DreamWorks literally COPIED Pixar

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  • Опубліковано 21 кві 2024
  • Decisions certain companies make turns out to influence the ones others make... who knew!
    Shout out to Owen (Cubachoo1 on Roblox). He was an 8/100 actor that I found on craigslist.
    Okay but seriously, who's gonna tell DreamWorks that they straight up stole a movie on accident? Maybe we should talk to Caleb first... maybe one day.
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  • @noobmasterruben5167
    @noobmasterruben5167 23 дні тому +249

    Mei and her mom had more personality than Ruby and her grandma

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +32

      lowkey... yup.
      highkey... yup.

    • @viviennemorgan7217
      @viviennemorgan7217 12 днів тому +9

      yep agreed and ming apologizes to meilin, meilin has more personality and Dreams about boys with her friends, while ruby has no personality and friends.

    • @_chloe5
      @_chloe5 День тому +1

      I’ve never even watched the teenage kraken. But i think it is literally the same movie as turning red, which is one of my fav movies.

  • @josephmaller592
    @josephmaller592 23 дні тому +296

    DreamWorks did not just copy Turning red. They also copy Little Mermaid 2. I’m not joking.

    • @Cody-bn2cc
      @Cody-bn2cc 23 дні тому +53

      And luca in a way

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  23 дні тому +47

      I never even thought about this lol. Probably cuz I haven’t seen it but it proves the point even more!

    • @arrowpictures2844
      @arrowpictures2844 22 дні тому +14

      @@thejackcarlinRuby Gillman was also in production way longer than Turning Red.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +9

      Source?

    • @arrowpictures2844
      @arrowpictures2844 22 дні тому +9

      @@thejackcarlin It was originally titled as Meet the Gillman’s in 2021, and some production art goes back to 2017.

  • @lillordakira9752
    @lillordakira9752 22 дні тому +93

    Nearly every DreamWorks films has copied Pixar and Disney since the beginning.
    Boss baby feels like Toy Story written by family guy writers making their 1st PG movie.

    • @carlosmattessich3883
      @carlosmattessich3883 14 днів тому +3

      Yeah, I can see a lot of Stewie energy in the baby

    • @viviennemorgan7217
      @viviennemorgan7217 12 днів тому +3

      more like Boss baby copies family guy's stewie, well tim can understand his brother, but his parents can't, but everyone can understand stewie in family guy

  • @Princess_of_cute
    @Princess_of_cute 23 дні тому +83

    My mom likes Ruby Gillman more, because she's more tame than Mei, but I adore Mei because of her quirks. She is so typical for her age, someone I wish I could have been at that age. So confident, happy, loud, awkward. I love her so much, and that is already without taking the panda into consideration.
    Edit: I still do like Ruby Gillman, but the best thing is Chelsea to be quite honest!

  • @Kaylee_Creates
    @Kaylee_Creates 22 дні тому +96

    What I love about major film companies is that when one company releases a really good film (Puss n Boots for example) everyone is like “omg they are the next best thing, they are the greatest company” and then release something like Teenage Kraken. Every company does this and it’s hilarious. Also great video your really underrated!

  • @DanielAnimationsMemes
    @DanielAnimationsMemes 23 дні тому +93

    Ants and A bug life left the chat

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  23 дні тому +20

      Well you should note that the primary different is that those were full on BUILT to compete. Plus, they convey different themes if I remember correctly and follow different plots. This on the other hand is 2 different movies that are spread out just enough to make it kinda weird…

    • @ianmarchese9557
      @ianmarchese9557 20 днів тому +2

      Finding Nemo and Shark Tale:

    • @Hamborger-wd5jg
      @Hamborger-wd5jg 19 днів тому +1

      @@thejackcarlin im also pretty sure that antz came about a month before a bugs life

    • @Hamborger-wd5jg
      @Hamborger-wd5jg 17 днів тому +1

      @@yohanesventurioananto2382 never thought of that one

    • @die2infinity101
      @die2infinity101 15 днів тому +2

      ​@@yohanesventurioananto2382
      Ratatouille: rat becomes chief
      Flushed away: rat saves a city in the sewer
      One's fighting the HR department and the other is fighting french frogs
      Explain to me how they are the same

  • @coachcherokee1488
    @coachcherokee1488 19 днів тому +25

    On an unrelated note I have noticed a pattern with American animation studios this decade:
    2020:Pixar’s year.
    2021:Disney’s year.
    2022:
    DreamWorks’s year.
    2023:Sony’s year.
    2024:Pixar’s year.
    It helps that Zootopia 2 is coming in 2025

    • @LogersAndMogers
      @LogersAndMogers 14 днів тому +1

      Oh god furries are gonna have a field day with this one.

    • @PugBerry1
      @PugBerry1 7 днів тому +2

      @@LogersAndMogers i love zootopia and im not a furry

  • @keshiaanders6452
    @keshiaanders6452 23 дні тому +27

    "Ruby Gillman" also borrows elements of "The Little Mermaid" (especially since Chelsea looks like the traditional Ariel & this movie was released the same year as the live-action remake), and someone pointed out that it also borrow elements of "Carmilla."
    *Replace vampires with krakens & merfolk.
    *The main villain tricks main character into becoming friends with them so they can get something that'll make them stronger.
    *Villain goes under a false identity, and their true selves turn out to be a much older & bigger threat.
    Of course the major differences between "Ruby" & "Carmilla" is tone of the relationships. In "Carmilla" there are heavy lesbian undertones because Marcilla/Carmilla is a vampire that only targets women as her victims;
    While in "Ruby," Chelsea/Narissa was just gaslighting the next ruler of the Kraken kingdom to hand over Posidon's triton to her.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +1

      That's a good point! I never thought about The Little Mermaid when considering it, but I can only imagine that the similarities are there too. Thanks for pointing this out.

