Jordan Baker is stunning. It feels like she has walked straight out of Art Deco painting. So tall, slender and gracious. I am tall female myself and I've always considered it uncomfortable feature which only makes you feel clumsy. But now I think being tall is actually nice. Elizabeth Debicki did a great job in The Great Gatsby and in The Man from U.N.C.L.E. I can't believe she's only in her mid 20s.
She is absolutely stunning, I agree there. She is meant to play the role of a 1920's woman. And I feel you on the part of being tall. I'm 5'9 myself. Being tall has its ups and downs.
Greta and Olga: I'm a guy. Trust me when I say that there is nothing sexier than a woman you can look directly in the eyes. I'm 6'2". I've only met two women that tall in my life. One was decades old than I, but I'm sure she was a hotty when she was young.
I don't think there's a more beautiful portrayal of Jordan. She looks like she walked straight off some 1920s vogue magazine. So tall and slender, so graceful and elegant with a sense of mystery. Her hair is so perfectly 1920s. Elizabeth Debicki did a wonderful job.
I find myself oddly attracted to Jordan Bakers character. I wish they showed more of her in the book and film. Seems like she had some deep psychological issues as well.
She was a manipulative character. A vamp. She had more different facets than Daisy. When you compare the two women Daisy was clueless. In the 1974 movie Daisy was played by Lois Chiles, who later played the manipulative Holly Harwood on the primetime drama series "Dallas".
@@awesomeone2979 That word means a type of woman like a femme fatale, for women, that are fateful and desperate for man, who have a devious and desperate site of character. The actress Rita Hayworth embodied such characters. The Character of Alexis Colby in the soap "Dynasty" was such a woman or the character of Jill foster Abbott in the soap "The Young & the Restless" originally played by Brenda Dickson was such a woman. A woman who is sexually seductive and using the manipulative ways....
@@awesomeone2979 You should sudies such characters more! They are thhe most interesting ones! Lois Chiles who plays the character of Jordan in the original version of Gatsby with Redford was also the devious Holly Harwood on "Dallas" in the 1983 - 84 season, ten years later practically.
@@awesomeone2979 Study the old film noirs and the old soap operas prime time and daytime - it´s very interesting. Especially when you are a drama student.
i shipped nick and jordan so much during the film, and even more so during the book, so part of me is sad that these scenes were cut. but i like the fact that baz is explaining why they were cut, and i agree with what he's saying, very good decisions made. if these scenes were just added to the dvd as bonus features and there was no explanation i would have been more annoyed that they were cut, but the reasoning helps.
Fitzgerald's Jordan was so much wittier than what was portrayed by the actress in the film. She did a perfect job of holding her chin "that way" as in the book but Baz took away one of her funnier lines when Tom's ranting in the Plaza suite about Gatsby & Daisy running around together was a sign of society cracking up and interracial marriage wouldn't be far behind. In the book, Jordan says "we're all white here" in a disinterested dull way as if Tom's an idiot. As heated as that scene was, it would have been funny if that line had been included in the script.
2:49 That scene makes so much more sense now!!! I thought her reaction was odd when he said that. I literally asked the person next to me "Why did she act like that?".
Lovely scene. I Nick and Jordan were a great pair despite the screenplay's ending. Elizabeth Debicki is a talented actress. I haven't seen anyone move and talk so flawlessly and it seems like she's a natural 20's era flapper girl
While I do agree that Jay and Daisy should have been the main romance, not every relationship has a beginning, middle, and end. I think that every movie tries to play out a relationship so that the audience can connect with it, but I can't count how many times I've had someone suggest a relationship with me, but then not pursue it any further, without explanation. We don't live in a perfect story, where everything has closure and meaning.
they get rid of this basically to strengthen the romance theme between Jay and Daisy. but it makes nick and jordan looks extremely friendzoned, nothing like trying to get there. i don't think any beginning, middle and end needed. ok maybe kissing is unnecessary, but at least few lines would help nick seem not being unattractive...the obvious part of him and jordan was, in a party some man pull jordan away from nick and says "rich girls don't go for poor boys". it's like nick already a loser and jordan is some rich girl confirmed never look at other than rich boys.
