Why Did They Stop Making These? [Restoration]

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  • @HandToolRescue
    @HandToolRescue  8 місяців тому +395

    If I put this up for sale it will be on my website: www.handtoolrescue.com

    • @geoffbeyrent6950
      @geoffbeyrent6950 8 місяців тому

      There is a better tool for removing the rivet-heads from the name plate; use an old pair of wire cutters/dykes. Use a belt sander to flatten the side of the dykes where the edges meet up; this will allow the blades to slide under the rivet heads without significant marring of the nameplate

    • @hotcoffee5542
      @hotcoffee5542 8 місяців тому +4

      I want it!

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza 8 місяців тому +5

      Now that's what u call a sueyside shifter! :D

    • @Nobe_Oddy
      @Nobe_Oddy 8 місяців тому +4

      I didn't even know this was a thing... I would think that it only gets half the torque as a non reversible motor tho.. but I'm not too sure

    • @TrueHelpTV
      @TrueHelpTV 8 місяців тому +7

      Let me get my hands on this for a steampunk tricycle that will have a gasoline engine, electric motor, and steam engine all incorporated =P this would be the PERFECT electric motor to mount on my front rack for the front wheel drive (and gives me reverse due to bike weight) Food for thought =D

  • @cayankeelord3730
    @cayankeelord3730 8 місяців тому +1530

    I've been doing motor repair professionally for over 35 years.
    That "string" is lacing that was doped in-place to keep the winding leads, attached to the commutator segments, from being pulled out of position by centrifugal force. The lacing should have been redone and "doped" (cemented with high temperature motor winding epoxy ). If this motor is used for any length of time it will have a catastrophic failure due to this major oversight.
    There is a special tool used for "under cutting" the space between the segments of the commutator. The tool removes a precise amount of the insulating bedding material the segments are embedded in and chamfers the leading and trailing edges of the segments to reduce wear, chatter and arcing of the carbon brushes, a very important step in turning a commutator.
    Minimally, these two items should be corrected before this motor is put in service.

    • @Ax89
      @Ax89 8 місяців тому +199

      Good comment and explanation. I was wondering about the "string" removal.... It was originally there for a reason and removing and not replacing it without understanding it's function is not really a restoration.

    • @alspears7749
      @alspears7749 8 місяців тому +127

      I've been in servo motor repair for 24 years. You are exactly right sir.

    • @fredericdudley6184
      @fredericdudley6184 8 місяців тому +30

      Ya mota, fix it! (Parody of an old Midas commercial.)

    • @soul8bounce
      @soul8bounce 8 місяців тому +61

      This. Sounds like the Bearings/spindle housing could use a little love as well.

    • @robertschagen9016
      @robertschagen9016 8 місяців тому +93

      Also needs commutator re soldering. And a warning label to not leave the motor switched on in the neutral position.

  • @robertfranklin5523
    @robertfranklin5523 8 місяців тому +848

    Holy Crap! Speed and direction, one lever, no clutch. It's just bloody beautiful and elegant.

    • @Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez
      @Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez 8 місяців тому +18

      Yeah Tesla AC is way to go.... European Tesla vs American Edison, i do not want to be provocative but seeing how many things Americans do wrong way just because, but having positive example in Europe is ridiculous these days.

    • @markrainford1219
      @markrainford1219 8 місяців тому +7

      @@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez But Edison was European at some point in his history.

    • @Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez
      @Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez 8 місяців тому

      @@markrainford1219 Which one ?

    • @DeminicusSCA
      @DeminicusSCA 8 місяців тому +38

      @@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez where did tesla live when he was working on AC ? Nikola Tesla was a Serbian-American inventor, . but keep trying

    • @hellogoodbye3129
      @hellogoodbye3129 8 місяців тому +6

      USA! WHOOT WHOOT!​@@DeminicusSCA

  • @channel-ih6uj
    @channel-ih6uj 8 місяців тому +154

    As a retired auto mechanic I really appreciated this video. I remember the old days when we actually repaired and reconditioned things like starter motors and alternators, rather than replace them. Thanks for this great video.

    • @mrpitkin
      @mrpitkin 7 місяців тому +2

      Их и сейчас восстанавливают. Но не в вашей стране

    • @alicer6779
      @alicer6779 7 місяців тому +2

      They're made so cheaply that you'd be an idiot to try and have it remanned. We don't work on alternators and starters for that reason. Why waste the time waiting for a shop to repair it, only for it to save you like $20?
      Electric motors are still very much worth repairing.

    • @tomcraven47
      @tomcraven47 6 місяців тому +2

      "we" as a species still do - that's why there's a core charge. The old ones get rebuilt.

    • @miker252
      @miker252 5 місяців тому

      I still repair them when I can get the parts. Why trust some rebuilder when you can fix it with a five dollar bearing.

    • @alicer6779
      @alicer6779 5 місяців тому +1

      @miker252 because rebuilders that actually know what they're doing can tell you if it's burnt up or can replace rotten wires for you as well as any other problems that can occur.
      So many people walk into my shop and try to tell me how much they know, and within 2 sentences, I can tell they know absolutely nothing.
      "Umm, excuse me, aren't you supposed to put that on THAT way?"
      My response is almost always, "If you know so much about it, why did you bring it to me?"

  • @surfbyrd1
    @surfbyrd1 8 місяців тому +738

    Leland made a lot of specialty motors. Phase shifting, repulsion, induction and wound rotor motors. I love the designs of these machines and now they are quite rare as most have been scrapped or thrown out due to misunderstanding of them. I have a complete selection of them and would love to see them in a good home. I'm a retired Westinghouse motor designer and probably won't be around that long. I have many Leland Dynamotors too!

    • @1978garfield
      @1978garfield 8 місяців тому +64

      Commenting to help this post show up.
      Westinghouse Electric was an amazing company , as was Westinghouse Air Brake.

    • @HANKTHEDANKEST
      @HANKTHEDANKEST 8 місяців тому +37

      @@1978garfieldThe Westinghouse Air Brake was such an important invention, I think about it all the time. How miserable life must've been before it and how wonderful after it. Imagine setting each and every brake on every car manually--so sketchy!

