I was a recruiter for a few years. At the time we needed Siebel Developers. I worked with an immigration attorney to ensure we posted ads in several recruiting websites and news papers (yep the law requires news papers :/) to target American Citizens and Green Cards holders. I could not find one Siebel Developer here qualified for the project who was also a citizen or green card holder. I had to hire H1B visas and those who passed the hiring test on Siebel were all from India. We paid market value for the job to successfully compete with other companies.
And yet we still need to be able to tap that top 1% of talent (no matter where in the world they come from)...right? So what's the solution? Hopefully America's job market grows to fit the increasing demand, but that's not likely to grow at the same rate. So meanwhile, what do we do to service all of these items collectively?
@@Common_Mansplaining open more government or clearance jobs, government jobs don't sponsor visa so permanent people can do it. But guess who wants to reduce the government jobs lol
@SundarbansCompanySite well I am not sure to whom you are referring now. I certainly want smaller government as a general principle...but only because government jobs mean I am fronting the bill. Anytime government is involved (especially federal government), the financial aspect is less efficient, and more costly, and quite often violates the 10th Amendment. I think we can (I hope) find some balance by creating jobs by moving additional industries back into domestic domain.
@SundarbansCompanySite well to be fair, I'm a hopeless idealist, lol. But one reason might be...Trump's tariffs. The entire purpose for those is to use as a negotiating tool to bring jobs back to the US. But there are many other possible methods as well.
Thank you for discussion this topic in great detail, have worked with a few H1B folks at my company. Just point a few factual errors: 5:59 H1B non-immigrants can leave the company which sponsor them. They just need to find another sponsor with in 60 days and it's pretty common for them to switch companies. You might have confused H1B with L-1 where employees can't switch companies and are tied up to the sponsors.
@LakeShoreDrive_ well yeah that's what Christian said (we agree with you)...although I think he said they have "a few weeks" to find another job. He also mentioned they are free to shop around for other employment while they work. So 60 days is a much more precise number. Thank you for filling us in! :) Do you think 60 days is sufficient time to find other jobs? I was thinking a year might be a better number. What are your thoughts?
@@thisisanewusername4662 I think you are confusing which group he was discussing at the time. He was talking about a bin that included basically all the Southeast Asian nations in addition to India, China, Pakistan, etc... That given, many do consider India part of "Southeast Asia" in a broader context, even if it doesn't technically make the list. I think there are only 8 nations in the official region right? Either way, sometimes people speak in broader terms...in plain English...where any nation that's in the South...or East...in Asia...qualifies.
I mean, I'd rather we get clubbed with South East Asia than with the middle east. Culturally/civilizationally etc I think we are more similar. We are taught to value education, that violence is only to be used as a last resort, and to expect and respect diversity because each person has a unique spiritual journey that is special to them.
"Pretty good track record of not being highly criminal." What a disgusting way of describing highly educated and highly skilled people with advanced degrees and PHDs.
Addendum: A rapist and actual 34 count convicted criminal felon is the 47th president of the United States of America. The VAST MAJORITY of WHITE PEOPLE voted for this criminal THREE TIMES IN A ROW.
@@thisisanewusername4662 haha what's the difference? Where do you think "common sense" typically comes from? Why the moniker of "COMMON sense"? It's because that sense is such that anyone can attain it. Even those that are not elite.
Thank you for sharing this information. The H1B category needs to be revised and should be awarded on a merit basis only. According to statistics from USCIS, 70% of H-1B visas were granted to Indian citizens, while 10% were awarded to Chinese citizens. This raises the question of whether the rest of the world is less capable or qualified. However, I believe this is not the case; there are issues related to monopolies and fraudulent practices that also play a role.
@brightstar151 do you think we should grant weights to those nations that are not adversarial to America? China, for instance, is known not to be in good relations with America...
It's really simple - demand for H1Bs is a function of 1) education levels/tech industry size in home country 2) salary difference between home country and US 3) language of business and cultural affinity 4) population In terms of education, there's only a handful of non rich but 'industrialized' countries which actually produce a significant number of Stem talent - look up 'newly industrialized countries', of which China and India are ~6 times more populated than the next biggest one (Brazil). Most countries in the outside the developed world cannot even manufacture a car - for e.g. in terms of population China/India are similar, and China is more educated on average, but the salary difference between coastal china and US is far lower than between India and the US. Coastal China is at around 55,000 GDP (PPP adjusted) vs Indian metros which are ~22,000 PPP compared to the US ~85,000. So it's a much bigger step up in the quality of life for Indian engineers (~4x better) than for Chinese engineers (1.5x better). Indians also speak english primarily at work and are much more at home in the US culturally than mainland chinese - thus you have a lot more of India's engineering workforce interested in moving to the US. Back when the numbers for the chinese economy were lower - there were many as many chinese H1Bs as Indians.