+Sally Lemon Do you mean Nick being unnatracted to Jordan? because I remember there's this line in the beginning where he calls her "The most frightening person i had ever seen but, i enjoyed looking at her." which showed his interest in her. But if you mean the reversed (jordan being unnatracted to Nick) i feel like the actress played it well. The behavior and manerisms she portrayed as the jordan character towards nick were more "acting koi" than uninterested but that might just be me, interpertating it this way :p.
Hey its me from the future. in the book they sort of end on a nice note, jordan says shes engaged which nick finds dubious but they still end with a positive idea of eachother. i really likes that, because i think its important to keep the main “relationship” between daisy and gatsby, as well as nick and gatsby bc i think their relationship is also important to the story ofc, but adding jordan in wouldve been a bit too much. i like that in the book they end on a nice note while still keeping in mind theyre never gonna be a thing. it also is a nice sendoff, kinda showing that nick has still gotta leave the only other good person in their whole group, simply because their relationship was so tied to that summer and those people.
I finished the book a couple of days ago and I thought back to when I had seen the film and all the scenes between Nick and Jordan that had been left out and i felt like this would have been better in the film but I understand why he left them out. But on the bright side they made the scenes and even though they're not in the film I'll still see them.
I've always seen Nick as gay. Especially after re-reading certain parts of the book. The way Nick describes Jordan kinda reinforces it for me, especially with how flattering he is with male characters. And the scene with Mr whatever the fuck in his underwear, which happened after huge amounts of drinking and Mr whatever the fuck saying that he should really have Nick over for dinner "anytime." I may be nit-picking it, but my gaydar went off like fucking mad when I reread the book.
Kenny Erickson I thought so too! especially because of the way he describes Daisy. Like he is aware of her irresistable ways but no affected by it. In the movie tho, Nick seems very enchanted by both Daisy and Jordan, for me he is only gay in the books haha ( Sorry for my bad english )
Gabriella Borges Nick is related to Daisy, it makes sense that he's not attracted to her. I think he's more disgusted with their lifestyles and therefore can't bring himself to love anybody.
If I were only in Nick's situation I sure as hell wouldn't be spilling my guts out in a psychward, of course I'd miss my dude Gatsby but a man can do a lot of things with the love of a beautiful woman.
Well the point of the story was to show how Nick disdained all of them because they were so shallow, and that included Jordan. He had become an alcoholic and gone to a sanitarium for treatment of his alcoholism, because in the years following that summer, he became so disenchanted and disillusioned with the world around him and that he drank to mask his troubles. This is why Nick said he was disgusted by everything and everyone and only Gatsby was exempt from his disgust. It's obvious that what changed Nick were the events of that summer, meeting Gatsby and seeing life through his eyes, and then subsequently the tragedy that unfolded.
Nick and Jordan had a very mature relationship going on. But because the film was not centered around it, they cut it out of the movie. Shame, it was a strange, but blossoming romance. They really did have a liking for each other.
If it was only about Daisy and Jay, Fitz. would have never mentioned the fact that Jordan and Nick had a relationship at all. Their relationship certainly isn't the most important one in the movie (obviously Daisy and Jay's is) but the fact that it was mentioned quite a few times in the book means that it holds some substance. But yeah I agree with Baz since the relationship wasn't written very cleanly and I can see how difficult it would be to write it in.
sure, but its an important secondary romance. In the end jordan says to him "the only danger to a bad driver is another bad driver. I had thought you were an honest man, but i was wrong" ( paraphrasing) the point is that this shows nick for who hi really is, just as bad as the rest of them.