  • @maxelmslester
    @maxelmslester 17 днів тому +16

    I agree with you. I never liked Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken. I knew it was a copy of Turning Red but I didn’t realise it was also a copy of Luca. Sure they’re both underwater movies but they were some similarities I didn’t notice until now. Great video by the way.
    What makes this even worse is that Luca and Turning Red are both one of my favourite Pixar movies, and here’s a message to DreamWorks. To quote Mr. Krabs: “I trusted you. And you gave me this.

  • @coachcherokee1488
    @coachcherokee1488 20 днів тому +16

    It’s been going on since 1998:
    A Bugs Life vs Antz
    Ratatouille vs Turbo
    Toy Story 4 vs How to Train your Dragon the Hidden World
    Inside Out vs Orion and the Dark
    Cars3 vs Kung fu panda 4
    All of these end up with the Pixar version being better. Pixar have a spark that DreamWorks simply don’t have.

    • @jeremiahhester6408
      @jeremiahhester6408 20 днів тому +2

      Antz came out first and is far better than A Bug's Life. HTTYD3 Came out Before Toy Story 4 also.

    • @noobmasterruben5167
      @noobmasterruben5167 14 днів тому

      Orion and the Dark had the potential to be good movie but nope, instead it became this weird hodgepodge that fumbled its own premise

    • @guloki
      @guloki 13 днів тому

      why Cars 3 and Kung Fu Panda 4?

    • @noobmasterruben5167
      @noobmasterruben5167 12 днів тому

      @@guloki I guess they both have a passing the torch plot point

  • @missplayer30
    @missplayer30 23 дні тому +23

    I always see Ruby Gillman as the Dreamworks *equivalent* of Luca. They've been doing this since Antz and Bugs Life. Now they're doing it again recently with Wild Robot and Wall-E.
    So far we have
    A Bug's Life VS Antz
    Monster Inc. vs Orion and The Dark
    Finding Nemo vs Shark Tales
    The Incredibles vs Megamind
    Cars vs Turbo
    Ratatouille vs Flushed Away
    Wall-E vs The Wild Robot
    The Good Dinosaur vs The Croods
    Brave vs How to Train your dragon
    Luca vs Ruby Gillman
    Hercules vs Sindbad
    Mulan vs Kung Fu panda
    Emperor New Groove vs Road to El Dorado
    Chicken Little vs Chicken Run
    Meet the Robinson vs Mr Peabody and Sherman
    Frozen vs Rise of The Guardians
    Zootopia vs The Bad Guys
    Wish vs Puss in Boot: The Last Wish
    And I feel like Inside Out vs Me And My Shadow, Soul vs B.O.O, King of the Elves vs Trolls and Toy Story vs Alma would have been a possibility had those movies been released.

    • @Luminous-722
      @Luminous-722 22 дні тому +7

      Just letting you know a lot of these dreamworks films did come out before the Pixar/disney film you compare them too. Also don’t compare the masterpiece that is Puss in Boots: The Last Wish to Wish because they both focus on a wish.

    • @Simbala-bq5vy
      @Simbala-bq5vy 22 дні тому +3

      ​@@Luminous-722I mean that would mean that every movie that is about a wish is a copy of The last/Wish

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +6

      You've gotta think about the difference between equivalent and similar (oh god 4th grade math memories).
      The Incredibles and Megamind are yes, similar, because they're both superhero movies, yet the characters are different, the plots are different, they're actively produced at different times, characters follow different arcs, etc. Yes there are similarities, but just because they have some similar concepts it doesn't mean that they're equivalent.
      I understand what your saying, but what I talk about in this video is how Teenage Kraken and Turning Red ARE very similar in that their themes, plot, characters, and many different details are all the same.
      And also, if Wall-E was truly similar to The Wild Robot, people would've been blaming Wall-E for being similar to the book. So we'll see I guess.

    • @Simbala-bq5vy
      @Simbala-bq5vy 22 дні тому +1

      @@thejackcarlin Also puss in boots the last Wish can't be a rip off to disneys Wish or the other way because the last wish came end of 2022 and Wish came in November 2023

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +1

      @@Simbala-bq5vy Precisely! The closer movies are in production, the harder it is to not only make the movie, but the harder it is to actually get away with it.

  • @ravensghost2008
    @ravensghost2008 2 дні тому +6

    What annoys me most about Teenage Kraken is how everyone thinks she’s human when she is. _Literally_ . *Blue.*

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  2 дні тому +3

      NO!!! She's CaNadIan!!!

    • @ravensghost2008
      @ravensghost2008 2 дні тому +1

      @@thejackcarlin lmao ofc
      I always wondered why justin beiber is blue

  • @GasterTheMagician
    @GasterTheMagician 23 дні тому +48

    if i had a nickle every time that dreamworks coppied pixar i would have 2 nickles

    • @64KOs
      @64KOs 23 дні тому +6

      I assume the other nickel is for ants and a bug’s life

    • @traviscunningham7062
      @traviscunningham7062 23 дні тому

      Shark Tale and Finding Nemo?

    • @arshambehruz5883
      @arshambehruz5883 23 дні тому +8

      @@traviscunningham7062Other than both being about fish, those movies have nothing in common.

