How To Make a Simple File Guide For Knife Making
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2019
- How To Make a Simple File Guide For Knife Making.
Just a quick video showing how I made a file guide for knife making. Stuff used⬇️
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Hi, Im Alex, im a knife maker and UA-camr, based out of southern Pennsylvania and my youtube channel is Outdoors55. This channel started as an outdoor backpacking channel, but quickly grew into a knife/ knife making channel. Everything I do on my channel is family friendly. I primarily focus on knife / knife making videos but occasionally throw in something different. Thank you for watching!😀
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Just a quick video showing how to make a simple file guide. Any questions ask away⬇️😀
why did you temper them? Dont you want them as hard as possible so the file wont bite into it? or would that dull the file?
Because they could snap if over tightened. They probably wouldn't but better safe than sorry🤷♂️
OUTDOORS55 alex, how does someone contact you? I'm not on Instagram. In the "About" tab, it says "click the link below" but there's no link below...lol
Machinist police, now i've seen It all 🤣
Hi, how much would you charge if you made another jig like that .
You had me at Machinist Police ...lmfao. Great instruction as usual Alex, and the witty humor was right up my ally. 😂😂😂😂👍😂
Thanks Kevin! I had to put that in there😂
Glad to see you got the oven working.
Nice little build. I just finished building one of these myself. Thank you as always.👍
Nice!
NO WAY Alex!!! Never get bored watching your talent my good friend!!! I see you got your oven straightened out. 😀 Can't wait for your next video!!! 👍👍. ☆Jay.
Talent😂 Im just learning, and editing out my mistakes😂 Thanks my friend!
Another video, praise the gods!
Thanks for the inspiration!
Thanks my friend!
Yay! The oven is working! 👍👏👍👏
Works like a clock 😀 just a loose screw.😂
Yeah! Great video! Can’t wait for the next!
Thanks my friend 👍👊
Great video. To the point and informative! I love the end card with your disclaimers 😂.
Thanks my friend! I knew id get "those" comments so i figured id save myself some time 😂
Hey Alex just wanted you to know that it was your channel that inspired me to start making knifes.....Thanks for all the great content man i appreciate it.
Awesome! I love hearing that! Took me a while to get inspired too. I just wasn't inspired by a knife making channel, funny enough. It was another youtuber outside of knife making who provided the inspiration. Thanks for the comment my friend!👍
So excited to watch this later!
Yeehaa!
I really dont know why u havent got way more subs as your videos are fantastic!
Thank you my friend!
Needs da more subs
Doesn’t post often enough
I really like how you put everything you do on the table with explanation for people who want to get into making blades. I love working with my hands and I love tools so the way you explain everything and show mistakes or ideas you have is fun to watch while being helpful. At some point I'd really like to own one of your knives because it would be pretty cool to have something you have created. You are getting better and better at knife making and seeing the progression from the beginning is awesome Alex 😎👍
Thanks man! Hopefully my real job will calm down a little bit and I can start making some knives. It should happen in the next month or so. Thanks for the comment man!
Don't sell yourself short! This was a great project for many of us to learn. Thanks,
John in Colorado
Thanks. It is a good starter project. It definitely gives you an idea of what working with metal is like.
Great job on the guides. I'm glad you got a 2x72 grinder and am looking forward to seeing what master peices you create. Keep up the great job and don't stop posting videos because even these videos have a lot of information in them.
The 2x72 is great. Really make a difference in just about everything I do. Thanks my friend!
I love the disclaimer at the end,good stuff,lol
Great video, I was thinking about making a file guide so this helped out, thanks! Keep the videos coming!
Thanks! Glad it helps 🙂
Glad to see you got your new forge working. Your like a friend of mine. If he needs something, he usually just makes it, and it ends up looking better than store bought.👍
Its working well! The store bought ones may be slightly better in this case😀
You have really great videos.
All very interesting. Looking forward to more
Thank you my friend 🙂👊
Dope videos man keep them comin 👍🏻
Keep making videos. They're great!
Thanks!👊
Amazing work
Very good!
Hey your oven is working! 👍🏼 great video Alex.
