Using The Back Door On The City Bus!
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Let’s talk about the back door on most public transit buses!
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Our buses here in Bloomington, IN have not yet reached this level of technology. Hopefully one day, but until then, "BACK DOOR!".
Another issue with the rear door that wasn't talked about in the video is fare evasion, which happens a lot in New York City. By far, that's caused bus operators to no longer automatically open the rear doors, which passengers hate since they have no clue how to use the rear doors when there's literally instructions on how to. I definitely feel the heat inside of operators having to deal with rear door fare evasion so they won't get in trouble by their supervisors and bosses, but having like 3 people scream at you "BACK DOOR" for something they can do themselves is another. Thanks for covering this topic.
It angers me after I pay my hard earned fare and some idiot(s) slides right in the back door!!!!! I guess it's their greatest accomplishment in life😂
I honestly feel like places like New York City should frankly adopt all door boarding to alleviate crowd levels though that fare issue could be annoying. Still the entire US manual back door concept is baffling to me as a European.
In fact in NYC. The door actually announces “Touch yellow tape to open doors”. NYC hasn’t had automatic doors for a while. Their new payment system was supposed to allow all door boarding but it’s slow to roll out.
Nope. Front door only. Until I let them off
The only reason I yell "back door" is because the bus is at my stop and the green light ain't even on
Our New Flyer Industries buses back doors are easy to open, our new 2022 Novas would take a few mins to open the back door but I still touch it gently and it's open. 2014 to 2016 Nova back doors could open with just a gently touch.
In London, people have to board the bus on at the front door, and people get off on the back door. The drive has a separate switch for each door
In New York City, MTA bus operators have the option to unlock the rear doors, and open the rear doors fully. They also have a audio that when the rear doors are open, it says " Touch yellow tape to open doors ". But people still get confused on why they don't open.
I say back door please 3 times n then I start kicking my way through , then it magically opens up lol
Well sometimes you actually have to yell back door when the driver forgets to turn the greenlight on
There are times when I have the interlock on with the green light and some people stare at the door for a couple of seconds not knowing what to do and come all the way to the front (extra long journey on an articulated bus) to exit. Drives me up the wall lol
Even on the old RTS buses with the same feature when the green light comes on, the passenger walks to the rear door and will scream out, "Back Door!" I'm like, "Come on, there's instructions right there!" The sticker clearly says "wait for light then open door." On the bars it reads, "Push bar to open door."
Happens everytime. Our backdoors don't have that type of feature. They just work when the operator turns the door switch position. The door is opening, some with delays or you don't noticed and get hit with the "BACK DOOR." Or they won't request a stop even when approaching a major transit stop then they get mad at you for giving them the next stop.
Also, Happy Birthday!! Thank you for sharing us the bus driving moments ad an operator. It certainly entertains us all!
Thanks!!
same thing here in Nashville, the exit door has to be opened by the driver
You know what's hilarious and it happens to every bus driver say youre tired having a long day and you forget that they rung the bell and keep going past the passengers stop. The screams of Torture stoooop lol 😆
I hate when that happens lol
So true. Some drivers open rear doors and some don't. I ride buses everyday and when the light comes on and doors don't open passengers yell back door when theres a button that says open like they don't know what to do. It's so annoying when they don't look for the button to open the rear door.. In the state I'm in there's 2 buttons by the rear door. 1 for stop request and 1 for open the doors. It's quite simple.
Cool a bus driver channel. Appreciate the information you give us. I just talked to my friend and his dad over the phone today, his dad is a Seattle, WA bus driver. I am a over the road semi truck driver based from Los Angeles, CA.
Nice!! Welcome!!
In London usually you press the bell and wait till you get to your stop and then the bus driver will open the rear door for you but if the bus driver refuses or forgots, you can tell the bus driver nicely to open the door and the bus driver should open the rear doors or there's the emergency door open button that you can use to open the rear door yourself.
