Fly Fishing For Wild Trout In CRYSTAL CLEAR Water - Dukes Beat, River Lathkill
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- Andy heads off to tackle the spectacular Duke's Beat of the River Lathkill on the Haddon Estate. A truly historic piece of river with one of the purest strains of wild trout in the world, fly fishing for wild trout in the river Lathkill is a real challenge. The crystal clear water, dry fly fishing and wild brown trout on the dukes beat of the river Lathkill make for an incredibly engaging day's fly fishing for trout, but is Andy up to the test?! Enjoy - How To Fly Fishing For Wild Trout In CRYSTAL CLEAR Water - Dukes Beat, River Lathkill
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I tried nymphing for the first time today and caught a lovely brown trout on a little gold beaded gold nymph, only ever used dry flies so tried putting all the little tips and lessons I've learned from watching both of you's and it worked, I never even put a dry fly back on all day so thank you very much as it's a new weapon to my fishing arsenal
Very long leaders are the key lesson for me. Getting turnover on small rivers is certainly not easy, but well worth a try. Learned a lot from that vlog Andy
I've seen you do it many a time Tim!
I used to sit on that bridge feeding the fish almost every day 30 odd years ago there used to be some stonkers come out from under it , that whole stretch was teaming as was the Bradford to. Many happy memories down there . 🎣
Beautiful video Andy, flyfishing we all dream about, beautiful river stunning Brownies, dryfly and some excellent tips thank you. Tight lines
Thanks Chris! That place really is the dream!
Loved this. Watched it after being at the lathkill myself today. That horrible rain didn’t stop the fish hammering the mayfly that was hatching. Lost three in a hour until it dried up and the risers began to stop. Will be taking a longer rod and leader next time I’m there!
They've definitely got on the mayflies earlier on here than the other rivers haven't they? Many thanks for watching and tight lines!
Hi Andy With moving away from the Midlands and huge changes in my life it’s been a while since I’ve even thought about trout fishing but in the middle of Cornwall I’ve found a amazing river with some beautiful tiny bars of gold but I’ve tried everything to catch one apart from using tiny mepps I’ve had no look on fly this video clearly shows the need for stealthy fishing hope you both well regards Dave
Absolutely, using a bit of stealth can be vital 👍👍
Knocking it out the park again Andy. Superb venue, educational commentary for us novices and a great lesson in stalking the wild fish. A1
Thanks James! Really helps when the venue is so pretty and the fish are playing ball!
Great fishing Andy, the narration is first rate. It really makes the vblog a pleasure to watch! Well done.🎣👍
Thanks nick, I like watching videos where I know what's going on so try to do the same! 👍
A lovely video Andy - really enjoyed - I fish the Lathkill further upstream than this - it isn't as secluded as this beat looks to be so we have to be a bit choosy on when we fish but it is delightful fishing albeit challenging - If you get back to Hampshire again I can highly recommend Beat 3 on the Dever at Bullington downstream from where you fished - hut at top of the beat and a path through woodland to the bottom - not sure if I posted that on your chalkstream series - I definitely agree that a stealthy approach with accurate delicate casting is essential on these type of waters - more important I think than the actual pattern (within reason of course) - Thanks - Steve.
Hi Steve, thanks for watching! I've not seen all of the river further up, does it look similar to this? We might possibly go back down to the chalk this summer, we're not sure yet, if we do we'll check out that beat. I think delicate is absolutely the word, approach, delivery, false casting - it's all got to be delicate - there were plenty of times I wasn't!
@@IBandAndyFishing - Hi Andy - I fish the stretch upstream of Conksbury Bridge and we go up as far as the source through the Dale - the stretch upstream of the bridge is similar but there are numerous weirs installed years ago which keep the depth of the river fishable - the further you go up the narrower and "smaller" the river becomes - some members have fished Tenkara tactics there but I have kept to the weir section which is dry fly only - public footpaths near to the river hence the need to be a bit choosy on times and it became virtually unfishable last summer due to picnickers and swimmers / boaters in the daytime limiting us to the last hour or so of daylight - or early morning before others turned up - as an aside the amount of litter left last summer was disgraceful and the parking so inconsiderate - the river actually goes underground at low water levels further upstream - I remember a school visit to the area on that subject - Simon C. is the man to advise on chalkstreams - I have Bullington booked in September rolled over from last year - and Dunbridge which is a lovely tributary of the Test near Stockbridge - September is a good month as it is that bit cooler and plenty of fly life still - Tight Lines - Steve.