    • @GasterTheMagician
      @GasterTheMagician 22 дні тому +1

      @@traviscunningham7062 both are way diffrent storys its not a copy

    • @GasterTheMagician
      @GasterTheMagician 22 дні тому

      @@64KOs yeah

  • @albatross4920
    @albatross4920 12 днів тому +4

    Pixar: Turning Red
    DreamWorks: Turning Red, but blue

  • @RedK57265
    @RedK57265 22 дні тому +10

    An unrelated note if Inside Out 2 and Elio actually ends up being good, Pixar might be picking itself back up
    For Dreamworks I’m hoping Wild Robot is good, it sucks that Kung Fu Panda 4 wasn’t great

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +3

      All it takes is one banger and a studio is back in the game!
      Inside Out 2 is the movie to strike with... hoping for the best!

    • @AllenTheAnimator004
      @AllenTheAnimator004 22 дні тому +2

      Pixar could theoretically rise...but I don't know about Disney themselves,they literally lost all of their trust after Wish

    • @RedK57265
      @RedK57265 22 дні тому +1

      @@AllenTheAnimator004 Yeah Disney itself may not for a while at least unless Moana 2 or Zootopia 2 end up being good

  • @JeremyMasterson938
    @JeremyMasterson938 22 дні тому +9

    Quite frankly, DreamWorks should be embarrassed for copying Pixar’s homework. That’s the biggest F that they deserve.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому

      Do remember that these movies were in production at the same time. Nobody copied anyone, but it's a weird coincidence.
      5:21

  • @DuckShooter98
    @DuckShooter98 22 дні тому +8

    A company has to be pretty low on idea when they copy Turning Red💀

  • @annacalifornia4681
    @annacalifornia4681 22 дні тому +9

    Not to mention the style of the animation and how the characters look are similar.

    • @MilevProjects
      @MilevProjects 21 день тому +5

      100% facts. I drew the thumbnail for this video and drawing them both on the same frame felt like I could just swap their colors and they’d look exactly the same. Mouth shape, eye shape, face shape, everything basically the same.

    • @annacalifornia4681
      @annacalifornia4681 21 день тому +2

      @@MilevProjects Exactly. Something tells me its not just an coincidence. Its plain copying.

  • @xellotath863
    @xellotath863 20 днів тому +6

    Sounds like both are just extremely formulaic (doesn't mean automatically bad mind you).

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 10 днів тому +1

      Turning Red at least took risks and wasn’t afraid to tackle mature topics in a way that was still suitable for kids (the “controversy” over it was quite ridiculous and overblown).
      Ruby just felt like a safe direct to DVD or a pilot attempt at a TV show.

  • @yinyangyt8749
    @yinyangyt8749 13 днів тому +5

    I honestly like both movies but I feel like Turning Red was more memorable and the message was more clear. And hey. Technically Ruby Gilman didn’t copy Turning Red since they started production one year before Turning Red. It was a coincidence that both movies with the same message released one year and then another

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  13 днів тому +3

      They were both pretty solid, and I do also agree that Turning Red had a much stronger everything in general.

  • @Broskie_Bli
    @Broskie_Bli 18 днів тому +4

    FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT! I thought I was the only one who noticed!!

  • @emilyhopemeechem4183
    @emilyhopemeechem4183 17 днів тому +8

    Being both or more similar movie don’t exactly mean they’re ripoffs, but they can have some different themes too!
    For example: Turning Red is land based and the protagonist is based on a fluffy mammal
    Meanwhile, Teenage Kracken is sea based and the protagonist is based on a sea creature

    • @lucasw1348
      @lucasw1348 8 днів тому

      Are you fucking serious?

    • @emilyhopemeechem4183
      @emilyhopemeechem4183 8 днів тому

      @@lucasw1348 yes i am

    • @lucasw1348
      @lucasw1348 8 днів тому

      @@emilyhopemeechem4183 Note that I made this comment before I found out that Ruby was in production first than turning red so...

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  8 днів тому

      You win the funniest reply award lol. That notification popping up on a teenage kraken video was the funniest thing i've ever seen lol

    • @lucasw1348
      @lucasw1348 8 днів тому

      @@thejackcarlin Wait, me?

  • @gatewoodanimations9753
    @gatewoodanimations9753 13 днів тому +2

    Dreamworks has been doing this in some way ever since their first movie because Katzenberg was salty that he wasn’t aloud to make Toy Story edgy lmao

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  13 днів тому +1

      Edgy toy story woulda been pretty fire tho

  • @sebastianshook6771
    @sebastianshook6771 21 день тому +15

    The Real Irony Is That Turning Red Feels More Like A DreamWorks Movie Than Ruby Gillman, An Actual DreamWorks Movie.

  • @RB01.10
    @RB01.10 10 днів тому +2

    The sad thing is that Ruby Gillman had so much potential (there was scrapped plot lines on TV Tropes that I feel would’ve massively improved the film) and after the huge success of Dreamworks’ two movies before it (Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2) everyone, myself included believed Dreamworks was going to overtake Disney (and Pixar) as being in better shape as they had two flops the previous year. We all thought Ruby would be the hit and Elemental would be flop, only to find out the exact opposite happened.
    What didn’t help either is according to TV Tropes is that the pitch for Ruby began in around 2015 but production didn’t begin until around 2020 only for COVID to disrupt production again. The film also was supposed to have Paul Tibbitt (known for being involved in SpongeBob) attached. Around August 2021 he was replaced by Kirk DeMicco, shortly after the release of DeMicco's previous film Vivo, when DreamWorks Animation wanted the project to take a different direction with 18 months left for completion with it finally being approximately finished in March 2023.
    PS Wow, congrats at how many views this video has. I think this is your most viewed video yet? It appears to be miles ahead of your other videos (which definitely deserve more views as is, I find your videos quite funny, entertaining, and overall well made).