It’s so simple I’m watching a 20 minute UA-cam video on operating a bus door!
as a brit. this is innovative.
here the rear doors just open whenever you stop at a bus stop in london and the rest of our country mostly has 1 door buses
In london. no matter what, the bus driver will always open the backdoor since everyone in london is used to exiting threw them. they were brought to london buses to speed up boarding and alighting but even if its at a bus stop with no passengers, Commuters will still exit threw the rear doors. We recently had to stop the new route masters with 3 doors due to fair bunkers. The bus was suppose to replace bendy buses which had the same problem but didnt rly help. Now you can only enter threw the front door on any bus.
Great video! I’m a railroad enthusiast so this is cool to watch for a change! Greetings from northern VA.
Nice!! Glad to have you here!!
For us in the Netherlands we need to wait for the driver to open any door of the bus.
I gotta be honest i live in a small town here in n.e.indiana...i have never been on public transit and honestly i hope to never be on it but you my friend have some pretty entertaining yet very informative videos thanks...
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!!
You Stoopid for this one COLE 😂😂😂. But the struggle is real! People will literally stop and look at the door like it’s supposed to open by osmosis or something and get frustrated and storm out the front. You mad my day with this one bro 😎
🤣🤣🤣 Glad you enjoyed it!!
This is how our 2008-2009 D40/60LFR's do it (Except its a yellow strip you touch). Our XD40/60's are IDENTICAL to the one shown in the video. Our Nova LFS diesels/LFS CNG's have you wave near the door, and our 2001-2007 D40LF's have a push bar you push. so we have a variety in Calgary haha. nice vid! I have actually told people how to open it like if I see them struggling and the driver isn't doing anything in the first 5 seconds I say "you push/wave/hold the handle etc" haha
Good PSA.
In Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, some of the bus operators will open the rear doors for the passengers instead of having them opening the doors themselves (as well as keeping the back doors held open when at major bus stops or last stops).
So many times I hear "back door" when I ride the bus
I still remember first riding the bus when I just moved to Canada and didn't know I was supposed to push the door handles to open it since I grew up in Singapore where the bus rear door is opened by the driver just like the front door.
Oh man … this is so true when the drivers don’t unlock the back door, and even sometimes when they unlock them (and passengers don’t know to touch the bars). One of the challenges here in Madison, Wisconsin, is that some drivers will only unlock the door, some will fully open the door, and it’s lock of the draw on who will open or just unlock.
Hey, dude. thank you for explaining some of the subtleties to people. I am also a bus driver, but in Russia the system here is not the same as yours, but the principle is the same (entrance through the front door exit through the back) everything in order for passengers to pay for travel
If I hear another passenger yell back door driver I'm going to say all you got to do is push the door handles 🤣🤣🤣
Buses where I live, even our brand new order of 2022’s, omit this feature. I’m really not sure why either. Servicing the door yourself when the driver is taking fare or giving someone directions saves them the added time of reaching over to flip a door switch when you could open it yourself.
It’s insignificant, sure, but the seconds add up and eventually you’re behind when you encompass traffic and traffic lights into the situation.
Great video as always, my man.
With our Nova buses the door switch won't open the back doors if the sensor back there thinks the bus is still moving. So throwing the switch too fast gets the "back door" calls. Have to count to 5... which also gets the "back door" calls.
Your rear doors remind me of the ones we used to have in Adelaide, South Australia. From memory the only place in Australia to have doors where you had to push them open
In Australia, depending on how many people are exiting via the back door, it may or may not open. Some adelaide buses the back door used to open like shown in the video. Some states now the back door, passengers can board the bus at controlled bus stops.
On 1:47 sometimes it happens on BCT when I ride to school and work.
Great video Keywan. Your doors are quite interesting. Here in London they just open when the driver presses the button and are sliding doors.
