Crazy to think that Toshiro eating his snack is literally what kicks off the events that lead to Ichigo being born and thus the story moving on at all.
When i read this scene in the manga, it crossed my mind that throughout the series, whenever Toshiro shows up at Ichigo’s house, Isshin is never around.
can you imagine during that one time that Rangiku tried to flash herself towards ichigo just so she could stay in his house, just the idea of Ishin walking in and just seeing his former lieutenant doing that to his kid.
Dammit Rangiku, I leave for 20 years and this is the first thing I see? And you Toshiro, have you been letting her get away with things like that? How do you plan to land a man Rangiku, when you're giving the goods away for a roof over your head to any guy you meet? First Yoruichi, now you. Stop flashing my son FFS.
I just realize when they all in ichigo's house, all it takes is for isshin to go upstairs and bother his son, and toshiro amd rangiku would know they're in their former captains house, damn
I think the only other times Isshin and Hitsugaya/Rangiku saw each other in Bleach: -The scene when Rangiku and Isshin saw each other when Ichigo brought an exhausted Isshin with him after training to obtain Mugetsu while Rangiku tried to save Gin from Aizen's wrath. -I'd say more off-screen, but Isshin arriving to Fake Karakura Town to fight Aizen while Hitsugaya was incapacitated. Same setting and all.
Not how I would personally put it, on account they're essentially peers and Hitsugaya acts more like an adult than Matsumoto. Suppose them being my OTP also contributes to me not seeing it like that.
@@jondoe7036 i agree, as much as it would make sense to be a big sister little brother vibe since she basically found him, saved his granny and brought him in ss, they dnt have much of tht dynamic or connection at all
Imagine if Rangiku and Toshiro were around for Ichigo and his siblings' upbringing. Rangiku-nee and Toshiro-nii. Imagine Masaki being a stepmom to these two.
I wish they reunite together again ❤😔 I mean many people want them to and I am one I can imagine how wold they be Rangiku will be the crazy aunt that would adore both Karin and Yuzu She would definitely by gifts for the girls and would join them in their girly activities (Mostly talking about boys and future stuff) Toshiro on the other hand ✋ I guess he would kinda be mad at Isshin for leaving but awkward time explaining Ichigo about their times together ❤ Him and Karin could get along well, they would play soccer together like in those to episodes (ep132 & 316) Rangiku and Yuzu would always these them about being a couple along with Isshin while Ichigo is the overprotective brother Sometimes I guess they can bring Momo and Shinji as well (Momo would be friends with Yuzu and Shinji would be goofy like Isshin) Also Momo and Shinji will join the group and annoy Toshiro and Karin for sure 🤣👌🔥
Well keep in mind although us fans would love to see more slice of life interactions, Soul Reapers still dont associate with humans from the world of the living. Even if thanks to Ichigo changing SS for the better, they still uphold their rules and traditions of doing their job and keeping the balance. This goes for Karin and Yuzu though. As for Ishin we should get a bit more at the end when he goes to SS. I do wish Karin accepted her abilities or get a short stories of her loosing all her powers like Ichigo to become human, something for her and Uruharas kids.
Can't help to wonder how long it was from this point to where Toshiro had to watch Kusaka(his best friend from Diamond Dust Rebellion) be killed over the dispute of Hyōrinmaru
It’s crazy that we don’t ever see an interaction with Toshiro and Isshin in the current events. Hopefully we get to see it in the final part of the anime…
I feel like people overexaggerate her "laziness". She doesn't want to do paperwork.....Like...who cares? She's not going to get better at fighting by doing paperwork. People act like she's lazy "in battle" or "in the field", but she really isn't. Anytime we've seen her fight, even if it wasn't particularly impressive, she's always been proactive and on-guard - not lazy at all. She's just....not really OP - as one may expect of a random side character. Even in this clip, when things got serious, she was ready to follow Isshin immediately. Proof that when it actually matters, she's willing to actually work and do her part. Now obviously she would have been way above her head in this situation, so Toshiro's call to stay back was very smart (and shows why he's already better than her at this stage since he's making better educated decisions), but the point is : Rangiku isn't particularly lazy, she just doesn't want to do boring paperwork. Which is understandable. Regarding her not achieving Bankai, well it's meant to be extremely rare to begin with, but also as others have stated : she used to have the Nail of the Soul King in her (which, imo, might have made her much stronger initially if she could have kept it) but Aizen stole it from her. He noted that she should have died from this, so the fact that she not only survived but also kept enough Spirital Pressure to actually become a Lieutenant-level Shinigami was somewhat note-worthy.