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  9 днів тому +1

      I do fully believe that each movie has potential. Like some movies have such dumb concepts yet still end up working somehow. One good example is the recent Wonka movie. I absolutely LOVE that movie. But on paper it's the stupidest thing ever. A Willy Wonka franchise addon except now we add in a cartel. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of... IM IN.
      Also, I find the bit that the movie was directed by Kirk DeMicco super funny.
      For Turning Red, Domee Shi had a deep personal connection to the character she was helping portray. It really just felt fitting to have a female director for a movie like Turning Red.
      On the other hand, DreamWork's similar project was made by some dude named Kirk. I just thought it was super funny where compared. I'm not saying one director is better than the other, it's just that Domee really seemed to fit her project more lol.

  • @commenter5465
    @commenter5465 20 днів тому +4

    "Son of a mustache"-Don Carlton
    5:01

  • @JoltJackelope
    @JoltJackelope 23 дні тому +8

    This isn’t anything new, Dreamworks steals Ideas from Disney All the time. It’s kinda their thing 🤷‍♀️

    • @Ozzbim
      @Ozzbim 23 дні тому

      ruby gillman was thought out years before turning red

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +2

      @Ozzbim
      Na, they were around the same time.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +1

      Sometimes it's inspiration, sometimes it's just coincidence, and sometimes it is stealing. At the end of the day, if the movie's good and doesn't feel like a blatant rip off, then who cares?

    • @Ozzbim
      @Ozzbim 22 дні тому

      @@thejackcarlin ya think dreamworks knew turning red was concieved then? they're not disney/pixar insiders. they dont always know what's going on behind the scenes

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому

      @Ozzbim that bit at the end of the video was satire. That being said, if a company is able in anyway to get that info, I have no doubt that they’ll take advantage of it. That’s how capitalism works: competition.

  • @___Kanna___359
    @___Kanna___359 21 день тому +6

    ERM ACTUALLY
    ☝🤓
    They did NOT start production at the same time,
    turning red being developed/announced in as FAR BACK AS 2018 (the idea first being pitched in 2017, though) And coming out in 2022:
    Luca Being announced/first in production in 2020 and coming out in 2021:
    And ruby gillman: teenage kraken being released publicly in june of 2023, with only the cast being announced in 2023. Only other info I could find was that the IDEA of a kraken family was pitched in 2016, later transfering to dreamworks, and it was announced with a new title on march 16th 2023.
    SO..
    Its possible that 'ruby gillman teenage kraken' was in production before turning red and luca, but with Both of the movies being announced before them and soon after being RELEASED before them; its possible they tweaked the actual movie quite a lot, taking and taking elements from each of the other 2 movies, since they were doing SO WELL.
    Not quite sure, just wanted to share some info! ^^
    Edit: Switched up my wording a bit to make more sense, lol

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  21 день тому +1

      Honestly thanks for looking into this stuff. It's really hard to tell when things start production, and better yet, what that actually means.
      Like does the idea just come into existence?
      Does planning start?
      Plus if it starts too early, then by the time the movie comes out, then is it even similar to what was planned in the first place?
      It's a really tough discussion. I just used the estimate that the movies took about 4 years to make start to finish.
      That's really why I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean anything though. It's just kinda funny that the movies are that similar.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  21 день тому +1

      Also yes, they didn't start at the same time, but I see no possible way that they weren't at least being worked on at the same time.

    • @___Kanna___359
      @___Kanna___359 21 день тому

      @@thejackcarlin lol that was fast.
      also Im glad ye found my comment, since I wanted to explain this stuff
      I also get that they probably were worked on at the same time, I just wanted to let people know XD

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  21 день тому +1

      Yeah I like to respond whenever I see it, but I happen to be at my computer rn so it works out.
      Feel free to share some more anytime. There's always more to say about any topic so any other stuff added is pretty rad.

  • @SiSoz
    @SiSoz 22 дні тому +24

    As a die hard fan of turning red
    I REALLY WANTED TO LIKE GILLMAN
    I really did...
    But like..
    The trailers spoiling the plot and the mediocre dynamics ruby has with others just didn't cut it for me 😑😐

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +3

      Yet another reason to avoid trailers...
      I get you tho. I kinda judged the movie really early on simply because of the awful title, but I was a little surprised at the quality, but it wasn't because it was great, it's because it wasn't as bad as I expected.

    • @RackednStackeddd
      @RackednStackeddd 17 днів тому +6

      Ngl I kinda hated Ruby's friends the most. I don't know what it is but they just seem to be trying way to hard to be quirky and weird while Mei's friends just find joy in doing cringey things. Idk they just come off as more like an actual group of friends in middle school

  • @mrbeeboy1906
    @mrbeeboy1906 17 днів тому +4

    Nah nice video, easily subscribed. Like quality for such a small channel. Keep up the good work!

  • @RedK57265
    @RedK57265 23 дні тому +7

    I think Turning Red is underrated despite its flaws
    This film on the other is probably Dreamworks worst film in a while it’s unfortunate Dreamworks films after this didn’t get better

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +3

      I do think that the name itself kinda dragged it down. I mean… Teenage Kraken??? The heck were you thinking? Just say Turning Kraken or someth- wait

    • @RedK57265
      @RedK57265 22 дні тому +4

      @@thejackcarlinExactly it’s name was kinda bad I actually prefer the original name “Meet The Gillmans”, on another note the trailer for Gillman gave away everything, Turning Red’s trailer didn’t give away a lot aside from the basics

  • @kayleee4065
    @kayleee4065 21 день тому +3

    I felt the same watching Ruby 😅 glad I'm not the only one who noticed

  • @marcopikachujibanyanramos
    @marcopikachujibanyanramos 19 днів тому +3

    I asked my sister which which was better RGTK and Turning Red to which she immediately responded after watching both movies that that RGTK copied Turning Red

  • @altrocket1152
    @altrocket1152 24 дні тому +9

    But blue

  • @N_a_a_u_p
    @N_a_a_u_p 17 днів тому +2

    Bro is so underated

  • @AmicaSecret
    @AmicaSecret 22 дні тому +6

    I noticed they are similar too. But I enjoyed Ruby gillman more then Red

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +2

      They both super similar yet somehow totally different feeling. It's okay to like more than the other!

