TPE Class 185 'Desiro' Review - The North's Diesel Express Trains

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  • Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
  • Hello, and welcome back to another train trip report on my channel.
    In this video I will be travelling on-board a TransPennine Express Class 185 from Hull to Leeds.
    These trains used to to form the backbone of the North's longer distance railway lines, now they've been supplemented with a new fleet of longer trains, but still continue providing service on some routes. I wanted to find out what the experience on one of these regional diesel units is like!
    Enjoy the video. :)
    #desiro #transpennineexpress #tripreport
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    Journey Details:
    Origin: Hull
    Destination: Leeds
    Company: TransPennine Express
    Train: UK Class 185
    Accommodation: Standard Class Seat (2nd)
    Distance: 51 miles / 82 kilometres
    Price: £4.90
    Time: 0h57m
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 167

  • @haz2005
    @haz2005 2 роки тому +46

    The reason why the departure was so slow is because platform 5 and 6 are sinking, Network set this limit until colas come around with theyre 56s to fix it

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +10

      Thanks for that, I just knew somebody would have the answer! 👍

    • @haz2005
      @haz2005 2 роки тому

      @@SuperalbsTravels np!

    • @PanosSkarp
      @PanosSkarp 2 роки тому

      What does it mean? sinking?

    • @haz2005
      @haz2005 2 роки тому

      @@PanosSkarp into the ground

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +1

      @@PanosSkarp The tracks are going down into the ground.

  • @ItsAllAboutTheJourney
    @ItsAllAboutTheJourney 2 роки тому +18

    Brilliant video! I think TPE’s product may be one of the best in the north.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +3

      It's pretty solid, right? Thanks for watching. :)

  • @Daae07_
    @Daae07_ 2 роки тому +23

    I went on one of these recently between Leeds and Manchester - my only complaint there was that it was super busy but other than that it was smooth sailing. Loved the seats and interior design

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      Ah, still busy then? 😬

    • @ianap
      @ianap 2 роки тому +4

      @@SuperalbsTravels 3 carriage train (1 of which is mostly first class) has always been ridiculous on that route. But even the new 5 carriage trains aren't enough... Last week I traveled from Liverpool to Leeds on the 5 carriage Transpennine unit and there was people having to stand because they couldn't find a seat! And that's with passenger numbers still lower than normal due to Covid!!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      @@ianap That's surprising! Perhaps they should have ordered them longer...again. 😳

    • @Daae07_
      @Daae07_ 2 роки тому

      @@SuperalbsTravels yeah but it’s a shame because they’re really nice and I would love to travel on them more

    • @ChineseJohnCena
      @ChineseJohnCena Рік тому +3

      Good job the class 185 transpennine expresses are usually connected to another class 185 making 6 coaches, much more coaches now, similar thing happened with the class 220 and 221 as well

  • @spitfiregaming_
    @spitfiregaming_ 2 роки тому +12

    Travel tip for others; I went on one recently from Scarborough to Leeds, and if you’re ever travelling late evening, it is much cheaper. E.g. the 20:34 train would’ve cost me about £20 one way, yet the 21:34 cost me less than half that amount!!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      Good tip, you can get some bargains if you're flexible with your times!

  • @tonywilkins6090
    @tonywilkins6090 2 роки тому +5

    3:58 To answer your question, on top of what UK Transport has said, there is s a 5mph temperoary speed board, so your train basically had to go slow.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for that, should have paid more attention shouldn't I, haha?

    • @tonywilkins6090
      @tonywilkins6090 2 роки тому +1

      @@SuperalbsTravelsIf it helps, I watched the video 1st time and I missed it, it was only the 2nd time that I realised it was there.

    • @andybray9791
      @andybray9791 Рік тому

      Burneside has a 5mph sign

  • @huddersfieldtrains
    @huddersfieldtrains 2 роки тому +3

    Superalbs,just wondering could you do a Northern “Sprinter” Review on the Settle - Carlisle Line,It would make a Great Video and Scenery!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      Perhaps in the future, I always like scenic routes.