Well that video was quite simply a joy buddy. Loads of tips and a beautiful river. Look forward to your next one. Loved it .
Beauties so great that we put them back its like hunting with a camera and catching them briefly n not killing them awesome
Fantastic, thanks buddy! 👍👍
And what a great demonstration of how to handle fish with care and respect. Other UA-camrs could learn a lot from you, and I hope they do.
really grateful for that one, we get a lot of heat for lifting fish out for a few seconds but I'm very confident of how we handle these fish
Lovley to see someone enjoy what is a beautiful beat. I've been lucky enough to go there a few times but with no where near your skill.
Lucky enough to have fished the Duke's Beat a couple of times. Tough fishing indeed. Great video.
Great video again Andy👍.The lathkill is a stunning place. I was on the wye last week, there was nothing rising so prospecting was the way to go. Your caddis was very effective.
Great to hear bud! You'll be spot on with your new rod too 👍
Really good .... thought that first one was gone for sure. Always learn something from your films. Thanks a lot.
you and me both Andy, there was a but of language which ended up not making the final edit at that point!
Fantastic fishing, Andy! Almost every cast spot on for the fish I will try to learn the value of making haste slowly!
Thanks Kevin! I messed up as many as I got right that's for sure! It definitely went downhill after the second cast 🙈😂
Well angled Andy. Such a great feeling when you know you’ve fished well. Edit I’ve just seen the last half lol which made feel better about myself which proves my point in that we just know when we’ve fished well and those periods where we feel we could of done better. All the same those fish are stunning and three of those would make my season.
thanks Andrew! I fried myself in that second half, a mixture of time pressure, camera pressure and dehydration I reckon, I wasn't at my best that's for sure! Super happy with how it went though, I already think this will be my favourite vlog of the season!
Brilliant vid, Andy! Wonderful scenery and great, challenging fishing. Thanks
thanks bud, much appreciated!
Great vlog mate....lots for us to learn....great fishing, great river, stunning fish and scenery.......thanks again :-)
Thanks Mark! It's a gorgeous sport isn't it?!
Amazing scenery
That was some good angling to get that fish out. Well done bud.
a fair slice of luck involved too I reckon!
Great video & a fantastic bit of water that I had the great privilege to fish a few years ago.
Thanks David, a stunning stretch isn't it?!
Another great video Andy 👏 the backpack your wearing i bought the other week and its really good. It was the 22ltr Sierra i could only get, is that the same as you have on. I'd really like to see you and IB doing a wild brown trout reservoir video. Be interesting to see yous fishing it. I.e. kit, flies, approach etc. Keep up the videos guys.... really good 👍
in truth I can't think of many places around here where we've got wild brown trout in s stillwater. I think maybe Ladybower might have some, we're certainly no stillwater experts!
Nice drone shots of the river and scenary Andy , great looking fish . The cabin looks great , looks like you should be putting more sun screen on your nose and ears, stay safe say hi to IB .all the best from Downunder. 👍
Thanks Peter! I got a bit fried earlier in the season, being a bit more careful now I promise! A beautiful place isn't it?
Sure is a beautiful place Andy , over here in Australia we always make sure we put sun screen on , we have the highest cases of skin cancer it the world . 23 degrees today .
Nice work Andy, two great wild brownies in difficult circumstances.
Excellent tips on approach and presentation, top video 😁👍
Thanks Gary, make it look hard at times don't I?! This place can be rock hard, I was pretty chuffed in the end 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing I think it’s easy to get caught up in the excitement Andy, we’ve all been there and will be again. It was a great day on reflection but the perfectionist trait can create a focus on missed opportunities. Trust me I with you on trying to always learn for the next trip. That’s what sets you apart from the average angler. 👍
That's very kind Gary, given how often I look like a very average angler on this channel! The first fish was pretty sweet, I was happy with that one. Why can't it always go like that eh?!
@@IBandAndyFishing I guess it’s so we keep coming back for more. It’s all about the challenge and outsmarting the fish. Though fishing is also a great day out given the stunning scenery and watery locations. The Lathkill is all that and more with good hatches and abundant wildlife. I hope to fish it one day when I can organise a trip. If you guide on their it would be useful to have some details on booking information 👍
Thank you for another fine video from the lovely Derbyshire. Cheers Torben, DK
Thanks Torben, really glad you enjoyed it! How's DK fishing so far this season?
Hi Andy - unfortunately DK's small rivers and lakes are suffering from comorants great skills in catching fish. The grayling is near extinct and the brown trout not far behind. So I have given up on fishing the rivers in DK and only flyfish during my summer trips to Norway and Sweden.
