The Game That Killed Its Own Studio - The Tragedy of Haze

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
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    Founded in 1999 by former Rare developers who served as creative forces on GoldenEye 007 and Perfect Dark, developer Free Radical Design built what many consider among the most inventive first-person shooters of the 2000s. The TimeSplitters series especially set the world on fire with exciting time travel elements. Free Radical’s subsequent project, Second Sight, brought its own unique brand of thrilling gameplay to the table as well, courtesy of various psychic mechanics. The Nottingham-based group tried pushing the envelope further when designing Haze, a PlayStation 3 exclusive primarily remembered for playing a role in the studio’s collapse.
    Haze didn’t bear the look of an ill-fated project in the years leading up to its May 2008 release. On the contrary, Free Radical and publisher Ubisoft never seemed anything less than proud of the first-person shooter’s progress. And apart from minor technical concerns months before launch, previews and other public showings were met with predominantly positive reception.
    Free Radical possessed the right ingredients-a world-renowned development team known for producing seminal experiences, the backing of a major publisher, and a gameplay hook that married well with an intriguing futuristic plot. Unfortunately, technical shortcomings and other circumstances beyond the developers’s control greatly hindered their ability to deliver the final product as promised. Players instead found themselves navigating a stale experience that failed to uphold the standards established across Free Radical’s otherwise stellar pedigree. At its core, then, Haze constituted the result of a talented team doing its best with the inferior hand it was dealt.
    This is the tragedy of Haze.
    CHAPTERS
    0:00 Intro
    01:59 Sponsorship
    03:08 Shifting Tides
    05:25 Growing Pains
    07:36 A Game About War
    10:58 Halo Killer
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  • @GVMERS
    @GVMERS  2 роки тому +160

    Check out Dying Light, the game will be on 70% Sale between the 9th and 21st December! Check it out here wehy.pe/y/2/GVMERS #ad

    • @TheeCambion
      @TheeCambion 2 роки тому +6

      Do Killzone please 🥺

    • @MischaB1987
      @MischaB1987 2 роки тому +49

      "To celebrate the game's 30th anniversary" I didn't knowing Dying Light was THAT old! /s

    • @woldemunster9244
      @woldemunster9244 2 роки тому +3

      Dying light is dying apparently, even RAID: Shadow Legends would have been "better" sponsor. :DDD

    • @user-cg5dy5lk2t
      @user-cg5dy5lk2t 2 роки тому +1

      The rise and fall Need For Speed

    • @markoyamashitach
      @markoyamashitach 2 роки тому +6

      2:53 I don't get prompted to use the code during the buying process on Steam. Is this something you enter after purchasing the game?
      I have this game on PS4 but have been waiting for it to go on sale for PC. Best zombie game (single player) out there that delivers a open world, sandbox adventure. And, the developers have continued to update and add content which I find impressive. Now if only I could find where that code goes... 🤔

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 2 роки тому +1855

    "Ubisoft wanted quantity over quality"
    Some things never change.
    Unfortunately...

    • @Gruntvc
      @Gruntvc 2 роки тому +74

      Perfectly describes their current batch of games. Hard to believe I used to like them.

    • @xDrTomx
      @xDrTomx 2 роки тому +41

      This was the start of the end for Ubisoft. Back then, they were known for quality always. Ghost Recon series was good af

    • @kupokinzyt
      @kupokinzyt 2 роки тому +40

      @@xDrTomx Far Cry 3 was the downfall of it all.

    • @xDrTomx
      @xDrTomx 2 роки тому +46

      @@kupokinzyt was the ass creed series for me. How you gonna make a series called Assassins Creed and the only assassin we get is Altair, for ONE game.

    • @dani3po
      @dani3po 2 роки тому +32

      Such as the script of these videos. "A group of genius developers are forced by an evil corporation to create a terrible game".

  • @Pewpewpew182
    @Pewpewpew182 2 роки тому +939

    This was one of those games that you would see at a GameStop and think to yourself, “This looks interesting, I’ll wait till it’s $10 bucks.”
    The PS3, Wii and Xbox360 era had so many games like that. Still a great era though.

    • @cyphaborg6598
      @cyphaborg6598 2 роки тому +10

      This is really bad though

    • @iceytoa1
      @iceytoa1 2 роки тому +111

      I think the fact there were so many games like that, is what made that generation so good. You don't have singularity or vanquish tier games now, it's either 2D indie or AAA micro transaction mess :(

    • @tiagometallica007
      @tiagometallica007 2 роки тому +53

      @@iceytoa1 My words exactly. Good AA games that aren't worth 60 bucks just don't exist anymore outside the PC gaming space. Pretty sad really

    • @UmVtCg
      @UmVtCg 2 роки тому +9

      I got all 360 games from Newsgroups, which was pretty awesome. I remember playing Halo 3 and Fifa more than a month before release.

    • @eddy59ification
      @eddy59ification 2 роки тому +5

      Leon, I actually felt the exact same way. As a broke teen I didn't wanna take a chance on a new game when I was already familiar with COD and Battlefield, which were identical to what Haze was offering.
      Something about the color scheme threw me off as well, the bright yellow with black looks really unappealing.