@AKumar-co7oe interesting. Are we overall having a positive effect on India as a consequence? (Because we are offering a means to a better standard of living...). Or are we instead causing them to shortcut their education systems to get a better "perceived degree"...and encouraging bribery to get the coveted H-1B slots? Ultimately, we won't be able to change India as a nation overall ...although with good stewardship going forward, we should be able to reduce those companies taking advantage of the system.
@Common_Mansplaining it obviously helps individual Indians who are looking to climb the economic ladder, earning 100k in the US instead of 5k in India means they get the resources to lift their entire extended family out of poverty/ global lower class
Because Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer want an ethno state and oppose all immigration (not just illegal immigration) from undesirable ethnicities. It’s the yellow peril / hindoo invasion scaremongering from 1890 - 1920 but in 2025.
Some people felt Trump would just completely stop all immigration programs. Obviously, a part of governing is to analyze each type of immigration, and assess if it's working well, being exploited, or hiding criminal activity. H1B are going to be giving the benefit of the doubt for the time being, because the people in the program have largely been exemplary guests.
That is a terribly fallacious and ignorant comment to make and actually post. I don't have an opinion on the subject of the video yet. That aside, the idolizing of men in power, referring to them as "genius level billionaires" and using that as a talking point to automatically side with everything they have to say because "whats good for the goose, is good for the gander? People who worship billionaires and believe they will work to help the common man are foolish pretender clowns who operate in group think and think bandwagon fallacies, appealing to authority, and appealing to ignorance are all great ways to highlight and explain their beliefs. Not a good start.
@seantv1510 first of all...acknowledging someone's intellectual ability and monetary prowess...is NOT "idolizing" ANYTHING. Secondly, we DON'T "side with everything they say"...you obviously didn't actually WATCH the video did you? 😂😂 Noone is worshiping anyone... So tell me...what has encouraged your hatred of those two genius level billionaires?
@@TheMexicansTribune so here's a question for you. Are those 144,000 engineers all "better" than their Indian counterparts? Or are at least SOME of them getting displaced by merit?
@ don’t ask vague. If you don’t work directly with h1b and H2A etc visas, please don’t comment. THEY HAVE TO BE TRAINED!!!!! So they aren’t even qualified! So do you believe what Elon said? Americans are lazy and dumb? Because that includes you….. so are you lazy and dumb? I think that’s what people had issue with…
It's sad as an Indian to see so many Americans being so hateful on social media to Indians(specially Hindus), when all we have ever been is tolerant, useful, open, peaceful, talented and law abiding people. Contrary to myzlims, who have done nothing but damage & chaos in your society. Im not talking about this video, but these days, the so-called "Western" people have been so hateful & racist towards Indians that it deeply saddens me.😒😒😒
Well please bear in mind...MOST of Americans don't have a problem with Indians at all... The issue they are bringing up isn't with you. It's with the employers who are USING you...increase competition for positions, and thereby reduce the wages they have to pay. I'm sure there are some racists out there who just want to avoid interfacing with another culture altogether...but we mostly just ignore those idiots, lol.
This issue is not about hating anyone. It's about a system and a program that displaces American workers in exchange for in many cases cheaper labor under the guise that "they're better". Not only is it insulting it's also untrue. What if India for example started bringing in hundreds of thousands of foreign workers and started giving them jobs claiming there was a labor shortage. Indians would be outraged because 1) they have the labor and 2) if they didn't have the talent they sure could train it. This only seems to be a racist issue when Americans are taking the brunt of it but if this was happening to another country they would have every right to protest the issue.
I was a recruiter for a few years. At the time we needed Siebel Developers. I worked with an immigration attorney to ensure we posted ads in several recruiting websites and news papers (yep the law requires news papers :/) to target American Citizens and Green Cards holders. I could not find one Siebel Developer here qualified for the project who was also a citizen or green card holder. I had to hire H1B visas and those who passed the hiring test on Siebel were all from India. We paid market value for the job to successfully compete with other companies.
The problem is jobs are limited, bringing 100000 people every year from outside reduces jobs for Americans.
And yet we still need to be able to tap that top 1% of talent (no matter where in the world they come from)...right?
So what's the solution? Hopefully America's job market grows to fit the increasing demand, but that's not likely to grow at the same rate. So meanwhile, what do we do to service all of these items collectively?
@@Common_Mansplaining open more government or clearance jobs, government jobs don't sponsor visa so permanent people can do it. But guess who wants to reduce the government jobs lol
@SundarbansCompanySite well I am not sure to whom you are referring now.