That said there is still the seatrout, but when you like dryfly and nymphing it's not the same.
Do visit Derbyshire Wye from time to time - English married with family in Alfreton :-)
So your an IB's trips in the area are greatly appriciated - and I might be just a tad jealous. Cheers and keep up the good fishing :-)
That's a real shame about the DK rivers, I didn't realise the cormorants had gotten so bad there. Hopefully when the world goes back to normal you can spend some more time over here!
DK very unfortunately is the winter destination for most of Scandinavias cormnorants during the winter. But we have some 30.000 breeding pairs eating ½ kg fish each day.
Have seen the at reservoirs around Alfreton, so fingers crossed they don't get the taste for rivers !!
However, the Swedish and Finnish Baltic coast suffers heavyly as well (and with seals as well) and cormorants have started entering some of the Norwegian lake systems.
So count you self very lucky for your rivers.
(Mostly our visits are Xmas time...)
great day out with you - super video
Thanks Andy another gem for collection...
Thanks rich, I really enjoyed the day, a great challenge!
What a beautiful place that is. Great vid again 👌🏻
Thanks Mark, it's a stunning spot isn't it?!
Some fantastic fish in a wonderful looking river, great job and great cursing 👏👏
🙈😂 sorry about me!
Great video.
Thanks so much, really appreciate the support!
Gorgeous river nice a clear. Great video and some stunning fish well done
Thanks buddy, appreciate the view again, an incredible river isn't it?!
@@IBandAndyFishing It certainly is beautiful
Great video Andy, really enjoyed this one! Some spectacular scenery
Thank you very much!
Your skills are most impressive. Great vid Andy!
there was some fishing here which wasn't too impressive, but thank you very much Ernst!
Love the video and Andy presentation of the river tactics spot on. HOWEVER probably worth mentioning the price tag as greenword mentioned looks like its over £75 a session puts it out of reach of most "average people" when you factor in price of petrol etc. Nice to see a good river that clear and one can dream :)
I know where you’re coming from but it’s also quite subjective, since a day out at a football match isn’t exactly cheap nowadays.
Hi Goldtremor, yeah, I didn't mention cost because most folks can't get on here anyway, it isn't a day ticket water as such. As Andrew says below, compared to a decent seat at a football match or a night at the theatre it's comparative cost and plenty of average folks do those things every weekend. With the Lathkill the quality of the fishing drives the demand and the demand drives the price, and the estate are sensitive with it, it doesn't get fished very often either. It's a pretty unique situation
good point well made Andrew, plenty of average folk spend that every weekend on booze, football, shopping, theatre tickets etc....
Please can you do some beginners' guides to river trout fishing? I'm sure I am not alone in wanting to transition from still-water fishing to a wilder version of the sport in this post lockdown era. All your videos are fantastic but there is a great level of expected knowledge. Videos on equipment, how to find locations and why you use certain techniques would be massively appreciated, Many thanks!
Great vid Andy. Very honest and very instructive. Keep it up.
Thanks Paul, really glad you enjoyed it! We'll try to keep them coming!
Ah... my fly fishing dream, forget Iceland. Myself, the Haddon estate beats, a Di-7 line and an orange blob fly. Heading back to the peacock and telling them all I 'bagged up' and it was a cracking 'swim'.
Doing it for those of us without the time, money or ability to do so. Thumbs up.
Another cracking lesson, thanks Andy!
amazing views, amazing water, very unlucky though.. Nice fish caught tho. Well done, and that weee rant was class :D
A little glimpse of what I'm like when I'm fishing on my own bud, my own worst critic! 🙈😂
It's bloody hard that place, throw in cameras and a time limit and I was losing my head a bit!
@@IBandAndyFishing yeah I guess you need a second person to help with cameras but it heightens the possibility of spookyness.. IB was probably working right? I'm 100% sure you ain't the only one!
The likelihood is I won't get to fish this place again so had 4 hours to get a vlog filmed, it adds that little bit of pressure! Got there in the end, I think it turned out ok 👌
@@IBandAndyFishing well I like all the videos that are put out, this shows me just how intricate it is.. I've learnt alot from this video.. if you ever got the chance again I'm sure you'd maybe learn from this experience. I believe you would.. :)
Every time I go out I learn something bud, no doubt about it!
Looks like early April, never mind late May. It’s the same in Lancashire but last week I traveled down to the Clywd valley to Foxens tackle shop and what a difference the whole place was about a month further on.
bizarre isn't it, looks like there's a bit of summer round the corner though!