  • @jakefoley9539
    @jakefoley9539 2 роки тому +1161

    "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Star Wars Battlefront 3? I thought not. It’s not a story EA would tell you. It’s a Free Radical legend. Battlefront 3 was a game in development, so anticipated and so ambitious that it could reinvent the very foundations of the series… It had such a knowledge of what players wanted that you could even fly from ground to space... without loading. Free Radical's game design was a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... really cool. It became so hyped… the only thing we were afraid of was it getting cancelled, which eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, it taught its apprentice Haze everything it knew, then Haze killed it in its sleep. Ironic. Its resources could get other games developed, but not itself." - Palpatine, 19BBY

    • @rickylovesyou
      @rickylovesyou 2 роки тому +12

      wat

    • @tylerdeskins7715
      @tylerdeskins7715 2 роки тому +22

      Lol some consider to be “really cool”

    • @MDPToaster
      @MDPToaster 2 роки тому +55

      @@rickylovesyou
      Free Radical was developing Star Wars Battlefront 3 along with Haze at the same time with split development teams.
      Star Wars Battlefront 3 while in development had a lot of technical issues and multiplayer was essentially impossible on all devices, leading to Lucas Arts to ask them to pull back on their vision of ground to space combat, the developers insisted they could fix the issues.
      They ended up over budget and falling way behind on development goals and couldn’t get multiplayer past 10 FPS.
      It’s speculated that the failure of Haze on a technical level is what gave Lucas Arts cold feet on the game and lead to the cancellation of the project.

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 роки тому +12

      @@MDPToaster I didn't know the multiplayer on Battlefront 3 was unplayable. Interesting did a developer say that in an interview? It should have been released on PC only but even back in 2008/2009 I think PC hardware could not have worked

    • @MDPToaster
      @MDPToaster 2 роки тому +17

      @@aceofhearts573
      Yeah there was an ex-dev that claimed the game was 98% finished and that Lucas Arts wanted a remake of the OG BF1+2 instead. However this was not true and the developer was treating the game as a passion project.
      Other devs have come out to contradict the completion percentage and place it around 30-40 and state the game was barely playable on single player.
      But there was a lot of completed assets for the game and they were put to use for the Battlefront 3 Legacy mod for Battlefront 2.

  • @strikeforce1500
    @strikeforce1500 2 роки тому +431

    Who would had thought that Haze was a preview into what most triple A games would turn into. Crappy deals for the studios, stupid deadlines, even stupider deals, and Publisher interfering with development. Just to cause the death of the studio, while the Publisher yeets the IP, so nobody else uses a similar idea

    • @ketrub
      @ketrub 2 роки тому +15

      turns out it was ahead of its time all along

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx 2 роки тому +16

      except that crap existed before this game - you are just more aware of it now (for various reasons)

    • @caidurkan2916
      @caidurkan2916 Рік тому +1

      @@xBINARYGODx yeah the general work environment of visual effects studios is one of many great examples, let alone cinema in general

  • @Gruntvc
    @Gruntvc 2 роки тому +510

    I still think the concept for Haze could've made for an excellent single player focused FPS. Shame it turned out this way and pretty killed Free Radical and their Timesplitters franchise.

    • @DantesGrill
      @DantesGrill 2 роки тому +17

      Deep Silver is working on a new Timesplitters so it's not completely dead, fortunately.

    • @Gruntvc
      @Gruntvc 2 роки тому +12

      @DantesGrill, Nice, is Dambuster Studio working on it? If I recall correctly, that's the one that was made up from Free Radical once Deep Silver picked them up from Crytek.
      I thought Homefront The Revolution was decent. But it was pretty cool they included the entire Timesplitters 2 single player as an Easter Egg in it.

    • @DantesGrill
      @DantesGrill 2 роки тому

      @@Gruntvc I have no idea actually. One of the devs said they where working on it in a youtube comment. I only made a background check to see if it was legit. But it's supposed to have a lot of the same team behind it. Tried to ask some about how the gameplay would be but he wasn't allowed to say anything yet. This was months ago though.

    • @rustedknight_
      @rustedknight_ 2 роки тому +4

      @@DantesGrill iirc, they've actually reformed FRD, although I think it's still under the control of one of the aforementioned studios

    • @bounceycake1
      @bounceycake1 2 роки тому +3

      The concept was great, but the game Spec Ops: The Line did better with that concept narritively

  • @RolfWrenWalsh
    @RolfWrenWalsh 2 роки тому +68

    I enjoyed the game quite a bit, but my all-time favorite moment was during the marketing.
    Writer Rob Yescombe was being interviewed at a trade show, and he just goes off on the guy:
    "Haze is not a war game!! Haze is a game about war!!"
    Okay dude.... Think you can chill a bit?
    My friend and I still quote it to this day, and I always like to remind him that if there is one fact of life that he must always remember no matter what, it's that Haze not a war game, it is a game about war. This knowledge must be bestowed upon generation after generation.

    • @fuzzyballs8726
      @fuzzyballs8726 Рік тому

      You don’t understand the statement. haze and the storyline was actually very in depth about the reality of war and focused more on the story rather than a typical shoot ‘em up fps that there were hundreds of in 2008

    • @RolfWrenWalsh
      @RolfWrenWalsh 10 місяців тому

      ​@@fuzzyballs8726Yes I understand that having played through the game several times, but it was just so hilarious how he just blew up on the journalist.