  • @470danadidas
    @470danadidas 2 роки тому +16

    TPE have probably some the best trains in the UK.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +4

      I agree they have currently got, and historically had, a pretty good allocation, with the odd outlier here and there! 😁

    • @Transpennine
      @Transpennine 2 роки тому +1

      Definitely the services to Scarborough are my favourite (nova 3)

  • @matthewbull7
    @matthewbull7 2 роки тому +2

    I was forced to take a TPE 185 from York to Manchester to then return to London due to the wires being down on the ECML. From what I remember it was a good ride

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      You were forced!? 😲

    • @matthewbull7
      @matthewbull7 2 роки тому +1

      @@SuperalbsTravels yes to get back to London Euston the TPE service was the only option for me to get to a Manchester due to ticket acceptance too.

  • @DriverJD
    @DriverJD 2 роки тому +6

    There appeared to be a 5mph speed restriction in the platform looking at the yellow sign

  • @thatlonewolfguy2878
    @thatlonewolfguy2878 2 роки тому +3

    I remember doing Manchester Piccadilly to Glasgow on a 185 and it was horrendously overcrowded, hopefully that's fixed now though with the 397s (the single best looking train on the entire UK network and no one will ever change my mind) which I've yet to take a ride on

  • @jgodfrey546
    @jgodfrey546 2 роки тому +1

    A Hull of a video! Leeds 1 to a desire to travel...

  • @EuroDC1990
    @EuroDC1990 2 роки тому +5

    Excellent trains and now that they mostly run in multiple and the overcrowding isn't such an issue they're a pleasure to travel on. I'd love to see them on the Liverpool - Nottingham route too if that every does get split with a TPE takeover. That route would be a great one for the extra capacity 6 carriages would provide and a first class option on that route wouldn't go amiss either

    • @simonsv9449
      @simonsv9449 Рік тому

      If TPE takes over, my thought is that they could run the services past Nottingham via Grantham to Skegness, since most TPE North Route and South Rouge services do end at cities by the coast. EMR services from Norwich could then terminate at Nottingham.

  • @huddersfieldtrains
    @huddersfieldtrains 2 роки тому +7

    I have been Patientley Waiting for this superalbs,Greetings From Lanzarote!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! :)
      You on a holiday out there then, or do you live there?

    • @huddersfieldtrains
      @huddersfieldtrains 2 роки тому +2

      Nah I’m on a holiday,live in Halifax and am obsessed about trains :-)

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      @@huddersfieldtrains Awesome! 😁

  • @johndavies4892
    @johndavies4892 2 роки тому +4

    It is some time since I travelled on a 185 but I always liked them, as DMUs they haven't been bettered, Siemans seem to have the edge where quality is concerned.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      I seldom have issues with Siemens stock, they're generally solidly made trains.

  • @Pulsarnix
    @Pulsarnix 2 роки тому +5

    These units are great following their refurbishment and with the majority of them being run as two units coupled together, it makes them a more of a viable option to travel on at peak times.
    Also, a video in 1st class would be great please, those seats look so comfortable

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +4

      Okay, I will think about it next time I am in the area!

  • @youtubeaccount734
    @youtubeaccount734 Рік тому +1

    I love Class 185. It's my favourite train. But the refurbishment part is the only place I dig on. I like the new livery, yes, very much. But, I will still miss the 'Dynamic Lines' livery with the colourful stripes rang along the exterior of the train --- that was a beauty in a nutshell!

  • @gordonprentice7090
    @gordonprentice7090 2 роки тому +2

    At (3:58) there is a 5 MPH TSR board that's probably the reason for the slow departure.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      I should have been paying more attention, thanks! 🙄😅

  • @huddersfieldtrains
    @huddersfieldtrains 2 роки тому +3

    Haven’t you already Done a Standard Class review for Tpe desiro to Scarborough?

  • @stepheng7586
    @stepheng7586 Рік тому +1

    The 185s really are a great regional train.......just what the 195s should have been.

  • @uzmaullah1432
    @uzmaullah1432 2 роки тому +2

    I got a TPE ad before this 😅😅
    I think the 185s are decent. I wouldn't say they're outstanding as I found one part of the seat to be a little hard but it was a very relaxing journey. The best train I've probs been on is maybe an IC225. Never ridden a HST before 😭

  • @arnoldspottingvideos5269
    @arnoldspottingvideos5269 2 роки тому +3

    Great video mate. I like the 185s and 397s actually they're both my favourite

  • @timbounds7190
    @timbounds7190 2 роки тому +1

    Yes, nice enough trains, but not enough seats! The layout is rather commuter like with big doors and standing areas, compared to the old 158s which were crammed with seats! And having 1st class makes things worse. Don't forget you might want to use these for quite long journeys - up to 3 hours, say from the NE to Manchester and you want a seat!! I read somewhere that the operators wanted 4 carriage sets, but the Treasury decreed that 3 were enough for Northerners....