The "bull's-eye" line doesn't make sense without the context of the manga. They changed how the scene went down for some reason. In the manga, she takes a pan (or something) from a passerby and throws it into the tree, and that hits Isshin and knocks him out of it. Hence: bull's-eye
Ichigo and Toshiro's partnership in the second movie and Toshiro running into Karin in a filler suddenly don't seem like coincidences. It's as if Isshin's bloodline is positively attracted to Toshiro for some reason.
@@johnnysins6212 i know bro i have watched bleach but the hair colour of both of them looks exactly same that's i am saying other than that this anime is one of the best among the other big 4
So you are telling me that these two bozos visited ichigo's home god knows how many times but never thought of telling him about his dad? Wow. Just wow. Thats some peak ignorance from a character if i have ever seen.
@@Not_Karma did he though? He does now, but at the time he explicitly states that with their (both, combined) current level they will just get in a way of Isshin, hence no heading after him. Only two days passed after that point and Isshin didnt return, rendering the squad captainless. Its never implied that Toshiro somehow developed bankai during this extremely small time period. Most likely, after Isshin's disappearance Toshiro was accepted as a temporary substitute captain, since he did all the paperwork already anyway. Then, before a better candidate was found, he developed his bankai and took this place - which could have taken quite a significant time, we dont know for sure how much. It is also possible that he bypassed the bankai requirement, since there are 3 ways to become a captain: to pass a test (involving bankai), to kill your own captain (Kenpachi exclusive) and to be approved by enought existing captains. This could easily have happened too. And bankai could probably be achieved like years after this point. Although, replying to the initial question in this comments branch, basically ANYONE is more preferable than Rangiku as a captain, despite her experience. Yes, she has the power of a lieutenant, but she is stuck on this level and has absolutely no ambition or desire to ever grow. She has troubles communicating with Haineko, as both are lazy and vain, and doesnt seem to like the idea of getting any more responsibility or the need to adher to a more reserved behavior expected from a captain. Never in a million years could she be entrusted with making any captain level decisions. But apparently, she really IS a solid lieutenant.
@@devo4ka_soso4ka but when he talks to isshin he says that he is making progress with his bankai i tought he already had it and was trying to master it like he did in the tybw arc
@@devo4ka_soso4kadude Kubo even released his official statement in Klub Outside's Q&A that Toshiro had Bankai before joining the 13 Court Guards. Google it.
@@thesilentcartographer5575 wow, first of all, thank you for the info. I didnt know about it. Sadly, i dont periodically check if some mangaka answered some more questions in some interview, so i missed this one. Was answering based on what i saw in the anime and manga. Second, dudette. Third, well, then its a HUGE plot hole, because a bankai wielding Hitsugaya couldnt have possibly been a burden on Isshin if he went after his captain back then. Isshin himself couldnt use bankai in this battle, and although noone could know he would be wounded to not be able to use bankai, Hitsugaya's presence would have helped him immensely. I dont believe Isshin to be much more powerful in bankai than Hitsugaya was at the time, the difference couldnt have been so dire for Toshiro to just refuse to follow his captain because of it. It has no explanation, basically a very useful Toshiro just abandoned his captain while feeding Rangiku a lie that they BOTH COMBINED wouldnt be able to help and would only get in a way. If anything, i'd expect him to be more reluctantly put into captain's position after that miscalculation, and him personally to reflect on that for years after it happened. Also, its unclear why Toshiro wasnt a second seat in his squad if he already had bankai and Rangiku didnt. I could kinda expect Isshin to make her his second seat simply because of her looks and personality, but from a practical point of view its a huge oversight in an army (and Gotei IS an army), since Rangiku isnt very capable even during Gotei arc, and was probably even less capable back then, while Toshiro already did all the paperwork for her and was better in tactics and sheer power. It was kinda a plot hole even before, since his shikai is much more capable in his hands than Rangiku's shikai - in hers, but with that bankai bit of info him being only a third seat is simply dumb.
Even before becoming captain of squad 10, Toshiro did most of the paperwork.