    • @craigmclane5610
      @craigmclane5610 8 місяців тому +40

      Dad did Westinghouse submarine drives during the war and for years after designed and installed the servos for motor synchronization on big continuous-process lines for Westinghouse customers. He would have loved to see those ingenious Leland units! As a kid it was exciting to see the big machines get tested in East Pittsburgh.

    • @oddreign
      @oddreign 8 місяців тому +24

      Are you selling them?

    • @Sparky95
      @Sparky95 8 місяців тому +22

      I love old motors, especially ones that are unusual and cleverly designed like this.
      I'm 29, and my collection of vintage electronics is decent, but sadly lacking in motors. If you're interested in selling them to someone who will appreciate them for many years to come, I am definitely interested. Though I must admit, depending on price I can probably only afford a couple.

  • @stump68
    @stump68 8 місяців тому +250

    Been an Electrician all my life and never seen a motor like this. Pretty amazing and way ahead of its time.

    • @mrkv4k
      @mrkv4k 8 місяців тому +10

      I have. This kind of reguation was used on some old trams (tho those were working with DC, not AC).

    • @gregrice1354
      @gregrice1354 8 місяців тому +5

      SEE??!!! I knew it was a time machine control!!

    • @LouAlvis
      @LouAlvis 8 місяців тому

      any more on HOW this regulation worked? i dont think it was from adding resistance, but am unsure, I have DC motor application that would be useful for. as resistance doesn't reduce the total power consumed. when the power suplly is a battery total consumption of power becomes critical @@mrkv4k

    • @driverjamescopeland
      @driverjamescopeland 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@LouAlvis - what you're looking for is the mechanical PWM control. To be honest, they simply aren't worth it for applications of less than 100hp. Might as well buy a solid state PWM controller, or just carry more battery.

    • @TauCu
      @TauCu 8 місяців тому +9

      ​@@LouAlvis It's hard to explain it without graphics of some kind but I'll give it a go.
      All this is effectively doing is biasing the position of the attractive/repulsive fields of the rotor in relation to the stator. Eventually the field generated by the rotor will match that of the stator at that position and the motor will not move. Continue moving the brushes and the field will move the rotor in the opposite direction.
      It doesn't matter if it's a brushed DC motor or a brushed AC/Universal motor this method works the same way.

  • @dzymslizzy3641
    @dzymslizzy3641 8 місяців тому +252

    Though I am an old lady in my mid-70s by now, these kinds of videos bring back fond memories of being with my dad in his workshop, turning things on the lathe, and so forth. He could fix anything. If he needed a specialized tool he didn't have, he would design and make it. And he was from the generation that only had an 8th grade education!
    It makes me happy to see that there are young folks who still embrace these skills instead of just throwing things away. (And yes, at my age, "everyone" else is a youngster! LOL)

    • @adammason4554
      @adammason4554 8 місяців тому +9

      bless you RIP your dad

    • @amazing_bobson
      @amazing_bobson 8 місяців тому +10

      Jeez, I'm not old and I'm 80. :-)

    • @Tyrfingr
      @Tyrfingr 8 місяців тому +3

      I am 47 and my dad was just like that as well, mechanics or electrical things made no difference.

    • @fuzzywzhe
      @fuzzywzhe 8 місяців тому +11

      8th grade education back then isn't what it is today. I've seen educational books from the 1920's. Calculus Made Easy by Silvanus P. Thompson is an example, that was for "5th form boys". Children aren't allowed to be actually educated. Sure, they learn a bunch of nonsense, but they aren't taught actual information and knowledge. It's threatening the stability of our society.

    • @heathhalfhill6401
      @heathhalfhill6401 8 місяців тому +4

      Honey education only goes so far...you have to DO IT to gain experience. Experience always trumps knowledge. Stay blessed milady.

  • @1bowmaniam
    @1bowmaniam 8 місяців тому +162

    There's just something magical about seeing an old machine get cleaned up and sparked back to life. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 8 місяців тому +520

    “Reversing the motor adds material back…”
    Superb restoration and the exact amount of humor!

    • @AndrewKitayev
      @AndrewKitayev 8 місяців тому +11

      "Reversing the motor adds material back…”
      This is supposed to be the best comment!

    • @johnroberts3824
      @johnroberts3824 8 місяців тому +10

      I have one of those machines. I started with a simple 5/16 nut and kept adding material until I had an engine block. Still have the nut.

    • @Jeff92346
      @Jeff92346 8 місяців тому +12

      Going backward reverses the shop's electric meter too!

    • @HappyQuailsLC
      @HappyQuailsLC 8 місяців тому +4

      Reversing the video does so, as well.: )

    • @paulcutty8048
      @paulcutty8048 8 місяців тому +2

      Lol I did not see that coming.

  • @davidnaylor3876
    @davidnaylor3876 8 місяців тому +4

    Having done work on hydroelectric plants built in the 1900s brings back great memories thanks for sharing Rincon Indian Reservation Valley Center California

  • @swede178
    @swede178 8 місяців тому +583

    There's something special about those small oil filler ports with their little lids... love them!

    • @grntitan1
      @grntitan1 8 місяців тому +29

      Gits oilers.

    • @swede178
      @swede178 8 місяців тому +13

      @@grntitan1 thank you! I now have the correct word.

    • @AdmiralDG
      @AdmiralDG 8 місяців тому +12

      Like the sight glass oilers, just more special. Or primer cups on antique cars!

    • @kyleh3615
      @kyleh3615 8 місяців тому +18

      On my oldest jeep, the generator and the distributor use the same oilers

    • @Matt-my7pz
      @Matt-my7pz 8 місяців тому

      Absolute shit garbage! Bushings where there should be bearings and plastic clips where there should be fasteners or metal clip rings. Ugh appliances man, hate the design to fail horseshit! ​@HazardXXX

  • @user-tn1hk6zm2freedom
    @user-tn1hk6zm2freedom 8 місяців тому +398

    I am 73 year old and this is the first time I have seen a motor like this one. Excellent!!!!!!