    • @JuniorGustabo
      @JuniorGustabo 19 днів тому +1

      It would be interesting to see a series based on the movie Ruby Gillman.

  • @donomacandolita5004
    @donomacandolita5004 17 днів тому +2

    Finally someone pointed it out

  • @ShockedTaiLung
    @ShockedTaiLung 17 днів тому +2

    Did not realize there was THAT many

  • @TheSuperMarioBrosMovieFan2003
    @TheSuperMarioBrosMovieFan2003 23 дні тому +10

    It’s more similar to Luca

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  23 дні тому +6

      Well I found far more similarities for turning red. I’m not sure if you watched the whole video but I also compare it to Luca so yeah 👍

    • @TheSuperMarioBrosMovieFan2003
      @TheSuperMarioBrosMovieFan2003 23 дні тому +4

      @@thejackcarlin I thought so since they are sea monsters

  • @Ozzbim
    @Ozzbim 23 дні тому +12

    The concept for Ruby Gillman was thought out LITERAL YEARS before Turning Red.

    • @BlueStarEdits2021
      @BlueStarEdits2021 22 дні тому +2

      He says that near the end of the video

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +3

      I love you for this thank you for actually watching the video 🙏

    • @BlueStarEdits2021
      @BlueStarEdits2021 22 дні тому +1

      @@thejackcarlin You're welcome! I thought the same thing when I watched Ruby Gillman.

  • @Amabamanotalabama
    @Amabamanotalabama 22 дні тому +4

    this guy is cool asf how doesnt he have 1mil already?

  • @forrestdupre87
    @forrestdupre87 23 дні тому +5

    This wouldn’t be the first time

  • @pixcraft1995
    @pixcraft1995 24 дні тому +8

    I swear in the intro you were both just trying not laugh also good luck escaping dreamworks hopefully they dont force you to work on megamind 3: return of titan

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому

      You have no idea how many takes it took lmao

  • @gryficowa
    @gryficowa 11 днів тому +2

    They started by copying Disney, so it doesn't shock anyone

  • @crystallotus3422
    @crystallotus3422 23 дні тому +2

    Do people not realize how long it takes to animate a movie? Let alone a 3D one? Sure they’re similar but there’s no conceivable way that Dreamworks could, think of a new plot, animate a whole 60min+ movie, find voice actors, and market the thing in a few months

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  23 дні тому

      Exactly what I’m saying! I’ve seen a lot of comments saying one thing or the other but I straight up say that these movies are in production at the same time so they likely didn’t copy each other. I might make a video about it lol

  • @jacobyearout9654
    @jacobyearout9654 23 дні тому +5

    When i first watched Ruby gilman after 20 minutes, i said okay this is just a ripoff of turning red, one of my favorite pixar movies

  • @chichou7
    @chichou7 3 дні тому +1

    the resemblance is uncanny

  • @sydfrog_
    @sydfrog_ 23 дні тому +5

    Underrated asf. good work!

  • @totalimage9971
    @totalimage9971 22 дні тому +10

    This is why I FREAKING hate Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken!!!

  • @dylanhudec979
    @dylanhudec979 18 днів тому +3

    Not ganna lie turning red is not even that bad of a movie

  • @yellowhydra8973
    @yellowhydra8973 19 днів тому +3

    Im mot gonna lie i thought based on the trailers i thought teenage kraken the humans were all fish people they were drawn so weird

  • @MugmanTheRealMug
    @MugmanTheRealMug 22 дні тому +14

    Either way, both were bad.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +4

      To each their own!

    • @fromthefuturefrenchi
      @fromthefuturefrenchi 13 днів тому +3

      There not both bad, turning red focuses on teen girls going through a fase.Even Google who any other thing pointed towards it said that it's too realistic

    • @MugmanTheRealMug
      @MugmanTheRealMug 13 днів тому

      @@fromthefuturefrenchi mb. What I meant to say they were both terrible

    • @fa_mu1anx
      @fa_mu1anx 2 дні тому

      ⁠@@MugmanTheRealMug I feel like their both more ridiculous and goofy then terrible, one is a literal fish and the other turns into a red panda.

  • @brandirichardson4111
    @brandirichardson4111 23 дні тому +4

    See this is what I am trying to say they did copy Pixar and disney

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +1

      Kinda.... they were in production at the same time, therefore, they didn't really copy each other, they were just eerily similar.

  • @JR1ckDoodles
    @JR1ckDoodles 22 дні тому +4

    As much as i love to say this, Shark Tale is a million times better than Ruby Gillman

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 10 днів тому

      You know I kind of agree with that statement.
      Shark Tale isn’t really a good movie anyway looking back (I do have a soft spot for it as I watched it a lot as a kid) but at least I can have fun with it.
      Ruby is just boring and forgettable for the most part. IMO that’s far worse ; a bland and forgettable movie over a bad yet entertaining film.