Used to operate Nabis that had the setup where you hit a yellow strip to open the door if you hit anything but that strip the whole door Jams I dreaded operating those buses for that reason
Haha, this was great! I haven't experienced any passenger like this while I'm riding the bus; but I'm actually convinced ours doesn't have that option. The driver always opens the back door. But, I'll have to check it out when I ride again and see if we do
London really does have it easy 😂
Great Video Kewan! For all you brothers out there..DO NOT hold the back door open so your crew/partners/friends /posse/vatos/shorties/bro's can enter the bus for FREE! This is not what the back door is for. (-; When I rode the bus in San Diego I saw this so many times particularly during the school year.
MTA started to force "Bus driver is not allowed to open rear door until passenger ask for rear door. This doesnt apply to BRT (Select Bus Service)
It really doesn't work sometimes. I use all 79 tricks the 114 drivers taught me, and still the door just won't open. So I pull up my pants and go out the front.
Then you close it and start driving off! Aw man.
i love captain obviuos
Touching a handle (which I presume operates through some sort of electrical circuit) is likely to be a very low wear-&-tear way of operating a door, but is not particularly intuitive if it's your first time doing it.
The buses in London have 2 doors, both automatic, & you're not allowed to get off through the front door.
@Paul Smith : The Swedish railways are obsessed with those.
I really wish that Philadelphia had automatic rear doors
Usually here, the driver will open the back door if they know someone's getting off, or if not someone usually ends up saying "Back door please!" (for instance, they decide walking to their destination is easier than waiting for the next stop)
Do you guys not have stop buttons on your buses?
@@drdewott9154 Nah. Cords though, yes.
@@codfish1113 Cords? Seriously? We haven't had those in my country at least since the end of the streetcars 50 years ago
“WHEN THE GREEN LIGHT COMES ON. PRESS. THE YELLOW. HANDLE. OR THE TAPE. WHATEVER IS YELLOW, PRESS IT” 😂
The buses here have a back door that’ll open automatically, think it’s for a certain amount of time… then it’ll close, there’s some buses we’ve got that only has one door, idk if it’s still being used since it’s been a while since I’ve seen one, but there’s some buses that only have one door, and that’s only up front
Green means go 💚
The busses i drive you flip a switch that's sets either Passenger or driver controll of rear door... i always set to driver.. The buttons on the door do nothing when in Driver position.. Our door controll has 5 positions and we can open the back door with same controll as front... or BOTH .. closing either in in order we choose
Is that an electric bus your in? We mostly have New Flyers 40' a few NABI 45' and some 60' arctic's that they're slowly replacing with 60' New Flyers. Some divisions have 40' El Dorados and none have anything posted about touching the handle on the back door to open. I think MTA does it to prevent an injury and of course a lawsuit. Don't think I've ever even heard of that feature. Interesting. Thanks for the upload brother. Be safe!
Nah. That’s a Gillig, perhaps with hybrid engine, but definitely not electric only. :)
With the New Flyers, in addition to the Green light over the door, there is a button on the pole at the rear door for passengers to open the rear door
I really do not like rear doors like this because they close automatically. People get caught in them often and some customers think the driver did it purposely or accidentally. I prefer the doors the driver has to open and close by the door handle on the control panel.
All Bee-Line buses have those doors that are only driver controlled.
The driver is capable of keeping the rear door open until passenger leaves but they don't
Our New 2022 Novas back door would take a min to open just gently touch it like 2 times and it would open.
Problem is that some people stand in the way of those doors - if the driver opens them they can get hit.
@@stephcurry2350 ya - no
Hey there Kiwan, I hope I spelled your name right, I love your videos, and as a frequent bus commuter here in the city of Orlando with Lynx, I have a couple of cents to add to the whole back door debate on why some passengers call out to the driver to open the back door. I am not sure how big the route network is for Sacramento's bus system, but with Lynx here in Orlando, the network is MASSIVE covering across three counties and roughly around a hundred different bus routes. From taking the Lynx buses for over 5 years now, upon further observation, a lot of drivers that do arrive to stops we have requested, and have passengers trying to board the bus at the same time, the majority of the time is that drivers will forget to unlock the back door for us trying to exit the bus. If I ever am in that scenario when I have no choice but to exit through the back door, and the back door is still locked, of course I'm gonna give a shout to the driver, but on a friendlier tone and thank them upon stepping off of the bus, as I do understand that being a bus driver isn't an easy job. That's probably most likely the case of why passengers shout to the driver about the back door is because some other drivers forget to unlock the back door upon arriving at a bus stop that was requested. Hope you have a great day & drive safely!