Yep.. just a loose screw 😂 Thanks my friend 👍
Very nice. I have been thinking of making something similar. I love the message for the machinist police at the end :)
Blacksmiths make a lot of their own tools I don't see why knife makers can't if they want to. Besides it is always more fun to use something you have made yourself (unless it turned out crap lol).
Nice and to the point. I have been wanting to make one of these since seeing the price of them 🤑🤑. Thanks for the inspiration.
Nice to see your gear all up and running man... looking good bro.
All up and running! Thanks my friend!
Happy New Year!!! Awesome idea!!!😀
Thanks you as well!👍
Great job, I like it. :-)
nice video, the more you make those the better they will become
Good project.
Alex, I think many of us would enjoy seeing the final set up with the new oven and belt grinder. Both a far cry from the 3 brick torch forge and the 4 x 36
Yes for sure! I have three videos backlogged i filmed while waiting for parts and things to be fixed. Both are huge upgrades. Although I kinda miss my mini forge.😢
Great job keep it up thanks for sharing
Thanks ill try🙂
Nice tutorial! Have a blessed day
Thanks you as well👍👊
Very nice !!!
Thanks man!
I have a file guide that I bought years ago, but it will not accommodate the width of a sword blade at the shoulders that I have forged, hence I was looking for a step by step on making one myself as these things are expensive to buy these days. Thanks for the information.That was an excellent video.
Dam the 2x72 is sweet!
Got started on my next knife, it's gonna be a hidden tang which I've never done before. You should also upload a hidden tang build!
Nice👍👍 let me know how it turns out! Its on the list of videos for sure!
Tapity tap tap tap. Nice hamon! 😉
I tried🤷♂️😀
@@OUTDOORS55 From the one pic it looks like it came out strong💪. Looking good! I see you got the evenheat up and running. Nice. How happy are you! I got my epoxy from total boat. I just haven't had time to play with it yet. Soon🤞
Great video! "Machinist police" JAJAJAJAJAJAJA
Thanks my friend!
That end disclaimer was amazing.
Merci
Always thought files were harder than hard. Probably did a better job on your guide than you think. Glad your oven is operational now. One minute pizzas.
They are. A file won't scratch before tempering but did after. So somewhere in the middle is the answer😂 pizza here we come!
What kind of metal bandsaw in Blade do you use? I have a wood bandsaw that I put a bi-metal blade on and it will not touch 1095 steel, which is annealed so it should be soft. .
Good video
THanks!
Dude!!! DONT EVEN WORRY ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK OR SAY!!! Dont even respond to them because when you do, your letting them win. So, be as cool as you already are!!!
Sorry, I should have waited until the end of the video to ask the Windex question. Thank you for another excellent video.
Haha. I hve used oil in the past but it gets everywhere. In my small shop i have to keep it as clean as possible. Especially since i epoxy alot of stuff and oils don't do well with epoxy. Thanks for watching my friend 🙂
What is the size of the two pieces of steel? Thanks good video.
Since these are not going to be under any kind of real stress, would it be better to just not temper at all?
Can I use M5(slightly less than 1/4inch) bolts or should I use M8
i though it was a sharpening jig for us mortals. but, nice project!
Doesn't that suck that there are always viewers on UA-cam who think they gets to criticize what ever they want because they've already done it and did it way better than you did. It's a shame that you have to leave a disclaimer at the end of your video to shut these negative people up. Glad you did this tho, this is still your hobby, right? It's an expensive one, so we get the tools that we can afford when we can afford them.
Made perfect sense to me. But I have one question, a novice one at that. I'm curious as to why temper after the quench cycle since the steel already skates the file? Maybe this question was already asked, so I'll take a look at the other comments right quick...
Quenching brings any high carbon to its brittle point, and if he dropped these without tempering would crack or break them most likely, best was I could say is imagine dropping a glass plate vs a plastic plate
Someone buy that man a tap wrench! haha
NOOO NEVER!! I will use my cheap dollar store adjustable forever!
OUTDOORS55 A ratchet and a socket work just fine as well
Harbor Freight is my best friend for hand tools to.
Get a tap wrench or some tap sockets man. It hurt to watch the adjustable hammer.
@@joshrobinson856 heck metal that thin you could Chuck it in that drill. I used to watch our ASE mechanic run a tap in and out of engine block heads with a drill and it scared me half to death everything he did it!
