I think a big thing for the political stuff in seasons 4-6 is also the unoriginality of the show. Everything when this show was being aired made fun of Bush Jr. and joked about how the Al Gore timeline would've been better and what not. I'd attribute it more to blind copying than anything else given the rest of the track record of the show
2005 was a breaking point. After 9/11, Bush was wildly popular and mocking him would get you called an unpatriotic traitor. Then he started the Iraq War, which polarized the country and he barely got re-elected. Then, about six months into his second term, there was the disastrous response to Hurricane Katrina, and suddenly it was open season on attacking W. And 2005 was also when Family Guy returned to making new episodes.
S4-6 was a very hot and cold era for FG. While the quality of the writing was definitely on the decline, there were still some absolute classics like PTV and Meet the Quagmires.
@@Bolbi145 The first 6 seasons could be considered as the golden age but I can see why people feel like the first 3 seasons were a completely different show.
Similar to the jokes about "X celebrity is untalented" are jokes about "X woman is ugly." It's offensive, sure, but it's mostly just lazy. Like when Lois called Kate Winslet "the fat chick from Titanic" and Peter responds "that was Phillip Seymour Hoffman." What planet are they living on?
Yeah people say that in the early 2000s people had a weird thing about wanting every woman to be skeletal and if they were at all fat then that was disgusting. They do jokes about Britney Spears being fat too when she really wasn't
Yeah I hate these jokes. You're allowed to have a personal opinion about someone's looks and it's hard to call it punching down when it's famous rich celebrities but most of these women are relatively conventionally attractive if not everybody's type. It's just bizarre and mean and it comes up way too often
Like, regardless of what you find is crossing the line in terms of comedy, I think most people would agree that say a clip of Britney Spears binge-eating at a buffet is substantially less funny than the joke in season 2 (I think), where random people are extremely on the nose about how big Chris is.
@@Jurgan6 "Why are you still not thin? You should've slipped out by now!" "So I'm not Kate Moss, big deal." "Kate Moss isn't stuck in a manhole!" "I don't know, when you think about it, is there a bigger sewer than the world of professional modeling?" The Oblongs, a great show.
4:16 Apparently, Seth does the Conway Twitty jokes to get back at the network for censoring certain scenes, it makes them fork over thousands for royalties every time it airs, and wastes precious air timez
There is channel called Cutaway Guy, which was dedicated to just publishing the best jokes from the pre-cancellation era, and it solidified it for me that, yeah, in terms of successful jokes even the comparatively character-driven early seasons were better and more consistent.
Good job spelling out the contrast between the two "Griffins visit the South" episodes, I've thought for a while that they make a good case study in how the attitudes changed. I think a key point in the politics changing is that Seth Macfarlane nearly died on 9/11. He took it personally, and it bled into the work when the show came back in 2005. At the same time, he launched the more overtly political American Dad. If you watch Sarah Z's video on Idiocracy, she makes a similar comparison between the good-natured exploration of conservatives in King of the Hill with the cruel mockery of Idiocracy.
I don't think his experience with 9/11 really has much to do with it; like you mention there, Mike Judge had an almost parallel shift from good-natured ribbing to blatant mockery and he didn't have any personal experience with the event. I think Seth, just like everyone else at the time, was just reacting against Bush's increasingly draconian and unpopular policies. Hell, if 9/11 would have radicalized him you would expect it to do so in the opposite direction, with him being more supportive of the War on Terror. But that didn't really happen.
@@sargeward8184 that makes sense, but I don’t necessarily agree that I’d expect his experience to push him rightward. It might have, but OTOH having the conservatives saying “people like you don’t understand how America feels about 9/11” could lead to the response “I’m an American and I almost died, screw you!”
8:46 I noticed when you mentioned how it’s like someone higher up being into this kind of music, 👏 bravo for this. The sarcasm was almost unnoticeable. You had me going for a minute there.
Yeah it's weird watching an old show bash an actor/actress who got their shit together. Old South Park jokes where they bash Ben Affleck feel weird now.