Explains why he was so bitchy to Ichigo 🤣🤣
@@martinbonsu4661 He only doesn't like the lack of proper respect Ichigo gives him, mainly not addressing him as captain. Their actually a lot alike.
@@AdPhDu1 ik it's a joke......
He would have made an excellent Hokage
@@martinbonsu4661 HOW IS BITCHY TOWARDS ICHIGO!? 😡😡 NOW I HATE TOSHIRO!!! LITTLE JERK!!
Ishin: Toshiro, you ate my manju.
Aizen: all acording to plan.
Truth is that aizen ate the manju
@@joaokenobiamaral3215
Most likely xD
Crazy to think that Toshiro eating his snack is literally what kicks off the events that lead to Ichigo being born and thus the story moving on at all.
Exactly as Aizen planned.
@@The_child-catcher All according to keikaku.
Maybe that's why we always saw Toshiro interacting with Ichigo's family so much throughout Bleach.
Damn. It is crazy.
@@sasagrcevic475 translator note: keikaku means plan
It's funny to think that Rangiku is a lieutenant for a long time and Toshiro eventually became ahead of her.
Well yeah, because she's lazy as hell
Bankai matters
Aizen stole a part of her soul which is likely the reason she can't achieve bankai.
@@j.k.1239is that joke?
@@damirrizvanov1566 yeah, that onion head guy who betred aizen
Remember that Ichigo was born because Toshiro ate Isshin's manju 😂😂😂
Aizen: Just as i planned ........... LOL
@@garthyahudahandrews8504 wouldn't be far fetched🤣
@@garthyahudahandrews8504 All according to keikaku
More precisely because Rangiku kicked a tree... 🌳🦵🏻🗯️😂
So Toshiro is the reason Ichigo exist? make sense
I really want ichigo dad to meet hitsugaya again
He might
When i read this scene in the manga, it crossed my mind that throughout the series, whenever Toshiro shows up at Ichigo’s house, Isshin is never around.
@@graceng2112 Hitsugaya already got it at the beginning of arrancar arc who was ichigo dad, out of respect he chose not to say anything
@@Kal911 is this in the anime or just the manga?
@@mercedesgalindo4277 kubo explained this in an interview. When Hitsugaya get out of the room he realises that his former captain had a family.
Toshiro, the son Isshin aways wanted.
Love the camaraderie of these two. They argue but absolutely would die for each other
My poor boy has always worked so hard, even before he became captain.
This is what happens when the people around him are clowns😂
I’m just noticing Toshiro is pulling Rangiku’s lower lip. 😂🤣😂🤣
Thats why its so puffy 🤣
can you imagine during that one time that Rangiku tried to flash herself towards ichigo just so she could stay in his house, just the idea of Ishin walking in and just seeing his former lieutenant doing that to his kid.
Omg I never thought about that 😂
Isshin would just smile and do thumbs up and bleed over the place, i think.
@@Isokka. "Nic-c-ce." (c) South Park
Dammit Rangiku, I leave for 20 years and this is the first thing I see? And you Toshiro, have you been letting her get away with things like that? How do you plan to land a man Rangiku, when you're giving the goods away for a roof over your head to any guy you meet? First Yoruichi, now you. Stop flashing my son FFS.
I just realize when they all in ichigo's house, all it takes is for isshin to go upstairs and bother his son, and toshiro amd rangiku would know they're in their former captains house, damn
Hitsugaya is too cute
İchigo : getsuga tensho!
Toshiro : I should remember this technique?
I'm happy they finally got her Hair color closer to blonde.
It looked better in the old anime. I don't care if the manga had it blonde.
@@buster3041 same, there aren’t a lot of ginger people in anime she looked more unique.
@@cosmictraveler1146 She didn't look unique at all
@@cosmictraveler1146It looked more like light strawberry blonde rather than full ginger which I think suited her perfectly.
Crazy to think Rangiku used to believe she’d become captain before Hitsugaya. XD
Aizen stole a part of her soul which is likely the reason she can't achieve bankai.
@@j.k.1239 really when? (genuinely asking)
@@Kamisenbonn When he was doing hollowfication experiments.He fed hogyoku parts of soul king.Rangiku had the nail of soul king inside her.
