know Ukrain had 600k men at the start of the war whit russia and they beat the Ukrainian army 2 times till now ,cuz the Ukrain lost all ther suplies in the first month ,if nato did not give suplies to them they will have trow rocks at the russian army ,I dont say the war is good ,or what russia did was good ,but you need to give to Cezar what is Cezar ,russia won the war a sad reality

  • @nostalgiagaming560
    @nostalgiagaming560 2 роки тому +16

    I love Tommy's reactions, but one thing I CANNOT stand, is when the guy here's a scientific, historical, or other kind of fact that he doesn't "agree" with lol, then just goes "NO WAY.....FUCK OFF", like dude....wtf lol

    • @melonmusk8924
      @melonmusk8924 2 роки тому +14

      To be fair those "facts" were written 2000 years ago by Romans. Of course there's going to be some exagarations to show the how badass were the Romans.

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  2 роки тому +5

      its more of a shock thing tbh, not saying it didnt happen

    • @nostalgiagaming560
      @nostalgiagaming560 2 роки тому +2

      @@melonmusk8924 that's fair, but not really what he said

  • @user-gv6wq7tb9l
    @user-gv6wq7tb9l Рік тому +3

    carthage and rome are basically napoleonic france and britain

  • @kryzzan7039
    @kryzzan7039 2 роки тому +6

    Gotta love the kids in chat spamming that the city of Rome had over 1 million population and that's why they were able to continue the war after loosing their fleets, while in reality the city of Rome only reached that population 200-300 years later...

  • @AnnedolfFrankler911
    @AnnedolfFrankler911 2 роки тому +6

    Tommy is incredily misinformed about the situation in Ukraine.

    • @budury6348
      @budury6348 2 роки тому

      I cant take you serius with a hitler profile picture

  • @mrbox158
    @mrbox158 2 роки тому +7

    Now we wait until Hannibal grows up and than oversimplifieid will post the punic wars 2

  • @marcomvi4116
    @marcomvi4116 2 роки тому +7

    italy in ww2 did not miss courage but decent equipement and generals

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 2 роки тому

      I mean the country wasn’t even united or stable. In ww1 ppl wasn’t politically united but they wanted the Asburgs put so they all united. In ww2 the monarchists The reppublicans and the communists were unhappy with the fascists it couldn’t just last long Mussolini was appointed to maintain unity but when he failed the monarchists also left him and he was fired by the king.

    • @marcomvi4116
      @marcomvi4116 2 роки тому

      @@Boretheory this appened when the american land on sicily , the war was lost and the king fired Mussolini and in the mess of the switch side many italian died

  • @FalkyRocket2222
    @FalkyRocket2222 2 роки тому +27

    man the italians must be blessed, there are quite some battles and wars where they lose twice as much men as the enemy but its still a victory

    • @aw2584
      @aw2584 2 роки тому +4

      Blessed?
      Or just... have more manpower lol

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 2 роки тому +4

      In the first revolutionary war “Italy” lost 20k the enemy lost 80k and Italy won most of the battles despite fighting Naples France Spain and Austria alone with only Piedmont and The fourth Roman reppublic in the war yet it was lost because the enemy just had too many ppl. We’re not blessed we were determined to win. Just like ij ww1 we got bankrupt and used everything we had to stop 2.5M Soldiers with our 1.3M and eventually managed to stop them with massive economic losses and the humiliation of everyone forgetting just how close Italy was to end Austria in 1917 before the German reinforcements

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 Рік тому

      I guess the Roman used all the luck reserve if later one is any indicator

  • @jakkrit6910
    @jakkrit6910 2 роки тому +8

    in case you wonder why it so many people per ship. it including rower too just imagine the ship range of rower and they have 3 line of it + soldier on the ship.