That’s totally understandable. If it’s not unlocked you will have to alert the driver. I’m mainly talking about when it’s unlocked we still get folks who scream back door. It happens a lot. I appreciate you watching the videos!! I actually plan on visiting Orlando in 2023 for a couple of bus/transit conventions.
Never seen this on a bus. I’ve closed more than a few peeps in the back door though! We loaded through both doors.
My company still has buses with the push out type doors. The trick is to push outwards on the yellow handle and keep pushing to open the door. There are at least two signs with instructions on how to open the door. As this type of bus is being withdrawn (only five left) it's been amusing watching passengers forget how to open the door. Frequently I have to instruct "push yellow handle outwards"... As an aside, if passengers would use the expression "back door please", its much nicer for the driver.
Nova buses are the worst with the "touch to open" doors. People don't know what that means and they push hard or tap quickly and then start screaming the back door when it doesn't open.
Hi folks, many thanks for your interesting and very entertaining clip! I don't understand the complexity with doors in the US! When I went to NYC 20 years ago, I encountered the same problematic! Here in Europe you just open the door with a button next to the door which is also used to request a stop!It is also worth mentioning that if the driver gives the door free, it is fully passenger operated. There is a button next to the door as well as outside .Once nobody uses the door for, say 10 seconds, it closes automatically. If the doors needs to be reopened again, either button in or outside needs to be pushed Most buses have two rear doors! Sometimes there is even information which says to push the button to open doors. A remark to ticketing: in Switzerland there is mainly self-service on buses that means you enter by any door, if need be, you can buy the ticket from the driver, paying even with credit cards! Sometimes there will be a ticketing machine onboard the bus. There are random ticket controls, the fine for the first time caught without ticket is a 100.-- Swiss-Francs, equivalent to Dollars. In recidive cases the fine is augmented. The system seems to be working! Greetings from Switzerland!
True but on Mta it’s sad we still have to say back door even with the new buses lol
They should have this video Playing on the bus the way I see these people banging their heads all over the bus and screaming for the back door to open 😂
as a frequent commuter, I can feel your frustration 😂
😆
I didn't know you could open the back door as a passenger. Maybe it's because my County's Transit buses don have this feature. Next time I ride my local bus I'll check it out. Thanks for the Info, as always a great video.
No problem. And yes some agencies just have the drivers open the rear door..a lot of places have both options.
You cant when I'm driving as I set the controls so i have the options ... its a setting in the bus for me as driver
My local transit system has operator controlled back doors. There's no way for the passengers to open them.
in my area back door opens if driver opens it
Here in Israel we have manual back doors, and the more modern ones even have a sensor that detects if there is someone there and does absolutely nothing with this information. 100% manual
the door controls on our buses look slightly different than the one at 0:50, they have positions for front, both, and rear only, and there's no way for passengers to control the rear door
Yo, can you make a video on snacks or foods to bring to work to help you eat on the bus and stay full
I’m in Utah and we have gillegs but they don’t have a light the driver has to use their switch every time to open the front and back door
Bee-Line (Westchester County Bus System in NY) uses Orion, NABI, and New Flyer buses and the back doors on all of them are driver controlled. Those cannot be opened by the passengers.
Thanks! I’m definitely talking about the rear doors that have both options like most transit systems have.
@@BusDriverLife yeah. I’m a fan of those more than the driver controlled ones.
Can you make videos concerning articulated buses, and misconceptions?
