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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Watch as Fender's John Dreyer and Rick Heins demo the new Tone Master Deluxe Reverb. Learn more about the Tone Master Series here: bit.ly/2ko9Vnc
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I hate how easy it is for people to say it's too expensive without understanding how much work goes into something like this! I can appreciate the art and the passion needed to produce something like this from an engineering perspective.
A good 1x12 all pine cab with a well designed speaker is at least 350 dollars on its own.... then you have everything else.. and they have to make some profit.
Exactly
Working class kids used to be able to afford it, now they can't. It's inflation's fault. But matter of the fact is that it's gotten too expensive for 'Starving Musicians' or working class kids.
They are just too broke! Thats it, they make excuses and blame it on companies like Fender
I just bought this amp to take to pub gigs and local jams and it's incredible. Plus, the. XLR output on the back for recording works perfectly. It sounds so good and you can record in silence if needed. I love this amp. Bravo, Fender.
So great that you like it! Quick question with the XLR out; does the sound coming out replicate what your amp settings are? For example, if you have the amp cranked, the reverb on 4, and a few pedals on, is that the sound that goes to front of house? I'm gonna use mine for a gig next week, but haven't had a chance to try the XLR out. Cheers
Fender makes the best amps, and guitars.
The guitars are fine. But not CS etc high prices for bolt on neck. The Asian models are as good with just a little tweaking, 2k less. Cheaper labour, ditto Mex guitars, very good.
Charging 6k or more for a bolt on neck guitar is criminal.
I've had quite a few very expensive 6k to 1k, USA, Mex, even Chinese (work required but getting better every year), I rely on the Asian models for gigging.
The US guitars aren't worth the money new. Used fine .... The margin is huge as is their marketing budget.
Don't pay for Fender Execs' corporate jets.
2 suggestions:
1. Make more in this series (bassman, vibrolux, etc.)
2. Make an amp that goes to eleven.
The blues deluxe and hot rod series go to 12
@@belowcelcius5406 I know it's from a movie. It's called This is Spinal Tap.
Nolan R Nolan R I know I get the reference I’m making the joke that they already did that also I do agree with your first point honestly though I think you just need to bring back the actual 59 bassman that would be awesome
I'd totally spring for a Vibrolux.
@@nolanr7679 As I recall, that amp in Spinal Tap was from the British M-brand.
You guys should make the Tone Master Princeton Reverb :)
Thank you! This is exactly what I want.
I second this!
i think it needs the 12 inch though since it doesnt have the valve dynamics
YESSS
And it happened
At 79 this is the Best thing Fender could do for me. I've owned most of the Fender tube amps. They are great. But this one wieghs only 24 lbs. and has no hot tubes to overheat. It sounds just like my old De Luxe. Love it!
I'm glad that Fender, if they're going to go a bit more "pro" with modeling amps, is just sticking to what they do best: Fender amps. I use a Mustang as a practice amp and, while not really as sophisticated as this, the Fender amp models are the ones I stick with. They've been making amps forever so I trust they're putting the detail of their own gear into a digital amp they designed.
Besides, not like they're stopping making their tube amps so you can buy what sounds best to you. I like having that choice.
Ok
The amp I want at the volume I need - great job
I listened to this demo through my Focal studio monitors. I've owned vintage Vibrolux's, Deluxe's and Princeton's, and I'm pretty amazed to be honest. This amp could be a game changer. I can't understand those who don't see the appeal. Maybe they don't record music? To me, the practical appeal is that this amp seems to serve a breadth of different and unique use cases very well. Bravo Fender. As usual.
It's expensive, but I think I get the point of this amp. If I were a gigging musician who played a DRRI, I'd much rather take this on the road. Less weight, less maintenance, and the crowd would never know the difference.
Easy to take the Tonemaster badge off.
Tone Master 57 Deluxe. Imagine what you could do with those quad cores if two don't need to be used on the reverb and one on the vibrato. Bring it Fender!