  • @ShiftJay08
    @ShiftJay08 2 роки тому +340

    I remember when the marketing for this game came out with all the trailers and developer diaries. I was just a kid back then and became obsessed with this game. I look back now and cringe lol. Still reminded of this wasted potential every now and then. Multiplayer was fun though.

    • @quinnmarchese6313
      @quinnmarchese6313 2 роки тому +16

      played a lot of the multiplayer with a friend back then. we didnt even take it seriously, our 'house rules' were basically playing hide and seek and then shooting each other in the back to cause an overdose.

    • @ElSoloNoco
      @ElSoloNoco 2 роки тому +9

      Same. I used to buy OPSM magazine each month religiously & the build up to this game was immense. It's one of the first games I can remember having such a huge build up and just dropping in price massively after it released.
      Such a shame what happened to Free Radical, all their games had a vibe about them where you could just tell it was made by them, the animation, the UI but the vibe in general. I remember being very dissapointed by this though, I can't remember if I rented it from Blockbuster or I bought it but it didn't feel like FR, it felt kinda just standard, lacking..

    • @theoroinvictus
      @theoroinvictus 2 роки тому +8

      I was in high school then, a good friend of mine and I would argue meaninglessly about Haze and Crysis, about which game would be superior in graphics or tech etc. good times

    • @lucignolo8333
      @lucignolo8333 2 роки тому +3

      @@theoroinvictus lmao same, here in italy haze was ine of the first titles with triple a marketing and we were all hyped as fuck, we would constantly argue if haze or kz2 would be better

    • @theoroinvictus
      @theoroinvictus 2 роки тому +2

      @@lucignolo8333 oh yes, we did a lot of arguing about KZ2 as well. we were so fooled by the infamous pre-rendered trailer, it's funny to look back on the trivial things we pointlessly argued about back then

  • @Casio163
    @Casio163 2 роки тому +136

    The best promotion this channel does is discussing the stories of video games and their making. After watching your videos on Sleeping Dogs, Dead Rising franchise, Spec Ops The Line, FEAR franchise and Bully, I bought the games and played them for the first time! Thank you for showing me some gems.

    • @Meekmillan
      @Meekmillan 2 роки тому +3

      God I want a remastered FEAR series

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 2 роки тому +323

    Not gonna lie the Dying Light sponsorship was unexpected.
    Partly because it is probably the first time I've ever seen an in video for a product that is actually relevant to the targeted audience while the product is actually good itself and not a rubbish mobile game.
    The other part is that it's Dying Light 1 being advertised not Dying Light 2. Guess Techland needed some extra capital to get DL2 over the finish line, lol.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 2 роки тому +43

      @@TheKarabanera I have no issue with them marketing it, just feels counterintuitive to market them previous game as we draw closer to the sequel's release day.

    • @MelAncholynus
      @MelAncholynus 2 роки тому +16

      It's also nice that they're marketing a 70% off sale.

    • @chadhardt6136
      @chadhardt6136 2 роки тому +28

      @@PlebNC the marketing focused on 1 is supposed to build a foothold into new players to later on sell you the second part, which if you enjoyed the first one, now you have the lore context and general feel of the franchise to persuade you to buy it, and since they are also going to give discounts to the first game, it makes it even easier to sell.

    • @Rexodiak
      @Rexodiak 2 роки тому +10

      True, seeing a video sponsored by a AAA game that's a few years old is a first for me, but I wouldn't mind it not being the last.
      Also, I swear I'm hearing "to celebrate the game's 30th anniversary" and the subtitles seem to agree on that lol

    • @vojtisekhovor
      @vojtisekhovor 2 роки тому +7

      @@PlebNC not at all actually, it's very well thought-out. once you play 1st one what will you be playing next huh? revenue is revenue and as you can see by Techland supporting their game for so long, it does not have to be all back in first week like with other scummy publishers

  • @aceofhearts573
    @aceofhearts573 2 роки тому +105

    Free Radical was actually killed by Lucasarts when they stopped funding of Battlefront 3. It was real bad because Lucasarta took out funding breaking the contract but since Free Radical was going under they knew Free Radical didn't have the money to take them to court so they closed down a few days before Christmas.

    • @butteredbread100
      @butteredbread100 2 роки тому +17

      And then Lucasarts was later killed off over Battlefront as well

  • @yttaf
    @yttaf 2 роки тому +26

    Bro can't believe dying light is 30 years old.

    • @jormilos
      @jormilos 2 роки тому +6

      Really though. It aged super well

    • @ketrub
      @ketrub 2 роки тому +2

      dying light aged so well it feels like it only released 6 years ago

    • @coredetta
      @coredetta Рік тому

      How??? That thing came out in 2015 💀

  • @oof239
    @oof239 2 роки тому +11

    2:42
    “To celebrate the game’s 30th anniversary…”
    I think you mean Techland’s 30th anniversary lol

  • @MrBubbles0o0o
    @MrBubbles0o0o 2 роки тому +129

    God Second sight was such a gem.. I miss playing it. I might start it up again soon.

    • @rookless4121
      @rookless4121 2 роки тому +4

      Dude, I remember playing that game with my gametap subscription lol

    • @Gruntvc
      @Gruntvc 2 роки тому +17

      Second Sight and Psi Ops The Mindgate Conspiracy were both good games that gave the player cool psychic powers.

