Obi-wan Kenobi (All Forms) vs Anakin Skywalker (All Forms)

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  • @habibou65
    @habibou65 2 місяці тому +6

    0:53 bro, Obi gets Iq and battle I.Q

    • @vihaannittoor7605
      @vihaannittoor7605 День тому +1

      Anakin built working droid at 9. He gets iq. Biq goes to kenobi tho

  • @hellopuppyarecool
    @hellopuppyarecool 3 місяці тому +6

    BIQ goes to Obi-Wan and kenobi series doesn't exist in EU lmao. Other than that straight facts and W. Also ROTS Kenobi no-low diffs Legends ROTJ Vader (EU Suited Vader kinda weak)

  • @emperoroftime
    @emperoroftime 3 місяці тому +5

    one of the most accurate anakin vs obi wan edits i've seen so far...some really didnt understand IQ and BIQ ... anakins fast learning ability and ideas as well as his strategic skills are the best, and not to forget that he was always at the frontlines during the clone wars. The council sent anakin all the time in difficult situations

    • @MalcolmMerlyn-hw7mz
      @MalcolmMerlyn-hw7mz 3 місяці тому

      Bro Anakin was still under training of Obi-Wan, Council sent Obi-Wan most of the time to settle the issues.
      Anakin most of the time relied on improvisation and as Ashoka said when they crashed in Mortis "he always blames the plane"
      Obi-Wan is better at exploiting things in his surroundings to his advantage than Anakin who often relies on force many of the times.
      Obi-Wan definitely takes battle iq in atleast pre Vader Anakin.
      And all this qualities and Anakin can't even keep his cool with Obi-Wan in the battle field, they fought three times real time, Obi-Wan defeated him 2/3, even in the last Obi-wan surrendered and didn't even gave Vader the satisfaction of that win.

  • @Avo1611
    @Avo1611 Місяць тому +3

    Iq and BIq will always go to Obi wan during the prequels

    • @vihaannittoor7605
      @vihaannittoor7605 День тому

      Anakin built a droid at 9

    • @Avo1611
      @Avo1611 День тому +1

      @@vihaannittoor7605 the kid was dumb enough to trust Palpatine and got stuck in a robotic body with spikes to his head

  • @SpideyWebSlinger111
    @SpideyWebSlinger111 3 місяці тому +8

    should've compared them in phantom menace as well

    • @Cdog749
      @Cdog749 2 місяці тому +1

      A 25 year old trained Jedi Vs a 9 year old boy?

    • @FallenAngeell
      @FallenAngeell 24 дні тому

      ​@@Cdog749TPM Anakin wins, beyond negative diff))

  • @user-xr6ix4kx6p
    @user-xr6ix4kx6p 2 місяці тому +1

    Anakin/Vader: "I just can't explain it. I'm simply... better than you."

  • @user-bm1kc1pq5c
    @user-bm1kc1pq5c 2 місяці тому +1

    quite accurate, but i would say there's some changes to make
    TCW S7: low diff, because IH Pre Rage anakin, who is >= Pre IH anakin was able to get an edge on dooku initially, who ragdolled IH obi wan, Utapau obi wan, who is supposed to be far stronger than IH obi wan via losing fear on utapau also wasn't one shotting general grievous, he only low diffed him, who is weaker than dooku, and utapau obi wan no diffs IH obi wan,
    just like cere when losing fear in Jedi Survivor had made her stronger to the point of almost beating Jedi Survivor vader (it's said he was only holding back initially, after the archives come down on him, that's when he gets serious) even tho in Jedi Fallen Order when she had fear, she was getting no diffed by a Holding Back vader.
    IH vs Utapau: dueling, feats and scaling goes to obi wan, who wins low-mid diff.
    Dueling/feats/scaling
    - obi wan, on the invisible hand, so before losing fear, was skilled enough to not be out dueled by dooku, which means IH obi wan is = dooku in dueling at worse (below dooku in power tho, that's why he stays inferior to dooku) and Utapau obi wan >>>>>>>> IH obi wan in dueling and the force at worse (no-low diff).
    - Obi wan also outdueled grievous with 4 sabers who was an issue for S6 yoda when only using 1 saber instead of 4, yoda is stated to below S7 anakin and has an unquantifiable growth, so the fact is:
    Utapau obi wan >>>> Prime grievous = S6 yoda =< S7 yoda =< Pre IH anakin = IH dooku =< IH Pre Rage anakin,
    obi wan had a difficult fight with grievous at first, but i would argue it's because he has 4 sabers and was unpredictable, which gave him an unfair advantage at first, but after that, obi wan was able to easily dominate the general.
    MFV vs MFK (MFV wasn't conflicted, he tried to kill obi wan multiple times without hesitation): strength, durability, speed and agility is a tie, battle iq goes to obi wan, dueling, power and feats is a tie, scaling goes to obi wan, who wins extreme diff.
    Strength/speed/dueling/power/feats
    - they stalemated in a force push in the building, and in an arm contest on the bridge, they were also just as fast as each other as shown on screen and in canon sources as well, they were also roughly at a stalemate with anakin winning extreme diff only because of he switched to juyo which counters soresu due to its extreme speed and unpredictability so they're equal in dueling and therefore feats as well considering in raw scaling, none of them outperforms each other in these categories.
    Durability/agility
    - For durability and agility, there's no direct feats to these categories to suggest one is superioir over the other, but based on the fact that they have equal force augmentation, i put them as equal.
    Battle iq
    - obi wan did not cooked like a chicken wing (no offense for anakin i like that character).
    Scaling
    - obi wan is equal to anakin in dueling and the force, but is stronger minded, so he takes the edge for me as mentality is also important for a fighter.
    KS (kenobi series): strength, durability, power, and abilities goes to obi wan, and it's mid diff.
    Strength/power/abilities
    - obi wan hurt vader very badly with a force blast to the point where he was screaming even before hitting the rock and being down for 10 seconds, and he is also stated to have overpowered and made vader helpless in insider.
    - For abilities, obi wan has Oneness.
    Durability
    - same reason as before, no feats but obi wan gets the point because of far better force augmentation.
    ROTJ vs ROTS: no diff, because vader at this point is on the level of PRE ROTJ sidious at the very least.