  • @lol_histicall4289
    @lol_histicall4289 2 роки тому +15

    Oversimplified has been focusing quite a lot on Italy like war of the bucket and now Punic wars? I expected something else but this is nice Italy has an underrated history

    • @budury6348
      @budury6348 2 роки тому +1

      You are right I never saw it that way

    • @MarkosMiller15
      @MarkosMiller15 2 роки тому +2

      Tunisia too, that part of the world rarely ever gets covered

    • @aw2584
      @aw2584 2 роки тому +1

      How is it underrated, its probably the most talked about ancient civilisation, compare it to Persia or Egypt etc

    • @budury6348
      @budury6348 2 роки тому +5

      @@aw2584 he means that people talk more about world war 2 or more recent big historikal events. For example in the school i go in Germany we talked about the punik war for about 5-10 minutes

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 2 роки тому +2

      @@budury6348 i mean the medieval Italian history and modern is also super important yet it’s skipped as “ Italy formed and was bad” while the guys that united the country created the modern idea of a united Europe ( later structured by two Italians prisoners in fascist Italy) and while An Italian dynasty ( The Bonapartes) both revolutionised Europe and got their ass kicked by Bismark triggering the German unification which was also inspired by Italy final success ( there had been 7 Italian unification attempts starting from 1310 to 1850) notably the third Roman reppublic that had a lifespan of 40 yrs and a 100% win ratio on battle which is quite rare for a big nation

  • @SirAaronFox
    @SirAaronFox 2 роки тому +7

    53:05 Drew durnil is on TV
    (Tommy's face cam is covering it)

  • @RalleBDC
    @RalleBDC 6 місяців тому +1

    10:38 As a history teacher I sometimes use explainers such as videos from oversimplified. But with students between the ages of 10-14 these videos are often overflowing with information. A history lesson should not be about just pilling information upon the students. IMO it should be about giving them the tools and skills necessary to explore the wonders of history in their own and with the schoolmates.
    It’s easier for an adult with a lot of historic knowledge to watch these videos and actually gain anything from them.

  • @somedude10707
    @somedude10707 2 роки тому +3

    Wow how many times the Roman Republic came back with a bigger fleet lol!

  • @walnzell9328
    @walnzell9328 2 роки тому +5

    The Romans' terms for peace ended up being so harsh that Carthage would go to war with them again.
    Where have I heard this before?

  • @ThePointlessBox_
    @ThePointlessBox_ Рік тому +3

    Hannibal after the battle of Canae: ''you lost 80% of your male population, JUST GIVE UP MAN''
    Rome: ''ridiculum''

  • @himwhoisnottobenamed5427
    @himwhoisnottobenamed5427 Рік тому

    2:47 It’s interesting how Goya’s most well known painting was the one he never intended anyone to see.

  • @princeofgreece9054
    @princeofgreece9054 Рік тому +2

    Not the point of the video, but I will say that Roman society was one of the first civilizations to understand how to have communal facilities for sanitation that allowed for massive cities and prevented mass disease from spreading. Those communal toilets may sound disgusting to us, but it was a marvel at the time along with communal baths.

  • @ursosexmachina
    @ursosexmachina 2 роки тому +3

    more than 400,000 men died in the punic wars

  • @marco0445
    @marco0445 2 роки тому +6

    Keep in mind that a lot of this is mythos and from Roman sources. Carthage did not actually sacrifice babies for example.

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory 2 роки тому +9

      Nor did Rome just act as barbaric as described the methods of today’s and olds Italians to clean themselves are still more civilized than sticking a corn in your *ss like the Americans did or not using water and paper or sponge to clean yourself like many in the non-Latin part of the west do. I say what the Romans had was still very impressive for their massive economical issues

  • @Elisabeth99
    @Elisabeth99 2 роки тому +5

    Were the months longer in any way back then or was it that easy to work with wood? 😂

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  2 роки тому +1

      true actually

    • @bobsspike6100
      @bobsspike6100 2 роки тому +1

      Slave labour and threats of death have a way of motivating pepole.

  • @randomguy-jd8su
    @randomguy-jd8su 2 роки тому +8

    Are we not just gonna talk about how at 1:41 the video goes silent?