    • @ElSoloNoco
      @ElSoloNoco 2 роки тому +4

      I was playing it not too long ago. Got as far as the asylum chapter but you know when you skip a few days, then it turns to weeks etc & it gets to a point where its been so long you'd just rather start again... Anyways great game 👌

    • @lucascoval828
      @lucascoval828 2 роки тому +1

      @@ElSoloNoco
      I hear that.

    • @stutheironman
      @stutheironman 2 роки тому +1

      Psi-Ops was also solid from the same time period

  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 2 роки тому +63

    Bought this one on discount a few years after its release out of curiosity, it was clunky and tiresome but I will say the attempt to subvert gung ho military FPS by intentionally shielding the players via mechanics before showing the grim reality of what's being done by the evil conglomerate and its doped pawns is an interesting take for a game. Good ideas poorly executed.

  • @tvsavery666
    @tvsavery666 2 роки тому +29

    Man this channel is so good. The narrator's voice is amazing and soothing, the content is quality documentary worth videos, just amazing work all around.

  • @slippytrippy8122
    @slippytrippy8122 2 роки тому +53

    I dont care if it failed, the idea of assymetrical gameplay with addicts vs people who can make you overdose is badass

  • @Hank280
    @Hank280 2 роки тому +47

    Dam dying lights 30 years old already! I bought it day 1, man I'm getting old.
    Awesome video as always guys I'm supporting you all the way and will continue to. Loving the more regular uploads!.

    • @BEARJEW427
      @BEARJEW427 2 роки тому +5

      Ughh what? Pretty sure it came out in 2015

    • @MelAncholynus
      @MelAncholynus 2 роки тому +2

      I bought it back in 2015 as well. But it was not until 2021 that I tried the expansion The Following. Had great fun with that one too.

    • @UmVtCg
      @UmVtCg 2 роки тому +1

      Lay off the crack

    • @Aurongel
      @Aurongel 2 роки тому +14

      @@UmVtCg They were referring to the narrator's ad copy flub(?) at 2:42

    • @Hank280
      @Hank280 2 роки тому +2

      Aurongel - Aurongal got it. Good man :D. 2:42

  • @RG-lh8xb
    @RG-lh8xb 2 роки тому +31

    Deep Silver could reintroduce a new Haze game as something like "Haze Redux" in spirit of their Apocalypse Now inspiration, and be totally within grounds to totally reinvent it while still having brand recognition 🤷

    • @mylittlepkle1714
      @mylittlepkle1714 2 роки тому

      "while still having brand recognition" what brand? Haze is not a brand and even if it was why would anyone want to remind potential customers of the garbage that was haze?

    • @RexcorJ
      @RexcorJ 2 роки тому

      @@mylittlepkle1714 "One man's trash..."

  • @AncestorEmpire1
    @AncestorEmpire1 2 роки тому +133

    They were so obsessed with killing Halo, all they had to do was wait a few years for Guardians to do that.

    • @Powerhouse1
      @Powerhouse1 2 роки тому +41

      People keep saying this, but Infinite is doing very well all things considered.

    • @AncestorEmpire1
      @AncestorEmpire1 2 роки тому +3

      @@Powerhouse1 very well so far, even with the micro transactions

    • @freddiejohnson6137
      @freddiejohnson6137 2 роки тому +48

      The thing is it was the gaming media that called it a Halo killer much like they did with the first Killzone. They seemed obsessed with something coming along that had to be a better Halo than Halo rather than being its own thing.

    • @Spartan_Jackal
      @Spartan_Jackal 2 роки тому +22

      @@EggEnjoyer yeah but 4's story was way better then 5's. multiplayer, not so much

    • @afd19850
      @afd19850 2 роки тому

      @@Spartan_Jackal100%

  • @36inc
    @36inc 2 роки тому +20

    man Ima cry; free radical was on eof my childhood favorites. time splitters was such a gem and second sight was an underrated experience. when haze killed them I was so sad.

    • @nightowlseclipse2421
      @nightowlseclipse2421 2 роки тому

      Free Radical are now reformed by Deep Silver to develop a new TimeSplitters game. The original creators David Doak and Steve Ellis are involved

  • @iv5539
    @iv5539 2 роки тому +6

    2:43 Can't believe it's almost 30 years since Dying Light released, it has aged beautifully.

    • @Chris-hs8zd
      @Chris-hs8zd 2 роки тому +2

      I thought I was the only one who caught that lol

    • @DanteDMCSparda
      @DanteDMCSparda 2 роки тому +1

      @@Chris-hs8zd its techland 30 year anniversary actually, dying light is 6 years old

    • @Chris-hs8zd
      @Chris-hs8zd 2 роки тому

      @@DanteDMCSparda thank you jack Marston we know that’s why yo pa got taken out by the Pinkertons

    • @DanteDMCSparda
      @DanteDMCSparda 2 роки тому

      @@Chris-hs8zd hey ! I already avenged my pa !

  • @halowillneverbegoodagain1868
    @halowillneverbegoodagain1868 2 роки тому +8

    Ah, I remember when Dying Light first released in 1991...