  • @thescifyguy1486
    @thescifyguy1486 24 дні тому +2

    What are your thoughts on current animation studio collapse

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  23 дні тому +3

      Well... I don't think they're really collapsing.
      If a studio releases a movie, and it's bad, the immediate reaction is "Ope, this studio fell off!"
      But the instant a good movie is made, viewers are often like "Ope, this studio is back baby! Can't go back now!"
      This exact scenario was seen in 2011-2013. Pixar released Cars 2, Brave, and Monsters University all in a row. Although I think they're all pretty good movies, it didn't compare to their previous streak. That being said, the next year they made Inside Out which is often seen as one of the best Pixar movies.
      Look at DreamWorks. Last year, they released Puss in Boots which essentially revived the studio. Before that, there hadn't been a revival since 2019's Httyd the hidden world. That being said, the stuff between wasn't bad either. There was The Bad Guys and.... well that's about it.
      It's not a collapse of animation studios, it's the period of waiting for something great.
      Also Pixar only makes one movie a year so they end up technically making less money than say Dreamworks which makes 2 per year which end up either being sequels or random unadvertised stuff.

    • @thescifyguy1486
      @thescifyguy1486 23 дні тому

      @@thejackcarlin fair enough

  • @MayaMayo710
    @MayaMayo710 20 годин тому

    DreamWorks isn’t failing.. they made a masterpiece.
    Shrek✨

  • @PuppetPAWS984
    @PuppetPAWS984 15 днів тому +1

    HOW IS THIS NOT POPULAR

  • @deenadallas2802
    @deenadallas2802 21 день тому +2

    To be honest, even though I actually enjoyed "Trolls Band Together" very much, I feel like the middle section of the movie copied "Vivo," Sony Pictures Animation's first ever animated musical. Let me tell you why.
    Not only did Dreamworks name Camila Cabello's character, Viva (which is also Spanish for life), but she also went through a similar character arc the same way the titular kinkajou from "Vivo" did. After reuniting with her sister, Poppy after years of being separated, Poppy says she has to leave with Branch and his brothers to go to Mount Rageous, save Floyd, and she offers Viva to come with her. But Viva does not take this well because she's afraid of leaving her home at the abandoned Bergen golf course, and she doesn't want Poppy to leave her again, so she tries to pursuade her into staying with her forever, but this attempt doesn't really go well until Poppy leaves her memory book on purpose so Viva could see it. Then Viva realizes the error of her ways once she meets Bridget and Gristle, and she comes with them to help Poppy, Branch, and the others take down Velvet and Veneer.
    This feels so similar to "Vivo" because in the beginning of the movie, Andrés is so excited to go to Miami to see Marta Sandoval (his long-lost love) again so he could show her the song that he's written for her, but Vivo does not take this well because he's afraid of leaving his home in Havana, and that's because he spent most of his life there playing music with Andrés, but right after he comes to his senses and realizes that Andrés does need that trip, tragedy comes, so Vivo decides to go to Miami to bring Andrés' song to Marta himself (then he meets Gabi along the way).
    I feel like Dreamworks also copied Sony because they did a similar character arc for Viva, but at least they did it differently.
    Am I the only one who noticed this?

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  21 день тому

      I haven’t seen this trolls movie for a few years now but the main thing is really this: if you like it, then it doesn’t matter that any of it copied anything. I just made this video to point out a similar overall plot along with themes.
      Take MacBeth for example. MANY pieces of media have copied arcs very directly except in this case it works as a reference. The characters copying Macbeth are experiencing the same things as Macbeth himself.
      It’s okay to copy media if it actually adds to a characters arc or at least changes the plot.
      Nice observation too that looks solid.

    • @deenadallas2802
      @deenadallas2802 21 день тому

      ​@@thejackcarlin Thank you.

  • @itsscorfanoceda
    @itsscorfanoceda 3 дні тому

    i can't believe dreamworks basically copied four different movies: luca, turning red, the little mermaid, and the princess diaries

  • @floofikite6524
    @floofikite6524 16 днів тому +1

    But......
    Wasn't Teenage Kraken in production before Turning Red...???

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 10 днів тому

      I thunk it was.
      If I recall correctly, Ruby Gillman was pitched in 2015 and Turning Red was pitched in 2017.

  • @MarvCarlin
    @MarvCarlin 19 днів тому +2

    Good video. Gotta watch both, side by side, now.

  • @jennelledohan7414
    @jennelledohan7414 2 дні тому

    I respect your opinion on Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken! 😁👍

  • @TheBabyInYellow-xo6fp
    @TheBabyInYellow-xo6fp 22 дні тому +4

    Lol this video is great, you deserve more subs

  • @PATOfThePAT
    @PATOfThePAT 14 днів тому +1

    I feel like Dreamwork went downhill after Puss In Boots 2.

  • @Ratchetzillastudios
    @Ratchetzillastudios 2 дні тому

    Remember, when everyone was like dreamWorks will surpass Disney because of Puss in boots oh boy, they were wrong….

  • @ShroomyMcbloomy
    @ShroomyMcbloomy 4 дні тому

    Just because you use a similar ideas and characters from another movie doesn't mean you're copying them. Ruby Gillman and Turning Red may be similar, but they both have many ideas that have been used countless times, like an overprotective mom and someone who really wants to do something and has to figure out how to do it because they weren't allowed to by their parents. Both of these movies use common ideas that have been reused many times, so I don't think they're copying each other, or any other movie. They just happen to be very similar.

  • @unicornpupart
    @unicornpupart 22 дні тому +2

    YOU HAVE LESS SUBS THAN ME
    U GOT GOOD EDITING AND VOICE AND SKIT
    IM SUBBING INSTANTLY YOU'RE AWESOME!!

  • @garrettscott6948
    @garrettscott6948 22 дні тому +3

    DreamWorks has way more sequels than Pixar

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +1

      Totally! I'm pretty sure they release 1 at least every year. Whether it be trolls, boss baby, croods 18, or some other random bs.