Mostly unrelated but appreciate you not using that term for the mentally disabled. It may be medical, but it's largely outdated, as a disabled man I appreciate you being cautious about it in a world where so many people still use it maliciously 👍💜
Its a shame because although the highs in this era were very high, some of FGs best episodes, so many cutaways and entire episodes progressively become more lazy and toxic. Really takes the steam out of the seasons as a whole and makes watching those seasons linear much less enjoyable
@Walid-mk4jo petarded (4,6), ptv (4,14), Stewie loves Lois (5,1), meet the quagmires (5,18), blue harvest (6,1), and the stewie vs Lois double episode thing (s6 e4 and 5)
I like to think there is a Golden Age and a Silver Age of Family Guy. The original run was the former, and up to the Stewie kills Lois two parter was the latter
Yeah Season 4 of Family Guy is such a interesting season because this season especially the seasons that come afterwards are usually used to judge how Family Guy as a whole, what makes it bad or what makes it good. The idea of a shows later seasons being the identity of a show is such different from other shiws like Spongebob, which most people see its first 3 seasons as its tone and identity. You could use the Simpsons as a argument towards a extent but that evoultion felt a bit more nornal. Family Guy almost became a different show.
I really don't think season 4 was that different from the first 3. It started to change noticeably around season 5 or 6, but the show changed so gradually that it's hard to notice without going back and watching them in order.
In America, there was a huge shift in attitudes toward sex on TV between season 3 and season 4, mostly due to the fallout over the Janet Jackson Superbowl halftime show in 2004. Since then, TV networks grew increasingly risk-averse in terms of the sexual content they would allow. (Even on cable channels which are exempt from FCC content regulation.)
This particular period was where Family Guy was at their absolute funniest after coming back from cancelation. Even though the comedic moments were hit or miss And it lost some of the charm that the early seasons had. Can't really say the same for when the show continues into the later seasons, but this is the era when the problems of the show begin to take form.
Hard disagree with Brian being better in this era. Family Guy absolutely needs a voice of reason character in its world of madness, and Brian fit that role great in seasons 1-3. This era though shows that Brian is actually a piece of crap and all the stuff about him being the only sane one goes right out the window and he just feels useless now. Brian having flaws is one thing, but these seasons just pushed it too far.
I started watching FG in 03 on adult swim, and when the show FIRST came back it felt like it never left. Looking back, the first few Season 4 episodes could easily fit in the first three seasons without looking too outta place. When I watched 4-6 in real time, the changes were so gradual and sneaky I barely noticed them until like the last half of season 6. IIRC, it was the episodes where Brian tried to sleep with Lois and then when had a human son. Those made me go, “Damn, this show kinda changed”. Hindsight is crazy, it was like with each new episode they said “make peter a little dumber, make the humor a little darker, make it a little wackier, make the animation a little stiffer etc.. and by the time I picked up on it, it was already a completely different show from the first three seasons. I won’t say I don’t enjoy modern FG but Seasons 1-4 are my go-to and I even got them on DVD.
I feel like that sort of chaotic storytelling worked better in the Quagmire's reform episode. McStroke was one of the first major instances of Peter being a massive unrepentant sociopath as a source of comedy, and I feel like that totally ruined the appeal of the character.
It's more commonly accepted that "someone high-up" is a fan of their own singing voice, and will use any excuse to shoehorn it in to serve his messed-up ego. Singing with Frank Sinatra (Jr) is the ultimate result. To him, it implies he was good enough to sing with actual Frank, and it's not his fault cos Sinatra's dead. To everyone else it shows that Jr just can't get the bookings like his dad did. Not saying Frank Jr's a *bad* singer, he's just not a great, and lounge music just isn't what it once was.
Well I mean Seth did train under the same singing coach as Frank Sinatra. I don't think its really ego on his part- he does have the talent. And as far as I know he and Frankie Jr are friends, so it is more like he just wanted an excuse to sing with his buddy.
I think season 4 was just as good as the first three. It started to change around season 5, but only enough to notice in retrospect (for me, at least).
Really enjoying your videos, man! Definitely a channel that is destined to take off if you keep it up! I’d definitely love to see more side by side Simpsons/Family Guy essays. The reference comedy video was the one that brought me to your channel, and I think Simpsons/FG comparison videos haven’t been done all that much - though they should!