    • @fatmandoobius
      @fatmandoobius 2 роки тому

      lol Not just me that spotted that then

    • @chooky4626
      @chooky4626 2 роки тому

      Ran too fast on my 386 iirc

  • @recon0503
    @recon0503 2 роки тому +6

    2:40
    >Dying Light's 30th Anniversary is this Year
    Well Damn that games older than I thought

    • @jacobs4545
      @jacobs4545 2 роки тому +4

      You didnt play dying light on the NES?

  • @fernandoharada508
    @fernandoharada508 2 роки тому +9

    Rise and Fall of Killzone series, please!

    • @As_Asa_PhD
      @As_Asa_PhD 2 роки тому +1

      I want that too. I'd like to know more about the first Killzone. It's nice we got Horizon now though.

    • @jamescameron149
      @jamescameron149 2 роки тому +1

      I would also very much like to see this. It would be great if it got done. Fond memories...

    • @Raggyham
      @Raggyham 2 роки тому

      Yesss!!!

  • @Mattznick
    @Mattznick 2 роки тому +2

    I still can't believe in 2022 Free Radical Design is back from the dead and making a new Timesplitters game

  • @pete6705
    @pete6705 Рік тому +2

    I was so hyped for Haze before it came out, the media was talking about it like it was going to be the best FPS ever

  • @ALegitimateYoutuber
    @ALegitimateYoutuber 2 роки тому +54

    the craziest part about this was hearing golden eye got a score of 4. was it really that poorly reviewed? Because fucking hell I remember everyone loved it back then.

    • @thecandlemaker1329
      @thecandlemaker1329 2 роки тому +16

      It's a shooter for N64, 4 out of 10 is the best rating it can realistically aim for.

    • @matthewcheatham3322
      @matthewcheatham3322 2 роки тому +4

      Maybe someone somewhere gave it that but it was pretty beloved when it came out.

    • @Razgriz_01
      @Razgriz_01 2 роки тому +1

      @@EggEnjoyer If the game was made today, do you think they'll rate it higher because everyone loved it and they're afraid of backlash if they said negative things about it?

    • @porkman302
      @porkman302 2 роки тому +1

      Nah it was pretty well reviewed. That was just one reviewer. Both EGM and gamepro gave it glowing reviews

  • @awesomesource12
    @awesomesource12 2 роки тому +25

    I played haze on ps3 as a kid and really loved it, I still go back and play it now and always have fun with it, I think it's definetly a hidden gem and deserves a second chance

    • @lucignolo8333
      @lucignolo8333 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah it’s definitely a hidden gem with sone very interesting mechanics and wonderful designs for mantel soldiers.
      I think the marketing hyping it up so much did more damage than anything else, if it wasn’t publicized as a halo killer people would’ve loved it much more

    • @III1IlIIlIllIl
      @III1IlIIlIllIl Рік тому +1

      @@lucignolo8333 Halo killed itself. Have you seen the mess that is halo infinite? Forced crossplay and cringe skins.

    • @lucignolo8333
      @lucignolo8333 Рік тому +2

      @@III1IlIIlIllIl the only way to save halo is get rid of that cancer that is 343 industries and give the ip to a worthy studio

    • @steelbear2063
      @steelbear2063 10 місяців тому

      ​@@III1IlIIlIllIl
      Have you played Halo Infinite lately? It's great

  • @gingerbrummie
    @gingerbrummie 2 роки тому +6

    Rise and fall of the Red faction series please

  • @InceRumul
    @InceRumul 2 роки тому +2

    This voice could be describing the history of manilla envelopes and I'd still be captivated.

  • @profanegunman7586
    @profanegunman7586 2 роки тому +7

    I legitimately enjoyed Haze all the way through when I played it all those years ago, I guess there's something wrong with me. The same way people have nostalgia for Golden Eye, I have nostalgia for Haze, which I'm sure would freak some people out.

  • @heykeiffers6684
    @heykeiffers6684 2 роки тому

    This channel is like watching a world war documentary but for video games. I love it

  • @someaccount659
    @someaccount659 2 роки тому +1

    Just discovered your channel. These videos are so interesting and well put together, subscribed

  • @stevenhay7147
    @stevenhay7147 2 роки тому +5

    It's just crazy how one bad game is enough to send a talented studio under

    • @unfa00
      @unfa00 2 роки тому +3

      Game development is a rocky adventure.

  • @TheFreestylevids
    @TheFreestylevids 2 роки тому +4

    REMEMBER YOUR PROMISE TO MERINNNNOOO

    • @Ghost_Of_SAS
      @Ghost_Of_SAS 2 роки тому +2

      This is the day Mantel falls.

  • @PancakeInu
    @PancakeInu 2 роки тому +22

    I think I remember they called this the "Halo killer" back when it was released.

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 роки тому +4

      I remember that too. Funny thing the halo killer game ended up being halo 4 and 5

  • @Trap7
    @Trap7 2 роки тому +2

    "Say hello to Moreno!"

  • @decibelfilm
    @decibelfilm 2 роки тому +2

    I'm calling it; one of the big videos next year is going to be 'The Rise and Fall of Dying Light'.

  • @freddiejohnson6137
    @freddiejohnson6137 2 роки тому +29

    Well looks like Free Radical is getting a second shot with David Doak and Steve Ellis at the helm under Deep Silver as the publisher for a new Time Splitters game. Not many publishers get a chance to be resurrected like that.