Jordan is smart. Daisy is not. Jordan made himself. Daisy is dependent on her environment. Jordan is in control of his life. Daisy is not. Jordan is elegant. Daisy is not. Jordan is beautiful (to me). Daisy is not. Jordan would make Gatsby happy. Daisy ...
Well I'm assuming you didn't read the book if you're asking this. Nick realized that all Jordan wanted was to have fun. She never took anything seriously and that included her relationship with Nick since she was engaged to someone else (or something along those lines). Well I'm sure she liked him to a degree but not that much. He realizes this when Myrtle dies & Jordan doesn't notice how tense everyone is about it because she just acts as usual & wants to party through the "young" night.
Gatsby was truly in love with daisy, but I got the impression from the movie, having never read the book or watched the other movies, that Nick also had a thing for Daisy (which made Jordan a distraction). And the feeling was mutual for Daisy, hence her pulling Nick onto the couch, in their first scene together and her line when she arrived for the tea meeting, "Why did I have to come alone? Are you in love with me?" This combined love for Daisy gave Nick and Jay a mutual reason to pull Daisy away from Tom. And I loved the way Carey Mulligan delivered that line.
Nick was too wrapped up with other people's lives. Helping Gatsby with Daisy, and what not. Him forgetting his birthday is evidence that he was a tool that served others. That and him over-romaticizing Gatsby. It's kinda tragic really.
Yeah I thought so too but nobody really touched on that when I was learning it. And the way he describes Daisy as "thrilling" and "beautiful" and all these other great things makes me wonder.
+WHATAMI I actually found his admiration for Daisy strange too, but later in the book Gatsby mentions that Daisys voice - which is really really over romanticized by Nick in the novel, i.e. called a 'deathless song' - would be "full of money". And as a reaction to that, Nick thinks to himself that this must be the answer to why she is so charming and intimating, she is further described by him as "the kings daughter, the golden girl.." So I think Fitzgerald wants to express that she is merely that attractive to everyone (think of the fact that 'Daisy was the most popular girl in her home town too )because she clearly represents money or wealth, and since its an socially critical novel, dealing with the jazz age and american dream, every character in it kinda finds himself drawn to and influenced by money
in the book, when introducing her character, there was a public scandal about pro golfer Jordan caught cheating at a golf tournament. It blew over, and being around celebutants like the Buchanans helped....but it laid the foundation of her has an also somewhat shady character. It fit in: everyone lied Daisy lied about true love when she married tom. Tom lied about....lots of things Gatsby lied about his whole life. Despite this Gatsby's lies were built on the hope of winning his heart's desire. Everyone else just lied because they cared about no one and nothing.
I told my 11th grade teacher that there was more to nick and Jordans relationship..... And she didn't believe it. She's alot deer then what she's made out to be.
In the book Nick kissed Jordan without any invitation; she was a very bad driver who always drove in the book and she cheated in Golf too. In the book she wasn’t interested in Nick and told him eventually that she was engaged to someone else. Her eyes were grey like Virginia Woolf’s and she was um, visibly darker than Tom, Daisy; their kids. It was even hinted that she ’passing’ as white/genteel/gentile Even the corrupt sports’guy played by Amitabh Bachchan in this; was supposed to be visibly Jewish, Semitic… Scott Fitzgerald was a white supremest or something to that effect.
What? Are you seriously trying to tell me that Nick kissed a golfer, but that isn't in the final movie? I watched the movie a million times and only found out about it now in 2021? Dude?
I don’t think the director understand the book at all. Nick and Jordan have a full-on relationship, not an almost one. They also definitively break up. She doesn’t just fade out. The Nick-Jordan relationship is important in the book. It flushes both of them out as characters, and it lets you see some of both of their flaws.
I interpreted it to be more of a symbolization to his surroundings in New York. Jordan was lively and sophisticated, but also a cheater and whimsical in her ways. But I guess it was only meant to be an on-the-side fling. Not much attention was really turned to the relationship throughout the book, so I would assume it really was a symbolic representation of Nick's adoration of NY.