I mostly enjoyed seasons 4-6 mainly because of the better animation, comedy, songs and pop cultural references. In fact, the humor felt more adult and raunchy as it speaks to my kind of generation.
the UK dvd scheme is so weird lol. in US we got "volumes" instead of seasons because they combined the 7 episode season one with season two. the UK way is just weird lol
The "Walt Disney was an anti-semite" jokes always came off so stange to me, because it's so laughably false. It's so easily disproven, even with a google search, yet FG kept insisting otherwise and people just sorta...believed in the gaslighting. This happens a LOT with Family Guy, for some reason. Like how FG also started the trope of Marcy and Peppermint Patty of the Peanuts as lesbians, despite how canonically BOTH have had huge crushes on Charlie Brown. If anything Marcy was far more outspoken about it, and outright confessed her feelings towards a stunned Charlie Brown. Hell, BOTH have even kissed him at some point! They're about the farthest thing you can get from lesbians, but that never stopped this show from pushing a narrative for cheap jokes.
kind of off-topic, but I always notice when I watch the later seasons of Family Guy that the plot completely changes to something else. Like you think it's going to center around one thing but then it completely switches into a whole different story and that's what I hate about the later seasons 😭 EDIT: nvm it's not off topic i didn't watch the whole vid and saw u brought it up slsjdjsj
Really? I used the Family Guy wiki as my partial reference (asides from having rewatched the first six seasons for this channel, but honestly it's hard to remember everything). The Wiki says that one of them appeared in Season 2, but I didn't want to count that because they weren't a duo yet
I think you were a little harsh on these seasons, like they got pretty good reviews from critics and audiences alike, and it was even beating the Simpsons in ratings on numerous occasions.
Ironic that the writers were saying they were keeping the "Meg-being-treated-like-crap" running gag because they couldn't figure how to write a teenage girl character, but in action made Chris look even more flat of a character lol. The gag was actually what eventually gave her character dimension.
I remember watching family guy when I was younger. It used to be my favorite show. My cousin watched it when he was younger as well. The show definitely appeals to people around that age. He decline isn’t as straightforward as it is with a lot of other shows, but you can feel the soul of the show dying. It gets so much more depressed as it goes on.
Family Guy changed here. S4 was the first season I watched as it aired, and I remember it well, as well as American Dad starting around that time. S1-3 was peak, S4 was good but S5 started to weaken but was still decent. S6 WAS where the cracks started, almost like creator boredom set in, and Fox started to just okay them at every turn because of all the replacement shows failed which was a used as a gag in this era. Family would soon tire out after S6.
Im a huge fan of absurdist comedy but i feel that even this era of Family Guy doesn't deliver that. Its not Homestar Runner or the Misadventures of Flapjack. Absurdity should still serve a purpose and Family Guy is being "Random for Randoms sake"
Just like SpongeBob, SpongeBob was good for the first three seasons but once season four came out, it began to dip in quality. season four had great episodes, but you can definitely see the cracks begin the show, same with family guy.
Keep it up homie! All the junk you’re saying about the show, I’ve been trying to articulate for years. I rewatched your meta-humor vid three times 👨🍳👌😚
Seasons 4-6 was pretty hit or miss; with the stories moving from character driven to comedy driven, the storyboarding & animation becoming flatter & more stiff, and the plotting becoming secondary to the humour. They're still classics amongst the slop, but you can tell the writers & directors were slowly moving to a more cynical/brash tone.
Also, I always found their jab at Monty Python's Flying Circus unfair. The quality of a stretch isn't based on how well known it is, and it seems like they miss how layered a lot of the sketches are, and takes most of the sketches at surface value.
21:37 Of course Brian is a rubbish human being, he's a dog. Smh its like this guy didn't even watch the show. Dumb joke aside, I enjoyed watching, got a nice voice, good overall production quality and was an interesting breakdown of the show. Like you with seasons 1-3, family guy was one of the few shows I got a box set of, alongside spongebob, both being shows I watched my dad with, and the whole family since we binged one of the seasons over Christmas, and I remember the stewie/brian ones fondly. I feel like I ended up losing interest after, or around the star wars episodes. I feel like my thinking was kind of like.. "Well this was the 'family guy movie, show's kind of done".. Since the same thing happened with Spongebob for me for the most part, same with the simpsons though I was never that into them.