Honestly I was very biased before I played this amp in person. I got to run it all through different volumes and it really surprised me. It sounded awesome cranked almost couldn't believe it. I will say the only thing for me that was weird was if you played it over 7 on volume, the Reverb would increase like double. A simple fix was just to turn the Reverb back down from 3 to like 1 or 2. It really almost sounded as good as the drri. And really, face it, everyone in the audience really isn't going to hear a difference.
to me the most important thing is that when you play any amp, it excites you as a player and makes you want to like have more conversation, so to speak, with the amp. and this amp definitely did that for me.
I would feel comfortable playing out with this amp for sure. And again I was very not expecting to like this amp but hey you guys really did it it!! ~ sounds great
It sounds great, looks great. I wanna try one. Fender has been killing it with the new technologies that they have brought out in the past years. My fender rumble is amazing, and I use it for guitar all the time. I do have expensive tube amps and I still go back to my class d rumble.
Ive been a professional guitar player and session player for over 25 yrs and the best amp for multi styles is this amp. Blues funk soul country surf rock heavy rock metal jazz folk on hundreds of records. I mean if you specialize on metal only get a Marshall but this is the holy grail for multi styles. This is the swiss army knife of amps. From Isley Brothers to Def Leppard at the same gig.
They sound pretty good.
I guess they saw the positive sales that Roland achieved with the Blues Cube series.
The built in attenuator and light weight with no tube maintenance. I love my Blues Cube Hot. I will have to try this out in person.
I now have one of these. I have been totally gobsmacked. The attenuator allows me to rehearse with the most gorgeous tones but without blowing my (or anybody else’s) ears out. Plugged into my DAW, it still feels and sounds like I am playing it live. Just try one.
I think these are great for any gigging muscian. The weight savings is a huge plus. While I wish it were a little less expensive it is still $200 less than the tube version. Guitar Center and other music outlets often have 10 or 15 % off sales which gets the price down below $800. Well done Fender!
I have the real thing and for me it´s sounds amazing close ! Deluxe Reverb is for me the best guitar amp made by Fender !
I love the intelligence and technical toneoligy of these demons. It makes me feel I'm on the cutting edge of what is really happening...with the sound of today's fenders greatest breakthroughs. Thumbs up!
I lifted one up and it was like air. Didn't get a chance to try it. I see now I need to
Yeah, I’m gonna need a Tweed Deluxe Tone Master, please and thank you. 🙂🤘
One of Rick Heins best sound in the intro dude stay with jazz great playing
The cleanest tones! Pure beauty!
TY. Went & played. Convinced! Need 5 substitute assignments to buy one. I start in August! Never been in hurry to get back till now. LOL! No smoke & mirrors on this one. 23 lbs. unbelievable!
Yeah, just got my TM Deluxe- this thing is great!
Headbangers just cannot get away from that bridge. What makes the deluxe reverb so nice is the neck sound.
I played one of these in my local music store and was amazed at the "feel" of it. It's like playing a tube amp. The reverb was on 2 and there was too much, but it sounded great. I like that you can get the cranked sound at any volume and the weight relieve is also very nice. Will they hold up on the road and he around forty years from now? Time will tell.
You can't tell until you're in a noisy bar standing next to a drum kit where a guy is really hitting hard and you're taking a solo and your tone is mushy and notes are disappearing you can't tell in some music store but I can tell you there's no new advancements in transistor technology Palma it's the same old solid state maybe if you're a Albert King and you have a 300 watt amp you can have lousy tone and be heard but it's not good. This amp appears to be a hybrid, but you can't match 22 Watts coming from a 6 V6 tube from any transistor, that's just not happening. I have the broken back to prove it, carrying around these heavy things all these years the few times I've tried solid state equipment very disappointing
Comic Blues with Jonygitar I hear you. I’m not giving up my Route 66 or my 67 Bassman anytime soon. I was impressed with the feel of it for being solid state. It’s come a long way since the were fist made.
@Luke Robinett nothing new pal, transitors, looks like mosfet, 60 years old, lacks dynamic range at any output.
Do you play professionally? Do you own any amps? Ever used a transistor amp in loud gig?
Class d is just another mosfet circuit, meaningless babble. They don't sound the same, maybe by yourself at home it's similar. Not in a band situation, no pro will use transistors, thanks for the nice compliments, its the price i pay for knowing more than most people.
The accuracy of the IR’s was insane.