    • @victoriaevelyn3953
      @victoriaevelyn3953 2 роки тому +2

      Oh no not deep silver otherwise known as deep shit becuase anything involving them turns to shit I will explode if they fuck up my favourite franchise as much as I want another timesplitters I dont want a shit tinespiltters

    • @Razgriz_01
      @Razgriz_01 2 роки тому

      Oh shit not Deep Silver. Aren't they the ones under Epic's payroll? I remember being excited for Metro: Exodus, until they announced, near the game's release, that it'll be taken off Steam and be an EGS exclusive. Its like a Monkey Paw wish.

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 роки тому +1

      @@Razgriz_01 nah Epic actually paid them a few million for the time exclusive rights. I cant blame any dev that takes the money from epic. Everyone would

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 роки тому

      I wish they would do a Time Splitters HD for games 1-3

    • @vojtisekhovor
      @vojtisekhovor 2 роки тому +1

      @@aceofhearts573 oh shit even Epic is involved, that's gonna suck oh god

  • @bleedthesecolours
    @bleedthesecolours 2 роки тому +54

    I will defend Haze until the day I die. So many great memories playing co-op with a friend, we must have beat the campaign over a dozen times. Can't forget the competitive modes too, this was actually the first game that I played versus online and realised I was pretty decent.

    • @botmushin8878
      @botmushin8878 2 роки тому +4

      I recall it being an okay game. I ended up buying Fracture instead of Haze.. I had fun but I'd say they're both on the same level (Fracture was definitely more comedic).

    • @bleedthesecolours
      @bleedthesecolours 2 роки тому +3

      @@botmushin8878 Oh yeah, for sure they were both interesting concepts with that 'janky, bargain bin guilty pleasure' curse 😅

    • @nathanduncan672
      @nathanduncan672 2 роки тому +6

      I for whatever reason loved this game, & I cant really pinpoint why I replayed it repeatedly. The concept is unique as fuck & I'm surprised a better game hasn't reused the nectore gimmick. Overdosing in multiplayer made for some fun shoot outs

    • @maow9240
      @maow9240 2 роки тому +3

      I never understood the hate for this game. I didn't get a chance to play it untill the multi-player had already died but solo it as just another average FPS that had pretty good visuals for its time.

    • @bleedthesecolours
      @bleedthesecolours 2 роки тому +5

      @@maow9240 I think you just answered your question. While the few of us loved Haze for whatever reason, it was overhyped and (despite its unique points) turned out to ultimately be an average game which I think hurts more than if it was obviously average from the pre-release promos.

  • @unfa00
    @unfa00 2 роки тому +5

    Takeaway: if you have limited time and budget, don't develop a custom engine and the game on it at the same time.

  • @-----------g-
    @-----------g- 2 роки тому +3

    Who remembers the KoRn song for this game? Was the hypest thing about it.

  • @salaciouscreations4323
    @salaciouscreations4323 2 роки тому +1

    One of the biggest crimes in computer games history is the lack of timesplitters. Haze was around the timeshift and pariah when studios appeared a bit more shook up from far cry being so amazing for a console port. We had a few out there games which were ok. Just never got any traction which is a shame as exclusive can have a damaging effect on some classics.

  • @greatestgamer00
    @greatestgamer00 2 роки тому +9

    I love haze. after finding out who they devs were i could see the elements of their old games.

  • @ElManuHDD
    @ElManuHDD 2 роки тому +2

    The good thing about all this is that Free Radical Design is back thanks to Deep Silver and will develop a new game of Timesplitters

  • @theactualTVB
    @theactualTVB 2 роки тому +18

    The 2000s was a great decade for video games. Gaming slowly went downhill by mid-2010s.

    • @dimaz3
      @dimaz3 2 роки тому +5

      Nah. Some of the best games are being released nowadays. From indie developers like Supergiant to Remedy getting back into limelight, Arkane, IO etc etc.

    • @theactualTVB
      @theactualTVB 2 роки тому +7

      @@dimaz3 I'm only talking about most third party developers, actually. Also Remedy isn't that much of an indie dev.

    • @thecandlemaker1329
      @thecandlemaker1329 2 роки тому +1

      If it wasn't for Dark Souls and its kids, I think I would've completely abandoned gaming by now.

    • @-pressxtostart-
      @-pressxtostart- 2 роки тому

      Pfft

  • @DaTrixie
    @DaTrixie 2 роки тому

    Great video, had high hopes for Haze. Also your voice reminds me of the "Fallout Storyteller" . Very relaxing 😊

  • @ether92
    @ether92 2 роки тому +3

    All I can remember from this game is Nectar.

  • @brizzy1237
    @brizzy1237 3 місяці тому

    currently rewatching all of your content

  • @BoondockGore
    @BoondockGore 2 роки тому

    Your work on the socom series had me so nostalgic 😢 😭

  • @Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime
    @Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime 2 роки тому

    Hey congratulations on 100 videos on your channel and I subscribed.

  • @Lasagnaisprettycool
    @Lasagnaisprettycool 2 роки тому +3

    Imagine if they released a new Timesplitters for the PS5 and Xbox. Beautiful graphics, vibrant colors, super smooth framerates, splitscreen and online coop and pvp, map editor....