Until I had driven one... i was worried about doing so.. now i Love them more than 40 ft bus
@@williamhaynes7089 My theory on driving articulated buses is that you're driving a shorter bus with a trailer. Does that sound right? The only driving experience I have is Bus Simulator 2018 and 2021.
@@maiki5962 the front piece is 5 feet shorter and the back part follows front very close.. if you drive the standard bus it would take you about 20 mins to get used to the 60ft bus
@@williamhaynes7089 Funny. The amount of time to get used to an articulated bus what is the difference between the lengths of them. Lol
Remember. You control the bus, the bus is not control you.
On SEPTA, we gotta shout for the back door. They always open the front door, but never the back. And as far as I've seen, we don't have the light to push.
Really? I’m gonna ask my friend that works for SEPTA. Thanks for sharing.
@@BusDriverLife Please let me know what you find out! If I find out there is a push door, I'm gonna be so happy.
1:47 I live in New Orleans and ride the bus often. And I've seen passengers do that several times. I just laugh at them. I be wishing that I could record them...But maybe they see the next bus they gotta catch and need to quickly get off to run to the Bus Stop. 🤷️
Well, sometimes drivers don’t unlock the doors lol
True. However..even when we do..people yell sometimes.
The interlock on most of these buses is made to open these doors completely without having to have them shout at you, completely engage the interlock,most of these Mta buses have that feature,also when doing the night bus runs,you do not want to engage it all the way to allow homeless people sneaking in.
I remember my first time i found out you can open the door with your hands and i hit my head on the door a couple times still to this day i still hit myself when i keep forgetting oh yeah he/she wouldn't do it because some would open the back door
LOL..... I swear this needs to be a requirement to riding the bus..... because so many people don't get it lmao
quick question
what do you think of the reduced fare program? as a bus driver
I'm not a driver but i do ride the bus and I ask to open back door because sometimes the door doesn't open and i don't want to miss my stop so i ask to open the door or walk to the front just to be safe
I love telling them the doors don't open if you push on them * then flips switch *
Here in Cleveland, OH, our back doors have always been controlled by the driver. The door opener has Back, Closed, Front & Front & Back labels. Right now in Cleveland we have Gillig BRT Plus (both Diesel & CNG), and NABI buses (which are being phased out now that Triskett Garage finally got their CNG tanks), and New Flyer 60ft (both Diesel & CNG Hybrid). Some cities do have push to open, but we never have here in Cleveland. I see someone in the comments talk about fare evasion, you are not allowed to enter thru the back doors here, Our Cleveland RTA is enter the front, exit the rear. But we still have old school fareboxes or the app you must show the driver since the buses don't have scanners. Currently only our Heavy Rail trains are on the trust system (which you can literally take anywhere without paying unless you go Downtown where they check). Our Light Rail trains you still have to pay when you enter eastbound or pay when you get off westbound. Our Healthline BRT was on the trust system but they pout fareboxes back on because of fare evasion.
Cleveland back doors are easy to open, especially your Gillig BRT Plus CNG and diesel buses.
New York City is not allowing rear doors to open right now because of fare jumpers. I wonder how long that's going to last. They said they're losing 12 million dollars a week to fare jumping on the buses as well as the subways.
I read about that! Interesting situation!
The problem is the driver controls when the rear door is active, and doesn't always activate it. By the time I've waited for the door to open, pushed on it once to try to get it to open and had nothing happen, then looked to the front of the bus to see whether the driver has noticed and _now_ activated the door to allow it to open, enough time has passed that I've missed my stop and the bus is already in motion. If it's just a block or two to the next stop it's not a problem, but when it's a ten minute ride to the next stop it and you're on a schedule or trying to transfer, it becomes something much bigger.
Being an introvert I don't generally shout at the driver and just avoid transit whenever I can, but I can understand why people _do_ shout to make sure it doesn't happen to them.