Ref to your bit about how partisan political views took over for a bit, there's a thread I saw on twitter the other day about how radically... I think Law and Order SVU... changed over the years in line with the writers political views
13:30 the problem with that joke only slight exaggeration gore key issue was climate change do you any fucking clue how the world would like today if he did everything bush did but also fought against oil companies our grandkids are gonna make alternate history videos about this. you can not like the joke because it's ham fisted but he was literally correct we just got out the Iraq war..
The only reason it changed is because Seth McFarlane is, and always has been a lazy writer; he relies on shock value and disgust more often than timing, storytelling or character development, and everyone who works under him follows that sloppy model. He might have wit, but he rarely ever uses it in his shows or his movies. Any great comedy writer would school him by saying 'Attitude isn't enough.'
I somewhat agree, but Seth hasn't been the Showrunner since 2003 and he was only credited as a writer for seasons 1, 3 and 4. I agree that he probably came out trying to push the envelope post cancellation, but he can't be blamed for how the show has gone since, especially since his other shows like American Dad and Ted have been mostly consistently praised. (I have only seen Ted, and it's interesting how much of the dialogue sounds like something from Family Guy, but the better direction and character writing clearly elevates it beyond that.
That simply isn’t true, I’m sorry but whenever someone says this you can tell it was just a parroted opinion from another UA-cam video or Twitter thread. For the most part Seth hasn’t written or show ran family guy since season 5 and he only has big writing credits in 3 episodes in total, he isn’t even close to the reason the show went downhill, the less input he had the worse the show got. The shows he is or was more intimately involved with (American Dad in the early years, the current show TED and the Orville) are 100% more character focused and have genuinely amazing stories with genuine character development. Hell the Orville is considered one of if not the best Star Trek series ever and it’s just Star Trek inspired. Seth shouldn’t try to write movies anymore tho he’s not good with telling one long story there’s no denying that.
Family Guy has been great longer than any other animated series. It finally started to decline this year. Granted, if King of the Hill had lasted as long, that would probably be the funniest-for-longest show
I think a big thing for the political stuff in seasons 4-6 is also the unoriginality of the show. Everything when this show was being aired made fun of Bush Jr. and joked about how the Al Gore timeline would've been better and what not. I'd attribute it more to blind copying than anything else given the rest of the track record of the show
2005 was a breaking point. After 9/11, Bush was wildly popular and mocking him would get you called an unpatriotic traitor. Then he started the Iraq War, which polarized the country and he barely got re-elected. Then, about six months into his second term, there was the disastrous response to Hurricane Katrina, and suddenly it was open season on attacking W. And 2005 was also when Family Guy returned to making new episodes.
S4-6 was a very hot and cold era for FG. While the quality of the writing was definitely on the decline, there were still some absolute classics like PTV and Meet the Quagmires.
"here's a song by a gay guy"
PTV is my favourite episode of the entire series.
I think it was still part of the golden age, it’s these seasons that made me love family guy
@@Bolbi145 The first 6 seasons could be considered as the golden age but I can see why people feel like the first 3 seasons were a completely different show.
Seasons 1-3: The golden age
Seasons 4-6: The silver age
Seasons 7-9: The bronze age
Seasons 10-now: The dark age
Similar to the jokes about "X celebrity is untalented" are jokes about "X woman is ugly." It's offensive, sure, but it's mostly just lazy. Like when Lois called Kate Winslet "the fat chick from Titanic" and Peter responds "that was Phillip Seymour Hoffman." What planet are they living on?
Yeah people say that in the early 2000s people had a weird thing about wanting every woman to be skeletal and if they were at all fat then that was disgusting. They do jokes about Britney Spears being fat too when she really wasn't
@@kcreviews8161 whereas they also did the joke about Kate Moss being freakishly thin. Women can’t win.
Yeah I hate these jokes. You're allowed to have a personal opinion about someone's looks and it's hard to call it punching down when it's famous rich celebrities but most of these women are relatively conventionally attractive if not everybody's type. It's just bizarre and mean and it comes up way too often
Like, regardless of what you find is crossing the line in terms of comedy, I think most people would agree that say a clip of Britney Spears binge-eating at a buffet is substantially less funny than the joke in season 2 (I think), where random people are extremely on the nose about how big Chris is.