That's something I really couldn't understand in the book, it's so vague about why Nick ends his relation with Jordan. I love Jordan and the scene of the kiss, but it's comprehensible why Baz decided to cut it.
A gay man's version of heterosexual yearning.. This film is like a cartoon, missing all the subtleties and grace of the book.The ending was the best part but the ludicrous party and car scenes were so OTT you could get seasick watching. A Wasted opportunity to make something spec I as.
Jordan Baker is stunning. It feels like she has walked straight out of Art Deco painting. So tall, slender and gracious.
I am tall female myself and I've always considered it uncomfortable feature which only makes you feel clumsy. But now I think being tall is actually nice.
Elizabeth Debicki did a great job in The Great Gatsby and in The Man from U.N.C.L.E.
I can't believe she's only in her mid 20s.
She is absolutely stunning, I agree there. She is meant to play the role of a 1920's woman. And I feel you on the part of being tall. I'm 5'9 myself. Being tall has its ups and downs.
Olga Levin
I'm 5'9 as well :D
Greta M. Well then that makes the both of us then LOL!
Greta and Olga: I'm a guy. Trust me when I say that there is nothing sexier than a woman you can look directly in the eyes. I'm 6'2". I've only met two women that tall in my life. One was decades old than I, but I'm sure she was a hotty when she was young.
Greta M. Jordan has my favorite character design in the whole movie
nick is the biggest third wheel in literature history
Hahaha, gosh, you're hilarious!
what?
trenton owens ahahahahaha so trueee
IKR LOL
deaddd😂💀
I don't think there's a more beautiful portrayal of Jordan. She looks like she walked straight off some 1920s vogue magazine. So tall and slender, so graceful and elegant with a sense of mystery. Her hair is so perfectly 1920s. Elizabeth Debicki did a wonderful job.
I would rather they have left all the deleted scenes in the movie. That way it's pretty much the whole book.
shes only 23! man, she acts flawlessly
And she is 30 now
@@moealhaj3539 lol I am 29 now
Uh
@@prodeyj1 damn, good job replying to a 7 year old comment. Can't say I've seen that before...
@@BallyBoy95 lol I appreciate it
Their relationship made me very sad that it never progressed.
I find myself oddly attracted to Jordan Bakers character. I wish they showed more of her in the book and film. Seems like she had some deep psychological issues as well.
She was a manipulative character. A vamp. She had more different facets than Daisy. When you compare the two women Daisy was clueless. In the 1974 movie Daisy was played by Lois Chiles, who later played the manipulative Holly Harwood on the primetime drama series "Dallas".
@@awesomeone2979 That word means a type of woman like a femme fatale, for women, that are fateful and desperate for man, who have a devious and desperate site of character. The actress Rita Hayworth embodied such characters. The Character of Alexis Colby in the soap "Dynasty" was such a woman or the character of Jill foster Abbott in the soap "The Young & the Restless" originally played by Brenda Dickson was such a woman. A woman who is sexually seductive and using the manipulative ways....
@@awesomeone2979 You should sudies such characters more! They are thhe most interesting ones! Lois Chiles who plays the character of Jordan in the original version of Gatsby with Redford was also the devious Holly Harwood on "Dallas" in the 1983 - 84 season, ten years later practically.
@@awesomeone2979 Study the old film noirs and the old soap operas prime time and daytime - it´s very interesting. Especially when you are a drama student.
@@frankhartebrodt1238 She seems like a deep psychologically affecting character but where in the story she should nature of manipulating others?
Awe, but I shipped them soooo hard when we were reading this book in class
We all did.
Why is everyone using the word ship all the time for everything?
Nothing to ship.
They dated. But, Nick cut the whole crew off.
i shipped nick and jordan so much during the film, and even more so during the book, so part of me is sad that these scenes were cut. but i like the fact that baz is explaining why they were cut, and i agree with what he's saying, very good decisions made. if these scenes were just added to the dvd as bonus features and there was no explanation i would have been more annoyed that they were cut, but the reasoning helps.