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Deluxe reverb is the best amp ever. Honestly, it just has everything in my opinion, ofc you’ll need pedals but still this is an awesome amp.
Oh john mayer with fender reviewing the tone master great!!!!!
Played the Tone Master Deluxe Reverb the other day at GC. It's a killer amp and the attenuation feature was a nice surprise , not cheap but this has many features I want
I have to confess, I'm torn between this and the Fender 68 Custom Pro Reverb for club gigs. The latter is also quite light. No attenuator of course, and there's the added cost of tube replacement. But it sounds so good. Tough decision, for me.
We need a Tone Master Super Reverb version
Now there is one.
I bought one and it sounds amazing.
jips123 agree bought one today brand new only amp I have ever bought brand new. And I’m in love. It’s awesome that we live in a world that can produce technology like this....it’s going to change the music industry forever!
I just bought this amp. I like everything about it. Nice warm tube tone. I won't part with mine.
I think Fender did incredibly well with this. Digital amps are really, really close to vacuum tube stuff now, and if they made a Tweed version of this, that'd be amazing.
That said, I don't quite get why they used a 5-way attenuator. Why not just have a normal master volume control? It seems reductive and limiting considering it's a digital amp. What if you wanted a little bit less or a little bit more volume than any one of the positions? If it doesn't alter the tone in any way, why not have it a continuous control? It feels like the only reason to have it is for amplifier purists who think that master volumes on vintage tube amps are the devil.
I am looking forward to all big specialists and top musicians using fake names behind their keyboard claiming it sounds bad...
I played one at a fender demo with the new vintera Strat in the Netherlands. And I gotta say, it sounds like a tube amp and it sounds amazing.
I think it sounds great and I can see an advantage into having one but at least for me an appeal in owning a Fender amp is knowing that it's made in America. Even if it does break your back and to get a good sound you need to deafen half of the street you live on ;p Just the made in the USA thing would make me happy just to own one.
My Dad had a Fender Twin years ago and I wished now he'd never sold it. Ahh well!
But yeah that said, this is a lovely sounding amp.
sounds like my Fender JAM 70W. Even the point that I cant turn the volume level over 3-4 If I don't want to disturb a lot of my neighbors when I want to try some rock/metal I have the JAM since 1997 : D
Fender you should make a digital tweed amp if you did it would be a fraction of the cost of the super expensive tube tweed amps and it would sell like hot cakes I would buy that because I can't afford a real tweed amp and don't want to splurge on something like that but I would buy a digital one if it was a fraction of the cost in a heartbeat
Serious question: if it's not cheaper than a tube amp, and certainly doesn't sound BETTER (their whole pitch is that it sounds "just like" the real thing, not better), what's the point? It's not as heavy??
The cost of a DRRI is $200 more, you need to buy and replace tubes, the DRRI has no power scaling or direct out, and it's heavier.
Not saying I'm buying one, my Tweed Deluxe clone does all I need. But I can see the appeal.
Why did people move from albums to CD to streaming? Price. Convenience. Technology. I love mine. Especially plugging XLR out to iPad to also process granular / glitch / layering effects and sounds waaayyy better than my other high end modeling solution while being as familiar as an amp.
@@JR-gw5sw Vinyl records outsold CDs last year. You know why? Because they sound better.
Sure did. I bought a ton of vinyl. But they only sold more because it’s a fad that is extremely is to mark up. Which format delivered more music last year, that was complete enjoyable to more people. Streaming. Fads go. Technology marches on. There are now lossless formats that literally are as high a resolution as analog (technically higher if recorder in that format). Vinyl may die once us older dudes and hipsters go. But we will end up with higher quality, cheaper. Same with amps. Sound is nothing by physics and physics is math. It will be 100% concurred. Some people will always hold on to “the real thing” but it won’t be “better” any more except in the subjective judgment of the owner. Hell, I will always own a tube amp. Or 7. But it is so ridiculous that so many outright reject it without full knowledge, experience, and consideration. I have always been an early adopter and people have always caught up. Always.
@@JR-gw5sw Except all math/science hasn't been figured out in regards to re-creating psychoacoustics. If you throw both amps in front of a spectrum analyzer you are going to see the differences in the sound and the artifacts created. The gold is in the flaws. If the sound is too sterile compared to the real thing then people notice.