What is that blue spray that you use?
I've seen and heard you say what is was in another video but forgot to write it down and can't remember what video it was in.
Never mind I zoomed in and found out it was Blue Lay Out Dye.
Can you tell a bit more about your bandsaw please.
Hi Alex!
Hi!
I was told by a blade smith not to lay pieces flat when tempering. is that a big bad? or is it just a personal preference thing? some people make their knives alot thinner than other people... so that could be the reason why they dont lay them flat when tempering? I am just curious if that can be a deal breaker resulting in the dreaded "ping" sound? i am a newbie to blade-smithing and forging so I have literally never ending questions haha.
Hey bro ham, when I worked for Boeing we had a drill lubricant called boelube and it came in liquid or stick form, it was great for helping drill holes in titanium, stainless, etc. You should see if you can get your hands on some. Also a true carbide drill is amazing until it shatters lol, we used to use them every day except I wasn't paying for them. Haha comment not related to this video but just wanted to let you know.
Wow interesting... i will definitely look into that. Thanks for the information 👍 i didnt know drill lube came in stick form. Might be right up my alley.👍👍
You’re videos are great! And the edge you can put on a knife is insane. I’ve been working on sharpening for a while and have gotten decent at it but can’t get to the hair splitting edge you get. I obviously know that the knife steel plays a part, I’ve watched practically all your videos where you go over this. My two questions are 1. Where you you say the brand/price point starts with a knife capable of holding such an edge without rolling over, the two best knives I have are a Case Trapper with the Tru Sharp SS blades and a USA made Kershaw that I’m unsure of the steel. The case is definitely the one I can get the sharpest but still not quite that sharp. 2. What is your opinion of diamond stones? I don’t recall ever seeing you use one. Thanks!
I use a an extra coarse diamond for profiling. I like it as it stays flat. Cheaper stones will profile almost the same but they dont stay flat. I have a whole set of dmt stones but rarely use the finer grits. I tent to stick with ceramic for the finer grits. Cuts almost the same but will last far longer. I like diamond stones but they wear out pretty fast compared to ceramic. Just my thoughts🤷♂️
I really like the video. Very informative and interesting. I do have a question though. Why temper at all? What are the drawbacks to leaving the hardness as is, after quenching in oil?
I had the same question, my guess was that the tool might crack when tightening the bolts.
@@jaradgarren2740 that seems to make sense.... I just asked the same question 2 years late...
What kind of grinder is that?
You could use these same skills to make yourself a tap handle. : )
Haha!😂 🤔
Looks like you covered all the bases for the machinist police 😂
When I make those I harden in water and no temper ,
You fixed your oven!
Just a loose screw. Its up and running now!
Is that going to dull files extremely quickly using them on hardened steel, even if they do bite some?
The idea is to use them as stops. Not to file into them. You will come in contact a little bit but not enough to affect the performance of the file.
OUTDOORS55 ah that makes sense, thanks.
Did you heat the oil before you dunk? if yes how did U heat the oil? if not, why not, your thinking here?
A lot of times file guides are hardened over 60HRC and files might still bite into them, so dont feel bad if you didnt get the heat treat nailed the first time!
It didn't bite after hardening but it bit after tempering so somewhere in the middle🤷♂️
OUTDOORS55 Well hey no one heat treats something right the first time! Your file guide works for you so it wasnt a fail! I’m glad to see the oven is working
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Machinist police hahaha.
Your videos, you should do whatever you want....
Denatured alcohol also works as a good “clean” lubricant and doesn’t leave residue.
Ive heard that too but always worried about a stray spark 🔥 🤷♂️
Whens the heat treating oven video coming out?
Soon...I still need to learn some stuff and spend some time with it. I have three videos back logged right now but it will be after thats at some point.
Is that oven for heat treat only, or you can use it for forging too ?
Heat treating only
Ah sold your soul to the belt grinder I see
Yep😀
heat oven works, good news :-)
So new to the channel great videos. You use windex as cutting fluid?
haha, yes. My primary goal is to keep the bits cool. Oil gets everywhere, and I use my little shop as a place to epoxy a lot of stuff. Obviously epoxy and oil dont mix, so I use whatever keeps the bits cool without the oil.