    • @a0cdhd
      @a0cdhd 8 місяців тому +14

      I'm 73 years old too and I have never seen one of those motors either. Not even after 20 years as an electronics technician. Bloody hell if it ran on 220VAC I'd buy the damn thing!

    • @DOGPC44
      @DOGPC44 8 місяців тому +10

      I'm 74 and this is the second time I have seen a motor like this one!

    • @swampwatermusic
      @swampwatermusic 8 місяців тому +15

      My grandfather would be 109 today and he had one of these mounted on his workbench in the basement. I remember fiddling with it as a kid and never knowing what it was for!

    • @ssaraccoii
      @ssaraccoii 8 місяців тому +18

      I could see that they were shifting the neutral point of the brush rigging (worked on lots of DC equipment), but never seen this on an AC motor. This is one of the most clever ways to make an AC, Variable-speed, reversible motor control. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @stoveboltlvr3798
      @stoveboltlvr3798 8 місяців тому +6

      Me too. Worked in maintenance for many years, saw some old stuff but never one of those.

  • @thoughtfulkayaker8065
    @thoughtfulkayaker8065 8 місяців тому +4

    Takes me back to time spent in a motor rewind shop in the US Navy, when I learned how things worked. I still have and occasionally refer to my copy of Rosenbergs. Very nice restoration, with proper respect for an old tool.

  • @CalicoShadowPlusCat
    @CalicoShadowPlusCat 8 місяців тому +251

    The wiggle of the ear proves the commitment of the craftsman to the necessity of the head smash! Another wonderful restoration! Always tell my friends to watch and enjoy your videos!

    • @Mishn0
      @Mishn0 8 місяців тому +3

      The Bulgarian judge only gave it a 3.5.

    • @haydenc2742
      @haydenc2742 8 місяців тому +4

      I good...I wasn't the only one that saw that...

    • @RuralTowner
      @RuralTowner 8 місяців тому

      Ditto @@haydenc2742

  • @mm9773
    @mm9773 8 місяців тому +2129

    Still the only intro I don’t skip.

  • @chriscubbernuss3288
    @chriscubbernuss3288 8 місяців тому +19

    The last few minutes explained the concept WAYYY better than the online course I'm taking at work!
    Great job!!

    • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper
      @Skinflaps_Meatslapper 8 місяців тому +1

      If that explained more to you than the online course you're taking, then your online course was made by a toddler and you just wasted your money. He didn't explain much of anything beyond making an analogy, similar to how one could say voltage is like water pressure and amps are like water volume...it helps you to get your brain in the basic frame of mind needed but teaches you nothing about electrical theory.

    • @Adelaide-audits.
      @Adelaide-audits. 8 місяців тому

      😅😅😂😂😂, practical allows for you to work out your own process. Unfortunately practical experience is only after you have ya ticket, but this vid is awesome for history etc

  • @phillipwarner4498
    @phillipwarner4498 8 місяців тому +114

    Love the way your videos move along. I almost never skip ahead. You have found the right balance between showing the essentials, yet not belaboring the point. Also love the comedic touches. Great work.

    • @nathans1978
      @nathans1978 8 місяців тому +2

      Agree totally

    • @codh3gro
      @codh3gro 8 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, his pacing is really nice. The loud things are also not deafening like some of these restoration channels

  • @joshfick4107
    @joshfick4107 8 місяців тому +107

    Glad I could have a very small role in bringing this crazy motor back to its former glory!

  • @foureyedchick
    @foureyedchick 8 місяців тому +5

    I watched this video closely. The amount of work involved in restoring it is absolutely MURDER! The one important step which I believe was skipped is checking the windings with an ohmmeter. I also think a high-voltage should have been applied to test the leakage of the insulation of the windings to the case (and hope and pray and keep fingers crossed) it passes the test! The engineering involved in designing this old motor is awesome.
    Your job of cleaning it up with extremely hard work is excellent!

  • @Ozymandias2x
    @Ozymandias2x 8 місяців тому +171

    Came for the thumbnail that looked like a baby minigun, stayed for the '90s sitcom intro.
    (and then sat through the whole video because it's great)

    • @HandToolRescue
      @HandToolRescue  8 місяців тому +10

      Thanks!

    • @DoritosGoBrap
      @DoritosGoBrap 8 місяців тому +7

      Same here😂

    • @Godfirst9845
      @Godfirst9845 8 місяців тому

      Same

    • @AUXdrone
      @AUXdrone 8 місяців тому

      Oh, y’all new here. Welcome. Stay a while.

    • @manthon86
      @manthon86 8 місяців тому

      Lmfao SAME!!! Saw someone post still the only intro I don’t skip and I was like I have to see this because I can’t stand these elaborate intro’s. He was right. Very well done, funny and clever. Nicely done HTR 👍👍 two thumbs way up (just like they said in the 80’s & 90’s)

  • @jeffcamp481
    @jeffcamp481 8 місяців тому +107

    An old repulsion induction motor! With exterior reversing handle. I had one I would play with, years ago. Repulsion induction motors are known for their torque and that they are reversed by moving their brush cluster. Not seen much today, a personal favorite! Great job!!

    • @mikefochtman7164
      @mikefochtman7164 8 місяців тому +14

      Yup! Learned about these in the Navy many (too many) years ago. Notice no external wires to the brushes. In these they are just used to short specific bars of the commutator together. Changing the angle changes which coils of the rotor are shorted in relation to the stator winding.

    • @mumiemonstret
      @mumiemonstret 8 місяців тому +4

      Thank you so much for the name! I had one of these, quite new in fact (made maybe 15 years ago), on my honey extractor and I was curious how it worked but didn't know what to google.
      I guess they are mostly superseded by VFD, i.e. semiconductors replacing ingenious electromechanics as usual.

    • @WyckedSludge
      @WyckedSludge 8 місяців тому +7

      @@mumiemonstretMy gut tells me that these motors are probably insanely inefficient at anything below max speed. You're essentially making a space heater that can rotate as a byproduct.