Great groove in the beginning
Got mine today. So ridiculous that it took so long to invent this. I’ve been waiting decades.
I have a boss katana head I bought it as a portable fun practice amp, not as a gig amp to replace my Marshall jvm, never thought of it as a substitute for my valve amp, I got the opportunity to take it to a gig and sat it on my jvm with Marshall 1936 2x12, I'd decided to try it in the first set and if I didn't like it I could easily swap it over, I never did it was a truy enjoyable musical experience, I was amazed it was brilliant, not once did I care that it wasn't a valve amp I just enjoyed it for what it was , and it was plenty loud enough on the 50watt setting, my only complaint was the clean tone , which is now MUCH better thanks to the tone studio, I play a couple of gigs a year in my covers band , using mainly mild crunch to full on lead tones, which the katana exells at, what I'm trying to say is that solid state amps really have come on in leaps and bounds, and can be a good alternative to valves, katanas are cheap, but these fenders are not, we are all used to the tranny amp being the budget little brother of the top of the range valve amp, i think these fenders sounded really good but at the price the quality really has to be there and they have to be totally reliable and road Worthy. Deserve a chance I reckon
Good points. My concern is repairs down the road. I don't think these will last 30 years like the tube amps.
I've had a lot of amps valve and SS in 50 years, my take is they don't cut through live. Same for all SS amps regardless of brand.
I am about to get a Vibro Chamo for its low wattage, but the attenuator on this one seems like a better solution. I am hearing on some forums that vibro champ is still very loud if you want the crunch tones. And adding an attenuator to it is not straightforward.
Any opinions?
Make a Super Sonic in this and I am 100% going to buy one.
The amp I wish I could have in my little home studio plus for this closet guitarist. One day, cheers Peter. Hobart, Tasmania...the Arts end of the World!
That’s how great guitars and a great amp sound.
Would love to see and hear a true comparison with a tube deluxe.
Andertons has one here on UA-cam. I'm looking forward to comparing in the store too.
@Luke Robinett ua-cam.com/video/WeDr7u_hwGA/v-deo.html
I own two of them but uninformed of the potential they can give me. I have link to all that is FENDER. Wow!
Am I the only crazy nut here who wants this in a tweed Princeton format with more power. Dream amp would be Tone Master tweed Princeton with about twice the power with a jack for plugging into an external speaker cab and an attenuator with 10watt, 5watt, 1watt, and .5watt, .1watt settings! Woot!
My favorite amp ! Thanks guys . Soon my first gig with this baby
It would be nice to see some silverface tone masters
The day that Fender learn to add FX loop in their classic amps and sell them with reasonable price, I will buy a Fender amp. If this is the best innovation they are capable of after 70 years of innovation, what can you say? Marshall has understood better the demand of the market with their studio amps
I own a Fender LT25 great little home amp, but I am keeping my eyes on the next amp , I do love the attenuator function and the sound is brilliant, but it strikes all the right chords for me, but this video was 2019 I like to see if any other famous Fender Amps are going digital for 2021 ,
I would def go for a vibrolux version. Please.
Have on. Love it. Will post some vids soon.
Oh how I love thee. I have to say I am 100% loyal to fender amps.
I am exclusively a bedroom/apartment player. I don’t see myself gigging in the near future. Would you recommend this amp to me?
I currently use a Yamaha THR.
I am wondering if this would be a significant step up in sound, feel and playing experience for me.
This amp sounds great but wanted to know how people feel with it at gigs and how it does with outside gigs as well?
What is the difference between this digital Tonemaster and the Deluxe Reverb amp found as a preset on the Fender Mustangs ? They're both digital amps.
Yes again love surf
Tonemaster Blues Deluxe. Make it so! Please 🙂
god demo, guys...I think I might have to check this baby out!
Some tasty playingg
Surf's up! Would love to try out this series of amps!
My question is can you make a fender 68 custom reverb sound like it really does with technology i dont think i get it ill have to try one in the flesh
IS this Tone Master that much better then their Mustang GT200 version of the Deluxe Reverb ?
I notice on my tube delux my reverb would cut out I wonder if this not being tube the reverb won’t be so touchy
Doesn't sound bad, but it's the same price as an actual Deluxe Reverb (used, at least), so...why?