    • @budury6348
      @budury6348 2 роки тому +4

      In the Original Video he said kidnapping, maybe UA-cam had a problem with that

  • @breme7990
    @breme7990 2 роки тому +6

    Oh boy I do always love some roman history

  • @themammoth67
    @themammoth67 2 роки тому +8

    Sexism is a fairly new concept, women in rome didn’t pay taxes, they were treated as equal in most ways except when invaded they became slaves instead of being massacred so no, being a woman was not worse back then

    • @cryaboutit6670
      @cryaboutit6670 2 роки тому

      Yeah and slavery bad is a fairly new concept also, just less than 200 years ago was it abolished in most societies

    • @cryaboutit6670
      @cryaboutit6670 2 роки тому +1

      "They were treated as equal in every way" not really. They couldnt vote per se

    • @themammoth67
      @themammoth67 2 роки тому

      @@cryaboutit6670 women could easily influence politics in other ways, watch historia civilius

    • @cryaboutit6670
      @cryaboutit6670 2 роки тому

      @@themammoth67 "In other ways" , thats not the initial point you were making. You said " they were treated as equal in every way" but that's not true simply because they couldn't vote or hold any political office as a man could. " *In other ways* " " *equal in every way* " see the contradiction there?

    • @themammoth67
      @themammoth67 2 роки тому +1

      @@cryaboutit6670 well I didn’t mean every way did i

  • @tribuneoftheplebs9948
    @tribuneoftheplebs9948 Рік тому +3

    People often don't realize just how urban and populous and very much like our own world the ancient world was mistaking it for the medieval world which was more like the mad max leftovers trying to rebuild the glory of the ancient world.

  • @VG.AUSTEVOLL
    @VG.AUSTEVOLL 2 роки тому +3

    Wait history is not all about naming ww2 tanks?

  • @CarlosAM1
    @CarlosAM1 Рік тому +1

    Ngl him going "naaah that's bullshit I don't believe the numbers" every time a storm happened was kinda annoying. It's like someone saying they don't believe more than 50 million people died in WW2 because it's just "too big" a number for them.

    • @UrMom-jb7vl
      @UrMom-jb7vl Рік тому

      Tommy says a lot of dumb stuff but he's right to be a bit skeptical. There isn't actually an accurate record of the casualties and so you usually have to estimate them and thats not always going to be correct. Not to mention both sides tend to exaggerate the losses of enemies compared to their own. Even in modern wars this is a thing.

  • @cringebrudi
    @cringebrudi 2 роки тому +2

    31:20 beeing anybody accept for the rich it did suck majorly. Not just the men but the women and the children too.

  • @BlackfyreHD
    @BlackfyreHD 2 роки тому +2

    Why mute the audio when oversimplified said kidnapped, but when Tommy says it 2 seconds after it’s fine?

  • @dafuqmr13
    @dafuqmr13 Рік тому +1

    1:34 someone said "this is a myth i think", that my friend is the smartest tommykay's viewer

  • @bombidil3
    @bombidil3 Рік тому +2

    40:57 Literally the backbone of Roman philosophy.

  • @Arphenonn
    @Arphenonn 2 роки тому +1

    "The Treaty was extremely punishing" (52:20) things are getting familiar rn Tommy eh? xD

  • @ryangoslingIRL
    @ryangoslingIRL 2 роки тому +1

    Rome had around 2.5m population in 200bc

  • @DoctorWu23
    @DoctorWu23 Рік тому

    Shoulda ended it with Hamilcar making his son swear a blood oath to destroy rome. Coolest guy ever.

  • @miguelmarques8593
    @miguelmarques8593 2 роки тому +5

    Good editing Subaku!

  • @henryhill1231
    @henryhill1231 8 місяців тому +1

    Punic wars 2!!!!!!!!!

  • @Enoughdata
    @Enoughdata 2 роки тому

    So I did some research on whether 100,000 soldiers drowned in the storm. So, 100,000/284 would be 352 soldiers per boat. The Quinquereme could hold 400 people in charge of the boat alone, along with 100 soldiers. So 500 in total. So it looks like yeah, if they really lost 284 ships in one storm, they really lost about a hundred thousand soldiers. Damn.