    • @bertram-raven
      @bertram-raven 8 місяців тому +4

      @@WyckedSludge That is true, but you save on heating your workshop 😄

    • @750kv8
      @750kv8 8 місяців тому +4

      I'm sorry to say but this isn't a repulsion start induction motor, much rather a universal motor. This one lacks any mechanism that would disengage the brushes and short out the rotor windings once it reaches near synchronous speed, to which this doesn't seem to 'pull into'. It just seems to spin at an arbitrary speed controlled by the lever.

  • @shanew.williams
    @shanew.williams 8 місяців тому +2

    Great vid ! That fibrous material you removed @3:07 was there a a kind of "wicking" or a tiny "sponge" to help hold the light machine oil that was squirted in from a can into the spring loaded metal cap opposite the bearing to lube it. This was routine maintenance on most quality motors, generators & starters of the era. But the bearings lasted too long that way so they adopted the modern "maintenance free" bearings.

  • @philippelaurent3776
    @philippelaurent3776 8 місяців тому +195

    Cleaning the copper from between the bars must have been so fun. Good job!

    • @HandToolRescue
      @HandToolRescue  8 місяців тому +125

      The asbestos potential makes it more fun...

    • @Floris_VI
      @Floris_VI 8 місяців тому +10

      ​@HandToolRescue nothing better than asbestos in your projects😍

    • @horatiohornblower868
      @horatiohornblower868 8 місяців тому +8

      There are special lathes to clean a rotor. Squash demonstrated one lately.

    • @SYS-dc6uo
      @SYS-dc6uo 8 місяців тому +7

      There's nothing better than freshly grinded asbestos smell in the morning

    • @zbradbell
      @zbradbell 8 місяців тому +13

      @@HandToolRescue do you have an armature undercutter? maybe need to go rescue one.

  • @rumdog117
    @rumdog117 8 місяців тому +34

    That brought back some memories. I was in the Coast Guard and stationed on diesel electric large bout tenders in the great lakes. They used two engines connected to generators that put power to a main motor, connected to the single shaft and prop. Just imagine that motor being 10 feet in diameter and switching back from full forward to full reverse constantly during the day while ice breaking or tending buoys. It's a sight to see. Thanks for the video.

    • @tubastuff
      @tubastuff 8 місяців тому +6

      You'd see motors this large in steel mill blooming mills used to reduce an ingot to a billet. Motor never turns more than a few turns before reversing, each pass squeezing the ingot a bit.

    • @deltasteve1
      @deltasteve1 8 місяців тому +2

      Look up Ward-Leonard

  • @1Dataware123
    @1Dataware123 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for your service. Saving instead of trashing. Awesome little motor.!

  • @taurengraybeard218
    @taurengraybeard218 8 місяців тому +30

    Hands down, the BEST restoration channel on YT. New uploads never fail to make my day just a bit better.

  • @TheWolfster001
    @TheWolfster001 8 місяців тому +45

    At 7:46, I was glad to see you add solder to make a better connection, I have seen so many fails, because people thought clamping would work by itself.. Saving all the old wire you could, showed me you respect the the makers.. Loved seeing you didn't modify it with modern bearings, using the old oiler's was a class move.. If you find out what it was made to power, please update it for us.. I love history, especially industrial topics.. IE Motors & Machines..
    Thank you for sharing, always a treat to watch..

    • @tonymayhew191
      @tonymayhew191 8 місяців тому +4

      I have one of these motors on an air compressor and one on an industrial fan. ❤😉

    • @robertweldy1941
      @robertweldy1941 8 місяців тому +9

      There is a special crimp tool for that type of sleeve and it is not lineman's pliers. Solder is not needed with the proper tool.

    • @jimmagnus1200
      @jimmagnus1200 8 місяців тому

      I have seen these on old hand-fed letterpress printing machines.

  • @hwfranjr
    @hwfranjr 8 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for The info on How this worked,The handel is a SPEED COMTROL and direction control device so NEAT

  • @imajeenyus42
    @imajeenyus42 8 місяців тому +260

    These sort of motors are apparently called "repulsion motors" ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repulsion_motor ). They seem to be very similar to a normal brushed AC motor (e.g. vacuum cleaner) but are wired up differently. My $0.02 for what it's worth. In a regular AC motor, mains current passes through one stator coil, through the rotor via the brushes, then out through the other stator coil. However, in a repulsion motor, mains is connected only to the stator coils. The brushes are shorted together. Depending on the angle of the brushes relative to the stator, that determines whether it runs fowards, backwards, or is stationary. It's now got me wondering if it would be possible to convert a regular AC motor into a repulsion motor with a bit of tinkering!

    • @synisterfox
      @synisterfox 8 місяців тому +22

      same! That would imply giving pseudo VFD capabilities to a motor that couldn't otherwise be outfitted with one.

    • @berni8k
      @berni8k 8 місяців тому +5

      Thanks for the info, i was wondering what type of motor this is. Never saw one like this

    • @dundasjunctionmodelr.r-jam8267
      @dundasjunctionmodelr.r-jam8267 8 місяців тому +8

      Not the same as vacuum motor

    • @42Hertzer
      @42Hertzer 8 місяців тому +14

      How repulsive! ;)

    • @ruben_balea
      @ruben_balea 8 місяців тому +10

      A lot of modern mains powered drills (at least from Bochs, DeWalt, Hilti and Metabo) have a brusholder that is turned to reverse rotation but the brushes are wired the same way as on models with a reverse switch.
      On some of them you can turn it partially and get lower speeds, but that's not the proper way since those have electronic speed controllers and some also 2 speed gearboxes, but I think all of them have an interlock to not allow the trigger to be pulled when the brush holder is in "neutral" or too close and the same way you can't reverse it while you have the trigger pulled

  • @dennisfariello4852
    @dennisfariello4852 8 місяців тому +24

    When I went to Electrician's Mate "A" School iin 1978 they taught us about variable-speed, reversing DC motors, but I've never seen one. So cool!

    • @NeilWhelchel
      @NeilWhelchel 8 місяців тому +2

      That is not what this is. This is an AC motor, and the brushes are not connected to power, they are connected to each other. (Shorted.) What is going on there is that depending on the position of the brushes, it is either including or excluding shunts (shorted turns) from the area of the rotor that is under the area of magnetic transition, so it is effectively a variable ratio.