    • @chooky4626
      @chooky4626 2 роки тому

      It'd release as Early Access with a battlepass and/or some other bs :(

  • @Beanibirb
    @Beanibirb 2 роки тому +2

    Free Radical is back btw, making a TimeSplitters remake

  • @thecandlemaker1329
    @thecandlemaker1329 2 роки тому +91

    I think the real villain of this story is, for once, not UbiSoft, but the fad for "serious military shooters". As soon as I saw the game's dreary footage composed of 50 shades of brown, I knew the game must have been ass.

    • @aceofhearts573
      @aceofhearts573 2 роки тому +14

      Well today we have a fad of fortnite looking games

    • @canobenitez
      @canobenitez 2 роки тому +8

      Black is the only exception for me, good old ps2 goodness

    • @dvdbox360
      @dvdbox360 2 роки тому +2

      @@canobenitez what about Spec Ops The Line, and yes i do play Black before the graphic is ahead of it time a year before first Crysis

    • @imembridibuddha
      @imembridibuddha 2 роки тому +6

      @@aceofhearts573 Serious brown shooters >>>>>>>>>>> cartoony art and over the top weapon skins

    • @blitzaurora3393
      @blitzaurora3393 2 роки тому

      The sad part is, the tech demo for the game was still awesome. When the game came out, the only feature still left from that demo was the ability to scope in on some weapons

  • @QuixEnd
    @QuixEnd 2 роки тому

    Whoever you hire for voice acting is too professionally gifted for gaming. I mean, he sounds like the dude history channel hires for every wwii conspiracy series.

  • @unbearifiedbear1885
    @unbearifiedbear1885 2 роки тому +1

    Yes! Was just talking with someone yesterday about this *utter* disappointment.. such a cool concept, man
    Haze and Bodycount changed the way I anticipate things forever

  • @mohamednail1707
    @mohamednail1707 2 роки тому +19

    Haze is an example of cool idea and plot executed so poorly

  • @interlace84
    @interlace84 2 роки тому +23

    Out of respect for this fallen game and dev as well as my twice-resurrected-yet-still-fallen-ps3; I'm gonna replay this in RPCS3 now you reminded me of its existence :) so thanks!!

    • @SECONDQUEST
      @SECONDQUEST 2 роки тому +5

      Do timeshift as well.

    • @VandelayH
      @VandelayH 2 роки тому

      No youare’re not.

    • @kupokinzyt
      @kupokinzyt 2 роки тому +3

      @@SECONDQUEST TimeShift is so much better.

  • @Ghost_Of_SAS
    @Ghost_Of_SAS 2 роки тому +2

    _"Remember your promise to Merino!"_

  • @busgussab881
    @busgussab881 2 роки тому +1

    Love the dying light ad around 7 years from the games release

  • @freewheeler8924
    @freewheeler8924 2 роки тому +9

    I very much enjoyed Haze. I particularly loved the tactical gameplay - it was a game you could play intelligently, and not just another stupid twitch-shooter.

  • @Layaway_Virgin
    @Layaway_Virgin 2 роки тому

    Damn an add for Dying Light like 7 years late! This made my day.

  • @mikeyder344
    @mikeyder344 2 роки тому +4

    The games 30th anniversary? I love y'all lol

  • @CreativeWM_Personal
    @CreativeWM_Personal 2 роки тому +1

    Devon: Shane? Please don't tell my mommy what I did, Okay?
    Shane: Okay pal

  • @fernan2342
    @fernan2342 2 роки тому

    High quality upload as always!

  • @keshxiv
    @keshxiv 2 роки тому +2

    HAZE BROS ITS OUR TIME...

  • @stoneprevious4294
    @stoneprevious4294 2 роки тому +1

    2:41 How time flies

  • @Majjoo06
    @Majjoo06 2 роки тому

    “Brought to you by Dying Light !”
    Man techland is reaching places, if they’re sponsoring channels now.

  • @adamfrazer5150
    @adamfrazer5150 2 роки тому

    It's stories like these that I always think of whenever the latest game is out and underperforming (I know, practically all the titles coming out of the wealthiest publishers 😒) and I'm tempted to start firing broadsides at the studio !
    No one sets out to make a sub-par game, but often it's the people with the creativity that are the more exploitable. You went public and made tons on shares but now you're at the beck and call of the investors, and they couldn't give a rat's backside whether the game has a good story or is faithful etc nope, they're waiting to hear words like :
    Multiplayer
    Seasons
    Season Pass
    Cosmetics
    Licensed tie-ins
    Live Service
    Predicted revenue
    Revenue
    Where's our money ?
    Thanks for putting this together man, really appreciate your production values 👌

  • @lordgrimble2144
    @lordgrimble2144 2 роки тому +2

    you guys should do a video about the Army Of Two series!

  • @bartvy
    @bartvy 2 роки тому

    Remember really enjoying playing the coop splitscreen campaign with my friends back in the day.

  • @iratepirate3896
    @iratepirate3896 2 роки тому +44

    I remember this. Such a shame it died because of the grey and brown bloom nonsense of the mid-2000s

    • @IronThumbs
      @IronThumbs 2 роки тому +3

      I guess you should blame Silent Hill 2 and Resident Evil 4 for that

    • @tomstonemale
      @tomstonemale 2 роки тому +5

      @Crispies lol no. Those games can even be compared to influence CoD had on consoles, not even close.