@@j.k.1239 oh thanks bro. 😁
She was around the same time as Gin, Byakuya, Soifon. Who became captain but she was still just vice captain
It’s funny Isshin picking up Toshiro like a little baby at 0:12. I was gonna say picking him up like a little kid but I mean… he is a little kid lol.
But don't let him hear you say that though. Good thing that he isn't real lol 😂
Sir.......he is a few decades old here
Bro was still working hard before he was even a captain.
rangiku:it’s not fair that he’s your successor
toshiro:what colour is your bankai💀
I think the only other times Isshin and Hitsugaya/Rangiku saw each other in Bleach:
-The scene when Rangiku and Isshin saw each other when Ichigo brought an exhausted Isshin with him after training to obtain Mugetsu while Rangiku tried to save Gin from Aizen's wrath.
-I'd say more off-screen, but Isshin arriving to Fake Karakura Town to fight Aizen while Hitsugaya was incapacitated. Same setting and all.
I just love their big sister/little brother dynamic.
Not how I would personally put it, on account they're essentially peers and Hitsugaya acts more like an adult than Matsumoto.
Suppose them being my OTP also contributes to me not seeing it like that.
Despite they need to level up far stronger over Ichigo/Rukia’s level.
@@jondoe7036 i agree, as much as it would make sense to be a big sister little brother vibe since she basically found him, saved his granny and brought him in ss, they dnt have much of tht dynamic or connection at all
And Isshin the favorite annoying uncle
@@StarWarssMania he’s older than her tho😂😂y’all are weird with these comparisons
Imagine if Rangiku and Toshiro were around for Ichigo and his siblings' upbringing. Rangiku-nee and Toshiro-nii. Imagine Masaki being a stepmom to these two.
Love the animation, Bleach has come along way since the beginning.
I wish they reunite together again ❤😔
I mean many people want them to and I am one
I can imagine how wold they be
Rangiku will be the crazy aunt that would adore both Karin and Yuzu
She would definitely by gifts for the girls and would join them in their girly activities
(Mostly talking about boys and future stuff)
Toshiro on the other hand ✋ I guess he would kinda be mad at Isshin for leaving but awkward time explaining Ichigo about their times together ❤
Him and Karin could get along well, they would play soccer together like in those to episodes (ep132 & 316)
Rangiku and Yuzu would always these them about being a couple along with Isshin while Ichigo is the overprotective brother
Sometimes I guess they can bring Momo and Shinji as well (Momo would be friends with Yuzu and Shinji would be goofy like Isshin)
Also Momo and Shinji will join the group and annoy Toshiro and Karin for sure 🤣👌🔥
Your just wrote a storyline for next coming arc😂 mybe kubo appved it ❤
@@Glad10lu5yes i did but kubo is just gonna deny it 😭✋
Well keep in mind although us fans would love to see more slice of life interactions, Soul Reapers still dont associate with humans from the world of the living. Even if thanks to Ichigo changing SS for the better, they still uphold their rules and traditions of doing their job and keeping the balance. This goes for Karin and Yuzu though. As for Ishin we should get a bit more at the end when he goes to SS. I do wish Karin accepted her abilities or get a short stories of her loosing all her powers like Ichigo to become human, something for her and Uruharas kids.
Wait, did they visit Kurosaki's house? Like staying or anything? In the first season as well?
Say that directly to Tite kubo then.
It feels weird to see Matsumoto calling him Toshiro.
She did recruit him to become a Shinigami once, so yeah.
Can't help to wonder how long it was from this point to where Toshiro had to watch Kusaka(his best friend from Diamond Dust Rebellion) be killed over the dispute of Hyōrinmaru
The was she says 'captain' i just love it soo much❤
Toshiro will always be my favorite Captain! 😊❤
Ya know, since she worked for Ichigo's dad, Rangiku's kind of like his aunt or something. And that would make Toshiro the...cool uncle. (Get it?)
That kid is his uncle😂
Rangiku: i am going to be the next captain of squad 10 🙂
Toshiro and Isshin: Yeah right! The whole sqaud will be in ruin if you get in charge! 😂😂😂😂
Aizen gave toshiro that snack so issin can ho to the wotl and continue his plan 😂😂
Tiny Toshiro
Tiniest Toshiro
White Shiro
Toshiro always was tiny.
