We don’t have that brand in the uk but with have a few comparisons. £1500 so lot cheaper than in your country , you could get a top end 4m inflatable with a 20-25 hp engine for 5k . Thinking of similar or a skiff probably with a 6hp Parsun that choose for carrying the 15 is quite a weight ok if you have trailer
Good honest review. I've tried inflatables before settling on RIB with fibreglass hull and inflatable pontoon. Only pro to inflatable is ability to deflate for storage/transport in every other area RIB is superior. If you want more space ditch chilly bin and use fish chilly bag. Can vouch for Hutchwilco Kai Cooler 700. They are also good for transporting gear when not used for fish.
hi , great honest video . one thing you said is that a catamaran isn’t great in rough water - however at the end you said if your looking at an inflatable then its the one to get & its the one im looking at so vs an inflatable keel boat , if you could start over would you still get the catamaran or an inflatable keel for nz coastlines ? thank you
If I could start over I probably wouldn't get an inflatable at all. Would go more for a mac 360 or any other small tiller steer boat with rigid v hull. Mainly because in rough water you need the v hull to cut thru waves. But... for certain applications... like yacht tender... or family fun boat... or rod fishing mostly in an ocean harbor... these inflatables are good. It really depends on the intended application. I found ultimately... these boats are too cramped for diving gear.
I notice you have a hydrofoil/permatrim. Have you noticed a difference? I have the 4M Discovery with a 15hp Suzuki. Only used it 2 times. First time with just my wife, went great, 2nd time with my 2 teenagers. It struggled to plane well. Do you think a permatrim would help????
I had a hydro foil on my 10hp. I made performance worse and increased cavitation. I learned that going down in pitch on propellor or getting a bigger outboard is actually the better solution to not getting on a plane. I'm not an expert on hydro foils, but some ppl love them and swear they improve performance.
Based on what you said, you ought to be using the 20hp, not 15. Pushing a 4m discover with 3 ppl only on 15hp? Your problem is it's a heavy load, and I doubt a hydro foil will help. You need a bigger outboard for 3 ppl. The max hp for the 4m discovery is 20hp.
@@snappagrabba Yep, but, these small boats are very weight sensitive when you start putting more people in. There's very much a tipping point where once you put in too many KG of weight (ppl) they won't perform the way you want. They don't tell you this when you buy these small boats. There are 3x solutions. 1) Use a bigger outboard 2) Put less kg (fewer ppl in the boat 3) Get a bigger boat with a bigger outboard. I went though this process with both my 10hp and 15hp and I was weighing everything going into the boat, counting KGs, buying 3x propellers, fitting hydrofoil. The reality is there's a critical point where you are putting too much weight in the boat and it will affect your planing performance. It's partially influenced by trim position, prop selection, sea conditions, wind conditions, but the main thing is the weight... and the power of the outboard. As I said there's 3x solutions as outlined above if you want 3 ppl in the boat. Choose 1. I made that choice, I ended up selling the entire boat and outboard and bought a bigger boat with bigger outboard. In the short term though, have a look at what prop you have and what the pitch is. You may need to go down in pitch, going down gives you more acceleration but less top speed. When I had my parsun 15hp 2 stroke (which takes yamaha props), I went from 11 inch pitch (stock) down to 9 inch. This helped with getting the boat up on a plane. But it'll only help a little bit, changing prop still won't help if you've got too much weight in the boat. Outboards can only push so much.
Great review! I'm evaluating this boat as a tender for a sailboat. Space and weight were the main considerations, for single handed maneuvering of the boat onto the deck and folding it for longer passages. I was disappointed with your review of the weight of this boat and it being a "wet" boat. The fact that you started using a trailer speaks volumes. And "wet" interferes with bringing provisions onboard (albeit they can be covered while getting to the sailboat). But getting to a marina to catch a tour of a location and getting wet before you even join the excursion... well, that's way too much. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching and commenting, You'll probably find no matter what yacht tender you use, they're all going to be wet just due to being very small in size. The thing about this boat, because the sides are so low to the water, even a small swell means water is going to splash into the boat. If you know you're always gonna be in flat water conditions... then you're alright. But the reality is the ocean is seldom "calm". And you can cut down on weight by using the smaller version, the discovery 2.8m and using a small outboard, like a 6Hp or even less, if you're only ever going a few hundred meters at a time to shore and back then you'd probably get away with something 3 or 4hp.The smallest discovery plus a small outboard would mean you 100kg boat becomes somewhere around half, mabey 50kg.
Dont get the wheels they are completely hopeless carry the boat then the motor - I made a alloy trailer out of a old ladder basic mig/argon then we use a rope 12 mm nylon and tow it up using a car tie to the boat couple loops around the tow hitch drive forward reverse tightn rope repeat -- The wheels are more rubbish in the way all the bits in the boat are in the way - hang the fish in the water now you dont need a chilly bin make a short hose for fuel tank tie it to the transom - pump the floor up 7.5 psi on this ?? the floors have strings between the top and bottom fabric 3.5 psi on the tubes ??? we have a quicksilver I now also have a 3 meter cat GOBOAT
This is the best discussion of these kind of boats. Eye opening, honest.
We don’t have that brand in the uk but with have a few comparisons. £1500 so lot cheaper than in your country , you could get a top end 4m inflatable with a 20-25 hp engine for 5k . Thinking of similar or a skiff probably with a 6hp Parsun that choose for carrying the 15 is quite a weight ok if you have trailer
Good honest review. I've tried inflatables before settling on RIB with fibreglass hull and inflatable pontoon. Only pro to inflatable is ability to deflate for storage/transport in every other area RIB is superior.