    • @Ratchetzillastudios
      @Ratchetzillastudios 2 дні тому

      Do not bring up boss baby 2 to me

  • @creopexcreations9738
    @creopexcreations9738 День тому +1

    Wow…
    This is literally the definition of copying and pasting.

  • @LukeDougherty1003
    @LukeDougherty1003 14 днів тому

    Yeah, when I saw Ruby Gillman in theaters, I found a lot of similarities between it and Turning Red. And while I think Ruby Gillman is great, I do prefer Turning Red (and Luca) over it (and I have currently seen Turning Red 12 times).

  • @RootTheLucario
    @RootTheLucario 3 дні тому

    I remember the days when they didn’t copy disney

  • @sagittariusneptune9330
    @sagittariusneptune9330 4 дні тому

    You all don't know this but Dreamworks and Pixar had this whole copy war since their beginnings. Some of the people who worked on Pixar/Disney originally went to work with Dreamworks animators come and go to studio all the time now ideas this isn't anything new. Heres the movie copy line up.
    Antz=Bug Life, pathetic ant main character who loves princess ant, and deals with bullies above them.
    Shrek=Monster. Inc, monster renowed for their roars, then monster loves a female character, with a wise cracking sidekick.
    Shark Tale=Finding Nemo, a fish whose reminded of their lowlife, and vegetarian sharks.
    Flushed Away=Ratatolie, rats downed in a sewer wanting a higher life for themselves, while a fat rat takes advantage of them.
    Turbo=Cars, racers wanting to win a champion cup but stuck in their miserable small town lives.
    my personal favorite
    How to train your dragon=Brave, both northern european teenagers who disagree with their culture norms, conflicts with their dominate parent, and end up fighting a giant monster at the end Red Death/Mordew.
    Besides theres times Pixar copies other movies the Good Dinosaur from Land Before time, young longneck dino losing their parents, seeing their ghosts, making friends with T-rexes etc.
    Toy story 3 takes heavily from Brave Little Toaster, both beloved items from their grown up owners leaving them, ended up in facilities that constantly remind them less of what they are, and an antagonist(Air conditioner/Lotzo) that has a mental breakdown while taking it out on the heroes, both heroes end up in a junkyard and reunited with their owners.
    Other animated movies that take from others
    Thief and the Cobbler/Aladdin, Rescuers down under/Fievel goes west, and Titan A.E/Treasure Planet just to name a few.

  • @mebhisntatownie
    @mebhisntatownie 18 днів тому +2

    both turning red and ruby gillman teenage kraken are both somewhat sexist only ruby gillman is not as bad because it represents nature (like the female black widow is bigger then the male) and turning red represents well... a girls period!

  • @danieljuries9473
    @danieljuries9473 21 день тому +2

    Even if they copied pixar..... I'd say they copied them, and made it better.......
    Ruby Gillman>Turning Red,Luca.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  21 день тому

      Hottest take of the century right here

  • @eeveefennecfox
    @eeveefennecfox 14 днів тому +2

    I think it's just a coinidence,movies take what? 4 years to make? and they came out a year apart from each other? I find it impossible for teenage karken to copy turning red,now if the movies are 4 years apart instead of a year,then yes it would have a bunch of questionable problems

  • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
    @zombathinlostleghackercat5233 14 днів тому +1

    Turning Blue.

  • @goplayoutside3599
    @goplayoutside3599 23 дні тому +2

    They copied both little mermaid and turning red holy s-

  • @ViewerOnline101
    @ViewerOnline101 19 днів тому +7

    Dreamworks may have copied Disney, but Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken was better than Turning Red.

  • @KingaBanfi
    @KingaBanfi 22 дні тому +2

    I think Turning red is a very cool movie. Tbh my favourite

  • @wondaraptor
    @wondaraptor 23 дні тому +4

    Did I just found a jem with only 618 subscribers

  • @Walterman2
    @Walterman2 18 днів тому +2

    the worse movie copys the worst movie(i swwear i hate both)

    • @eeveefennecfox
      @eeveefennecfox 14 днів тому +2

      cartoon hater

    • @Walterman2
      @Walterman2 11 днів тому

      @@eeveefennecfox i dont hate cartoons cause i like watching looney toons or flintstones so you can't be talking

  • @Nobodye56
    @Nobodye56 4 дні тому

    Turning red was just so much better, in my opinion. It was actually memorable, tbh I can barely remember anything about Ruby Gilman

  • @Candjstudios2024
    @Candjstudios2024 13 годин тому

    No shit. That's the reason the company exists. To rip on Disney. That's what they did until about 2010.

  • @PaperMario64
    @PaperMario64 14 днів тому

    DreamWorks didn’t have the guts to actually talk about female body functions. Points go to Pixar.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  13 днів тому

      to be fair, they used it for comedic relief lol

  • @just_a_little_rat
    @just_a_little_rat 23 дні тому +10

    Call me paranoid but Turning Red is underrated as hell. The thing I cannot say about Ruby Gillman. Just my opinion:
    *Turning Red*
    I am Mei. I turn into giant red panda whenever I am overexcited. And I thought that is uncomfortable... But I managed to find the good side of this special trait of mine. I have awesome friends who always support me. Yes, I did choose my family over them when mom found out I lied to her... But they still cared about me and even looked after my tamagotchi! Plus I stood up for them later because I love them! My friends are so loyal to me that they asked our beloved band to save my mom with their singing. Firstly, my story is about to help you to find the bright side in your weaknesses. Secondly, my story is about to show you how great friendship is. Thirdly, the thing my mom hated about me is the very same thing that saved her, can you smell this great level of irony?))
    *Ruby Gillman*
    I am Ruby. Those are my mom and grandma. We, three mighty krakens, were not able to defeat the single pathetic mermaid without using our laser eyes. Why? She had the most powerful weapon in this universe... *THE FORK!*

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +2

      hahaha exactly this. I seriously can't tell if the majority of people like Turning Red. Everyone I know that has seen it at my school absolutely hates it, but then others online and that I talk to about it either see it as meh or really good. It's such a weird topic. I however, after a butt ton of analysis, have found out that it's actually pretty dang good.