    • @ixlr8677
      @ixlr8677 8 місяців тому +1

      im 68 an never seen one. dident no they exsited. snappy an cool. even now bet i could find a use for it.

    • @dennisfariello4852
      @dennisfariello4852 8 місяців тому +3

      @@NeilWhelchel Interesting. Makes sense - when they taught us about reversing DC motors, it was all handled in the controller. Variability in speed is simply handled by changing the voltage to the motor (DC). So I was wondering about this one.

  • @michaelkeeton4071
    @michaelkeeton4071 8 місяців тому +2

    I have 3 of these in some form or another from old printing presses 1890’s-1940’s. Love seeing someone restore them.

  • @michaeldale6560
    @michaeldale6560 8 місяців тому +115

    It's so wonderful that you don't add music, just the real sounds.

    • @kirkyorg7654
      @kirkyorg7654 8 місяців тому +3

      "cant please all the people all the time" i think covers that one better to have none than possibly drive away some viewers that don't like the music choice works for me

    • @donniemorrow6672
      @donniemorrow6672 8 місяців тому +2

      Oh,for heavens sake,I never noticed until you mentioned it,100 percent improvement over the racket

    • @jackjones9460
      @jackjones9460 8 місяців тому +5

      I like that every sound is related to what is happening.

    • @jamesparsons9022
      @jamesparsons9022 8 місяців тому

      @@jackjones9460that’s generally how sound works.

    • @ChrisMichaelsChicago
      @ChrisMichaelsChicago 8 місяців тому +1

      Gonna Sample them then track em for some Superb Industrial Metal Jam

  • @regibson23
    @regibson23 8 місяців тому +12

    I appreciate you actually restoring this. Most of these videos they just take it apart, clean it, throw a coat of paint on it and put it back together.

  • @MyFathersSon-e4w
    @MyFathersSon-e4w 8 місяців тому +1

    An absolutely beautiful restoration! My best friend in youth during our high school days was an apprentice at a electrical motor repair shop through the school co-op program. This was in the 1960's and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he was familiar with these motors! They were definitely quality built and meant to last!

  • @bvalt1
    @bvalt1 8 місяців тому +32

    Few things in life are more eagerly anticipated than a new HandToolRescue video!!

  • @AndyHullMcPenguin
    @AndyHullMcPenguin 8 місяців тому +135

    "reversing the file adds material back" Its these engineering insights I come here for.
    Why did I not know this before.
    On the down side, my fingernails are now four feet long.

    • @Benoit-Pierre
      @Benoit-Pierre 8 місяців тому +3

      20:47

    • @williamoorejr
      @williamoorejr 8 місяців тому +6

      I have a gold bar I want to try that out on

    • @davidtaylor8244
      @davidtaylor8244 8 місяців тому +1

      @@williamoorejr Snap LMAO when he said that

    • @1983MUD
      @1983MUD 8 місяців тому +1

      I'm speechless...

    • @Nozinbonsai
      @Nozinbonsai 8 місяців тому

      Yeah it's like wd40 for squeaky brakes. Some idiot does it and winds up in a school bus . Like through the side.

  • @davidbrun9197
    @davidbrun9197 7 місяців тому +1

    I loved that the mistakes were left in the video along with the funny parts. Great job restoring.

  • @jorgefsanchezmarin
    @jorgefsanchezmarin 8 місяців тому +13

    Ciertamente creo que ya NO existen más estos motores eléctricos. Una verdadera lástima!!. La ingeniería del siglo 20 sigue siendo FANTÁSTICA, simple, efectiva, durable y por demás confiable!!. Que pristina restauración. Felicitaciones señor!! 😊

  • @S0K0N0MI
    @S0K0N0MI 8 місяців тому +10

    The sound it makes when you vary the speed is so satisfying!

  • @AbqRealDeals
    @AbqRealDeals 7 місяців тому +1

    Not sure what I just watched. But I can appreciate the love this man has of his skill and craft. It's good to have the resources ($) to be able to do whatever you want, whenever you wish. I am envious. God bless!

  • @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
    @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 8 місяців тому +8

    very interesting and i have been a tool freak for most of my life of 78yrs. but i don't remember seeing one of these as all my motors are one or two speeds. But the main thing here is the absolutely perfect restoration of this motor. Thanks for just doing the work and not chit chatting about it. I'm a new subscriber today and hope to see many more of your creations and vintage tools.

  • @wills.9807
    @wills.9807 8 місяців тому +6

    What a great idea for a motor... it's got that slight tinge of danger even after the (most likely) better than new restoration.
    This is the kind of tool you just instinctively know not to turn your back on.
    What a great video. Thanks for making it!

  • @instabilitas
    @instabilitas 7 місяців тому

    I was in the Royal Navy and worked on commutators like this. We called the process skimming and undercutting. Skim on the lathe and undercut the insulators.. We would grind down the offsets on an old hacksaw blade to undercut so that it fit the slots. I enjoy watching your videos!

  • @feydout2211
    @feydout2211 8 місяців тому +7

    The lighting and composition of the head smash replay is genius

  • @tornabyss850
    @tornabyss850 8 місяців тому +14

    Not gonna lie. I subscribed immediately after watching your intro like 3 years ago and you have failed to disappoint.

  • @hawkdsl
    @hawkdsl 8 місяців тому +2

    Been here sense almost the beginning of the channel... I so enjoy HTR vids. One reason is I get to see something fully restored without having to do any work whats so ever! Still, the most bizarre machine I've ever seen was that Pogo Compactor. Learning to operate that thing without getting killed would be half the fun.

  • @------country-boy-------
    @------country-boy------- 8 місяців тому +29

    This technology is still very useful and much more durable in industrial environments than solid state motor controllers. However please be advised: when the motor is going full speed and then is slammed into reverse the motor will create a voltage spike in the line. Any delicate electronic devices sharing the house wiring may be damaged. This principle is refered to as dynamic breaking. (when a running electric motor is disconnected and leads shorted to rapidly stop it). The motor momentarily becomes a generator until the inertia is lost. The leads can also be shorted with a high amperage resistor for less violent breaking. This brushed motor most likely can also run on DC. Great videos. Watching from far far away.