  • @RedLogicYT
    @RedLogicYT 2 роки тому +4

    This video was beautifully edited, they skipped all his rants.

  • @petermannheim6527
    @petermannheim6527 11 місяців тому +1

    i somehow dont believe in the numbers presented in this battles because it seems that the historians got their number everytime from roman sources and there was not much of another party too validate this. i think the romans liked too brag about how big the battles where maybe.

    • @TheGamePlayZoneDE
      @TheGamePlayZoneDE 10 місяців тому

      the romans did that, thats why sources of today always claim more appropriate numbers.

  • @steampunkangel6530
    @steampunkangel6530 2 роки тому

    Tommy you know the romans had a large surplus of food stuffs ensuring a large population as well they had a lot of adult parties.

  • @BisexualPlagueDoctor
    @BisexualPlagueDoctor 2 роки тому

    My favorite German watching my favorite historians

  • @dzakobgenstr52
    @dzakobgenstr52 2 роки тому +2

    SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    • @TommyKay
      @TommyKay  2 роки тому +2

      SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

  • @kayzeaza
    @kayzeaza Рік тому

    I assume most of the deaths in the ships were slaves who rowed

  • @3NC3PH4L0N
    @3NC3PH4L0N 2 роки тому +3

    Roma showed that mimikry is the most OP skill imho

  • @norwegianguy
    @norwegianguy Рік тому +1

    0:03 I have a very powerful speaker, that censor sound made my house shake.

  • @HackerArmy03
    @HackerArmy03 2 роки тому +4

    There's just some thing mystical and so inspiring about Rome AND Romans that other big empires at the time (the Chinese Dynasties, Indian Empires, middle eastern empires) couldn't replicate.
    And if you guys want to watch a detailed version of the events, please check out "Kings and Generals" and "Invicta", they're really great with their own animated battles! Despite being long, if you're interested, I guarantee you'll like it :3

    • @SafavidAfsharid3197
      @SafavidAfsharid3197 2 роки тому

      Maybe because there are romeboos and many videos about rome? Like people in the west are being fed how Greece city state started democracy or how roman empire was big and unique so of course for you guys it look like this. No one in west knows of indian republics during mahajanapada period or how large the Chinese armies were.

    • @HackerArmy03
      @HackerArmy03 2 роки тому +3

      @@SafavidAfsharid3197 Well, for starters, I'm SE Asian. And... eh, for some reason I just don't get interested in anything related to India (sorry) so personal bias is certainly there. Though their Gods being depicted on some games (Like Asura's Wrath) on the other hand, is really epic! But apart from that, I don't really... well.

    • @aoimidori1237
      @aoimidori1237 Рік тому

      ​​@@HackerArmy03 you are implying Rome is better than China, which is debatable. I'd say both are the greatest ancient empires recorded. Even since ancient time Rome and China views each other as equal existence.

  • @freddieneesam9507
    @freddieneesam9507 2 роки тому

    XCIX when you say it sounds like six

  • @jsweetland6523
    @jsweetland6523 2 роки тому +1

    HELLO HELLO UH WELCOME TO YOUR NEW SUMMER JOB AT FREDDY FAZBEAR PIZZA

  • @Moshinoki
    @Moshinoki Рік тому +1

    Sad they didn't bring this up:
    Obviously, after feeling betrayed, Hamilcar Barca didn't return to Carthage. He sailed west on the Mediterranean to the coast of modern day Catalonia and founded a big settlement in that area. That settlement was named Barcelona, after Barca.

  • @SafavidAfsharid3197
    @SafavidAfsharid3197 2 роки тому +2

    When talking about elephant i think many people in the west only think of scenarios involving Greeks or Carthage but forget the elephant have been in warfare in india longer, india and south east Asia should provide a look into elephants in the warfare.

  • @dan_ita4693
    @dan_ita4693 Рік тому +3

    “Why y’all Italians not like that?” Well as an Italian i would like to say that there’s differences between Romans and Italians

    • @digge2210
      @digge2210 11 місяців тому +1

      Solo nell'ethos

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 2 роки тому +2

    35:44 only between superiors and inferiors. Not those of equal rank.
    They thought of relations as dominant party and submissive one. Not preferences.