@@Jurgan6 "Why are you still not thin? You should've slipped out by now!"
"So I'm not Kate Moss, big deal."
"Kate Moss isn't stuck in a manhole!"
"I don't know, when you think about it, is there a bigger sewer than the world of professional modeling?"
The Oblongs, a great show.
I've always hated Stewie wanting to get with Brian because it put a stain on their friendship. I also hate how toxic they're friendship would become.
4:16 Apparently, Seth does the Conway Twitty jokes to get back at the network for censoring certain scenes, it makes them fork over thousands for royalties every time it airs, and wastes precious air timez
Well at least he gets some petty vengeance out of it!
@@kcreviews8161 I think more creators should follow suit, it would cause an uproar amongst fans that might push the network to be less prudish
There is channel called Cutaway Guy, which was dedicated to just publishing the best jokes from the pre-cancellation era, and it solidified it for me that, yeah, in terms of successful jokes even the comparatively character-driven early seasons were better and more consistent.
Good job spelling out the contrast between the two "Griffins visit the South" episodes, I've thought for a while that they make a good case study in how the attitudes changed.
I think a key point in the politics changing is that Seth Macfarlane nearly died on 9/11. He took it personally, and it bled into the work when the show came back in 2005. At the same time, he launched the more overtly political American Dad. If you watch Sarah Z's video on Idiocracy, she makes a similar comparison between the good-natured exploration of conservatives in King of the Hill with the cruel mockery of Idiocracy.
The best part of Idiocracy is that if someone says that a situation is just like Idiocracy you can ignore them.
@@samjonesi2658I really hate it when comedy fans become snobs.
I don't think his experience with 9/11 really has much to do with it; like you mention there, Mike Judge had an almost parallel shift from good-natured ribbing to blatant mockery and he didn't have any personal experience with the event. I think Seth, just like everyone else at the time, was just reacting against Bush's increasingly draconian and unpopular policies.
Hell, if 9/11 would have radicalized him you would expect it to do so in the opposite direction, with him being more supportive of the War on Terror. But that didn't really happen.
@@sargeward8184 that makes sense, but I don’t necessarily agree that I’d expect his experience to push him rightward. It might have, but OTOH having the conservatives saying “people like you don’t understand how America feels about 9/11” could lead to the response “I’m an American and I almost died, screw you!”
@@Jurgan6 thats a good pont actually. I could see that being the case
8:46 I noticed when you mentioned how it’s like someone higher up being into this kind of music, 👏 bravo for this. The sarcasm was almost unnoticeable. You had me going for a minute there.
Same 😂 well played
Yeah it's weird watching an old show bash an actor/actress who got their shit together. Old South Park jokes where they bash Ben Affleck feel weird now.
Mostly unrelated but appreciate you not using that term for the mentally disabled. It may be medical, but it's largely outdated, as a disabled man I appreciate you being cautious about it in a world where so many people still use it maliciously 👍💜
you should make a video about the simpsons movie and how it compares to the tv show's episodes at the time
That's a great idea honestly!
Its a shame because although the highs in this era were very high, some of FGs best episodes, so many cutaways and entire episodes progressively become more lazy and toxic. Really takes the steam out of the seasons as a whole and makes watching those seasons linear much less enjoyable
Well then what are the best episodes that I should watch that come from season 4-6?
@Walid-mk4jo petarded (4,6), ptv (4,14), Stewie loves Lois (5,1), meet the quagmires (5,18), blue harvest (6,1), and the stewie vs Lois double episode thing (s6 e4 and 5)
@@mrflongle Wow that is alot less episodes then I expected um...
I like to think there is a Golden Age and a Silver Age of Family Guy. The original run was the former, and up to the Stewie kills Lois two parter was the latter
Yeah Season 4 of Family Guy is such a interesting season because this season especially the seasons that come afterwards are usually used to judge how Family Guy as a whole, what makes it bad or what makes it good. The idea of a shows later seasons being the identity of a show is such different from other shiws like Spongebob, which most people see its first 3 seasons as its tone and identity. You could use the Simpsons as a argument towards a extent but that evoultion felt a bit more nornal. Family Guy almost became a different show.