  • @ultraironflash8140
    @ultraironflash8140 3 місяці тому +1

    people who dont understand why anakin lost is due to conflict and obiwan also taught anakin everything he knew so thats also a big part

    • @heatherleisure9217
      @heatherleisure9217 18 днів тому

      Real fans understand that the Jedi were collectively weakened in the Force due to mass death of the Clone Wars. There’s a reason it’s mentioned by Mace in the movie “Our ability to use the Force has diminished” and canon written material goes into more detail. It’s both about mass death that occurs during big wars and the actions of most Jedi and how they changed due to the war. Muh “conflicted” is cancelled out because the Light was diminishing and the Dark was growing as the war progressed. The lowest point would have been after Order 66 and the years afterward when the Empire is hunting and exterminating the remaining Jedi. Anakin and Obi-Wan were stalemated in Force telekinesis because Obi-Wan is still very strong in the Light for reasons unique to certain Jedi like Obi-Wan and Ahsoka that you probably don’t think are important in SW mechanics.

  • @Avo1611
    @Avo1611 Місяць тому +1

    Iq and BIq will always go to Obi wan

  • @demoncore4467
    @demoncore4467 Місяць тому

    It always makes me chuckle when obi-wan and Knightfall Vader get compared and Vader always wins mid/high diff….but he lost in canon lol.

    • @FallenAngeell
      @FallenAngeell 24 дні тому

      Cuz he was conflicted. Here he's not conflicted

  • @RayAkuma
    @RayAkuma 3 місяці тому +1

    My favorite obi wan form is Super Jedi 3

  • @talharashid3445
    @talharashid3445 3 місяці тому

    I heard somewhere than anakin in rots is still a couple years younger than kenobi I’m tpm, which is crazy as anakin was so close to be a Jedi master while keno I was still a padawan

  • @DFK_Edits
    @DFK_Edits 3 місяці тому +1

    Kenobi Series are Canon
    ANH Vader Low Diffs Old Ben
    ROTJ Vader No Diffs MFK

  • @Li_Mn
    @Li_Mn 3 місяці тому

    Full potential Anakin Vs Obi Wan, anakin takes every area, overall winner, Kenobi. Because it's Anakin and he'd find a way to lose.

  • @Galaxyeditzzz
    @Galaxyeditzzz 3 місяці тому

    W

  • @GeneralKenobiEdits1
    @GeneralKenobiEdits1 3 місяці тому +2

    IQ + BIQ Anakin 😂😂😂😂😂
    Anakin fanboy

    • @thejedi3000Slayer
      @thejedi3000Slayer 3 місяці тому

      i built an protocol droid when i was nine man. i have better iq then you. and battle iq, well i would says draw.

    • @thejedi3000Slayer
      @thejedi3000Slayer 3 місяці тому

      i built an droid when i was nine. so i take iq. battle iq is a draw

    • @JudgeGundir
      @JudgeGundir 3 місяці тому

      There is nothing to laught at =)
      Anakin showed much more in terms of battle iq in the clone wars but he could not control himself on Mustafar so exactly in this fight I do not agree with author and Biq of course goes to Obi-Wan.

    • @GeneralKenobiEdits1
      @GeneralKenobiEdits1 3 місяці тому

      @@JudgeGundir IQ to Obi-Wan

    • @JudgeGundir
      @JudgeGundir 3 місяці тому

      @@GeneralKenobiEdits1 sure, during the fight on Mustafar

  • @talharashid3445
    @talharashid3445 3 місяці тому

    Knight fall would lose to obi was due to his immense arrogance and ego to prove himself superior to kenobi in that duel

  • @jtpj4245
    @jtpj4245 3 місяці тому

    ROTS Vader shouldn’t get IQ. He literally got sliced in half after Obi Wan got the upper hand and warned him what would happen if he tried to jump.

  • @antonyvitoraraujo3036
    @antonyvitoraraujo3036 2 місяці тому

    Iq and Battle Iq Goes to Mustafar Obi Wan Kenobi

  • @user-bm1kc1pq5c
    @user-bm1kc1pq5c 2 місяці тому

    you said EU next to kenobi series because you don't consider it canon right?

  • @StanKIrby-lw8vh
    @StanKIrby-lw8vh Місяць тому

    Bro obi wan slams mustafar

  • @frankyager133
    @frankyager133 3 місяці тому

    Name song?

    • @forcehook
      @forcehook  3 місяці тому +1

      My ordinary life I think

  • @user-lq6tm2fi7z
    @user-lq6tm2fi7z 3 місяці тому

    WW

  • @talharashid3445
    @talharashid3445 3 місяці тому

    I heard somewhere than anakin in rots is still a couple years younger than kenobi I’m tpm, which is crazy as anakin was so close to be a Jedi master while keno I was still a panda wan

  • @WSWEDITZ
    @WSWEDITZ 3 місяці тому

    W

  • @DarthGrogusolos
    @DarthGrogusolos 3 місяці тому

    W