I certainly want smaller government as a general principle...but only because government jobs mean I am fronting the bill.
Anytime government is involved (especially federal government), the financial aspect is less efficient, and more costly, and quite often violates the 10th Amendment.
I think we can (I hope) find some balance by creating jobs by moving additional industries back into domestic domain.
@@Common_Mansplaining not many jobs can become domestic again, why would it even happen, there's not enough incentive, jobs gone are gone forever
@SundarbansCompanySite well to be fair, I'm a hopeless idealist, lol. But one reason might be...Trump's tariffs. The entire purpose for those is to use as a negotiating tool to bring jobs back to the US.
But there are many other possible methods as well.
Thank you for discussion this topic in great detail, have worked with a few H1B folks at my company. Just point a few factual errors:
5:59 H1B non-immigrants can leave the company which sponsor them. They just need to find another sponsor with in 60 days and it's pretty common for them to switch companies. You might have confused H1B with L-1 where employees can't switch companies and are tied up to the sponsors.
@LakeShoreDrive_ well yeah that's what Christian said (we agree with you)...although I think he said they have "a few weeks" to find another job. He also mentioned they are free to shop around for other employment while they work.
So 60 days is a much more precise number. Thank you for filling us in! :)
Do you think 60 days is sufficient time to find other jobs? I was thinking a year might be a better number. What are your thoughts?
@@Common_Mansplaining In the current market situation, 60days is definitely not enough. 6 months is fair and 1 year is definitely a good grace period.
@@LakeShoreDrive_ Now the only problem is getting politicians to implement, lol. Grab a snickers, we may be here for a while... 😂
The 60-day rule is new. For decades, people had 24 hours to Gtfo of the country.
@@thisisanewusername4662 Well thankfully we are moving in the right direction! A year is definitely better!
This guy called people from India "South East Asia." Ignorance on full display.
@thisisanewusername4662 who did?
@@Common_MansplainingWatch the video. The guy on the left did. Are you even watching the content you're uploading or curating?
@@thisisanewusername4662 I think you are confusing which group he was discussing at the time. He was talking about a bin that included basically all the Southeast Asian nations in addition to India, China, Pakistan, etc...
That given, many do consider India part of "Southeast Asia" in a broader context, even if it doesn't technically make the list. I think there are only 8 nations in the official region right? Either way, sometimes people speak in broader terms...in plain English...where any nation that's in the South...or East...in Asia...qualifies.
I mean, I'd rather we get clubbed with South East Asia than with the middle east. Culturally/civilizationally etc I think we are more similar. We are taught to value education, that violence is only to be used as a last resort, and to expect and respect diversity because each person has a unique spiritual journey that is special to them.
@@AKumar-co7oe 😂😂 That's fair, lol.
"Pretty good track record of not being highly criminal."
What a disgusting way of describing highly educated and highly skilled people with advanced degrees and PHDs.
@@thisisanewusername4662 huh?
Addendum: A rapist and actual 34 count convicted criminal felon is the 47th president of the United States of America. The VAST MAJORITY of WHITE PEOPLE voted for this criminal THREE TIMES IN A ROW.
I think you are confusing the group he was discussing...
@@thisisanewusername4662 also Trump was never convicted of rape...he was found "liable" for defamation.
Nobody wants to hear commons sense on this issue.
@arvindpalep6372 I know right! Crazy talk! 😂
common sense. not "commons."
@@thisisanewusername4662 haha what's the difference? Where do you think "common sense" typically comes from? Why the moniker of "COMMON sense"? It's because that sense is such that anyone can attain it. Even those that are not elite.
Thank you for sharing this information. The H1B category needs to be revised and should be awarded on a merit basis only.
According to statistics from USCIS, 70% of H-1B visas were granted to Indian citizens, while 10% were awarded to Chinese citizens. This raises the question of whether the rest of the world is less capable or qualified. However, I believe this is not the case; there are issues related to monopolies and fraudulent practices that also play a role.
@brightstar151 do you think we should grant weights to those nations that are not adversarial to America?
China, for instance, is known not to be in good relations with America...
@@Common_Mansplaining You got it right. I completely concur with your viewpoint. The entire visa system requires comprehensive reform.