If you want more space ditch chilly bin and use fish chilly bag. Can vouch for Hutchwilco Kai Cooler 700. They are also good for transporting gear when not used for fish.
Cool the transom has the grills nice touch
Have you tried a 20hp? Most 15/20hp are same size/weight just different internal configuration/tune
Good to meet you in the street today Jamie! Keep up the good work brother!
Nice to meet you too
Awesome review Jamie! Really comprehensive 😁. I like the mounts you've added for your speargun/s, I must look into that for my inflatable👍
I had to glue them on with Bostik unigrip 999HR and Desmodur RFE crosslinker. Which weren't cheap. But it does the job, holds on the rib ports.
Why not try fishing?
Best review i have seen, cheers
hi , great honest video .
one thing you said is that a catamaran isn’t great in rough water - however at the end you said if your looking at an inflatable then its the one to get & its the one im looking at
so vs an inflatable keel boat , if you could start over would you still get the catamaran or an inflatable keel for nz coastlines ?
thank you
If I could start over I probably wouldn't get an inflatable at all. Would go more for a mac 360 or any other small tiller steer boat with rigid v hull. Mainly because in rough water you need the v hull to cut thru waves. But... for certain applications... like yacht tender... or family fun boat... or rod fishing mostly in an ocean harbor... these inflatables are good. It really depends on the intended application. I found ultimately... these boats are too cramped for diving gear.
@@KiwiKaimoana thank you
Thanks for that mate. Im getting one
Great review. Thanks
thats one handy little boat
I notice you have a hydrofoil/permatrim. Have you noticed a difference? I have the 4M Discovery with a 15hp Suzuki. Only used it 2 times. First time with just my wife, went great, 2nd time with my 2 teenagers. It struggled to plane well. Do you think a permatrim would help????
I had a hydro foil on my 10hp. I made performance worse and increased cavitation. I learned that going down in pitch on propellor or getting a bigger outboard is actually the better solution to not getting on a plane. I'm not an expert on hydro foils, but some ppl love them and swear they improve performance.
Based on what you said, you ought to be using the 20hp, not 15. Pushing a 4m discover with 3 ppl only on 15hp? Your problem is it's a heavy load, and I doubt a hydro foil will help. You need a bigger outboard for 3 ppl. The max hp for the 4m discovery is 20hp.
the weight of the outboard increases once you go over 15hp. Then it effects ease of transport etc.
@@snappagrabba Yep, but, these small boats are very weight sensitive when you start putting more people in. There's very much a tipping point where once you put in too many KG of weight (ppl) they won't perform the way you want. They don't tell you this when you buy these small boats. There are 3x solutions. 1) Use a bigger outboard 2) Put less kg (fewer ppl in the boat 3) Get a bigger boat with a bigger outboard.
I went though this process with both my 10hp and 15hp and I was weighing everything going into the boat, counting KGs, buying 3x propellers, fitting hydrofoil. The reality is there's a critical point where you are putting too much weight in the boat and it will affect your planing performance.
It's partially influenced by trim position, prop selection, sea conditions, wind conditions, but the main thing is the weight... and the power of the outboard.
As I said there's 3x solutions as outlined above if you want 3 ppl in the boat. Choose 1. I made that choice, I ended up selling the entire boat and outboard and bought a bigger boat with bigger outboard.
In the short term though, have a look at what prop you have and what the pitch is. You may need to go down in pitch, going down gives you more acceleration but less top speed. When I had my parsun 15hp 2 stroke (which takes yamaha props), I went from 11 inch pitch (stock) down to 9 inch. This helped with getting the boat up on a plane. But it'll only help a little bit, changing prop still won't help if you've got too much weight in the boat. Outboards can only push so much.
cheers, guess i'm leaving the kids at the wharf lol
@@KiwiKaimoana
Great review!
I'm evaluating this boat as a tender for a sailboat.
Space and weight were the main considerations, for single handed maneuvering of the boat onto the deck and folding it for longer passages.
I was disappointed with your review of the weight of this boat and it being a "wet" boat.
The fact that you started using a trailer speaks volumes.
And "wet" interferes with bringing provisions onboard (albeit they can be covered while getting to the sailboat).
But getting to a marina to catch a tour of a location and getting wet before you even join the excursion... well, that's way too much.
Thanks again.
Thanks for watching and commenting, You'll probably find no matter what yacht tender you use, they're all going to be wet just due to being very small in size. The thing about this boat, because the sides are so low to the water, even a small swell means water is going to splash into the boat. If you know you're always gonna be in flat water conditions... then you're alright. But the reality is the ocean is seldom "calm".
And you can cut down on weight by using the smaller version, the discovery 2.8m and using a small outboard, like a 6Hp or even less, if you're only ever going a few hundred meters at a time to shore and back then you'd probably get away with something 3 or 4hp.The smallest discovery plus a small outboard would mean you 100kg boat becomes somewhere around half, mabey 50kg.
Amazing video thank you
Good review Jamie
I think your ready for TV reporting
Keep up the good work
Love your vids 👍😃
Dont get the wheels they are completely hopeless carry the boat then the motor - I made a alloy trailer out of a old ladder basic mig/argon then we use a rope 12 mm nylon and tow it up using a car tie to the boat couple loops around the tow hitch drive forward reverse tightn rope repeat -- The wheels are more rubbish in the way all the bits in the boat are in the way - hang the fish in the water now you dont need a chilly bin make a short hose for fuel tank tie it to the transom - pump the floor up 7.5 psi on this ?? the floors have strings between the top and bottom fabric 3.5 psi on the tubes ??? we have a quicksilver I now also have a 3 meter cat GOBOAT
I find the wheels great - I've got the 4M version. No issue with the wheels, beats carrying it, even with 2 people carrying is a little awkward.