Fantastic video, you really captured the challenges and the tension. Have you tried Driffield beck?, very similar challenges but with the advantage of some monster grayling as well as stunning brown trout 🖒🖒🖒
WOW a 7 tippet i loose fish on a 6. Proper job!
Nice work Andy, it looked like some very challenging fishing. It certainly shows the value of patience. How do you get such long leaders with such small flies on the end to unfurl? When I try that it just ends up in a big pile a few feet off the end of my fly line.
A relatively heavy line, a furled leader, tapered tippet. Shorter stroke lengths and longer pauses, you'll be amazed at what you can turn over!
Thoroughly enjoyed that Andy, cheers from Germany!!
thanks Chris, you're rocking the new wrap!
@@IBandAndyFishing
Was a great weekend, even managed a surprise char!.
The neck scarf is top quality andy!!
Amazing river and fish. Great vlog as always.
Thanks nick, a total stunner of a stream isn't it?
@@IBandAndyFishing i will save my pennies and have to come and try it under your supervision
As you'll have seen I can gladly supervise the spooking of half the trout in Derbyshire! 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing 😂
Don’t beat yourself up too much over spooking a few of those fish Andy. You made what is very difficult conditions look far easier than it really was. Great to see out on some water actually fishing instead of guiding.
It's a really tough river, I was pretty chuffed with how it turned out in the end. Its bloody frustrating spooking them off a sz20 landing though 🙈😂
My favorite video in quite awhile because you were teaching
Thanks Stephen, will try to keep things like this coming!
Great vlog. Thanks 😊
thanks Charlie, glad you enjoyed it!
Wow, that water is clear clear. Do you use all fluorocarbon in that leader?
Love this one Andy! Great to see the stalking .
Just a question, I seen that you used floro for you drys, I thought that floro was only really used for nymphing??
Thanks bud, this was a really fun one to film! That's interesting, why would fluoro only really be used for nymphing?
Favourite river that is
Mine too I think bud!
Hi andy you lucky sod .. what a place to fish looked great and top trout .. noticed in last two vids your using same reel as me how do you find the mtx s mate ? Cheers for sharing andy
I really was very lucky, it's an incredible place to fish!
It's a fabulous reel, I've been really impressed so far, we might possibly film a short review on it if enough folks ask. How have you found yours?
@@IBandAndyFishing hi find it great andy bought it with a 9ft 4wt ultralight amazing combo for dry fly been using it from march an no probs so far andy
That single turn drag is brilliant isn't it?!
@@IBandAndyFishing it was my reason for buying it after i saw hardy Howard's review on weight an that snazzy drag ☺
finally a video with language befit of a fly fisherman !!!
had a little meltdown there didn't it?!
@@IBandAndyFishing everyone who has a fly rod does haha
thats a great spot,have to say its also the reason fly fishing is not as big as it should be as all the great streams for trout are no go for so many people and unless you like still waters you dont have much choice?
Hey can you recommend a fly combo reel and rod to start out with something below a £100 if possible?
Looks a cracking beat.
A stunning spot isn't it?
@@IBandAndyFishing Looks peachy!
I wish it was a bit easier at times though 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing I feel your pain writing, directing, camera man and presenter! On top of that you have to do a bit of fishing.....lol.
As much as I understand it, I hate how elitist a lot of fly fishing is. As a student it’s almost impossible to afford paying for club membership a that are £200+ a season. It just means younger people like myself get excluded from most fly fishing locations.
in the southwest UK where I live, we have several small trout streams amongst our club waters. they're not 'manicured' like the exclusive waters but membership is only £35 a year. so it's possible. we have lots of coarse fish water too: dace can be a real test of your dry fly skills
@@richnfamous59 unfortunately I live in the Midlands. If I was down your way you can bet I’d look into joining. To be honest I may look into it anyway. I haven’t been able to find anything similar around here
@@greenswordgaming39 I think there's some great fishing to be had on the Calder: there's a dude here who posts some good stuff. the Peak District, maybe?
you can also check out smaller tributaries to the 'big' rivers: trout find their way into them too. the membership for the big river: £350/yr, ten times ours
good luck and tight lines
the cost of river fly fishing is a debate which will rumble on for a while I think. When we're talking about the Lathkill we're talking about one of the very best rivers in the whole county, demand for that quality of fishing is high which drives the price up, there's a full time river keeper etc etc. Whereabouts in the midlands are you? There are clubs/tickets to suit all sorts of budgets, maybe we can help
@@IBandAndyFishing I’m Leicestershire based myself so my selection is pretty limited as is.