@@Katon967 Adult Toshiro disagrees 🗿
Toshiro and Karin, Ishin will be furious
It’s crazy that we don’t ever see an interaction with Toshiro and Isshin in the current events. Hopefully we get to see it in the final part of the anime…
It seems really sus when Toshiro and Rangiku did not recognize Isshin when visiting Ichigo at their house.
Well they just sneak inside
Rangiku is soooo pretty.
@@EMKG1EMKGhuh😂
I feel like people overexaggerate her "laziness". She doesn't want to do paperwork.....Like...who cares? She's not going to get better at fighting by doing paperwork. People act like she's lazy "in battle" or "in the field", but she really isn't. Anytime we've seen her fight, even if it wasn't particularly impressive, she's always been proactive and on-guard - not lazy at all. She's just....not really OP - as one may expect of a random side character. Even in this clip, when things got serious, she was ready to follow Isshin immediately. Proof that when it actually matters, she's willing to actually work and do her part. Now obviously she would have been way above her head in this situation, so Toshiro's call to stay back was very smart (and shows why he's already better than her at this stage since he's making better educated decisions), but the point is : Rangiku isn't particularly lazy, she just doesn't want to do boring paperwork. Which is understandable.
Regarding her not achieving Bankai, well it's meant to be extremely rare to begin with, but also as others have stated : she used to have the Nail of the Soul King in her (which, imo, might have made her much stronger initially if she could have kept it) but Aizen stole it from her. He noted that she should have died from this, so the fact that she not only survived but also kept enough Spirital Pressure to actually become a Lieutenant-level Shinigami was somewhat note-worthy.
miss young toshiro 😢
The "bull's-eye" line doesn't make sense without the context of the manga. They changed how the scene went down for some reason. In the manga, she takes a pan (or something) from a passerby and throws it into the tree, and that hits Isshin and knocks him out of it. Hence: bull's-eye
And they removed the panel where Isshin praises Rangiku's melons HAHAHAHAHAHA
Isshin: Who ate my manju? I was saving those!
Toushirou:( crumps on his face): i don't know but it was delicious! (burp)
Dad went to the store for milk
Ichigo and Toshiro's partnership in the second movie and Toshiro running into Karin in a filler suddenly don't seem like coincidences. It's as if Isshin's bloodline is positively attracted to Toshiro for some reason.
One thing I'm curious about is did those two ever find out that their former Captain is Ichigo's dad.
they did . just to keep their distance without bothering him
Smol Toshiro is cute af.
Smaller than what he already is?
Well, twas his last words towards squad 10
The best 'couple'
was you taking speed b4 doing this edit?
Rangiku white hair lover
Yeah that's why he has a crush on you gin
@@Tukuna14 is she/he?
@@Netsumaru opps
What episode?
13th episode 2nd season
Isshin:I'll be back in two days
One year's later
Literally married a Quincy and still not coming back
He left to get his snack. And just like a dad for the milk, they never came back.
I'm still upset we never got a reunion between
Reminder that Rangiku tried to seduce her previous Captain's son
I really want to see her reaction to adult hitsugaya
I wonder who did the paperwork before Hitsugaya 😂
If he was the same age as her I would ship them
i loved every minute
O cabelo do toshiro no anime antigo tinha um tom de branco bem mais claro e chamativo curtia mais quando era assim
Rangiku looking like tsunade
一心の隊長時代のエピソード、スピンオフとかで見てみたい。
Let that child alone
This makes me reminisce about the Soul Society days 😂😂😢
pretty rangiku
Loved the ep
so...he go and
he never back to work again
he let his son to work😂
and he also not in
thousand war😅
why is toshiro taller there?
How it work?!?!
Ichigo didn't born year , so why when he grown up toshiro still looking like 10 yers old kid?!?!
Toshiro is a soul, they can live thousands of years. They don’t grow like humans.
Young toshiro?
Baby Shirou
@@analauramorelrocha2383 infant toshiro
Why did they change her look? She looks totally different person. And i guess even voice actor also changed.
is isshin shiba related to kaien shiba?
Isshin is kaien's uncle if i'm not mistaken
Son del mismo clan. Isshin es tío de los hermanos de los fuegos artificiales.
Rangiku is fine
is Rangiku the only reason why ichigos hair resembles her bcuz she meet his dad🤔
@@johnnysins6212 i know bro i have watched bleach but the hair colour of both of them looks exactly same that's i am saying other than that this anime is one of the best among the other big 4
toshiro didnt knew ichigo?