It's really simple - demand for H1Bs is a function of
1) education levels/tech industry size in home country
2) salary difference between home country and US
3) language of business and cultural affinity
4) population
In terms of education, there's only a handful of non rich but 'industrialized' countries which actually produce a significant number of Stem talent - look up 'newly industrialized countries', of which China and India are ~6 times more populated than the next biggest one (Brazil). Most countries in the outside the developed world cannot even manufacture a car - for e.g.
in terms of population China/India are similar, and China is more educated on average, but the salary difference between coastal china and US is far lower than between India and the US. Coastal China is at around 55,000 GDP (PPP adjusted) vs Indian metros which are ~22,000 PPP compared to the US ~85,000. So it's a much bigger step up in the quality of life for Indian engineers (~4x better) than for Chinese engineers (1.5x better). Indians also speak english primarily at work and are much more at home in the US culturally than mainland chinese - thus you have a lot more of India's engineering workforce interested in moving to the US.
Back when the numbers for the chinese economy were lower - there were many as many chinese H1Bs as Indians.
@AKumar-co7oe interesting. Are we overall having a positive effect on India as a consequence? (Because we are offering a means to a better standard of living...). Or are we instead causing them to shortcut their education systems to get a better "perceived degree"...and encouraging bribery to get the coveted H-1B slots?
Ultimately, we won't be able to change India as a nation overall ...although with good stewardship going forward, we should be able to reduce those companies taking advantage of the system.
@Common_Mansplaining it obviously helps individual Indians who are looking to climb the economic ladder, earning 100k in the US instead of 5k in India means they get the resources to lift their entire extended family out of poverty/ global lower class
I really don’t even understand why this was THAT big of a controversy! 🤦🏾
Because Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer want an ethno state and oppose all immigration (not just illegal immigration) from undesirable ethnicities. It’s the yellow peril / hindoo invasion scaremongering from 1890 - 1920 but in 2025.
Some people felt Trump would just completely stop all immigration programs. Obviously, a part of governing is to analyze each type of immigration, and assess if it's working well, being exploited, or hiding criminal activity. H1B are going to be giving the benefit of the doubt for the time being, because the people in the program have largely been exemplary guests.
Elon and Vivek are both genius level billionaires.
If they say something is good for the goose...I'll tend to believe it's good for the gander...
Agreed!
That is a terribly fallacious and ignorant comment to make and actually post. I don't have an opinion on the subject of the video yet. That aside, the idolizing of men in power, referring to them as "genius level billionaires" and using that as a talking point to automatically side with everything they have to say because "whats good for the goose, is good for the gander?
People who worship billionaires and believe they will work to help the common man are foolish pretender clowns who operate in group think and think bandwagon fallacies, appealing to authority, and appealing to ignorance are all great ways to highlight and explain their beliefs. Not a good start.
@seantv1510 first of all...acknowledging someone's intellectual ability and monetary prowess...is NOT "idolizing" ANYTHING.
Secondly, we DON'T "side with everything they say"...you obviously didn't actually WATCH the video did you? 😂😂
Noone is worshiping anyone...
So tell me...what has encouraged your hatred of those two genius level billionaires?
Over 144,000 USA citizens engineers were laid off in 2024 to make room for h1bs from India 👍🏼 Great job everyone 🙄
@@TheMexicansTribune so here's a question for you. Are those 144,000 engineers all "better" than their Indian counterparts?
Or are at least SOME of them getting displaced by merit?
@ don’t ask vague. If you don’t work directly with h1b and H2A etc visas, please don’t comment.
THEY HAVE TO BE TRAINED!!!!! So they aren’t even qualified!
So do you believe what Elon said? Americans are lazy and dumb? Because that includes you….. so are you lazy and dumb? I think that’s what people had issue with…
It's sad as an Indian to see so many Americans being so hateful on social media to Indians(specially Hindus), when all we have ever been is tolerant, useful, open, peaceful, talented and law abiding people. Contrary to myzlims, who have done nothing but damage & chaos in your society. Im not talking about this video, but these days, the so-called "Western" people have been so hateful & racist towards Indians that it deeply saddens me.😒😒😒
Well please bear in mind...MOST of Americans don't have a problem with Indians at all...
The issue they are bringing up isn't with you. It's with the employers who are USING you...increase competition for positions, and thereby reduce the wages they have to pay.
I'm sure there are some racists out there who just want to avoid interfacing with another culture altogether...but we mostly just ignore those idiots, lol.
This issue is not about hating anyone. It's about a system and a program that displaces American workers in exchange for in many cases cheaper labor under the guise that "they're better". Not only is it insulting it's also untrue. What if India for example started bringing in hundreds of thousands of foreign workers and started giving them jobs claiming there was a labor shortage. Indians would be outraged because 1) they have the labor and 2) if they didn't have the talent they sure could train it. This only seems to be a racist issue when Americans are taking the brunt of it but if this was happening to another country they would have every right to protest the issue.
Do you have any idea how Vivek "made" his money? You clearly do not.
He brought the venture capital model to drug discovery and gave scientists stock options. Pretty innovative!