@@OUTDOORS55 ooooo ok cool no I like that idea I just did not know that would really work lol I have always used gear oil I may have to try that lol. Thank you for the response.
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Nice👍
Instead of windex I can use car coolant in a spray bottle and not worry about using oil and getting it everywhere. Plus coolants real cheap like $7 at Walmart for a gallon.
Coolant isn't safe for pets. It will kill them if they have even a little taste. Im sure you know this. Im just saying why I wouldn't use it.
OUTDOORS55 oh didn’t kno u had pets. Makes total sense. 🤘
you fix youe oven thats graet!!!! make a video abouth it!
Yep all fixed! I will !
@@OUTDOORS55 great men! congrats!
Do you need to temper at all?
Maybe🤷♂️ I did it as thats what everyone who is smarter than me recommends to do. Might be worth a try without, it will be alot more fragile though and I wouldn't crank down on the bolts.
Why not use heat treat oven 4 2nd heat
It takes forever to cool down to 375-400...well over an hour, with the door open🙂
not sure I understand what the actual purpose of this File guide is. When would you use this?
I wondered that too. I guess we are supposed to watch all of his previous videos to know that or already be professional knife makers.
Are you really using Windex as a cutting oil/coolant?
Yes
if you didn't temper it, would it ruin your files?
Its not ment to be ground into. You would ideally stop filing when you touch your file guide.
@@OUTDOORS55 that makes sense
What's up with the Windex? Is this a secret I need to start using?
Lol 😂
windex ?
Yeah
your oven works now?!
Yep! just a loose screw...and no, not the operator😉😂
What is a file guide? Do you do it chronologically or alphabetically?
Dewey decimal system.
Woah woah woah....hold up there, grinder police, are you sure you had that grinder spinning at exactly 1243 rpm if not you did it wrong.
I might have been off by 0.001 thousandths 😬
I saw many videos about this tool BUUUUT sincerly i don't see how 2 rectangular pieces of metal can guide you to profile and sharp a knife???????......
Machinist Police, too funny...
You need a tap wrench
NEVER!! 😉😂 I have one, I know I do, I just cant find it...🤷♂️
I know you can sharpen knifes and love the vids,so can you sharpen scissors,I think alot of us would like to see that,we have a guy that comes around and sharpens the barbers scissors with a machine,you know barbers have good quality,I bet you can do it free and thanks.
I can sharpen scissors if the scissors come apart or are designed to be sharpened. Most of the cheap ones you buy are not designed to be sharpened and you camt sharpen them properly. Im definitely not am expert on the subject though.
@@OUTDOORS55 I tried to sharpen my wife's scissors that she used at her flower shop and just couldn't get it done,she ha d the traveling sharpening guy do them when he came to town once a month to do the barbers,he had a machine and was tying to impress me I think with his machine,but I'm sure it can be done free hand,I just didn't have the right stuff or angle,but I could learn. I was sure you could.thanks for the input and the great video,I always like to carry a sharp knife,but now after watching your video I can learn much more about sharpening,and equipment,I just always used utility knifes for butchering, filleting fish or whatever,a steel and two or three sided stone that's it,I just orders I stop and some green chrome oxide,I think I will try to make a file knife,thanks again.
I see people quenching in water to make it even harder. So that files cant stratch it easily.
You can skip the tempering process and a file won't scratch it. Water isn't necessary for 1080 steel (which is what I used).
Lol the machinist police
Whatcha gonna do when they come fore you..
OUTDOORS55 make a long paragraph so you don’t have explain on camera the situation you are in and tell them you did the best you could with what you have
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What was that thing you made? I thought it was supposed to be a fling jig. You clamped a knife in it and filled the edge?? WTF? .
OUTDOORS55 looks like ur drill press is old lol
I have two, one is very old and one is new.
@@OUTDOORS55 I remember u saying that in an old video.
Is the one u use the better one?
No, my good one (the old one) has a broken chuck. I just need to order a new one. The new one is the one im using here and its just a cheap one.
@@OUTDOORS55 I bet they aren't cheap.
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It’s a good thing you didn’t bought it ya!