As a European this stuff is just really alien and weird as every time a stop is requested, the driver will open the back door. Heck over here buses with 3 doors are extremely common as it helps with getting people off the bus faster, spending less time at stops and being able to more closely stick to the timetable. Heck in my own local area we have a ton of Iveco Crossway LE models, some with 2 doors a front and middle, and others with 3, a front middle and smaller back door behind the rear axle. The difference on deboarding a full bus at the train station from a 2 door and a 3 door bus can be as much as 30 seconds, as I've often found 3 doors buses emptied in just 12 or so seconds while a 2 door bus would take upwards of 40 seconds to do the same. Plus the driver is often trained to close the door as soon as the last exiting passenger is out, leaving no time for people to rush in through the back as the doorway the entire time will be blocked by people exiting the bus. Simple ebb and flow.
And thats not mentioning stuff like how some cities or routes allow for all door boarding.
Thanks for sharing!
Most passengers can't even read the giant destination signs on the buses and you expect them to be able to read the "push to exit" signs on the doors. You have clearly set your standards way too high.
Wow…I guess you just told me! 🤣
Not our fault if they can't follow/see simple instructions (green light is on, They'll be alright! 🤣🤦🏽♀️😎
Isn't it funny how when no one is at the stop, the passengers always go out the back door? And when there are several people are at the stop, the passengers always wanna go out the front.
Yup! Lol
That door has 10 signs on it and the most important ones are not at the sight level. Not sure how are you expecting people to visually process 10 signs on a split second.
I never said I expect someone to process 10 signs in a split second. Normally people approach the door before the bus even stops so that leaves enough time to scan the door for info. Honestly in most cases regular passengers already understand how it works but they still give drivers a difficult time. I understand though..I’m just a bus driver so I should just shut up and drive. 😎
@@BusDriverLife This is just my honest opinion as someone that lives in Europe. If I would have been in that bus I would have not seen or understood how to get off it. Here all I have to do is press a button that says "Stop" and the buss driver will stop at the next buss stop and open the rear door. It cannot be any easier than that.
Great content.
Thanks!!
They will not look at the door, that's not how the bus people do it. Bring back the days when the driver opened the back door and it closed as fast at a guillotine!
On go Raleigh buses they don’t have the option to do that. Only thing that has on the door “do not lean on door” and “caution stand back from door” on top of door it says “exit door” it’s also in Spanish. I even asked the bus driver he said unfortunately it doesn’t have anything like that. I always was a person that would exit the back of the bus but if the driver didn’t open it I would say back door and they didn’t here me I would jest go to the front door instead of jest standing back there because after you keep saying back door. You probably could have jest went out of the front door a couple of times over again.
Beautiful gillig advantage or brt…?
BRT
Baaacckkk ddooorrr😂😂😂😂
I drive a gillig everyday and we dont have that system. We just switch it open and close. People are so stupid that they start to yell back door but the bus is still in motion pulling into the bus stop.
The slogan here in philly is “back door d*ck head,” why idk 🤷♀️
The trolly ( street car ) you have to step down, haven’t been on a bus in a while tho.
How to open the rear door only without opening the front door?
These buses are pr*stitutes bcuz they are used by random ppl everyday so the touchpad area is worn & doesn't always respond as it should, which is how "BACK DOOR!" occurs 💯
The old buses are classic memories, where the doors used to flop around & you can hear the outside air seeping in & even sometimes, Pop goes the Wiesel! The doors randomly fly/pop open at red lighs and back closed..😭 Let's not forget when the doors didn't shut bcuz they got stuck in the snow bank bcuz the driver pulled too close & usually it was a brave passenger that pulled the doors to get it unstuck! 💪😂😂😂 ,💯
do you ever have people walk by your bus and look and go what the heck is that guy doing in there
All the time 😂 freaking people
That way of opening the door actually sucks I open it myself I don’t need the customers to push on the door once I click on the lever
very funny
I can never understand why ppl who are standing next to an open back door when the bus has stopped decide to go all the way to the front of the bus to get off