  • @ChineseJohnCena
    @ChineseJohnCena Рік тому +1

    I love these trains, I’ve been on them like 4 times in my lifetime, I wish Bachman made a model kit of them, I would totally buy one!

  • @joecrammond6221
    @joecrammond6221 2 роки тому +2

    a new train company have started today operating london to edinburgh journeys at low cost of around £25 and 4 hour journeys, would love to see you do a video on those

  • @thameslinktravels7697
    @thameslinktravels7697 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! The class 185 is my favourite train along with the other trains of the Desiro family!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      Thanks! They're pretty nice little machines, huh? :)
      I also like the look of the Desiro Verve, but sadly none were ordered...

  • @tonguepiercing
    @tonguepiercing 2 роки тому +1

    A large station, so many trains, nothing electrified … the UK is so far behind …

  • @TripsonBudget
    @TripsonBudget 2 роки тому +1

    When I hear Desiro a different train picture is in my mind :) At least on this one, the seats looks much more comfortable.
    What I don't like, it seems that the space is narrow on 2nd class. 2:29

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +1

      It does look rather narrow, but I had no problems. And I think I'd prefer this to one of yours! 😅

    • @TripsonBudget
      @TripsonBudget 2 роки тому

      @@SuperalbsTravels I guess that I'd prefer the same :). I really need to make some plans to finally ride some brittish trains. It would be a first for me.

  • @transitcaptain
    @transitcaptain 2 роки тому +1

    4:59 my favourite part

  • @Salfordian
    @Salfordian Місяць тому

    Showing their age now, I used them a lot and the amount of times it's been cancelled due to electrical problems with doors not opening etc isn't funny

  • @brianlaunchbury4491
    @brianlaunchbury4491 2 роки тому +1

    I've enjoyed travelling on the 185's from Malton to York. I agree with your assessment.

  • @BritishTrainsRBX
    @BritishTrainsRBX 2 роки тому +1

    Ayyyy the class 185 I like that train very much because of the smart interior and motor sound

  • @transitcaptain
    @transitcaptain 2 роки тому +1

    I like the Nova trains, but we all know these ones have good seats

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +1

      They are actually surprisingly good seats, never complaining about them.

  • @o7428
    @o7428 2 роки тому +1

    Overall I think the 185 is my favorite train they are very comfy and provide good leg room and accessories 😀

  • @jollyjohnston1984
    @jollyjohnston1984 2 роки тому +1

    Theres a TSR leaving Hull, due to the platform issues.
    The 185s have never operated all TPE services, they had the 350s on the Anglo Scots prior to the new fleet and the 170s on the South route (and the Hull route too about 10 years ago) :)

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      True!

    • @kristiancross6898
      @kristiancross6898 2 роки тому

      Think they got rid of the 170s on the south route a while ago now

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      Yeah, the 170s are long gone...

    • @kristiancross6898
      @kristiancross6898 2 роки тому

      @@SuperalbsTravels Only trains we have from tpexpress where I live are the 185s (other TOC is East Midlands Trains)

  • @НаталияТалапина
    @НаталияТалапина Місяць тому

    A tip on why this train is so slow in 89% of operation is because the axle applies too much weight, and the train can not move as fast. Basically, the axles are too heavy to reach the speed limit

  • @pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt
    @pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt 2 роки тому +1

    10:05 Video's final score: 9.8

  • @muntasirmahmood4374
    @muntasirmahmood4374 10 місяців тому

    The rattling sound you mentioned is an air compressor. It turns on and off randomly. Overall though these are fantastic trains with amazing sounding engines. Plus as you mentioned the seats are very comfy. Although the old 2006 interior was far superior in my opinion with the dynamic lines livery.

  • @lindavainomae3489
    @lindavainomae3489 2 роки тому +1

    Very smart looking train indeed. I'm amazed at how much the price can change depending on when you travel and when you book. For an overseas visitor who wants flexibility I suspect a Rail Pass would be the way to go?

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +1

      It depends on what your plans are, if looking for flexibility then a country-wide or even Europe-wide pass is probably the best way to go.

  • @ironmantrains
    @ironmantrains 2 роки тому +1

    The only place you can't go to from Leeds is Wales.