    • @merendell
      @merendell 8 місяців тому +5

      It could probably be converted to run on DC but it did not look like there was any electrical connection to the brushes. the AC in the stator is inducing a current in the rotor windings with the brushes completing the circuit. The alignment of the brush position adjusts the bias of the resulting magnetic field and by extension the speed and direction. The video's analogy of the water wheel is a good enough layman's explanation for what's happening magnetically.
      If the stator wiring is laid out how I suspect it is there would not be any significant adjustments needed there. Just connect DC voltage to generate a static magnetic field. The brush rigging however would need to be insulated and have its own power supply added to the brushes. You'd loose the speed variability with moving the lever however as you control the speed by adjusting the voltage. It would make setting neutral a lot easier but moving it around would just make your brushes spark while running.
      Honestly this thing is unique enough that I wouldnt even want to try. DC motors have their own design and theres no reason to try and cludge this interesting bit of old tech into being a DC motor that would be inherently temperamental unless you locked down the lever so it couldn't move.

    • @AntiCoruptionCentral
      @AntiCoruptionCentral 8 місяців тому +4

      *braking* ;)

  • @joentexas
    @joentexas 8 місяців тому +4

    Bent handle was probably an indication of the predominate direction the motor was used. Maybe high speed in one direction, (hard over) and slow speed in the other direction negating going hard over. Good stuff. We were taught shifting the field for speed and direction but never had our hands on it. Thanks.

  • @druemancospr
    @druemancospr 8 місяців тому +2

    The content, the intro, the hands. This channel is top tier.

  • @PaulPassarelli
    @PaulPassarelli 8 місяців тому +61

    Reversing the filing machine... That was a gag worthy of This Old Tony.

    • @alextullis5658
      @alextullis5658 8 місяців тому +3

      Without a doubt. This Old Tony is one of my favorite machinists on UA-cam

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 7 місяців тому +1

      Addictive filing. Whhat a good concept. It could be a way out when you make something too short. Addictive filing would give you plenty of time to ponder your mistake.

  • @michaelhamilton3778
    @michaelhamilton3778 8 місяців тому +10

    That is so cool. I rebuilt 3 of those, one was just about identical without the tags. One of the other two had never been out of a box. And was 100% old new…… cool stuff man👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🍺 (you just moving the electrical field to reverse it) Great For Old School Lifts. Just hook it up to a reduction motor. And you’ve got some serious power!

  • @DaveBrews
    @DaveBrews 8 місяців тому +1

    Awesome Restoration! I've used one of those before at my retirement job to test the alternators I've rebuilt. Your video brings back memories.

  • @ThomasWinders
    @ThomasWinders 5 місяців тому +7

    The analogy with water is brilliant, to say the least. Haha! Reversing the file puts material back!

  • @EnGammalAmazon
    @EnGammalAmazon 8 місяців тому +3

    Brilliant! I've never seen one of these, but as soon as I saw the handle I knew exactly what it was. Thanks for a very informative video.

  • @susanmast4393
    @susanmast4393 8 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for the video. I remember my dad taking apart motors to fix them. Such a simple and maintainable motor. Too bad we don’t have similar nowadays.🎉

  • @ianmaddams9577
    @ianmaddams9577 8 місяців тому +13

    Immensely satisfying watching paint being removed in the blast cabinet

  • @jhonbus
    @jhonbus 8 місяців тому +16

    I'd been feeling particularly down and sorry for myself but watching this video took my mind off things. Then at the end "Reversing the file adds material back" you got me.
    Thanks for the laugh, and for all the work that goes into these videos. It's appreciated more than you might know.

  • @harrybarry2291
    @harrybarry2291 8 місяців тому +1

    Hats off to you. You are a real "craftsman", not a "Crapsman". I have seen too many nice antiques and nice things ruined by Crapsman. I have never seen a motor like this, very nice. Thanks for saving it from scrap. If I were you, I would add it to your collection.

  • @RestorationVideo
    @RestorationVideo 8 місяців тому +22

    *_One of the very best restoration videos I have seen on the internet. And the camera work, and showing detail was absolutely first rate. Excellent video!_*

    • @baseddoggie
      @baseddoggie 8 місяців тому +7

      That's because this is one of the only restoration channels that isn't fake.

  • @junkboxgarageOG
    @junkboxgarageOG 8 місяців тому +5

    Yes!!! I’ve been waiting for a new video. Good thing I’m at work and I’m completely willing to stop what I’m doing to sit down and watch this.

  • @kevinfoster1138
    @kevinfoster1138 8 місяців тому +1

    WOW I've got to say I've seen this on a UA-cam short haven't watched this video but I can already say it is gorgeous when you're done. Fantastic!

  • @ericfredrickson5517
    @ericfredrickson5517 8 місяців тому +17

    Interesting motor; I've never seen, nor heard of such a thing, and I have friends that have come across a lot of unique equipment.
    I have been able to weld cast iron with a wire feed welder, and it's held up perfectly. I first discovered it would work, after my dad tipped over our Harbor Freight drill press, and broke the platform crank in two. I made the obligatory double-groove grind for the braze, and thought I'd try out my new wire feed welder, with ER70-S7 wire, just to tack the edges together. It went really nice, so I thought I'd make a base pass.
    That went so well, that I welded it completely, and it never broke again, even after scrapping it some 30 years later. That went so well, that I welded a huge crack in my neighbor's 390 Ford exhaust manifolds. He held the rosebud down there to keep it cherry red, and I made pass after pass, filling in the gap. He drove it for several years, and they still weren't leaking 15+ years later, when he sold the truck.
    I found cast iron welds at a much lower temperature.

    • @dmclegg66
      @dmclegg66 8 місяців тому

      The key to welding cast iron is preheating and post heating don't let it cool fast after welding keep heating it and slowly let it cool that keeps it from cracking.

    • @ericfredrickson5517
      @ericfredrickson5517 8 місяців тому

      @@dmclegg66 It was Christmastime, and he drove it home.