I really don't think season 4 was that different from the first 3. It started to change noticeably around season 5 or 6, but the show changed so gradually that it's hard to notice without going back and watching them in order.
In America, there was a huge shift in attitudes toward sex on TV between season 3 and season 4, mostly due to the fallout over the Janet Jackson Superbowl halftime show in 2004. Since then, TV networks grew increasingly risk-averse in terms of the sexual content they would allow. (Even on cable channels which are exempt from FCC content regulation.)
Top notch production value, i'm really impressed!
20:51 is he actually disgusted that brian is a cross dresser, or is the situation just awkward because stewie walked in on brian cross dressing?
This particular period was where Family Guy was at their absolute funniest after coming back from cancelation. Even though the comedic moments were hit or miss And it lost some of the charm that the early seasons had.
Can't really say the same for when the show continues into the later seasons, but this is the era when the problems of the show begin to take form.
Hard disagree with Brian being better in this era. Family Guy absolutely needs a voice of reason character in its world of madness, and Brian fit that role great in seasons 1-3. This era though shows that Brian is actually a piece of crap and all the stuff about him being the only sane one goes right out the window and he just feels useless now. Brian having flaws is one thing, but these seasons just pushed it too far.
Jillian's not dumb, shes just extremely naive
I started watching FG in 03 on adult swim, and when the show FIRST came back it felt like it never left. Looking back, the first few Season 4 episodes could easily fit in the first three seasons without looking too outta place. When I watched 4-6 in real time, the changes were so gradual and sneaky I barely noticed them until like the last half of season 6. IIRC, it was the episodes where Brian tried to sleep with Lois and then when had a human son. Those made me go, “Damn, this show kinda changed”.
Hindsight is crazy, it was like with each new episode they said “make peter a little dumber, make the humor a little darker, make it a little wackier, make the animation a little stiffer etc.. and by the time I picked up on it, it was already a completely different show from the first three seasons. I won’t say I don’t enjoy modern FG but Seasons 1-4 are my go-to and I even got them on DVD.
I will not stand for Patriot Games slander it is one of the funniest episodes ever made.
I wish Stewie and Brian got their own spin-off series.
20:09 villainy
You beat me to this comment by 57 minutes!
Hmmm... doesn't sound like enough syllables to me!
I disagree with you about McStroke. The episode being chaotic and unpredictable makes it funny.
I feel like that sort of chaotic storytelling worked better in the Quagmire's reform episode. McStroke was one of the first major instances of Peter being a massive unrepentant sociopath as a source of comedy, and I feel like that totally ruined the appeal of the character.
This was the definitive Family Guy for me. I tend to view the first 3 seasons as early installment weirdness.
It's more commonly accepted that "someone high-up" is a fan of their own singing voice, and will use any excuse to shoehorn it in to serve his messed-up ego. Singing with Frank Sinatra (Jr) is the ultimate result. To him, it implies he was good enough to sing with actual Frank, and it's not his fault cos Sinatra's dead. To everyone else it shows that Jr just can't get the bookings like his dad did. Not saying Frank Jr's a *bad* singer, he's just not a great, and lounge music just isn't what it once was.
Well I mean Seth did train under the same singing coach as Frank Sinatra. I don't think its really ego on his part- he does have the talent. And as far as I know he and Frankie Jr are friends, so it is more like he just wanted an excuse to sing with his buddy.
@@sargeward8184 They *were* friends! Frank Sinatra Jr. died back in 2016.
I think season 4 was just as good as the first three. It started to change around season 5, but only enough to notice in retrospect (for me, at least).
Really enjoying your videos, man! Definitely a channel that is destined to take off if you keep it up! I’d definitely love to see more side by side Simpsons/Family Guy essays. The reference comedy video was the one that brought me to your channel, and I think Simpsons/FG comparison videos haven’t been done all that much - though they should!
Thanks that's really nice to hear!
I mostly enjoyed seasons 4-6 mainly because of the better animation, comedy, songs and pop cultural references. In fact, the humor felt more adult and raunchy as it speaks to my kind of generation.