    • @just_a_little_rat
      @just_a_little_rat 22 дні тому +2

      I think the main reason people hate Turning Red is because of so-called "cringe" moments. But that is the whole point. Mei feels really uncomfortable when Ming just takes the spotlight and makes a show out of any situation her daughter gets into. Mei feels this cringe. And if we feel this cringe too, then Pixar did nothing wrong

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому

      @@just_a_little_rat you’re not gonna believe me but I made a video about this exact topic 😊
      I can’t remember exactly what I said cuz I made it a while ago but you should check it out.
      ua-cam.com/video/6A4uY0sI9tg/v-deo.htmlsi=zVRetGB6Hh_c1YMH

    • @just_a_little_rat
      @just_a_little_rat 22 дні тому

      Sure, I will

    • @tiamystic
      @tiamystic 19 днів тому +1

      “And we saved the day with mAtH!!111!”

  • @RootTheLucario
    @RootTheLucario 3 дні тому

    Even if it wasn’t copied i think turning red is still weird its like microsoft saying lets follow what nintendo is doing and add something from the nintendo switch onto the new xbox

  • @anthonywalker6268
    @anthonywalker6268 17 днів тому +2

    I disagree, more likely there both responses to the little mermaid controversy that came about during the time it started development.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  17 днів тому

      How exactly did they respond?

    • @anthonywalker6268
      @anthonywalker6268 15 днів тому

      Woman don't need no man.

    • @anthonywalker6268
      @anthonywalker6268 15 днів тому

      I'm partly joking as I do like them both, but I feel like that's turning into a theme of our era.

  • @broadwaybrook2319
    @broadwaybrook2319 16 днів тому

    (Random) 4:18 I have that Lego Up house set!

  • @calebprescott440
    @calebprescott440 15 днів тому

    To be honest I actually like Ruby gillman teenage kraken more than turning red hope ruby gillman gets a tv series soon

  • @Michael.J400
    @Michael.J400 13 днів тому

    isnt that guy from chucky

  • @arrowpictures2844
    @arrowpictures2844 22 дні тому +3

    Honestly, saying Ruby Gillman is a Turning Red ripoff is like saying The Lego Movie is a Toy story ripoff.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +1

      Never said it was a rip off, just pointing out the fact that they're similar.
      There's a difference between similar concepts and extremely similar plots and characters.

    • @arrowpictures2844
      @arrowpictures2844 22 дні тому

      @@thejackcarlin You did say in the title that DreamWorks copied Pixar and yes they have done that before with antz and they do share some similarities. But to me it copied more from the little mermaid than TR, Turning Red wasn’t really original either though. Ever heard of Michael Fox’s Teen Wolf?
      I’m not hating on Turning Red btw, I like both films.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому

      Ya know that’s a fair point. That being said, I couldn’t really title it any other way that would be compelling at all.
      “Dreamworks made a similar movie to Pixar”

    • @arrowpictures2844
      @arrowpictures2844 21 день тому

      @@thejackcarlin I feel yah, I’m not good at saying things more lightly either.

  • @kidnappednapkin
    @kidnappednapkin 14 днів тому

    Luca's mom 😩

  • @emmanuelmcdaddie5165
    @emmanuelmcdaddie5165 19 днів тому +2

    Unpopular opinion all dreamworks movies are bad

  • @frollealabanks2020
    @frollealabanks2020 3 години тому

    No stop it they didn’t

  • @jacoanimationstudio-di7hi
    @jacoanimationstudio-di7hi 5 днів тому

    lol I thought I was the only one who noticed this

  • @stabbycat748
    @stabbycat748 8 днів тому

    Normally Dreamworks is good at making fun of Disney/Pixar movies.
    Except turning red was actually good. The only people who didn’t like it were people who are weird about periods…and anyone who has never been or never had a 13 year old girl. Those are the only 2 people.
    Turning Red is at least interesting.
    Teenage Kracken feels like a story written by a 13 year old.
    Turning Red felt like it was written by an adult ABOUT 13 year olds.

    • @Uzi_Doorman.17
      @Uzi_Doorman.17 5 днів тому

      I don't like turning red because I find it boring (my opinion)

  • @LumbagoV1ct1im247
    @LumbagoV1ct1im247 14 днів тому

    And guess what? They were both terrible!

  • @Lxnar_144
    @Lxnar_144 14 днів тому

    DreamWorks did it better.
    Change my mind.

  • @nas0518
    @nas0518 22 дні тому +2

    Uh, no the hell it didn't. The movie had been in production for years before Turning Red and Luca existed.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  22 дні тому +2

      5:12
      Watch the video before you make a stupid comment

  • @ffunttik
    @ffunttik 14 днів тому

    No One Copied Anything. Don't Spread Hate.

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  14 днів тому

      5:15
      Watch the video chump.

    • @ffunttik
      @ffunttik 14 днів тому

      @@thejackcarlin Who Cares?

    • @thejackcarlin
      @thejackcarlin  14 днів тому

      @@ffunttik ... what do you mean who cares?

    • @ffunttik
      @ffunttik 14 днів тому

      @@thejackcarlin i Have No Idea.

    • @Uzi_Doorman.17
      @Uzi_Doorman.17 5 днів тому

      @@ffunttik you should watch the video before you say anything