  • @45Deere9500
    @45Deere9500 8 місяців тому +5

    I need one! Don't know how many times I've wanted/ needed to add material back. 😂
    Great video as usual! Thanks.

  • @emilerose1424
    @emilerose1424 8 місяців тому +1

    A homerun restoration. Beautiful. You really knocked it (and almost yourself) out of the ballpark. Thank you.

  • @berryj.greene7090
    @berryj.greene7090 8 місяців тому +3

    Very interesting! I've never seen this precise device before. The commutator is just a switch that applies current to successive windings as it rotates. The electromagnetic forces make it turn. However with the extra brushes you can produce two fields that will balance each other at the central position. In theory it will then be drawing a minimal current due only to eddy currents and any losses. It's a very interesting concept. I think that string should have been replaced and lacquered down with a shellac of some kind as it supports the wire ends of the armature (rotor?) coils. Good job and instructional video. I wonder what it was used for?

  • @RonaldFuest
    @RonaldFuest 7 місяців тому +3

    Years ago, my father had a business rebuilding motors. He would strip them down to bare metal, rewind new coils, refit new bronze bearings and paint the external parts. He used some type of white wool in the oil wells, not cloth. Originally, the winding wire was cotton-covered enamel. When wire insulated with Formvar came out, he switched to that. I remember him cutting Holland cloth for insulating windings. Also, I remember him carefully redoing the armatures, including undercutting the material between the commutator bars.
    This was in the 1940s and '50s. It seemed like a lot of work, but I suppose it was feasible for specialized motors at the time.
    th

  • @Hippielettuce76
    @Hippielettuce76 Місяць тому +1

    Dude, that intro had me rolling. That is the most funniest thing I’ve seen on UA-cam in a while excellent intro, brother that was freaking awesome.

  • @DexKoontz
    @DexKoontz 8 місяців тому +6

    An almost lost art/science. Until my grandpa died at the young age of 58 in 1959, he owned Vandall's armature rewinding shop in Des Moines, IA. I loved being in his shop. Fantastic video!

  • @Archaya.
    @Archaya. 8 місяців тому +7

    That pause when you pulled the wire out of the shrink tubing killed me

    • @burtharris6343
      @burtharris6343 8 місяців тому +1

      I had to chuckle about that, but then felt a bit guilty about it.

  • @bindivenmars
    @bindivenmars 6 місяців тому

    Beautiful! I love to watch true artists working at the crafts they're passionate about. Metals of any type seem to be some of the most difficult mediums to manipulate, but some people do it so effortlessly that it looks quite easy. I appreciate the details to everything you did really.

  • @thatbillguy5211
    @thatbillguy5211 8 місяців тому +14

    Im studying to be an electrician, we have one of these ate school. They went the way of the dodo when cheap inverters/speed controllers became available, because they have a massive flaw many other motors share; it has brushes, and brushed motors require maintenance much more often than induction motors. Asynchronous motors on the other hand only need yearly lubrication of their bearings for the most part.

    • @guillaumepare9651
      @guillaumepare9651 8 місяців тому

      What maintenance?
      Decades ago, I had a Dremel prcision tool. From times to times I had to check the brushes. Two 5 cents caps, then the spings and brushes at the tips of them. Changing brushes that were about to fail or were gone were like a 5 min operation at most.
      Brushed engines have cons but they also have pros.

    • @philhunt9297
      @philhunt9297 8 місяців тому +7

      No mechanic or anything other than a wise old fart but
      Just take a good look at anything made in the past 30/40 years and is it still working and/or repairable?
      Most of 'todays' goods are made for 'the throwaway society'
      Yet 60+ years ago they built machines to last - yes they had to be maintained / serviced but they lasted and repairing them was easy.
      40 years ago my dad got 3 non running twintubs (washing machine) from an auction - from those 3 he made one functional....for my first home.
      Now...I'm looking for a pre '86 car [pre engine management/pre computer/pre electronics because they're easy to maintain and hardly anything goes wrong except body rot and crashes....nowadays a simple rear end shunt will write a vehicle off.
      Not having a go at the younger generations just offering a different reasoned perspective

    • @gizzyguzzi
      @gizzyguzzi 8 місяців тому +2

      tragic that serviceable motors with brushes are seen as a flaw, to be replaced by disposal non-serviceable motors.

    • @burnedupsparkytipsandrevie9597
      @burnedupsparkytipsandrevie9597 8 місяців тому +1

      Induction type squirrel cage motors still need Condition based monitoring. And older plants still use brushed motors because of longevity and ease of service

    • @TheGryxter
      @TheGryxter 8 місяців тому +1

      @@philhunt9297 Truer words were never spoken! Throw away society is spot on. Why build it to last when you can get suckers to buy a new one every 3 years. Good luck finding a washing machine that will last longer than 5 years. God forbid you have to open the tiny flip top lid and add a few drops of oil twice a year! "Yeah too much work, I'll just buy a newer on". God craftsmanship and solid components. That is exactly why he was able to restore this neat little motor. Quality work in the manufacturing process, something lost on todays CEO's. Greed is king.

  • @donwillman4587
    @donwillman4587 8 місяців тому +5

    To put it simply, the electromagnet created in the windings is interacting with the fixed magnets in the casing. As you move the location of the brushes, you're changing the direction and efficiency of push. As you move further away from center, the motor gets more and more efficient- ie: more speed.
    The energy is still going through the armature in other positions but- instead of creating torque, it's creating heat- which it likely why they're not made anymore. Too many barn fires.

  • @Turk380
    @Turk380 8 місяців тому +1

    the sound of it winding up was so unexpectedly satisfying! I immediately though of the old Time Machine movie or something.. all you needed was an old flap wheel date counter readout in the background.

  • @waxore1142
    @waxore1142 8 місяців тому +54

    Finally someone that knows how to join wires and use heat shrink.

    • @user-lb8do4ew6k
      @user-lb8do4ew6k 8 місяців тому +7

      Tbf he used an LB as a switch box too. 😂😂😂

    • @HandToolRescue
      @HandToolRescue  8 місяців тому +11

      @@user-lb8do4ew6k Muahahaha. I needed a small switch box solution that mounted where the original was missing.