    • @stevesmith9602
      @stevesmith9602 2 роки тому +1

      Can if you change at Bristol Parkway.

    • @ironmantrains
      @ironmantrains 2 роки тому +3

      @@stevesmith9602 That's not direct through...

    • @Andrewjg_89
      @Andrewjg_89 2 роки тому

      You could ask CrossCountry to introduce a new service to Wales from Leeds, Hull and York.

    • @ironmantrains
      @ironmantrains 2 роки тому

      @@Andrewjg_89 Idk whether they'll do it, but they could do with operating a West Wales - Manchester service that could have more capacity and be faster than the current TfW services

  • @HMPeterHearty7818
    @HMPeterHearty7818 2 роки тому +2

    nice video

  • @stevesmith9602
    @stevesmith9602 2 роки тому

    The reason for the impressive station in Hull is George ‘The Railway King’ Hudson.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +1

      Well, that actually makes a lot of sense! 👍

    • @stevesmith9602
      @stevesmith9602 2 роки тому

      @@SuperalbsTravels
      It was known as ’Hudson’s Folly’ because it was thought that the scale of the station & hotel was too large for Hull . Eventually, Hudson’s fraudulent dealings were uncovered.

  • @Thundxr1
    @Thundxr1 Рік тому

    I’d imagine the train would’ve been held by a signal

  • @petergibson9956
    @petergibson9956 2 роки тому +1

    hey albie, great video! i'd recommend trying the new 'lumo' operator, i'm really interested to see what their service and trains are like..

  • @jamieleestransporthub
    @jamieleestransporthub 2 роки тому +1

    I was on them a few months ago, they were the best DMUs I have ever been on 😃

  • @TEBEnthusiast
    @TEBEnthusiast 2 роки тому +1

    Nice trip! Also since Lumo has entered service with the new class 803s, you should try them out! They look pretty good.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      Will see what I can do! 😉

    • @TEBEnthusiast
      @TEBEnthusiast 2 роки тому +1

      @@SuperalbsTravels I’ve heard the seats are an improvement to the 800s, 801s and 802s. And the shape is different.

    • @maimadha
      @maimadha 2 роки тому

      @@TEBEnthusiast the seats on 800s and 802s are very uncomfortable.

    • @TEBEnthusiast
      @TEBEnthusiast 2 роки тому

      @@maimadha I know! The 800 and 802s are rubbish! I’m local to them.

  • @miahaskurti4539
    @miahaskurti4539 2 роки тому

    LNER Also Operate To Hull With One Of Their Azuma Trains

  • @TheRealDorran
    @TheRealDorran 2 роки тому

    If the train revs too fast wheelslip will occur

  • @Andrewjg_89
    @Andrewjg_89 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve been on the TransPennine Express Class 185 Desiro that Siemens have built and manufactured them. Maybe Siemens could of continued on manufacturing the Desiro DMUs for South Western Railway, Great Western Railway, Northern, ScotRail, Transport for Wales and East Midlands Railway. Plus the Northern Class 170 Turbostars and Hull Trains Class 802 Paragon IETs are amazing trains.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +2

      Wow, think that's a bit much, they're definitely not needed on the South Western. But I think it would be good if a few more were ordered...

    • @Andrewjg_89
      @Andrewjg_89 2 роки тому

      @@SuperalbsTravels Totally agree

  • @icextransport8490
    @icextransport8490 2 роки тому

    I think the 185s are the best trains about, however I have experienced a couple of them having engine rev slippages? 🤣 That was 185 119 & 185 127 but coupled with other units

  • @miahaskurti4539
    @miahaskurti4539 2 роки тому

    Do A Review On The New 803 Lumo Trains. They Are Built By Hitachi And They Dont Have The Fansia Sofa Design Seats!!

  • @gabrieljennings5255
    @gabrieljennings5255 2 роки тому

    6:21 I've noticed this rattling noise on the similar class 450s, but only above around 60mph

  • @georgedowns4034
    @georgedowns4034 2 роки тому

    I don't think Hull Trains have enough services tho. From Hull to London is about every 3 hours with considering the size of the place, I don't think that is good enough. Also why did that map not mention Redcar Central or St Helens Central? And why do more services stop at Dewsbury than Batley? Despite Batley being signifcantly bigger...

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      It's quite an old map, also doesn't mention the Saltburn extensions.