1. to offer a lighter alternative, 2. to offer a direct recording possibility, 3. to further explore new technology that might take over in the future. 4. because standing still is like dying.
And you probably won't have to worry about the issues to do with tub amps as much
Also, I think it's got a built in attenuator
Trumps tariffs?
@@gilh3947 isn't rereleasing something standing still?
I would like to see a new princeton chorus with red knobs...
So what do the 2 outputs on the clean and vibrato channel do ?
Is this loud enough to gig with without miking it up?
It’s every bit as loud as a tube Deluxe at full power. Too loud for most applications, in fact.
People complain about “digital” amps when they constantly are listening to music that is “digitally” reproduced. Logic? None.
And they put solid state pedals (essentially preamps) in front of their tubes and love them. As soon as they are actually in the preamp, they hate them.
@Luke Robinett Yes many do sound digital and sterile. Case in point: the Katana, which many people are comparing the price of to the Tone Master series. It makes me chuckle because the Katana sounds like a thin bedroom amp with stage ambition compared to this series.
@Luke Robinett Yes, those really take the cake lol.
Why do you have closed captions on an amp demo video?
Deftones
I would buy a tonemaster bassman 4x10
which strat exactly is that one?
A cool green one.
What happens if you jumper it?
Just needs a couple Paul Rivera mods😅
Good luck getting an amp like this serviced decades down the road. An amp like this is only as good as the last firmware update. Look what they did to mustang users with the fuse software. Marketing and making the company more money is all this is about. When it comes to amps, keep it simple. There’s a reason people use tube amps, hand wired, point to point…it’s called serviceability! If you get a solid state get one that’s simple in design and easy to repair. These modeling amps are fun but they won’t be around for your kids or their kids.
You got it.
Shortcuts all round. Won't last.
I am a Fender user but won't pay for their Execs' corporate jets. The hype and marketing budget is massive, when you buy anything USA made its a rip off. Particularly custom shop stuff, there are some real dogs.
My take is SS amps don't cut through the mix regardless of brand. There's just a lack of depth and harmonics.
Would love a Super
'59 bassman please and thank you.
great, just don't stop making the real ones. If you do, that'll be the day I stop playing guitar.
Good Amp in isolation, not a 100% like the original tonally. Fender should have priced this sub $500.
the dude on the right looks unimpressed when he tests out the pedals 15:00
Tweed Twin next?
I swear i seen an old version of this I just can't remember the name of it is bothering me 😬😬
I have the USA Deluxe but this is made in China hmmm gotta try.
How much does it weigh....
22 or 23 pounds.... very light.... great pine cabinet and the neodymium speaker
Price point is double what it should be for what you get.
Exactly!
Definitely. Digital power amps are so inexpensive. The profit margins on these must be huge!
How!??? How much would you sell it for if it had taken you 3 years in R&D not to mention the salary of all the engineers required!
@@josephbecerra9211 Let's acknowledge the most likely scenario, which is Fender leveraging their existing assets. What they did here was build a nice cabinet which is a clone of a traditional deluxe reverb cabinet. Great move in Fenders part since we already know this cabinet size and construction is part of what makes Fender amps sound great. Then, and here's where the savings comes in, they take the digital modeling tech for the Deluxe reverb part of the Mustang amp series and put it in here. Yes Im sure Fender made a few tweaks to optimize the sound of this digital model to the new cabinet and speaker, but no one is going to convince me that this was a solo project built from the ground up. That just doesn't make business sense.
Ha... no. This isn't a cheaply designed and built Fender Mustang..... huge difference... better technology inside..... much better speaker...... real pine built cabinet...... attenuator... speaker out for direct front of house or recording with two built in IRs that sound great..... and they paid engineers to design it for three years or R&D...
Weight?
Where is it made?
Edgar Mcbee China
Do a Tone master Excelsior!!!!! I dare you!!!
Why not include a headphone jack?
One solution: XLR plugged into interface, mute on, headphone out of computer or interface.