Jordan looks better than Daisy anyone agrees?
same
In the book Jordan described to have 'golden shoulders'.
@@telorceplok8812 for a sec I thought you said golden showers
@@telorceplok8812 what golden shoulders mean?
@@putriaulia9398 i suppose it means beautifully symmetrical, precious, since Jordan is a golfer
In other words....Nick's relationship isn't central to the plot.
Fitzgerald's Jordan was so much wittier than what was portrayed by the actress in the film. She did a perfect job of holding her chin "that way" as in the book but Baz took away one of her funnier lines when Tom's ranting in the Plaza suite about Gatsby & Daisy running around together was a sign of society cracking up and interracial marriage wouldn't be far behind. In the book, Jordan says "we're all white here" in a disinterested dull way as if Tom's an idiot. As heated as that scene was, it would have been funny if that line had been included in the script.
2:49 That scene makes so much more sense now!!! I thought her reaction was odd when he said that. I literally asked the person next to me "Why did she act like that?".
Lovely scene. I Nick and Jordan were a great pair despite the screenplay's ending. Elizabeth Debicki is a talented actress. I haven't seen anyone move and talk so flawlessly and it seems like she's a natural 20's era flapper girl
Ok, wow. That was a great kiss.
Eowyn of Rohan truly great I like it
I loved their little flirtationship!!
I'm so glad I got to see this because it features my favourite quote from the whole novel. Luhrmann did a great job!
Pursued it's beautiful
While I do agree that Jay and Daisy should have been the main romance, not every relationship has a beginning, middle, and end. I think that every movie tries to play out a relationship so that the audience can connect with it, but I can't count how many times I've had someone suggest a relationship with me, but then not pursue it any further, without explanation. We don't live in a perfect story, where everything has closure and meaning.
Totally agree with you
Agreed
Marita Bray yes but in a movie it will feel fragmented and incomplete. It's all about the eloquence of the movie in 2 hrs.
My heart leaped a beat when Nick and Jordan kiss. They make a wonderful but weird couple 😂😄
I knew it! I felt unresolved with this couple Im so glad they at least filmed a scene
imagine how awkward they were when they were told that them kissing didn't make the final cut LMAO
I just thought of this 😂
I mean there actors
but Nick was crushing super hard on Gatsby so it makes sense to cut the kissing seen but the phone one would have been a great addition
no
+scorcher444 kinda yeh
You're crazy!
Crazy as hell!
al might no no no did you even read the book
@@toxicturtle9077 is this from the deleted scene at the end? Haha
jordan baker is honestly the perfect woman
smart choice to cut to this from the final. I loved the way nick and Jordan ended.
they get rid of this basically to strengthen the romance theme between Jay and Daisy. but it makes nick and jordan looks extremely friendzoned, nothing like trying to get there. i don't think any beginning, middle and end needed. ok maybe kissing is unnecessary, but at least few lines would help nick seem not being unattractive...the obvious part of him and jordan was, in a party some man pull jordan away from nick and says "rich girls don't go for poor boys". it's like nick already a loser and jordan is some rich girl confirmed never look at other than rich boys.
Nick's family was rich. They had money, just not as much as Gatsby or the Buchanans
+Sally Lemon Do you mean Nick being unnatracted to Jordan? because I remember there's this line in the beginning where he calls her "The most frightening person i had ever seen but, i enjoyed looking at her." which showed his interest in her. But if you mean the reversed (jordan being unnatracted to Nick) i feel like the actress played it well. The behavior and manerisms she portrayed as the jordan character towards nick were more "acting koi" than uninterested but that might just be me, interpertating it this way :p.