    • @IronThumbs
      @IronThumbs 2 роки тому +5

      @@tomstonemale He is talking about the overly saturated market of games that lack "color" from that time. Call of Duty 4 is one of them, but not the one responsible.

    • @brandonjones5879
      @brandonjones5879 2 роки тому +4

      I think the first Gears kind of started that.

    • @tomstonemale
      @tomstonemale 2 роки тому +2

      @@IronThumbs not really.Sure unreal engine 3 games have the same colour pallette but when CoD 4 and MW2 make 70% of the profit from videogame console market alone those years, yeah I blame CoD for making the grey, brown and bloom colour scheme popular.

  • @richardhowells5804
    @richardhowells5804 2 роки тому

    I remember being hyped for this back in the day, when I was daft enough to get hyped about a game from it's trailers.

  • @Robinbermann
    @Robinbermann 2 роки тому

    I had second sight on the tip of my tongue sooooo long, thanks for clearing that up!

  • @b3ans4eva
    @b3ans4eva 2 роки тому +1

    Epic narrator guy returns.

  • @nix98zlcy
    @nix98zlcy Рік тому

    Sees title*
    ''Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?''

  • @zeldris9993
    @zeldris9993 2 роки тому +1

    Always love these vids always entertaining to watch☺

  • @CM-hz2wr
    @CM-hz2wr 2 роки тому +1

    Haze was marketed as a " Halo killer " it turned into a Free Radical killer

  • @IntoxiKaded
    @IntoxiKaded 2 роки тому +1

    I've been waiting for this video for a long time!!!
    Haze had many problems but I always felt like the story had great potential. I hope it gets rebooted one day.

  • @darkowl9
    @darkowl9 Рік тому

    "So we decided to write a game engine from the ground-up as the same time as developing the game" is just such a common reason for studio collapses, it boggles the mind how frequently it's heard.

    • @dmer-zy3rb
      @dmer-zy3rb Рік тому

      doing your own engine was normal in the 90s and still relatively common in the ps2 era - some devs kept that mentality in the ps3 generation.

  • @JoelElRican
    @JoelElRican 2 роки тому +1

    Timesplitters is a classic for me and my little brother, during our childhood. Kinda wish it would get rebooted.

    • @TheRoger46
      @TheRoger46 2 роки тому

      Well you might be happy to hear that Free Radical is back with a lot of the original team and they are currently working on a new Timesplitters project!

  • @victoriaevelyn3953
    @victoriaevelyn3953 2 роки тому +2

    I love timesplitters and still own all my three copies of the three games they will never leave me haze killed timesplitters 4 in my eyes

  • @MontaguStudios
    @MontaguStudios 2 роки тому

    Terrific video as always. However, you forgot to mention about Korn. They made a song for the game.

  • @haidershahzad2029
    @haidershahzad2029 2 роки тому +1

    I remember choosing a haze profile avatar when I first got my ps3

  • @igodreamer7096
    @igodreamer7096 2 роки тому +1

    So much for once amazing studio behind Timesplitters games! Good to know the reborn as Deep Silver! xDD

  • @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc
    @WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, dying light as sponsor? That was Amazing

  • @user-cw9hy1ds6c
    @user-cw9hy1ds6c 2 роки тому +4

    This reminds me of cyberpunk too much, building the engine while building the game, higher up’s being responsible for the games fuck up. Being apart of the gaming industry is every kids wet dream when you know nothing about it.

  • @karbin89
    @karbin89 2 роки тому +1

    Dying Light just had its 30th Anniversary? Oh my God I'm middle aged!

  • @adamfrazer5150
    @adamfrazer5150 2 роки тому +1

    Ugh. Scary and sickeningly I've seen publisher-planted 'producers' absolutely wreck or simply fall-down on their job of steering the studio - most of the time these people are woefully inadequate, barely familiar and unsurprisingly beholden to the Publisher.

  • @AlzdemX
    @AlzdemX 2 роки тому +8

    I remember the demo had more players than the full release and i loved playing the multiplayer.

  • @zakmorgan9320
    @zakmorgan9320 2 роки тому

    Also had no idea haze was made by the timesplitters team, used to play that game every year with my cousin's. Amazing split screen experience

  • @xBINARYGODx
    @xBINARYGODx 2 роки тому +1

    Dying Light ad is unreal - beyond what someone else already said, the sequel is close (but of course, the DLC for the first is a long list).

  • @southworthb
    @southworthb 2 роки тому +1

    Why does my guy sound like he should be a narrator in a Medal of Honour game?

  • @henrysarson7417
    @henrysarson7417 2 роки тому

    they should hire you to voice dying light ads lol very fitting

  • @GoldBearanimationsYT
    @GoldBearanimationsYT 2 роки тому

    Why was there an ad for dying light

  • @roninblitz2159
    @roninblitz2159 2 роки тому

    the box art for haze was sooo cool

  • @realdragonrude
    @realdragonrude 2 роки тому

    Good video
    Can you do one about the conduit series?
    I really want to know
    what happend to the conduit 3?

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE 2 роки тому +2

    And yet, it's one of the most used default Playstation avatars...

  • @oklev89
    @oklev89 2 роки тому +1

    "Gaming for me is a religion and Haze is the shit!" - Jonathan Davis of Korn