Love your videos, I just hope UA-cam realises too and gives you a well deserved boost!
Thanks!
the UK dvd scheme is so weird lol. in US we got "volumes" instead of seasons because they combined the 7 episode season one with season two. the UK way is just weird lol
The "Walt Disney was an anti-semite" jokes always came off so stange to me, because it's so laughably false. It's so easily disproven, even with a google search, yet FG kept insisting otherwise and people just sorta...believed in the gaslighting.
This happens a LOT with Family Guy, for some reason. Like how FG also started the trope of Marcy and Peppermint Patty of the Peanuts as lesbians, despite how canonically BOTH have had huge crushes on Charlie Brown. If anything Marcy was far more outspoken about it, and outright confessed her feelings towards a stunned Charlie Brown. Hell, BOTH have even kissed him at some point! They're about the farthest thing you can get from lesbians, but that never stopped this show from pushing a narrative for cheap jokes.
kind of off-topic, but I always notice when I watch the later seasons of Family Guy that the plot completely changes to something else. Like you think it's going to center around one thing but then it completely switches into a whole different story and that's what I hate about the later seasons 😭
EDIT: nvm it's not off topic i didn't watch the whole vid and saw u brought it up slsjdjsj
As a Texan, I'm more offended that they got the flag wrong in the scene at 14:47
15:56: The Vaudeville characters were introduced in season 1.
Really? I used the Family Guy wiki as my partial reference (asides from having rewatched the first six seasons for this channel, but honestly it's hard to remember everything). The Wiki says that one of them appeared in Season 2, but I didn't want to count that because they weren't a duo yet
@kcreviews8161 Oh yeah, there was only one in the beginning. They became a duo later.
I shocked that we never got an episode in full with humanoid Rupert
I think you were a little harsh on these seasons, like they got pretty good reviews from critics and audiences alike, and it was even beating the Simpsons in ratings on numerous occasions.
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Ironic that the writers were saying they were keeping the "Meg-being-treated-like-crap" running gag because they couldn't figure how to write a teenage girl character, but in action made Chris look even more flat of a character lol. The gag was actually what eventually gave her character dimension.
KC Reviews is always interesting, let's sit and watch for sure 👍
I remember watching family guy when I was younger. It used to be my favorite show. My cousin watched it when he was younger as well. The show definitely appeals to people around that age. He decline isn’t as straightforward as it is with a lot of other shows, but you can feel the soul of the show dying. It gets so much more depressed as it goes on.
Family Guy changed here. S4 was the first season I watched as it aired, and I remember it well, as well as American Dad starting around that time. S1-3 was peak, S4 was good but S5 started to weaken but was still decent. S6 WAS where the cracks started, almost like creator boredom set in, and Fox started to just okay them at every turn because of all the replacement shows failed which was a used as a gag in this era. Family would soon tire out after S6.
Im a huge fan of absurdist comedy but i feel that even this era of Family Guy doesn't deliver that. Its not Homestar Runner or the Misadventures of Flapjack. Absurdity should still serve a purpose and Family Guy is being "Random for Randoms sake"
wish we got flashbacks on how Adam West became Mayor when Lois succeeded West
Excellent video!
9:00 was that supposed to be a joke? It’s Seth MacFarlane that’s a Sinatra fan.
8:58 I really hope this is a Joke.....
In case it's not... *sigh* Seth himself was a MASSIVE fan of music like this and that is EXTREMELY well known.
“No straight man writes that many show tunes” -Patrice O’Neill to Seth McFarlane during Comedy Central the roast of William Shatner.
See: their Britney Spears jokes.
Just like SpongeBob, SpongeBob was good for the first three seasons but once season four came out, it began to dip in quality. season four had great episodes, but you can definitely see the cracks begin the show, same with family guy.
Season 4 of SpongeBob is better than Family Guy. It's not radically different either.
Well ya, the forth season of SpongeBob still had cohesive plots & tried to implement more emotional/sad moments (with it mostly succeeding).
8:46 What is a mouse?
What has he got?
If not himself?