  • @brawlstarsmomentsandvideos6530
    @brawlstarsmomentsandvideos6530 2 роки тому +1

    We need a lumo review Albs!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      Will see what I can do! 😉

    • @maimadha
      @maimadha 2 роки тому

      @@SuperalbsTravels lumo review will be great

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      @@maimadha It's already available on my channel! :)

  • @haz2005
    @haz2005 2 роки тому +2

    Yay hull my local!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome! I guess you use this route a lot then?

    • @haz2005
      @haz2005 2 роки тому +1

      @@SuperalbsTravels yup!

  • @TheArkamedBat
    @TheArkamedBat 2 роки тому +1

    Do it in 1st Class as well

  • @miahaskurti4539
    @miahaskurti4539 2 роки тому

    Can You Do First Class On These Trains?

  • @DrOwainGardner
    @DrOwainGardner 2 роки тому +1

    Just to be "that person" - Hull's in the East Riding of Yorkshire, so not the North East :)

    • @kevanhubbard9673
      @kevanhubbard9673 2 роки тому +2

      Well it depends on what you mean by the north east generally it's used to mean Northumberland,Co Durham and the very top of the North Riding of Yorkshire.I'd say all of Yorkshire is the north of England and therefore the east.I'd use the pre 1974 boundaries of Yorkshire and Lancashire to say where the north begins,north of the boundary is the north and south the midlands.Sorry Cheshire!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому +1

      Controversial choice of words, clearly! 🙄

    • @DrOwainGardner
      @DrOwainGardner 2 роки тому +1

      @@kevanhubbard9673 Fab reply, Kevan! On the east coast the generally accepted thing is that the Midlands end at the south shore of Humber and Yorkshire (so "the North" more generally) begins on the north shore. So lots of considerations either way. That said, the regional list of England suggests that the North East includes: Tyne & Wear, Northumberland, County Durham and bits of North Yorkshire (including Middlesbrough and bits of Stokesley Parish). So I'd say anything in the East Riding is "Northern England" but not the North East - also, there's a definite shift in accents at Darlington (97 miles north by road from Hull through County Durham, North Yorkshire and the East Riding) from Geordie/Maccam variants to Yorkshire and even the East Yorkshire accent is different to North Yorkshire

    • @DrOwainGardner
      @DrOwainGardner 2 роки тому +1

      @@SuperalbsTravels not in the least! Just geographical acceptance of them

    • @kevanhubbard9673
      @kevanhubbard9673 2 роки тому +1

      The Northumbrian accent begins around Whitby as my grandfather was from there and southerners thought that he was a Geordie!Whitby is about 50/50 between Northumbrian and Yorkshire accent wise, Middlesbrough is predominantly Northumbrian, what's known as a South Durham accent and it's exactly the same accent as people north of the Tees speak with places like Stockton, Hartlepool, Darlington,etc.At the Durham coal field the accent become even closer to Geordie and in Newcastle 100 percent Geordie! Regarding the rural Northumberland accent I'd say Geordieish but at Berwick you get the Whitby 50/50 position except it's 50/50 between Northumbrian and Scottish!

  • @markwinstanley582
    @markwinstanley582 2 роки тому

    I did this train from Manchester to Glasgow and I had to stand for alot of the way as the train I should of got had broke down.

    • @kriss_b
      @kriss_b 2 роки тому

      This also frequently happend to me.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      Oh god, that sounds awful!

  • @ajb229
    @ajb229 2 роки тому

    Diesel chuggers

  • @flaps6467
    @flaps6467 2 роки тому

    There’s a 5mph speed limit into and out of the platform, which is captured on you video.

  • @emilianohaskurti9344
    @emilianohaskurti9344 2 роки тому

    The Mostly Used Trains On Transpennine Express

  • @SkhTrains
    @SkhTrains 2 роки тому

    Best DMU in Britain? Would struggle to think of anything that tops them, wonderful units

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      Ooh, maybe! How about a lovely 159? 😃

    • @JohnLeeming23
      @JohnLeeming23 2 роки тому

      @@SuperalbsTravels Agreed. As diesel trains go, the 159s on SW Railways are a good quality match for the 185s.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  2 роки тому

      I agree, have spent many weeks on the 159s, and really cannot complain at all.

  • @JBFlytography
    @JBFlytography 2 роки тому

    “Troubled trains”🙄😂