Amazing river and senery. Shame to see, so much weed. Few years be unfishable if not dealt with. Great video Andy.
They have a river keeper but I’d hazard a guess that it’s that weed that will provide the food and cover?
Thanks for watching Nigel! Interesting comment that, the weed growth here is really healthy and the water free of phosphates end fertilizer, as far as I'm aware the weed isn't managed like on a southern chalkstream. It also provides great habitat for all manner of bugs as well as refuge for trout fry and the trout themselves 👍
caught my first brown trout on the fly Pb as well
Great video👌👍
Thanks buddy! How's Devon looking at the moment?
@@IBandAndyFishing I haven't been able to go fishing yet, my local stream is quite coloured but there are lots of flies hatching,
tight lines🎣
It'll soon be time, just need this rain to clear off now! Tight lines to you!
Skip listening to the spiel and go straight to 3:55
Is that furled leader really 12 foot? I thought they came with added tippet and that the total was 12 foot??
These are a 12' furled leader, though they aren't 100% consistent, you can't be when making them. They're always more than a rod length and that's 10' 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing thanks. 9ft is the max I can usually find. It's amazing how many anglers don't like them even when they can be shown to be so effective even on clear water.
....and the furled leader, must try
they're a game changer Paul, give them a go!
You need to come to Canada them trout are just run of the mill
Cause most of these aren't stocked, these are wild trout. Lot of rivers in Canada are hatchery fish. Stockie bashing is pretty much frowned upon in the uk lol Theres wild brown trout up here in Scotland gettin caught upwards of 10lb. In the lochs or you guys say lakes. Theres 20lb plus ferox trout. The scottish record ferox brown trout was 31lb 12oz. We get fish like you guys trust me lol
Lots of wild trout here or established wild due to Brits thinking it would be nice to have brown trout
@@chrisburgess6964 was nothing to do with the British as a whole lol. You sound a bit bitter. theres two different breeds of browns in Canada and America..German browns and loch leven brown trout. One from Germany and other from loch leven in Scotland. The people who brought the loch leven browns over were scottish settlers and the german browns is a long story but they were from Germany in short. If you like fishing brown trout. better be thankful cause if they didnt do what they did. You wouldnt be fishing for them would you 🤣. The browns aren't an invasive species in Canada unlike in some parts of Australia. So cant complain. They probably more beneficial for the musky and pike populations
@@ChillinLikeAVillain1210 that's Canadian
@@chrisburgess6964 explain lol. "That's Canadian" in context of what i said doesnt make sense lol what is Canadian haha
I bought a set of Stroft FC spools to tie my own leaders from FC, and tapered nylon leaders + tippet materiual for dry flies or shallow fishing. Which knots do you advise for the FC leaders?
I use mono furled leaders and FC tippet bud, I find blood knots work just fine for me!
Try the Wey between Bentley and Farnham
Yay!...Beer.
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Which are the best clubs to become member around London for fly fishing please
Andy - what make is the landing net your using?
Hi Nick, that's a Mclean net, they're fantastic
quality... ;o)
Thanks Jason!
did you see the fish at 0:50 to 0:53 bottom?
Hi what would you say the fish weigh roughly?
You’re trying to hard. Love lathkill. My favourite walking without fishing
Yeah I lost it a bit in the last hour, dry fly fishing against the clock with cameras rolling isn't ideal!
What is drag? What is drift? Sorry to be stupid....just starting.
How do you afford to fish at all of these top venues?
Oh the horror of fishing 7x :)
7x + snags = stress!
@@IBandAndyFishing Tell me, why use 7x Scierra line when there are other brands of 6x that are almost as thin. Is it down to cost?
It's what I've got in my pack at the moment so it's what I use John. I also don't think it breaks at 2.4lb, it's almost definitely stronger than that 👍
whats the elastic band for ??
To dry the dry flies off
@@IBandAndyFishing so surprised I hadn't seen this before!😊
It's genius!
Don't you take hem home to eat can't see the point when they are eating fish it's not like carp fishing 🎣
To a lot of people carp are eating fish 🤷♂️
Personally think trout tastes dreadful
Too much talking!
Thanks Alan!
You talk too much. Couldn’t go beyond 09.13. bye
Look mate just cast about stop talking and consentrate you are doing my head in can't relax fishing is supposed to be relaxing
'Just cast about' - I'm guessing you don't do much river fly fishing? 👀