Hey its me from the future. in the book they sort of end on a nice note, jordan says shes engaged which nick finds dubious but they still end with a positive idea of eachother. i really likes that, because i think its important to keep the main “relationship” between daisy and gatsby, as well as nick and gatsby bc i think their relationship is also important to the story ofc, but adding jordan in wouldve been a bit too much. i like that in the book they end on a nice note while still keeping in mind theyre never gonna be a thing. it also is a nice sendoff, kinda showing that nick has still gotta leave the only other good person in their whole group, simply because their relationship was so tied to that summer and those people.
I finished the book a couple of days ago and I thought back to when I had seen the film and all the scenes between Nick and Jordan that had been left out and i felt like this would have been better in the film but I understand why he left them out. But on the bright side they made the scenes and even though they're not in the film I'll still see them.
1:15 THE WYA HE SLOWLY PUTS THE PHONE DOWN HAS ME CACKLING ITS SO UNINTENTIONALLY FUNNY
I've always seen Nick as gay. Especially after re-reading certain parts of the book. The way Nick describes Jordan kinda reinforces it for me, especially with how flattering he is with male characters. And the scene with Mr whatever the fuck in his underwear, which happened after huge amounts of drinking and Mr whatever the fuck saying that he should really have Nick over for dinner "anytime."
I may be nit-picking it, but my gaydar went off like fucking mad when I reread the book.
Kenny Erickson nick is gay
Kenny Erickson I thought so too! especially because of the way he describes Daisy. Like he is aware of her irresistable ways but no affected by it. In the movie tho, Nick seems very enchanted by both Daisy and Jordan, for me he is only gay in the books haha ( Sorry for my bad english )
Well it would definitely be a classic erotica book if it were to be about Nick sucking Gatsby's donger
Gabriella Borges Nick is related to Daisy, it makes sense that he's not attracted to her. I think he's more disgusted with their lifestyles and therefore can't bring himself to love anybody.
Nick is gay for Gatsby,, it explains a lot
The movie would have been more spectacular with all the scenes! and congrats to Leo and his Golden Glob Award! :D
Jordan was the best character in the movie.
If I were only in Nick's situation I sure as hell wouldn't be spilling my guts out in a psychward, of course I'd miss my dude Gatsby but a man can do a lot of things with the love of a beautiful woman.
Well the point of the story was to show how Nick disdained all of them because they were so shallow, and that included Jordan. He had become an alcoholic and gone to a sanitarium for treatment of his alcoholism, because in the years following that summer, he became so disenchanted and disillusioned with the world around him and that he drank to mask his troubles. This is why Nick said he was disgusted by everything and everyone and only Gatsby was exempt from his disgust. It's obvious that what changed Nick were the events of that summer, meeting Gatsby and seeing life through his eyes, and then subsequently the tragedy that unfolded.
Well said Marian
Marian T I keep finding you writing thoughtful comments on the story, glad to see you understand it.
+JeffTheDudeAbides You're assuming that Nick is actually attracted to women.
TheLegendaryBlackBeastOf Aaagh Yeah that's true.
Well he did win an award for best kiss
They never should have cut the Nick/Jordan scenes. They are so pivotal to the theme
Nick and Jordan had a very mature relationship going on. But because the film was not centered around it, they cut it out of the movie. Shame, it was a strange, but blossoming romance. They really did have a liking for each other.
Elizabeth Debicki is so gorgeous
I have the biggest crush on Jordan/Elizabeth. She is so beautiful.
same here mate same
If it was only about Daisy and Jay, Fitz. would have never mentioned the fact that Jordan and Nick had a relationship at all. Their relationship certainly isn't the most important one in the movie (obviously Daisy and Jay's is) but the fact that it was mentioned quite a few times in the book means that it holds some substance. But yeah I agree with Baz since the relationship wasn't written very cleanly and I can see how difficult it would be to write it in.
sure, but its an important secondary romance. In the end jordan says to him "the only danger to a bad driver is another bad driver. I had thought you were an honest man, but i was wrong" ( paraphrasing) the point is that this shows nick for who hi really is, just as bad as the rest of them.