    • @gshingles
      @gshingles 8 місяців тому +4

      @@HandToolRescue I have been warned against soldering crimp connections though. "They" say the solder acts more like a lubricant than a solemn commitment; "they" possibly being old wives though. In a situation where nothing is moving much I don't think it matters.
      Nice job as always of course.

    • @Sun-ut9gr
      @Sun-ut9gr 8 місяців тому +2

      @@gshinglesIt's not a common practice but I've seen it in aerospace cables. Makes for a bitch to rework/repair though lol

    • @gshingles
      @gshingles 8 місяців тому

      @@Sun-ut9gr Hey, not saying I don't do it occasionally :)

  • @Brainbusta86
    @Brainbusta86 8 місяців тому +4

    At 20:45 I spit out my coffee. Thx a bunch :D

  • @conniewojahn6445
    @conniewojahn6445 8 місяців тому +1

    I love old tools and have a collection which started with my father's 1930's hand tools he actually used. I display them and don't redo them because I feel they've worked hard during their lifetimes and deserve to rest in retirement, and because the look of wear and age means a lot to me. However, I don't object to others repairing and redoing old tools if that's what they want. Having said that, I found this video oddly satisfying. Nice work!

  • @ou7shined972
    @ou7shined972 6 місяців тому +4

    Anyone else get the heebie-jeebies when watching an electrical device made entirely of metal that's operated with a polished brass handle and bare hands? 🤣

  • @hersch_tool
    @hersch_tool 8 місяців тому +2

    This is without question the coolest electric motor that I have ever seen. Why on earth is some company out there not making these? I would replace almost every single motor in my shop with one of these if I could get them.

  • @i-likemy-space7729
    @i-likemy-space7729 8 місяців тому +13

    Please don't divulge how to rewire a house so the power meter runs backwards.

  • @MrBlue142
    @MrBlue142 4 місяці тому +6

    I suggest you don't sell it.

  • @gwc43
    @gwc43 8 місяців тому +1

    There is a certain simple elegance to this design. Today we do it electronically & think we're so cool!

  • @adambutton6414
    @adambutton6414 8 місяців тому

    I love hearing the snap of the screws hitting a magnetized parts pan!!!!
    Thank You for giving me the vibrational strength to keep Truckin' on Brother!!!!

  • @SOLAR-cr5dp
    @SOLAR-cr5dp 5 місяців тому +1

    Wow! I saw this for the first time when I was an apprentice in 1972! If I remember correctly, it was called an induction-repulsion motor! Thanks for taking me down memory lane!

  • @owenclint4455
    @owenclint4455 5 місяців тому +1

    Running the file backwards puts metal back on - that’s a good one. Made me choke on my coffee. I love your channel

  • @ironwrx
    @ironwrx 6 місяців тому

    I love these videos. I too like to restore old tools, and equipment. I don’t always tear things down as far as you do, but sometimes just enough to get things working. My hat is off to you for your sticktoitiveness, and my head is getting cold. - Jon, Taylor Iron Works

  • @cmdr_ryker2083
    @cmdr_ryker2083 6 місяців тому +1

    I've been watching you from the start, absolutely love your stuff man. Don't change a thing and keep doing your thing

  • @josephjamison183
    @josephjamison183 7 місяців тому +1

    I love these old tools, I have a Desmond Stephen MFG Co old Vise from about 100 years again handed down to me, it will last forever.

  • @ForgottenTools
    @ForgottenTools 6 місяців тому

    I’m an electric motor mechanic myself and I must say I support this of course what we do is a little different might I suggest a caustic acid vat to clean parts it eats paint right off (not recommended for aluminum) and insulation paint for windings colors vary clear,red,black, green! Love the video! I’m 3rd generation myself see these kinds of things on a grand scale daily glad to see others appreciate it!!

  • @DireWolfForge
    @DireWolfForge 8 місяців тому +1

    Awesome work! Reminds me of my first job working on armatures and fields for Skil Power tools back in the 90’s. I think those “accessory screws” were to keep the bearings in place.

  • @Fire_Marshall_Bill
    @Fire_Marshall_Bill 8 місяців тому +1

    Man, that is one of the coolest motors I’ve ever seen!

  • @rayscrafield2106
    @rayscrafield2106 8 місяців тому +1

    I just found your channel and found this restoration very interesting. As well as the motor itself. I've never seen one like it. Now I have something else to else to search for. Thanks.

  • @tedtolentino4955
    @tedtolentino4955 8 місяців тому

    Beautiful restoration. Yes, why did they stop making these motors? Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @ipatchee007
    @ipatchee007 8 місяців тому

    What an incredibly wonderful little motor...and you resurrected it completely...very very cool

  • @jamesc7526
    @jamesc7526 Місяць тому

    a hand controlled reversing electric motor with manual variable speed........That. Is. Brilliant. The possibilities for use are almost endless.

  • @hinduwarrior123
    @hinduwarrior123 8 місяців тому +1

    Amazing to see this insane motor! Lots of love and good wishes from the Indian Himalayas ❤

  • @sigvar6795
    @sigvar6795 8 місяців тому +1

    Great stuff. This speaks to my soul. I think almost everything can be restored and I hate getting rid of anything that has a chance of being fixed. Subscribed and liked!

  • @tkalter
    @tkalter 8 місяців тому +1

    Well done restoration 🎉

  • @vdog4799
    @vdog4799 8 місяців тому +1

    Wow that was really cool. That's good stuff! That's the kind of thing my Grandpa would know how to do. I wish I had a head start learning stuff like that. Something about restoration warms my heart man. Plus I love the motor! I've never seen one like that. Well done Sir 😊👍

  • @williamterry3177
    @williamterry3177 8 місяців тому +1

    Great job! History brought back from the edge of the scrapper's truck. 👍

  • @BrockBerlin-hp4vs
    @BrockBerlin-hp4vs 8 місяців тому +1

    Great job, great work on the brazing of the casting, and the new finish. You do really good work. As mentioned below, the commutator under cut is important and a tool should be used; years ago, I used a lathe developed specifically for turning commutators. Also, the twine holding the windings in place at high RPM needs to be replaced.