今では逆なんだけどね。
(ひっつーが隊長になってサボりまくりの乱菊になる)
ashton coe nichols
O arco tybw deixou o toushiro com um cabelo prateado eu prefiro a versão do anime antigo q era branco e bem chamativo
I think rangiku looks better with short hair than long hair ❤❤
Liggle shiro
乱菊の顔が少し違和感
若いからか?
No she is super young here this is a flash back
W
They don't now he is ichigos father
At least they fixed her hair color
I think before was better
They ruined it.
Real Blondes have Blonde hair wit Orange accents, Here they made her a bottle blonde brunette.
So you are telling me that these two bozos visited ichigo's home god knows how many times but never thought of telling him about his dad?
Wow. Just wow. Thats some peak ignorance from a character if i have ever seen.
This makes no sense, why didn't rangiku become the captain?
because toshiro had a bankai and matsumoto didn't
@@Not_Karma did he though? He does now, but at the time he explicitly states that with their (both, combined) current level they will just get in a way of Isshin, hence no heading after him.
Only two days passed after that point and Isshin didnt return, rendering the squad captainless.
Its never implied that Toshiro somehow developed bankai during this extremely small time period. Most likely, after Isshin's disappearance Toshiro was accepted as a temporary substitute captain, since he did all the paperwork already anyway.
Then, before a better candidate was found, he developed his bankai and took this place - which could have taken quite a significant time, we dont know for sure how much.
It is also possible that he bypassed the bankai requirement, since there are 3 ways to become a captain: to pass a test (involving bankai), to kill your own captain (Kenpachi exclusive) and to be approved by enought existing captains. This could easily have happened too.
And bankai could probably be achieved like years after this point.
Although, replying to the initial question in this comments branch, basically ANYONE is more preferable than Rangiku as a captain, despite her experience. Yes, she has the power of a lieutenant, but she is stuck on this level and has absolutely no ambition or desire to ever grow. She has troubles communicating with Haineko, as both are lazy and vain, and doesnt seem to like the idea of getting any more responsibility or the need to adher to a more reserved behavior expected from a captain.
Never in a million years could she be entrusted with making any captain level decisions.
But apparently, she really IS a solid lieutenant.
@@devo4ka_soso4ka but when he talks to isshin he says that he is making progress with his bankai i tought he already had it and was trying to master it like he did in the tybw arc
@@devo4ka_soso4kadude Kubo even released his official statement in Klub Outside's Q&A that Toshiro had Bankai before joining the 13 Court Guards. Google it.
@@thesilentcartographer5575 wow, first of all, thank you for the info. I didnt know about it. Sadly, i dont periodically check if some mangaka answered some more questions in some interview, so i missed this one. Was answering based on what i saw in the anime and manga.
Second, dudette.
Third, well, then its a HUGE plot hole, because a bankai wielding Hitsugaya couldnt have possibly been a burden on Isshin if he went after his captain back then. Isshin himself couldnt use bankai in this battle, and although noone could know he would be wounded to not be able to use bankai, Hitsugaya's presence would have helped him immensely. I dont believe Isshin to be much more powerful in bankai than Hitsugaya was at the time, the difference couldnt have been so dire for Toshiro to just refuse to follow his captain because of it. It has no explanation, basically a very useful Toshiro just abandoned his captain while feeding Rangiku a lie that they BOTH COMBINED wouldnt be able to help and would only get in a way.
If anything, i'd expect him to be more reluctantly put into captain's position after that miscalculation, and him personally to reflect on that for years after it happened.
Also, its unclear why Toshiro wasnt a second seat in his squad if he already had bankai and Rangiku didnt.
I could kinda expect Isshin to make her his second seat simply because of her looks and personality, but from a practical point of view its a huge oversight in an army (and Gotei IS an army), since Rangiku isnt very capable even during Gotei arc, and was probably even less capable back then, while Toshiro already did all the paperwork for her and was better in tactics and sheer power. It was kinda a plot hole even before, since his shikai is much more capable in his hands than Rangiku's shikai - in hers, but with that bankai bit of info him being only a third seat is simply dumb.
Too bad he dead now 💀💀
Who is? All three of these characters are still alive.
i only see booba 🫠🫠