  • @fakename6004
    @fakename6004 2 роки тому +2

    Carthage also went down the coast of West Africa

  • @sld1776
    @sld1776 2 роки тому +1

    "30,000 must have been so much back then..." You just wait German ginger man. Just wait.

  • @elciquito8159
    @elciquito8159 2 роки тому +2

    When he said "1 more year for the next video" I went in sad mode immediately
    😀➡️😢

  • @johnnywalker5068
    @johnnywalker5068 2 роки тому +2

    Honestly though, that painting of Saturn eating his own kiddo is some Attack on Titan level shit.

  • @ryanmargetts8155
    @ryanmargetts8155 2 роки тому +1

    Man… woman doesn’t matter living in these times would have been awful for almost everyone

  • @jakkrit6910
    @jakkrit6910 2 роки тому +1

    when you think about it.if you make a mistake once you die. how the hell you can grown a great commander with out a single lose in a war? by the end of each war they have to replace the whole roster of commander i think.

  • @Wow_btw
    @Wow_btw 2 роки тому +2

    Markoni carried again

  • @55qEditz
    @55qEditz 8 місяців тому +1

    Roman Enemy reacts to Rome

  • @Jelly-lw6ro
    @Jelly-lw6ro 2 роки тому +2

    Great video Tommy! Keep up the great work! I love Oversimplified and I think it's great your watching his videos. Now we just have to wait another year and a half for part 2!

  • @ABeeWX
    @ABeeWX Рік тому +1

    10:12 my teacher actually does 💀💀

  • @speedy01247
    @speedy01247 2 роки тому +1

    for anyone wondering Carthage had to pay the equivilent of 128 billion dollars in 10 years. (hence why it was so terrible for them) especially seeing as the previous amount was 88 billion in 20 years. (so from 4.4 billion a year to 12.8 billion a year)

  • @sketch_4966
    @sketch_4966 2 роки тому +1

    Am I crazy or didn’t tommy have more subs than this

  • @ihavenojawandimustscream4681
    @ihavenojawandimustscream4681 2 роки тому +1

    Looking back,its pretty absurd that a bunch of German tribals managed to do what Carthage and her grand fleet failed to accomplish

  • @Mr_OogaBooga
    @Mr_OogaBooga 2 роки тому +1

    Please go back to ck2 videos its so interesting and entertaining its the perfect combination between War lore and family Please consider making a ck2 video ck3 is uhhh well still in its diapers

  • @karbitgameing6921
    @karbitgameing6921 2 роки тому

    Please play kasikstan in millennium dawn or a contry that broke off when the soviet union collapsed

  • @NorwegianSedevacantist
    @NorwegianSedevacantist 2 роки тому +1

    Leviticus 19:22 "Thou shalt watch oversimplified videos when he hath spoken"

  • @Otto_Von_Beansmarck
    @Otto_Von_Beansmarck 2 роки тому +1

    15:30 Knowing how romans reacted when they lost this battle it probably wouldn't have changed anything

  • @FACM.
    @FACM. 2 роки тому +1

    I vote for the Norse-African Carthage Revival in Crusader Kings 💪😎

  • @LT_Silver
    @LT_Silver Рік тому

    There's one thign that oversimplified got very wrong in teh video. Rome didn't forcefully conqure all of the nations on it's borders in the italian region. If they tried that, they would of been destroyed. 1 city alone can't take on an entire reagion like that. They actually diplomatically annexed quite a few of it's neighbors. That's how they got enough strength to take on it's enemies. They promised protection and security from other cities in exhange for annexation which many agreed to

  • @Wiz_Online
    @Wiz_Online Рік тому

    TommyKay constantly denying the insane numbers in ancient armies is kinda annoying. Sure they were exaggerated by historians, slightly, but not from 10k to 100k, it would've been more like 80k to 100k, or 5k to 10k. Plus, we have archaeological evidence of huge ancient armies, so I don't understand why Uneducated Andy here is so vehement.