Then he has naught
Keep it up homie! All the junk you’re saying about the show, I’ve been trying to articulate for years. I rewatched your meta-humor vid three times 👨🍳👌😚
Seasons 4-6 was pretty hit or miss; with the stories moving from character driven to comedy driven, the storyboarding & animation becoming flatter & more stiff, and the plotting becoming secondary to the humour.
They're still classics amongst the slop, but you can tell the writers & directors were slowly moving to a more cynical/brash tone.
Also, I always found their jab at Monty Python's Flying Circus unfair.
The quality of a stretch isn't based on how well known it is, and it seems like they miss how layered a lot of the sketches are, and takes most of the sketches at surface value.
Would love to see you compare/contrast family guy and american dad!
this is a great follow-up, thank you :)
made my day!!!!
22:18 actually its nolonger medically accurate ever since 2010
Really enjoying these!
Oh shit part 2?
Lets go.
which seasons pushed its limits for been the most been most offensive in order series 1-22 when it comes to the dvd layout
21:37 Of course Brian is a rubbish human being, he's a dog. Smh its like this guy didn't even watch the show.
Dumb joke aside, I enjoyed watching, got a nice voice, good overall production quality and was an interesting breakdown of the show. Like you with seasons 1-3, family guy was one of the few shows I got a box set of, alongside spongebob, both being shows I watched my dad with, and the whole family since we binged one of the seasons over Christmas, and I remember the stewie/brian ones fondly. I feel like I ended up losing interest after, or around the star wars episodes. I feel like my thinking was kind of like.. "Well this was the 'family guy movie, show's kind of done".. Since the same thing happened with Spongebob for me for the most part, same with the simpsons though I was never that into them.
Well what I want to know is what good episodes should I watch that come from season 4-6 of family guy?
Ref to your bit about how partisan political views took over for a bit, there's a thread I saw on twitter the other day about how radically... I think Law and Order SVU... changed over the years in line with the writers political views
There should be a Family Guy movie
Please stop me.
13:30 the problem with that joke only slight exaggeration gore key issue was climate change do you any fucking clue how the world would like today if he did everything bush did but also fought against oil companies our grandkids are gonna make alternate history videos about this. you can not like the joke because it's ham fisted but he was literally correct we just got out the Iraq war..
the Superbowl nipslip is why UA-cam came to be because one of UA-cams founders founded to watch a replayable version of the incident
The only reason it changed is because Seth McFarlane is, and always has been a lazy writer; he relies on shock value and disgust more often than timing, storytelling or character development, and everyone who works under him follows that sloppy model. He might have wit, but he rarely ever uses it in his shows or his movies. Any great comedy writer would school him by saying 'Attitude isn't enough.'
I somewhat agree, but Seth hasn't been the Showrunner since 2003 and he was only credited as a writer for seasons 1, 3 and 4. I agree that he probably came out trying to push the envelope post cancellation, but he can't be blamed for how the show has gone since, especially since his other shows like American Dad and Ted have been mostly consistently praised. (I have only seen Ted, and it's interesting how much of the dialogue sounds like something from Family Guy, but the better direction and character writing clearly elevates it beyond that.
That simply isn’t true, I’m sorry but whenever someone says this you can tell it was just a parroted opinion from another UA-cam video or Twitter thread.
For the most part Seth hasn’t written or show ran family guy since season 5 and he only has big writing credits in 3 episodes in total, he isn’t even close to the reason the show went downhill, the less input he had the worse the show got.
The shows he is or was more intimately involved with (American Dad in the early years, the current show TED and the Orville) are 100% more character focused and have genuinely amazing stories with genuine character development.
Hell the Orville is considered one of if not the best Star Trek series ever and it’s just Star Trek inspired.
Seth shouldn’t try to write movies anymore tho he’s not good with telling one long story there’s no denying that.
@@supaskiltz9877Seth has not been involved in family guy since Season 9, Seasons 10 onswards Seth only does voice acting
@@supaskiltz9877idk i think american dad got better after those early years and family guy had already declined so much by the time he left
Walt was never an antisemite, that's a misconception, he was an anti-communist, which is a good thing
Family Guy has been great longer than any other animated series. It finally started to decline this year. Granted, if King of the Hill had lasted as long, that would probably be the funniest-for-longest show