Imagine being a 5’7 guy and having a 6’3 girlfriend
That’s so romantic in a very weird way
such a brilliant scene!
Is it weird that I liked them together better than Gatsby and Daisy?
Baz Luhrmann is brilliant !
2:14 is so cool. I wondered how they did this before.
looks like cinema 4D pre rendered, what do you think?
Elizabeth Debicki is a goddess!!
I was more into the relationship between Nick and Jordan, I didn't care about Gatsby and the other girl.
I wonder if Elizabeth Debicki was upset about losing the screen time? With Tobey Maguire, he was already playing the lead character-more or less.
Jordan Baker is flawlessly beautiful she's definitely in my point of view an exotic beauty 🖤
Elizabeth Debicki changed my life after I saw her in The Great Gatsby. That’s all.
same here man same
Same Elizabeth I was deeply attracted too especially as Jordan.
I dead ass would've happily sat in a five hour movie if it was like this
Baz Luhrmann is a genius ..he is so genius that he predicted the future of the actress of Jordan Baker
Honestly judging by some of the interactions with Jordan and nick I kinda thought she was into him even though he was poor
Jordan is smart. Daisy is not.
Jordan made himself. Daisy is dependent on her environment.
Jordan is in control of his life. Daisy is not.
Jordan is elegant. Daisy is not.
Jordan is beautiful (to me). Daisy is not.
Jordan would make Gatsby happy. Daisy ...
Wow. What a great kisser.
If they made it into a TV series with Netflix backing them up I really think it would be a hit
A TV show would allow them to put more story elements in the narrative and properly convey it.
okay! i ship these 2 so much ✨
I'm the 1974 movie Jordan said, "You threw me over."
Petition for a directorz cut with all deleted scenes added back. Fuckin titanic 2012 style bring it back to theaters
Jordan is like the real life version of Moxxi from Borderlands.
I shipped them so much thru the book
great film
Nick + Jordan was distracting from Gatsby + Daisy
Well I'm assuming you didn't read the book if you're asking this. Nick realized that all Jordan wanted was to have fun. She never took anything seriously and that included her relationship with Nick since she was engaged to someone else (or something along those lines). Well I'm sure she liked him to a degree but not that much.
He realizes this when Myrtle dies & Jordan doesn't notice how tense everyone is about it because she just acts as usual & wants to party through the "young" night.
At _least_ the phone call, though.
Nice scene.
Gatsby was truly in love with daisy, but I got the impression from the movie, having never read the book or watched the other movies, that Nick also had a thing for Daisy (which made Jordan a distraction). And the feeling was mutual for Daisy, hence her pulling Nick onto the couch, in their first scene together and her line when she arrived for the tea meeting, "Why did I have to come alone? Are you in love with me?" This combined love for Daisy gave Nick and Jay a mutual reason to pull Daisy away from Tom.
And I loved the way Carey Mulligan delivered that line.
Nick and Daisy are cousins
It wasnt uncommon for cousins to marry back in that time . Nick and daisy arent even first cousins
Nick was too wrapped up with other people's lives. Helping Gatsby with Daisy, and what not. Him forgetting his birthday is evidence that he was a tool that served others. That and him over-romaticizing Gatsby. It's kinda tragic really.
Yeah I thought so too but nobody really touched on that when I was learning it. And the way he describes Daisy as "thrilling" and "beautiful" and all these other great things makes me wonder.
+WHATAMI I actually found his admiration for Daisy strange too, but later in the book Gatsby mentions that Daisys voice - which is really really over romanticized by Nick in the novel, i.e. called a 'deathless song' - would be "full of money". And as a reaction to that, Nick thinks to himself that this must be the answer to why she is so charming and intimating, she is further described by him as "the kings daughter, the golden girl.." So I think Fitzgerald wants to express that she is merely that attractive to everyone (think of the fact that 'Daisy was the most popular girl in her home town too )because she clearly represents money or wealth, and since its an socially critical novel, dealing with the jazz age and american dream, every character in it kinda finds himself drawn to and influenced by money
bruh them like kinda being together was the main thing i was looking forward to in the movies and they cut all those scenes im mad
She reminds me of Joan in Mad Men!
it did have good music, this film
She is a survivor
I've been ROBBED
in the book, when introducing her character, there was a public scandal about pro golfer Jordan caught cheating at a golf tournament. It blew over, and being around celebutants like the Buchanans helped....but it laid the foundation of her has an also somewhat shady character.