@Luke Robinett Yes it is more complicated. As for the effects loops, most of the people screaming for them don't actually need them. First, the classic Fender tube amps take effects very well, and in the cases where a wet/dry rig is required (stage/actual performance/studio work) then either multiple amps can be used or an effects loop can be added to the amp. Again, the people often screaming for them in comments are bedroom players who don't need this set up anyway. As for these amps, there are several demos of them with pedals and they take pedals as well as the vintage, no effects loop, original amps.
@Luke Robinett That is true. Especially knowing their audience, a little catering to the wants of all players would not have hurt them.
What tele was that?
Performer series strat and tele. Both awesome guitars. I have the tele. It's so good
@@mynamesjondowell thank you i might not be the biggest fan of the color / avalible colors though.. the sound and quality seems amazing otherwise. :) i will consider it.
If I have the money for a Tone Master ... I'm buying the tube version. TOO MUCH $$$ FENDER!!!!!!
Another missed opportunity to call the tremolo channel Tremolo instead of Vibrato.
Dave grohl has seen better days :( …
No voodoo without tubes, mojo vanishes, notice mostly in demanding passages with others drums, bass, eats volume, no sizzle.
Nope... have heard this amp with my friends band in rehearsal twice.... and it cuts through as well as his blackface vintage Super Reverb...... not lost in the mix at all.. loud enough to keep up with the full band in a small to medium room.
@@superbford a solid state deluxe, 22w,cuts through like a Super? A tube dlr can't keep up with a super. Transistors lack dynamic range that's just the truth of it and that's why tube sound so much better
But solid state 20 watts is not very loud. Remember your childhood record player that's solid-state 20 watts and that's not competing with a super Reverb imo
@@superbford I just watched a fender demo there isn't a single tube in the amp so there is no spring driven Reverb there's no tube driven or tube driven tremolo or Reverb and there are no tube driven preamp stages it's all transistors it may sound good in a quiet demo but I doubt it's going to cut it in a bar I would say listen to someone else's first try someone else's I wouldn't be the first to buy this product
@@comicblueswithjonygitar36 I believe, as said in a NAMM interview on another channel, its 100w class D. But is set to match the volume of a 22w tube version.
@Luke Robinett boomers just booming I guess 🤷♂️
I love classic Fender guitars and amps... but the "power attenuator" on a digital amp is just pure SMH - it's just a master volume knob. $900 ($1,000 after tax and shipping) for this solid state copy!?! You can buy a genuine all tube deluxe reverb right now off Reverb for $800 shipped and order a real attenuator like Weber or similar for $100. So $900 total for an authentic tube Deluxe Reverb with a real volume attenuator all for $100 LESS than getting this solid state version desperately trying to replicate the real thing . If you're an actual gigging musician and need weight savings (a tube deluxe reverb isn't that heavy of an amp in the first place btw) and don't mind sacrificing digital for tubes, you'd go Kemper. Does not compute.
The important thing you don't understand is that to develop a modeling amp that are sophisticated as those, it takes a lot of R&D... Developing a regular tube amp is easy since the technology has no more secrets since WW2... You put transformers, choke, tubes, resistors, capacitors in a certain order then "there it is" ! In a modeling approach, it takes a lot of computing science, a shit load of "mathematics" (yes yes, I know) and high level applied scientists. It cost a shit load of money to bring such a product to maturity in a lab, then in a totally new line of assembly oriented into electronics... It's a huge investment that will pay off after years of producing these things.
@@marsattacks7071 Somehow Zoom had affordable modeling amps out the gate 20 years ago - sure we're talking about a much more sophisticated modeling processor today than then obviously... but when you're a giant company like Fender, you generally eat the R&D costs the first couple years, not pass it on to the consumer. This is just a cash grab in my mind, trying to capture some of the $ that's increasingly going towards Kemper, Helix, etc.
@@Bryan-fl6fh Bryan, 2 years payback isn't real for any projects. Sometimes, you have to built an extension to your plant, create a new assembly line, hire different kind of workers, buy very expensive top notch equipment... We just don't know the extent of this new line of equipment. There is one thing I believe, if it's an initial big down payment for Fender, the next products (modeling amps, new generation, etc) will cost less.
The sad (really sad) thing about modeling amps is that they are becoming near future obsolete amps because of a new powerful processor or what have you.... It's now a new ball game I don't like !