It fit in: everyone lied
Daisy lied about true love when she married tom.
Tom lied about....lots of things
Gatsby lied about his whole life.
Despite this Gatsby's lies were built on the hope of winning his heart's desire.
Everyone else just lied because they cared about no one and nothing.
this director is really smart ngl
why is Nick always third wheeling bruh
I told my 11th grade teacher that there was more to nick and Jordans relationship..... And she didn't believe it. She's alot deer then what she's made out to be.
10 months late, but I’d still like to hear your thoughts lol
In the book Nick kissed Jordan without any invitation; she was a very bad driver who always drove in the book and she cheated in Golf too.
In the book she wasn’t interested in Nick and told him eventually that she was engaged to someone else. Her eyes were grey like Virginia Woolf’s and she was um, visibly darker than Tom, Daisy; their kids. It was even hinted that she ’passing’ as white/genteel/gentile
Even the corrupt sports’guy played by Amitabh Bachchan in this; was supposed to be visibly Jewish, Semitic… Scott Fitzgerald was a white supremest or something to that effect.
Why the hell dont put it on the movie!!
Does anyone know where I could find the music played when they were in the cab?
I totally agree with Baz. It was only about Daisy and Jay.
hate how they left all this out
What? Are you seriously trying to tell me that Nick kissed a golfer, but that isn't in the final movie? I watched the movie a million times and only found out about it now in 2021? Dude?
I think Jordan is a Flapper.
not sure why all the deleted scenes were taken out
Timing :/
I don’t think the director understand the book at all. Nick and Jordan have a full-on relationship, not an almost one. They also definitively break up. She doesn’t just fade out. The Nick-Jordan relationship is important in the book. It flushes both of them out as characters, and it lets you see some of both of their flaws.
Kinda wish they would have thrown in the fact that she was engaged
I interpreted it to be more of a symbolization to his surroundings in New York. Jordan was lively and sophisticated, but also a cheater and whimsical in her ways.
But I guess it was only meant to be an on-the-side fling. Not much attention was really turned to the relationship throughout the book, so I would assume it really was a symbolic representation of Nick's adoration of NY.
2:14 then boom PS1 grapiks
I wanted them together so bad D:
me too.
you could make fucking series mate or a trilogy why only one movie we wanted more
Pizza time
That's something I really couldn't understand in the book, it's so vague about why Nick ends his relation with Jordan. I love Jordan and the scene of the kiss, but it's comprehensible why Baz decided to cut it.
Good, because Nick x Gatsby is the best.
I LUV IT
THAT SHOULD BE ME!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!! >;(
by me i mean i wish i was nick thx bbg
by bbg i mean baby grilll
OMG THX FOR THE LIKES!!!!
wow nick got some
A gay man's version of heterosexual yearning.. This film is like a cartoon, missing all the subtleties and grace of the book.The ending was the best part but the ludicrous party and car scenes were so OTT you could get seasick watching. A Wasted opportunity to make something spec I as.
:)))) it's deleted...how could you say you missed it...
Very lovely scence a perfect love team for me ♡ ♥
Jordan was hotter than Daisy in the movie easily
NICK DIDN'T NEED A GIRL WHO MADE HIM FEEL SHE WAS DOING HIM A FAVOR JUST FOR BEING WITH HIMS. EFF JORDAN 🧐
Focus on the primary romance...Is he referring to Gatsby and Daisy or Nick and Gatsby (bromance)? Nick definitely had a man crush on him.